Oliver Kiemschies <olli...@sprintmail.com> wrote: >Anybody out there know the name of Metropolis' football team?
Is it the Knights? Or is that Gotham?
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> Oliver Kiemschies <olli...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
> >Anybody out there know the name of Metropolis' football team?
> Is it the Knights? Or is that Gotham?
> Jeff > -- > Jeffery D. Sykes | Kryptonian Cybernet: http://www.ms.uky.edu/~sykes/kc/ > sy...@ms.uky.edu | L&C Episode Guide: http://www.ms.uky.edu/~sykes/lc/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > There was a man who walked on water -- He came to set the people free > He was the ultimate example of what love can truly be > Cause His love was his life, and He gave it away
> Oliver Kiemschies <olli...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
> >Anybody out there know the name of Metropolis' football team?
> Is it the Knights? Or is that Gotham?
Yeah, that's Gotham. Or at least Gotham State University football team (according to the Scarecrow episode where Scarecrow rigs a buncha sporting events by exposing athletes to his fear toxin).
Greetings, ladies and gentlemen: I got the Atlas to the DC Universe (Mayfair games suplement to DC Heroes) with information about the baseball, basketball, football, media and others in the DC Universe. For any of those, at your feet (but I'll leave on vacances 15th to 31st. At your feet, KalEl el Vigilant
> Greetings, ladies and gentlemen: > I got the Atlas to the DC Universe (Mayfair games suplement to DC Heroes) > with information about the baseball, basketball, football, media and others > in the DC Universe. For any of those, at your feet (but I'll leave on > vacances 15th to 31st.
Shame on you guys. It's the Metropolis Meteors... as seen in the new Superman Adventures issue 24.
> Greetings, ladies and gentlemen: > I got the Atlas to the DC Universe (Mayfair games suplement to DC Heroes) > with information about the baseball, basketball, football, media and others > in the DC Universe. For any of those, at your feet (but I'll leave on > vacances 15th to 31st. > At your feet, > KalEl el Vigilant
LArry Stanley <ultimate_fan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Personally, I think the Atlas to the DC Universe is a great little >reference book, even if you don't play the game.
>I use it for all sorts of information gathering.
I'll second that! Even if much of the information will never be 'official continuitiy' despite being licensed by DC and despite a few retcons here and there, it's still a great reference to the ficitional DCU. ( e.g. the exact location of Metropolis, which the comics will never admit to, has been placed by the atlas in New Jersey, right? Or was Gotham in Jersey? and Metropolis down the coast...?
Ok, Ok... let's see... Hmm... Fast food chains... Media and Entertainment... Here! Professional Sports! Baseball's National League: (now on, I only name the non-real teams) EASTERN DIVISION: Gotham Griffins, Metropolis Meteors, Midway City Chiefs WESTERN DIVISION: Star City Rockets Baseball's American League: EASTERN DIVISION: Metropolis Monarchs, Gotham Knights WESTERN DIVISION: Coast City Angels (before the BIG BOOM, of course) Football's National Conference: EASTERN DIVISION: Metropolis Meteors, Gotham Wildcats CENTRAL DIVISION: Midway Cardinals WESTERN DIVISION: Star City Stags Football's American Conference: EASTERN DIVISION: None CENTRAL DIVISION: Central City Cougars WESTERN DIVISION: Coast City Sharks (before the BB, again) Basketball's Eastern Conference: ATLANTIC DIVISION: Metropolis Generals, Gotham Guardsmen CENTRAL DIVISION: Midway Sprints Basketball's Western Conference: MIDWEST DIVISION: Keystone Kings, Dos Rios Dudes PACIFIC DIVISION: Star City Lights, Coast City Clippers (b.BB.) Hockey's Wales Conference: ADAMS DIVISION: None (I think) PATRICK DIVISION: Metropolis Mammoths, Gotham Blades Hockey's Campbell Conference: NORRIS DIVISION: Chicago Blackhawks (I don't know if those really exist), Midway Wolverines SMYTHE DIVISION: Hub City Slashers
Ok, I think that's all... At your feet, KalEl el Vigilant
From the looks of the maps, Gotham City is in Jersey, while Metropolis is in Delaware, near the Maryland line.
Interesting. I always though (when I was much younger) that both Gotham and Metropolis were a _part_ of the New York area. Oh well, you live and learn, or you don't live long.
> LArry Stanley <ultimate_fan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Personally, I think the Atlas to the DC Universe is a great little > >reference book, even if you don't play the game.
> >I use it for all sorts of information gathering.
