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Loren Di Iorio

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Oct 4, 2001, 10:13:20 AM10/4/01
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This post contains the following Bat-related newsbytes:
- Babs' Year One ready for retconning in 9-issue series
- Bru renews, talks Emma Peel
- The Dark Knight Strikes Again colour preview available
- Archived Batman Beyond episodes air in Canada

All news, unless otherwise stated, can be found at:
http://www.comicon.com/newsarama/


Babs' Year One Ready For Retconning In 9-issue Series

Though Chuck Dixon is moving to CrossGen Comics
in Florida, he still has a bunch of DC projects in the
works, including a Batgirl: Year One mini with co-writer
Scott Beatty.

It will be a nine-issue series set to come out next year,
with penciller Marcos Martin, who worked on Robin:
Year One #4, and The Joker: Last Laugh #2. Each issue
will have heavier stock covers, similar to those for issues
#2-12 of Batman: The Long Halloween.

While Beatty said he and Dixon laid the groundwork for
this story in the final pages of Robin: Year One, in terms
of narrative, Batgirl: Year One is a bit different. "Alfred
was really the window into the previous story. This time,
Babs is the seer.

"We're tackling the 'Million Dollar Debut Of Batgirl' in a
radically different way. Barbara Gordon's origin hasn't
benefitted from any radical, post-Crisis reboot to cast
off the campier aspects of her beginnings. She was, after
all, created for the Batman TV series and then inserted
into comics continuity. While we're keeping the fundamental
bells and whistles intact, readers will see a much broader
interpretation of why Babs ultimately decided to become
a masked vigilante," said Beatty.

"Batman, we'll discover, certainly wasn't her first choice
as a role model."

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Bru Renews, Talks Emma Peel

Regular Batman writer Ed Brubaker has renewed his
exclusive contract with DC. Bru is also writing the new
Catwoman monthly, and has this to say on Selina's new
costume (courtesy of http://www.toonzone.net ):

"My wife suggested giving her an Emma Peel catsuit,
and I always wanted her to wear a hood/leather
aviation-style helmet that buckles under the chin,
and Darwyn [Cooke] took all that, added all the cool
stylistic stuff, and the whip belt, etc., and made it work.
I don't think anyone approached it trying to copy the
animated costume, and I honestly think it looks a lot
different. But they are both black and have no tail.

"Oh, and for anyone still wondering, I love the goggles,
and yes, she wears them all the time (at least, when she's
in costume). You'll see how well they work in the comic."

Catwoman #1 will debut on November 28.

Also renewing their exclusive contracts with DC are
artist Eduardo Risso - who continues to develop a
Batman graphic novel with Brian Azzarello - and colorist
Danny Vozzo.

DC colorists Tom McCraw, Patricia Mulvihill, and
Sherilyn Van Valkenburgh, have signed exclusive
agreements with the company, as well.

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The Dark Knight Strikes Again Colour Preview Available

In this month's Previews, DC produced a first look preview
of some colour pages from The Dark Knight Strikes Again #1.
Click on the link below for the advance pics:

http://www.comicon.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000372.html

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Archived Batman Beyond Episodes Air In Canada

http://www.toonzone.net reports that YTV will air another
episode new to its Canadian viewers this Saturday at 10 a.m.

In "Payback", Terry tangles with a black-suited, laser
whip-wielding vigilante called Payback. This new defender specializes
in terrorizing the people who bully or abuse
teenagers. It originally aired on the WB on May 13, 2000.

...Loren

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Donald Eric Kesler

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Oct 5, 2001, 4:44:56 AM10/5/01
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"Loren Di Iorio" <yu21...@yorku.ca> wrote in message news:<P4_u7.17153$Uf2.2...@news20.bellglobal.com>...
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> The Dark Knight Strikes Again Colour Preview Available
>
> In this month's Previews, DC produced a first look preview
> of some colour pages from The Dark Knight Strikes Again #1.
> Click on the link below for the advance pics:
>
> http://www.comicon.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000372.html
>
> --
>
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>
> ...Loren
>
> Find free green at http://www.geocities.com/gcpdguy/

Hello Loren,

I hate to say this, but I have seen Mr. Miller do much better. Also,
the colors seem very loud and garish. I hope that the end product
looks far better than the preview.

"Be there to witness what may be their finest work to date, as THE
DARK
KNIGHT STRIKES AGAIN sets a new standard for comics."

That's crazy. No one outside of DC has even read the story and it is
already being hailed as revolutionary. It reminds me of the way in
which films are often marketed as the "Summer Blockbuster" or "A Smash
Hit" in trailers.

