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Ultimate Spider-Man
Anthony W
Couch Potato
Posted Today, 02:08 PM #1
Anyone see this? It was...okay I guess. I know when it comes to Spider-
Man cartoons the bar is set very low, but I still feel this could have
been better. The voice actor is..grating. There is no real difference
between Peter and Spider-Man. The animation looks like it was done by
The Avengers B team. The dialogue tries very hard to be snappy and
cute but just falls to the ground with a thud. It's almost like
someone saw the old Teen Titans cartoon and tried to copy that zany
charm and just copied the surface stuff.
0
Perfect Xero
Fanatic
Posted Today, 03:39 PM #2
This just made me miss the excellence that was Spectacular Spider-Man.
Also, I'm kind of wishing they wouldn't go with hansom/popular Harry,
his character makes more sense when he's a nerdy outcast too.
This post has been edited by Perfect Xero: Today, 03:44 PM
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magicdog
Fanatic
Posted Today, 03:52 PM #3
Quote
It's almost like someone saw the old Teen Titans cartoon and tried to
copy that zany charm and just copied the surface stuff.
Exactly what I was thinking! It seemed too jokey and silly. I'm not
averse to mixing humor with action adventure toons, but it was too
much. Not to mention all the turns to the fourth wall from Peter. I
kept thinking of Zack from "Saved By The Bell" everytime that
happened. It takes the viewer out of the story.
I wonder if this wasn't the real premiere? After all it is April Fools
Day.
The Marvel Mashup wasn't funny either.
0
Lantern7
Stalker
Posted Today, 04:22 PM #4
Sure, I think Spectacular Spider-Man is the high mark for USM is to be
judged, but I'm giving this show a chance. While I don't get why SSM
had to be taken down, I can live with USM's quirky nature. I don't
think it's an overt swipe of Teen Titans . . . though with the other
"junior heroes" plugged in, I'm betting that Marvel wanted a mini
version of Young Justice. On the other hand, four of the minds on this
are Man of Action, and that includes Joe Kelly, who would be demented
enough to make things offbeat for Peter Parker.
I got spoiled on a few details in October, when I attended a panel on
Marvel's projects at New York Comic Con. One bit that was warmly
recieved by the crowd was the ever-present Agent Colson getting
plugged in as the new principal of Midtown High. Clark Gregg got a
HUGE ovation when he dropped by the panel. As for bringing in Stan Lee
as a janitor . . . I just hope he's not used too often. A little Stan
goes a long way, IMHO.
I was okay with the opening episodes. Was this the first time we got
Paste-Pot Pete in a cartoon? Yeah, he can call himself "Trapster" all
he wants, but he's still Paste-Pot Pete. I liked Spidey's asides for
exposition as well. It'll take time, but I can get used to it. Biggest
cast misfire . . . Nova. Really, the other three "kids" (Power Man,
Iron Fist, White Tiger) are basically street-level martial artists.
Nova's canon deal is either "What If Peter Parker Joined The Green
Lantern Corps?" or "What If Peter Parker Was The Last Starfighter?" I
did like the "bucket head" moment . . . had to get that out of the
way.
ETA: My current Spidey list? SSM, followed by the way-too-short-lived
MTV series, followed by the Fox series from the mid-90s.
This post has been edited by Lantern7: Today, 04:23 PM
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hunterhunted
Video Archivist
Posted Today, 04:33 PM #5
Zaniness, constant jokes, fourth wall breaking...it's Ultimate
Kidpool. Despite the different powers and insanity, this show comes
off more like Deadpool or Teen Titans lite. I'm hoping that this is
just pilot problems and that the show will right itself tonally.
The one thing that rang completely false to me was Spider-man's
objections to working with the Amateur Avengers. The two episodes did
a poor job establishing that he really liked to work alone and that he
feared being responsible for the safety of others. My favorite part
was Spidey not being able to drive. As someone who grew up in that
area and only learned to drive when I was about to start grad school
in the midwest, I completely get it. I'm already over the gag of
giving Spidey a gadget, not explaining how it works, asking him to
test it out, and waiting for the resulting mayhem. If this happens
with the many spider gadgets they've cooked up, I'm out.
Quote
Was this the first time we got Paste-Pot Pete in a cartoon?
I'm positive he was in Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes show at
least once or twice.
This post has been edited by hunterhunted: Today, 04:45 PM
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runningoutofnam
Video Archivist
Posted Today, 07:58 PM #6
This is based on the Ultimate Spider Man which a number of people
didn't like but a number do. It may be a more friendly version of the
Ultimate Marvel line but make no mistake it's not the mainline marvel.