> I'll second that! Even if much of the information will never be 'official > continuitiy' despite being licensed by DC and despite a few retcons here and > there, it's still a great reference to the ficitional DCU. ( e.g. the exact > location of Metropolis, which the comics will never admit to, has been > placed by the atlas in New Jersey, right? Or was Gotham in Jersey? and > Metropolis down the coast...?
Larry wrote in message <35D5FCA4.1...@hotmail.com>... >From the looks of the maps, Gotham City is in Jersey, while Metropolis >is in Delaware, near the Maryland line.
I live in South Jersey right near where Gotham is placed in the atlas. My grandpop told me a long time ago that a small city near me was used as a model for Gotham. At the time he told me (which has to have been at least 12 years ago) i thought he was making it all up. Now I'm not so sure. Has there ever been a map of Gotham published anywhere? I want to check this out to see if there's any truth to what my grandpop said.....
>Larry wrote in message <35D5FCA4.1...@hotmail.com>... >>From the looks of the maps, Gotham City is in Jersey, while Metropolis >>is in Delaware, near the Maryland line.
The ATLAS OF THE DC UNIVERSE supplement for the Mayfair Games DC HEROES roleplaying game specifically identifies Gotham as being in South Jersey and Metropolis being in the southern part of Delaware.
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>I live in South Jersey right near where Gotham is placed in the atlas. My >grandpop told me a long time ago that a small city near me was used as a >model for Gotham. At the time he told me (which has to have been at least >12 years ago) i thought he was making it all up. Now I'm not so sure. Has >there ever been a map of Gotham published anywhere? I want to check this >out to see if there's any truth to what my grandpop said.....
Mayfair produced a map of Gotham City, showing its 24 neighborhoods, in the 80s. The original version of this map appeared in the first edition DC HEROES boxed set; the same map, along with somewhat expanded thumbnail descriptions of the neighborhoods and landmarks, later ran in the NIGHT IN GOTHAM supplement and (in somewhat different form) in the aforementioned ATLAS OF THE DC UNIVERSE). The map, minus the thumbnail descriptions, also appears in the second edition BATMAN SOURCEBOOK. A greatly simplified version was shown in the Background/Roster book of the 2nd edition boxed set.
There's also a map of Metropolis. Again, the original ran in the first edition game set, and a somewhat revised version ran in ATLAS OF THE DC UNIVERSE. A simplified version appeared in the second edition boxed set and in the second edition SUPERMAN sourcebook.
The ATLAS OF THE DC UNIVERSE also includes a variety of other maps and information on most of the fictional locales of the DC Universe, including Central City, Coast City, and DCU-specific nations like Bialya and Qurac. It has a bunch of esoteric information about the fictional world.
Metropolis, for instance, has two baseball teams, the Meteors (National League East) and the Monarchs (American League East), an NFL football team, also called the Meteors, and a hockey team, the Mammoths. It's also listed as having four TV stations, WGBS (natch), WGMC, WMET, and WLEX.
While this book, and all the Mayfair Games material, was developed with the cooperation of the DC staff (the ATLAS was actually written by writer Paul Kupperberg), it's important to remember that it's not _official_. The maps of Gotham, for instance, pretty accurately reflect the geography of Gotham during the editorship of Len Wein (from about 1983-1986), and they even appeared in Alan Moore's SWAMP THING #53, set in Gotham, but Denny O'Neil, the current Batman group editor, is reluctant to establish a firm geography for the city for fear of unduly restricting future stories.
As for Gotham being based on any real city, no, it was never based on any city in South Jersey. Gotham has always been a stand-in for New York City. In fact, in a number of Batman's early adventures (1939-1942), it's specifically identified as New York -- the name "Gotham City" doesn't pop up until the war era. And Denny O'Neil has said "I've long believed that Batman's Gotham City is Manhattan below Fourteenth Street at eleven minutes past midnight on the coldest night in November." It's only been in recent decades that there's been any clear indication that Gotham, Metropolis, and New York are separate entities in the DC Universe.
Please someone post if they know who said it, but I _think_ it might have been Frank Miller. "Metropolis is New York by day. Gotham City is New York by night." That works for me the best.
Peter T. McDermott
FAaron Severson wrote:
And Denny O'Neil has said "I've long believed that
> Batman's Gotham City is Manhattan below Fourteenth Street at eleven > minutes past midnight on the coldest night in November." It's only been> in recent decades that there's been any clear indication that Gotham,> Metropolis, and New York are separate entities in the DC Universe.
I would love to get a map of Gotham and one of Metroplois (Frankly, I am more interested in Metropolis) if anyone has one from those games that they would be willing to get rid of.
> In article <6raa3t$gl...@news.jersey.net>, > Chad Ripper <EighthS...@aol.com> wrote:
> >Larry wrote in message <35D5FCA4.1...@hotmail.com>... > >>From the looks of the maps, Gotham City is in Jersey, while Metropolis > >>is in Delaware, near the Maryland line.
