WB confirms Superman will be "reintroduced"
Len-L
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121936107614461929.html
"Superman' didn't quite work as a film in the way that we wanted it
to," says Mr. [Warner Bros. Pictures Group President Jeff] Robinov.
"It didn't position the character the way he needed to be positioned."
"Had 'Superman' worked in 2006, we would have had a movie for
Christmas of this year or 2009," he adds. "But now the plan is just to
reintroduce Superman without regard to a Batman and Superman movie at
all."
Duggy
He's going to be "reboted" too.
http://www.newsarama.com/film/080822-WBRebootSuperman.html
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Super-Menace
<l...@davlin.net> wrote:
And there was this, farther down:
"The studio is set to announce its plans for future DC movies in the
next month. For now, though, it is focused on releasing four comic-book
films in the next three years, including a third Batman film, a new
film reintroducing Superman, and two movies focusing on other DC Comics
characters."
"Reintroducing" can't mean anything but a reboot.
Duggy
> In article <cfrua4dnlpakob69ufd6co47ghceph3...@4ax.com>, Len-L
Well it could mean a prequel to Superman Returns that replaces
Superman: The Movie... but I think it's clear that they do mean a
reboot.
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Alric Knebel
Yes, and I'm all for it. The key here is to establish a new aesthetic. You
can't do a prequel; you can't do a sequel. You must simply start over after
you recognize that a wrong motif has become entrenched to the franchise. UP
there somewhere is another thread when I said that you have to simply start
over -- origin story, the whole works. The past Superman movies have done
the important job of establishing the genre as something that can appeal to
grownups, but we've outgrown the style that was established in that first
movie (and was continued up to the last one). Other than the thrill created
by the very idea that they'd spend so much money on a beloved character from
my youth, I didn't care for it. Wonderful effects, but the story didn't do
anything for me.
I don't know why Singer hewed so closely to them, considering the direction
the genre went after Burton's BATMAN, and the roaring success of the
Spider-Man and Nolan's BATMAN BEGINS.
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Lilith
And now if they'll only keep Lex Luthor out of it. If they have to
introduce him in the first movie, make it a mention on TV either
noting his importance to Metropolis as a business man or that he was
recently sent to prison as a criminal. Just don't make him the
antagonist for the umpteenth time.
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Super-Menace
<lil...@dcccd.edu> wrote:
The worst thing about all this, IMHO, is that it means we'll likely be
dragged through yet another origin story.
Who the hell doesn't know Superman's origin story already?
M.O.R
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Maybe have him be more behind the scenes. Have him as a large player
in Metropolis's crime problem, someone who Superman believed was an
ally, but was actually a foe, and whose links are so vague that
Superman is caught in a struggle to prove Lex guilt. I think Metallo
could work as a villain, and Braniac as shown in the animated series
would work too. If they do use Kryptonite, I think they should
mention that lead protects Kal-EL from the dreaded object, and show it
also. It needs mentioning I feel.
M.O.R
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I forgot that it has been mentioned in many movies and tv shows with
Supes.
M.O.R
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I forgot that it has been mentioned often.
Parallax
> The worst thing about all this, IMHO, is that it means we'll likely be
> dragged through yet another origin story.
>
> Who the hell doesn't know Superman's origin story already?
Given how this article suggests they have no idea who Superman is or
what makes him work, I'm guessing you won't have seen anything like the
new origin they'll throw at us.
Duggy
> And now if they'll only keep Lex Luthor out of it.
Lex has to be in it... but he has to be pulled out of the focus.
Minor crimes vaguely linked to him until he becomes the focus in a
later film... say #3 or 4.
> If they have to
> introduce him in the first movie, make it a mention on TV either
> noting his importance to Metropolis as a business man
Bigger than that.
> or that he was recently sent to prison as a criminal.
Nah, there's a lot of power in the clean-image Lex, it's pointless to
waste it on that.
> Just don't make him the antagonist for the umpteenth time.
Agreed.
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Eminence
<pred...@esatclear.ie> wrote:
>Maybe have him be more behind the scenes. Have him as a large player
>in Metropolis's crime problem, someone who Superman believed was an
>ally, but was actually a foe, and whose links are so vague that
>Superman is caught in a struggle to prove Lex guilt. I think Metallo
>could work as a villain, and Braniac as shown in the animated series
>would work too. If they do use Kryptonite, I think they should
>mention that lead protects Kal-EL from the dreaded object, and show it
>also. It needs mentioning I feel.