Plus Peter was always wisecracking and fourth wall breaking wouldn't
be out of line with Peter Parker the teenager.
I think so far the series has massive potential. It's hard to live up
to a series that has a huge nostaliga factor like the old spiderman
cartoon with the guitar into rocking out "radioactive spider blood,
spider blood! radioactice spider man!".
Give it time to grow and it may turn out way better then the old
series.
Also Trapster is his name after his failed solo career against the
Human Torch. Calling him by his old name sends him into a rage.
0
Anthony W
Couch Potato
Posted Today, 09:25 PM #7
Really runningoutofnam? You see massive potential in this? As for
living up to a series that has a huge nostaliga factor like the old
spiderman cartoon with the guitar into rocking out "radioactive spider
blood, spider blood! radioactice spider man!"? That cartoon wasn't
very good either.
Like I said in my first post when it comes to Spider-Man cartoons the
bar is set very low and that is the only reason why I said it was
okay. It just feels like a soulless cash in, like no real thought or
love went into it. You could take the first two episodes and toss them
on Marvel Mash-Up and not miss a beat. Of course the cartoons on Mash-
Up have the excuse of being created in a time that wasn't very good
for adaptions of comic material. Ultimate Spider-Man doesn't have that
excuse.
0
runningoutofnam
Video Archivist
Posted Today, 09:48 PM #8
Quote
That cartoon wasn't very good either.
Yet a ton of people do consider it good for the nostaliga due to
rushing home from school to watch it. True it's no X-men cartoon but
it was part of the old cartoon block.
0
InternalParadox
Loyal Viewer
Posted Today, 11:50 PM #9
I was disappointed, partly because this show is nothing like the
Ultimate Spider-Man comics. USM had slow pacing and incredible
character development. The only thing I recognized from USM was Mary
Jane. She and Peter are bff who never quite started a romantic
relationship (they build it up in the book), and she wants to be a
journalist. That was it. In USM, Fury tells Peter he's too young to
join SHIELD, but that they'll keep an eye on him. They're using the
title, but not the original content.
As for the show itself: the show has ADD. I don't mind breaking the
fourth wall or gags, but I feel like the show is all over the place.
There are just too many interruptions. And gadgets. Who gives a 16-
year-old a motorcycle when he doesn't even have a learner's permit?
I like Stan as the Janitor. MJ trying to interview Spidey is going to
get old fast, unless he lets her in on his secret (like he does in
USM). They kept the "cool" Aunt May from USM, which I appreciate (not
sure why they were celebrating a dead man's birthday with cake and
candles, though. I understand the desire to mark the day, but to
celebrate it like a regular birthday seems weird).
Was anyone else bothered by Doc Conners working for SHIELD? Or the
fact that he had two arms?
I like the other Super Teens, especially White Tiger. Wish we saw more
of them. In fact, I wish this was just "Young Avengers" with the same
cast of characters (to distinguish it from the comic Young Avengers),
and it focused on the whole team equally. I don't expect this show to
reach the quality of Young Justice, but a teen team would be more
interesting than Spider-Man, who happens to be part of a team, IMHO.
http://officialfan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=offtopic&action=display&thread=419790&page=2
« Reply #26 Yesterday at 11:10pm »
I didn't love it, but I didn't hate it, either. The "gadgets" are
gonna get to me sooner or later. That's not what Spidey's about. Give
him his webshooters, and let that be that. Also, the "team" dynamic
bugs me a bit, but that could be because there wasn't a likeable one
in that bunch. Who's that snot nosed Nova wanna be? Where's Rich
Ryder? That said, the animation was flawless, and the villain
selection is top shelf. And kudos to them for using Agent Coulson, and
getting the guy that plays him in the movies.
Ultimate Spider-Man animated series discussion thread:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=373287&page=12
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=373287&page=13
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=373287&page=14
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=373287&page=15
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=373287&page=16
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=373287&page=17
The Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon Mega Thread:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?317258-The-Ultimate-Spider-Man-cartoon-Mega-Thread/page30
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?317258-The-Ultimate-Spider-Man-cartoon-Mega-Thread/page31
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?317258-The-Ultimate-Spider-Man-cartoon-Mega-Thread/page32
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?408199-Ultimate-Spider-Man
This board is reserved for discussions about: "Ultimate Spider-
Man" (2011):
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Forum > Cartoons > The Marvel Animation Forum > Ultimate Spider-Man
"Great Power"/"Great Responsibility" Series Premiere Talkback
(Spoilers):
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Ultimate Spider-Man
Anthony W
Couch Potato
Posted Today, 02:08 PM #1
Anyone see this? It was...okay I guess. I know when it comes to Spider-
Man cartoons the bar is set very low, but I still feel this could have
been better. The voice actor is..grating. There is no real difference
between Peter and Spider-Man. The animation looks like it was done by
The Avengers B team. The dialogue tries very hard to be snappy and
cute but just falls to the ground with a thud. It's almost like
someone saw the old Teen Titans cartoon and tried to copy that zany
charm and just copied the surface stuff.