Personally, I am willing to buy the first book to see if the rest is
worth reading. Beyond that . . . Well, we will just have to wait and
see if it is revolutionary or revolting.

Regards and Best Wishes,

Donald Eric Kesler

SEANDS9

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Oct 5, 2001, 9:22:53 PM10/5/01
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>Subject: Re: News: Babs gets booted; Bru renews; TDKR2 preview
>From: donald_er...@hotmail.com (Donald Eric Kesler)
>Date: 10/5/01 4:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9ad951e6.01100...@posting.google.com>


I totally agree with you after seeing the preview. Here we go again, "Spawn Vs.
Batman II: Revenge of the Dark Knight". This is not the Frank Miller who
produced DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN, BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS, the WOLVERINE
miniseries, and BATMAN: YEAR ONE.

Englebert Lau

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Oct 6, 2001, 4:43:52 AM10/6/01
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Loren Di Iorio wrote:

> Though Chuck Dixon is moving to CrossGen Comics
> in Florida, he still has a bunch of DC projects in the
> works, including a Batgirl: Year One mini with co-writer
> Scott Beatty.

So will Dixon continue to write Robin, Birds of Prey, and Nightwing?

Robin and Birds of Prey (especially Birds of Prey) have been atrocious at
times... I think he's writing too many comics, so the quality of his
writing is suffering. I'd still like to see Dixon write Robin #100... but
at this point, a change might be refreshing.

- Eng

Richard B. Becker

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Oct 6, 2001, 3:34:55 PM10/6/01
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Englebert Lau wrote:
>
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Loren Di Iorio wrote:
>
> > Though Chuck Dixon is moving to CrossGen Comics
> > in Florida, he still has a bunch of DC projects in the
> > works, including a Batgirl: Year One mini with co-writer
> > Scott Beatty.
>
> So will Dixon continue to write Robin, Birds of Prey, and Nightwing?

Temporarily, yes. I think I read that he's planning to move to
Florida (where CrossGen is located) around March or so. That means
he'll probably have scripts turned in for every issue through June
or July (or possibly later) before he leaves DC. It also means that
we won't see his CrossGen work until summer at the earliest. But he
did specifically say in the interview that I read (sorry, don't
remember where it was...someone posted the link to an interview
with him at the time that the story broke that he was going to CG)
that he'll be giving up his current ongoing projects at DC when
he leaves. So expect to see at least another 8- 10 issues from him
on all of these titles.


>
> Robin and Birds of Prey (especially Birds of Prey) have been atrocious at
> times... I think he's writing too many comics, so the quality of his
> writing is suffering. I'd still like to see Dixon write Robin #100... but
> at this point, a change might be refreshing.
>

I agree completely. Dixon was never my favorite bat-writer. I've
always thought he was good, but not great. And after doing the
same titles for this long, he seems to be losing steam. As a fan
of both the bat-books and CrossGen, I'm really looking forward to
this move. I think new blood on Robin, Nightwing, and Birds of Prey
could revitalive those titles. And at the same time, I'm curious to
see Dixon doing something different, as I think he has the potential
to do some great work for CrossGen.

--Richard

Englebert Lau

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Oct 7, 2001, 3:39:45 AM10/7/01
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On Sat, 6 Oct 2001, Richard B. Becker wrote:

> remember where it was...someone posted the link to an interview
> with him at the time that the story broke that he was going to CG)

Yaknow, I haven't been there myself recently... but I bet
www.dixonverse.com/ has news and details about this.

> he leaves. So expect to see at least another 8- 10 issues from him
> on all of these titles.

Well... I decided a little while ago, that I'd wait until Robin #100 - and
if I didn't like it, I'd drop every Dixon title in my file (Nightwing,
Robin, and Birds of Prey). Even if they're bringing in new writers... a
break might be nice (if Robin #100 stinks). I'll switch to trade
paperbacks or something.



> of both the bat-books and CrossGen, I'm really looking forward to
> this move. I think new blood on Robin, Nightwing, and Birds of Prey

I'm starting to get sick of CrossGen stealing great DC talent (ex. Paul
Pelletier, Greg Land)... but in this case, I think Dixon's getting stale -
and needs to write something new.

> could revitalive those titles. And at the same time, I'm curious to
> see Dixon doing something different, as I think he has the potential
> to do some great work for CrossGen.

I agree... hopefully he goes back to his old form. He made Tim Drake my
favorite character in comics... Robin II: the Joker's Wild is one my
favorite Robin stories... but this year, Dixon has completely disappointed
me. For me - the Ra's Al Ghul storyline in Birds of Prey was the wrost
story I've read in quite a while.