> The ATLAS OF THE DC UNIVERSE supplement for the Mayfair Games DC HEROES > roleplaying game specifically identifies Gotham as being in South Jersey > and Metropolis being in the southern part of Delaware.
> >I live in South Jersey right near where Gotham is placed in the atlas. My > >grandpop told me a long time ago that a small city near me was used as a > >model for Gotham. At the time he told me (which has to have been at least > >12 years ago) i thought he was making it all up. Now I'm not so sure. Has > >there ever been a map of Gotham published anywhere? I want to check this > >out to see if there's any truth to what my grandpop said.....
> Mayfair produced a map of Gotham City, showing its 24 neighborhoods, in > the 80s. The original version of this map appeared in the first edition > DC HEROES boxed set; the same map, along with somewhat expanded thumbnail > descriptions of the neighborhoods and landmarks, later ran in the NIGHT IN > GOTHAM supplement and (in somewhat different form) in the aforementioned > ATLAS OF THE DC UNIVERSE). The map, minus the thumbnail descriptions, > also appears in the second edition BATMAN SOURCEBOOK. A greatly > simplified version was shown in the Background/Roster book of the 2nd > edition boxed set.
> There's also a map of Metropolis. Again, the original ran in the first > edition game set, and a somewhat revised version ran in ATLAS OF THE DC > UNIVERSE. A simplified version appeared in the second edition boxed set > and in the second edition SUPERMAN sourcebook.
> The ATLAS OF THE DC UNIVERSE also includes a variety of other maps and > information on most of the fictional locales of the DC Universe, including > Central City, Coast City, and DCU-specific nations like Bialya and Qurac. > It has a bunch of esoteric information about the fictional world.
> Metropolis, for instance, has two baseball teams, the Meteors (National > League East) and the Monarchs (American League East), an NFL football > team, also called the Meteors, and a hockey team, the Mammoths. It's also > listed as having four TV stations, WGBS (natch), WGMC, WMET, and WLEX.
> While this book, and all the Mayfair Games material, was developed with > the cooperation of the DC staff (the ATLAS was actually written by writer > Paul Kupperberg), it's important to remember that it's not _official_. > The maps of Gotham, for instance, pretty accurately reflect the geography > of Gotham during the editorship of Len Wein (from about 1983-1986), and > they even appeared in Alan Moore's SWAMP THING #53, set in Gotham, but > Denny O'Neil, the current Batman group editor, is reluctant to establish a > firm geography for the city for fear of unduly restricting future stories.
> As for Gotham being based on any real city, no, it was never based on any > city in South Jersey. Gotham has always been a stand-in for New York > City. In fact, in a number of Batman's early adventures (1939-1942), it's > specifically identified as New York -- the name "Gotham City" doesn't pop > up until the war era. And Denny O'Neil has said "I've long believed that > Batman's Gotham City is Manhattan below Fourteenth Street at eleven > minutes past midnight on the coldest night in November." It's only been > in recent decades that there's been any clear indication that Gotham, > Metropolis, and New York are separate entities in the DC Universe.
In article <35D9BAF5.4...@pegasus8.att.com>, Peter T. McDermott <p...@pegasus8.att.com> wrote:
>Please someone post if they know who said it, but I _think_ it might >have been Frank Miller. "Metropolis is New York by day. Gotham City >is New York by night." That works for me the best.
> Peter T. McDermott
>FAaron Severson wrote:
>And Denny O'Neil has said "I've long believed that >> Batman's Gotham City is Manhattan below Fourteenth Street at eleven >> minutes past midnight on the coldest night in November."
Nope, that's always been Denny O'Neil's line, not Miller's. The above quote is from the afterword to the KNIGHTFALL novelization, but O'Neil has been repeating variations of the same line for years, saying that Gotham is "recognizably New York, but with emphasis on the grimmer aspects of the city" (quoted in TALES OF THE DARK KNIGHT: BATMAN'S FIRST FIFTY YEARS 1939-1989, by Mark Cotta Vaz).
>Larry wrote in message <35D5FCA4.1...@hotmail.com>... >>From the looks of the maps, Gotham City is in Jersey, while Metropolis >>is in Delaware, near the Maryland line.
>I live in South Jersey right near where Gotham is placed in the atlas. My >grandpop told me a long time ago that a small city near me was used as a >model for Gotham. At the time he told me (which has to have been at least >12 years ago) i thought he was making it all up. Now I'm not so sure. Has >there ever been a map of Gotham published anywhere? I want to check this >out to see if there's any truth to what my grandpop said.....
I know there is a map of metropolis in the wizard magizine special
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