0
Perfect Xero
Fanatic
Posted Today, 03:39 PM #2
This just made me miss the excellence that was Spectacular Spider-Man.
Also, I'm kind of wishing they wouldn't go with hansom/popular Harry,
his character makes more sense when he's a nerdy outcast too.
This post has been edited by Perfect Xero: Today, 03:44 PM
0
magicdog
Fanatic
Posted Today, 03:52 PM #3
Quote
It's almost like someone saw the old Teen Titans cartoon and tried to
copy that zany charm and just copied the surface stuff.
Exactly what I was thinking! It seemed too jokey and silly. I'm not
averse to mixing humor with action adventure toons, but it was too
much. Not to mention all the turns to the fourth wall from Peter. I
kept thinking of Zack from "Saved By The Bell" everytime that
happened. It takes the viewer out of the story.
I wonder if this wasn't the real premiere? After all it is April Fools
Day.
The Marvel Mashup wasn't funny either.
0
Lantern7
Stalker
Posted Today, 04:22 PM #4
Sure, I think Spectacular Spider-Man is the high mark for USM is to be
judged, but I'm giving this show a chance. While I don't get why SSM
had to be taken down, I can live with USM's quirky nature. I don't
think it's an overt swipe of Teen Titans . . . though with the other
"junior heroes" plugged in, I'm betting that Marvel wanted a mini
version of Young Justice. On the other hand, four of the minds on this
are Man of Action, and that includes Joe Kelly, who would be demented
enough to make things offbeat for Peter Parker.
I got spoiled on a few details in October, when I attended a panel on
Marvel's projects at New York Comic Con. One bit that was warmly
recieved by the crowd was the ever-present Agent Colson getting
plugged in as the new principal of Midtown High. Clark Gregg got a
HUGE ovation when he dropped by the panel. As for bringing in Stan Lee
as a janitor . . . I just hope he's not used too often. A little Stan
goes a long way, IMHO.
I was okay with the opening episodes. Was this the first time we got
Paste-Pot Pete in a cartoon? Yeah, he can call himself "Trapster" all
he wants, but he's still Paste-Pot Pete. I liked Spidey's asides for
exposition as well. It'll take time, but I can get used to it. Biggest
cast misfire . . . Nova. Really, the other three "kids" (Power Man,
Iron Fist, White Tiger) are basically street-level martial artists.
Nova's canon deal is either "What If Peter Parker Joined The Green
Lantern Corps?" or "What If Peter Parker Was The Last Starfighter?" I
did like the "bucket head" moment . . . had to get that out of the
way.
ETA: My current Spidey list? SSM, followed by the way-too-short-lived
MTV series, followed by the Fox series from the mid-90s.
This post has been edited by Lantern7: Today, 04:23 PM
0
hunterhunted
Video Archivist
Posted Today, 04:33 PM #5
Zaniness, constant jokes, fourth wall breaking...it's Ultimate
Kidpool. Despite the different powers and insanity, this show comes
off more like Deadpool or Teen Titans lite. I'm hoping that this is
just pilot problems and that the show will right itself tonally.
The one thing that rang completely false to me was Spider-man's
objections to working with the Amateur Avengers. The two episodes did
a poor job establishing that he really liked to work alone and that he
feared being responsible for the safety of others. My favorite part
was Spidey not being able to drive. As someone who grew up in that
area and only learned to drive when I was about to start grad school
in the midwest, I completely get it. I'm already over the gag of
giving Spidey a gadget, not explaining how it works, asking him to
test it out, and waiting for the resulting mayhem. If this happens
with the many spider gadgets they've cooked up, I'm out.
Quote
Was this the first time we got Paste-Pot Pete in a cartoon?
I'm positive he was in Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes show at
least once or twice.
This post has been edited by hunterhunted: Today, 04:45 PM
0
runningoutofnam
Video Archivist
Posted Today, 07:58 PM #6
This is based on the Ultimate Spider Man which a number of people
didn't like but a number do. It may be a more friendly version of the
Ultimate Marvel line but make no mistake it's not the mainline marvel.
Plus Peter was always wisecracking and fourth wall breaking wouldn't
be out of line with Peter Parker the teenager.