So long as they don't have him be a large player in Metropolis's real
estate market, someone whom Superman believed was an ally, but was
actually a foe, and whose links are so vague that Superman is caught
in a struggle to prove Lex's guilt.
Eminence
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Quadibloc
Because they feel Superman is too valuable for TV, and instead have
the TV series "Smallville", I once humorously suggested that Lara, the
mother of Superman (mostly drawn from her Silver Age incarnation),
would make a natural character for a TV series set on Krypton.
First season: Lara, fuming because Krypton's astronaut program has
been cancelled, struggles to succeed as a career woman working as a
robot designer, in an office full of other engineers who are all men
and zany characters. (Think _Mary Tyler Moore_.) Season finale: Lara
meets Jor-El in the chaos and confusion that accompany the destruction
of the moon Wegthor by the villain Jax-Ur.
Second season: Together, Lara and Krypton's foremost D.A. and
inventor, Jor-El, investigate strange cases for the Krypton Bureau of
Investigation. (Think _X-Files_.) Season finale: they defeat a would-
be dictator of Krypton, and meet a special guest character.
John Savard
Super-Menace
<431e24fc-9de6-452f...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> Second season: Together, Lara and Krypton's foremost D.A. and
> inventor, Jor-El, investigate strange cases for the Krypton Bureau of
> Investigation. (Think _X-Files_.) Season finale: they defeat a would-
> be dictator of Krypton, and meet a special guest character.
I read that one. My favorite bit: The "special guest character" never
kills anybody, but he has no problem with tricking the would-be
dictator into killing himself. Gotta love the complete lack of moral
ambiguity there.
John
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"Born of a giant spider..."
Duggy
> "Born of a giant spider..."
A giant robot spider that he'll have to fight!
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Quadibloc
> I read that one. My favorite bit: The "special guest character" never
> kills anybody, but he has no problem with tricking the would-be
> dictator into killing himself. Gotta love the complete lack of moral
> ambiguity there.
He also never seems to have a problem killing robots or andoids, even
if they pass the Turing test, but then you wouldn't want comic books
teaching your kids atheism!
Yes, the Silver Age days were funny...
John Savard
Quadibloc
> On Aug 27, 5:00 pm, "John" <j...@junk.com> wrote:
>
> > "Born of a giant spider..."
>
> A giant robot spider that he'll have to fight!
A robot spider who sees how humanity is growing complacent and
allowing evil forces to take away its freedom, which therefore trained
a young orphan child in advanced karate techniques?
Or some other giant robot spider?
John Savard
Super-Menace
<4b451556-e5d9-4a6b...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
The worst case was Bizarro. For example, Superboy destroyed the first
Bizarro with bloody-minded intent. "Non-living matter," my ass.
Bizarro not only was sentient, but he (and all the other Bizarros, male
and female) had a strong moral sense. They could even make Bizarro
babies the old-fashioned way, for God's sake.
Bizarro killing am not murder!
YKW (ad hoc)
af1da3...@k7g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
A giant robot spider that tears sh!t the f%ck up. For no particular
reason. A Jon Peters spider.
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M.O.R
> Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:88062cea-8467-4940-a8a4-
> af1da31eb...@k7g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Aug 30, 1:21 am, Duggy <Paul.Dug...@jcu.edu.au> wrote:
> >> On Aug 27, 5:00 pm, "John" <j...@junk.com> wrote:
>
> >> > "Born of a giant spider..."
>
> >> A giant robot spider that he'll have to fight!
>
> > A robot spider who sees how humanity is growing complacent and
> > allowing evil forces to take away its freedom, which therefore trained
> > a young orphan child in advanced karate techniques?
>
> > Or some other giant robot spider?
>
> > John Savard
>
> A giant robot spider that tears sh!t the f%ck up. For no particular
> reason. A Jon Peters spider.
>
John
"Super-Menace" <fort...@arctic.com.invalid> wrote in message
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By direct cell division? Oh, not *that* old fashioned.
Benjamin Pavsner
"Len-L" <l...@davlin.net> wrote in message
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One could only wish Warner Brothers or CW would take the same philosophy
with "Smallville."