- Eng

Monica L. Tittle

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Oct 7, 2001, 1:36:38 PM10/7/01
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On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 01:39:45 -0600, Englebert Lau <en...@ucalgary.ca>
wrote:


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>favorite Robin stories... but this year, Dixon has completely disappointed
>me. For me - the Ra's Al Ghul storyline in Birds of Prey was the wrost
>story I've read in quite a while.

The whole thing was just a huge plot device to get Canary her power
back. It's like they were sitting around trying to think of a way to
give her the cry back and noticed that Ra's had been hanging around
practically every book in the DCU (I know, but it sure does seem like
it!) and thought "Hey, let's have Dinah fall in love with this guy and
end up in the pit! I'm sure that the readers will overlook the fact
that she really should already know what he is and all the nasty stuff
he's done in the past."


Monica Tittle
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Joseph Phelan

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Oct 8, 2001, 6:08:27 PM10/8/01
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"Monica L. Tittle" <histo...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:3bc09113...@news.charter.net...

> On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 01:39:45 -0600, Englebert Lau <en...@ucalgary.ca>
> wrote:
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> Possible Spoilers
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> >favorite Robin stories... but this year, Dixon has completely
disappointed
> >me. For me - the Ra's Al Ghul storyline in Birds of Prey was the wrost
> >story I've read in quite a while.
>
> The whole thing was just a huge plot device to get Canary her power
> back. It's like they were sitting around trying to think of a way to
> give her the cry back and noticed that Ra's had been hanging around
> practically every book in the DCU (I know, but it sure does seem like
> it!) and thought "Hey, let's have Dinah fall in love with this guy and
> end up in the pit! I'm sure that the readers will overlook the fact
> that she really should already know what he is and all the nasty stuff
> he's done in the past."
>

Yeah, this does sound right.

But, on another hand, have you fallen for someone, who in hindsight is not
right for you?

Paul

Englebert Lau

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Oct 8, 2001, 6:43:01 PM10/8/01
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On Sun, 7 Oct 2001, Monica L. Tittle wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 01:39:45 -0600, Englebert Lau <en...@ucalgary.ca>
> wrote:
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> Possible Spoilers
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> The whole thing was just a huge plot device to get Canary her power
> back.

Hey, I didn't think of that. Still... Dinah's a fine character without
any super powers. She probably fits in better in the Batman Universe as
a vigilante with no special powers.

> end up in the pit! I'm sure that the readers will overlook the fact
> that she really should already know what he is and all the nasty stuff
> he's done in the past."

Well... now that we've endured a really horrible storyline(s), maybe
they'll do something with the Canary Cry. I doubt it... but as a fan of
Chuck Dixon (until this past year), I'm hoping he ends his run on Birds of
Prey with a high note, before moving onto CrossGen.

- Eng

Monica L. Tittle

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Oct 8, 2001, 9:23:22 PM10/8/01
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2001 23:08:27 +0100, "Joseph Phelan"
<Joseph...@btinternet.com> wrote:

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>"Monica L. Tittle" <histo...@charter.net> wrote in message
>news:3bc09113...@news.charter.net...
>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 01:39:45 -0600, Englebert Lau <en...@ucalgary.ca>
>> wrote:
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>But, on another hand, have you fallen for someone, who in hindsight is not
>right for you?

Nope, married my high school sweetheart and we've been together 14
years. ;)

I know what you mean though, it's the whole 'bad boy' thing, but this
is *way* beyond not right for you!

Monica L. Tittle

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Oct 8, 2001, 9:26:25 PM10/8/01
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2001 16:43:01 -0600, Englebert Lau <en...@ucalgary.ca>
wrote:

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>On Sun, 7 Oct 2001, Monica L. Tittle wrote:
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>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 01:39:45 -0600, Englebert Lau <en...@ucalgary.ca>
>> wrote:
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>Hey, I didn't think of that. Still... Dinah's a fine character without
>any super powers. She probably fits in better in the Batman Universe as
>a vigilante with no special powers.

Her not having powers is one of the reasons I like her so much. The
fact that her and Bab's are paired in BOP is the major appeal. They
both more than hold their own in a world where people fly, have super
stregth, etc.


>
>> end up in the pit! I'm sure that the readers will overlook the fact
>> that she really should already know what he is and all the nasty stuff
>> he's done in the past."
>
>Well... now that we've endured a really horrible storyline(s), maybe
>they'll do something with the Canary Cry. I doubt it... but as a fan of
>Chuck Dixon (until this past year), I'm hoping he ends his run on Birds of
>Prey with a high note, before moving onto CrossGen.

I'm hoping that she can have kids now. Since Ollie's back (sort of)
that would make for a very interesting storyline.

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