I think so far the series has massive potential. It's hard to live up
to a series that has a huge nostaliga factor like the old spiderman
cartoon with the guitar into rocking out "radioactive spider blood,
spider blood! radioactice spider man!".
Give it time to grow and it may turn out way better then the old
series.
Also Trapster is his name after his failed solo career against the
Human Torch. Calling him by his old name sends him into a rage.
0
Anthony W
Couch Potato
Posted Today, 09:25 PM #7
Really runningoutofnam? You see massive potential in this? As for
living up to a series that has a huge nostaliga factor like the old
spiderman cartoon with the guitar into rocking out "radioactive spider
blood, spider blood! radioactice spider man!"? That cartoon wasn't
very good either.
Like I said in my first post when it comes to Spider-Man cartoons the
bar is set very low and that is the only reason why I said it was
okay. It just feels like a soulless cash in, like no real thought or
love went into it. You could take the first two episodes and toss them
on Marvel Mash-Up and not miss a beat. Of course the cartoons on Mash-
Up have the excuse of being created in a time that wasn't very good
for adaptions of comic material. Ultimate Spider-Man doesn't have that
excuse.
0
runningoutofnam
Video Archivist
Posted Today, 09:48 PM #8
Quote
That cartoon wasn't very good either.
Yet a ton of people do consider it good for the nostaliga due to
rushing home from school to watch it. True it's no X-men cartoon but
it was part of the old cartoon block.
0
InternalParadox
Loyal Viewer
Posted Today, 11:50 PM #9
I was disappointed, partly because this show is nothing like the
Ultimate Spider-Man comics. USM had slow pacing and incredible
character development. The only thing I recognized from USM was Mary
Jane. She and Peter are bff who never quite started a romantic
relationship (they build it up in the book), and she wants to be a
journalist. That was it. In USM, Fury tells Peter he's too young to
join SHIELD, but that they'll keep an eye on him. They're using the
title, but not the original content.
As for the show itself: the show has ADD. I don't mind breaking the
fourth wall or gags, but I feel like the show is all over the place.
There are just too many interruptions. And gadgets. Who gives a 16-
year-old a motorcycle when he doesn't even have a learner's permit?
I like Stan as the Janitor. MJ trying to interview Spidey is going to
get old fast, unless he lets her in on his secret (like he does in
USM). They kept the "cool" Aunt May from USM, which I appreciate (not
sure why they were celebrating a dead man's birthday with cake and
candles, though. I understand the desire to mark the day, but to
celebrate it like a regular birthday seems weird).
Was anyone else bothered by Doc Conners working for SHIELD? Or the
fact that he had two arms?
I like the other Super Teens, especially White Tiger. Wish we saw more
of them. In fact, I wish this was just "Young Avengers" with the same
cast of characters (to distinguish it from the comic Young Avengers),
and it focused on the whole team equally. I don't expect this show to
reach the quality of Young Justice, but a teen team would be more
interesting than Spider-Man, who happens to be part of a team, IMHO.
http://officialfan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=offtopic&action=display&thread=419790&page=2
« Reply #26 Yesterday at 11:10pm »
I didn't love it, but I didn't hate it, either. The "gadgets" are
gonna get to me sooner or later. That's not what Spidey's about. Give
him his webshooters, and let that be that. Also, the "team" dynamic
bugs me a bit, but that could be because there wasn't a likeable one
in that bunch. Who's that snot nosed Nova wanna be? Where's Rich
Ryder? That said, the animation was flawless, and the villain
selection is top shelf. And kudos to them for using Agent Coulson, and
getting the guy that plays him in the movies.
Ultimate Spider-Man animated series discussion thread:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=373287&page=12
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=373287&page=13
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=373287&page=14
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=373287&page=15
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=373287&page=16
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=373287&page=17
The Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon Mega Thread:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?317258-The-Ultimate-Spider-Man-cartoon-Mega-Thread/page30
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?317258-The-Ultimate-Spider-Man-cartoon-Mega-Thread/page31
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?317258-The-Ultimate-Spider-Man-cartoon-Mega-Thread/page32
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?408199-Ultimate-Spider-Man
This board is reserved for discussions about: "Ultimate Spider-
Man" (2011):
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Forum > Cartoons > The Marvel Animation Forum > Ultimate Spider-Man
"Great Power"/"Great Responsibility" Series Premiere Talkback
(Spoilers):
http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?293488-Ultimate-Spider-Man-quot-Great-Power-quot-quot-Great-Responsibility-quot-Series-Premiere-Talkback-(Spoilers)
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