Bible banned in Canada
Jeff Masterson
its citizens against historic enemies. And it exposes the idiocy of
the people involved in classifying " hate ". My hope is that two
things will happen because of this very important and stupid act. One
being that the idiots behind this will be taken out of their jobs and
put in more suitable careers such as dog catching. The other hopeful
outcome is that Christians will stop bashing gays. To ban the Bible
is stupid, down right retarded, you just can't get any more stupid.
With of course the exception of gay bashing.
PJ DiSanti
yourself of course.
PJ
--
"The very aim and end of our institutions is just this: that we may think
what we like and say what we think."
- Oliver Wendell Holmes
"To be loved is to be fortunate, but to be hated is to achieve distinction."
- Minna Antrim
"The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken
seriously."
- Hubert H. Humphrey
"The idea that you can merchandise candidates for high office like breakfast
cereal--that you can gather votes like box tops--is, I think, the ultimate
indignity to the democratic process."
- Adlai Stevenson
"Jeff Masterson" <jeffma...@usa.com> wrote in message
news:5ed3246b.03102...@posting.google.com...
LeifSkyving
>From: "PJ DiSanti" p...@pjdisantinospam.com
>Date: 10/21/03 7:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <oWllb.5719$8x2.3...@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>
>
>Do you realize how many stupid gay retards you just insulted? Not counting
>yourself of course.
>
>PJ
and Chafey?
Leif Skyving
world's funniest man
http://www.funnyswede.com
PJ DiSanti
PJ
--
"The very aim and end of our institutions is just this: that we may think
what we like and say what we think."
- Oliver Wendell Holmes
"To be loved is to be fortunate, but to be hated is to achieve distinction."
- Minna Antrim
"The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken
seriously."
- Hubert H. Humphrey
"The idea that you can merchandise candidates for high office like breakfast
cereal--that you can gather votes like box tops--is, I think, the ultimate
indignity to the democratic process."
- Adlai Stevenson
"LeifSkyving" <leifs...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031021224638...@mb-m10.aol.com...
LeifSkyving
>Message-id: <7hmlb.5742$8x2.3...@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>
>
>Well I wasn't going to go there, but yes even Chafey.
>
>PJ
>
LOL
LS
Tim Shell
>
>Banning the Bible as a hate book shows Canadas willingness to protect
>its citizens against historic enemies.
The Bible is okay. Starts out pretty good. Lot of good character parts. Bogs
down in the middle, though. Definitely a crap ending, pretty incoherent. The
sequel, Book of Mormon. Not much better. Whoever wrote it is no Elmore
Leonard.
Laura
>things will happen because of this very important and stupid act. One
>being that the idiots behind this will be taken out of their jobs and
>put in more suitable careers such as dog catching.
you know Art Bell got banned for "hate speech" as well?
Laura
Keep your hands and arms inside at all times until the ride has come to a
complete stop.
LeifSkyving
>you know Art Bell got banned for "hate speech" as well?
>
>
>Laura
Oh yea? I hadn't heard, what he say?
Laura
something like some muslims are bad but not all of them. However, it has
somehow ended up as part of that hatespeech law. I heard him talking about it
as I was driving in to CA this past weekend.
I guess he's been doing the show on weekends, and it had to do with a 9/11
anniversary.
http://www.cfra.com/headlines/index.asp#
That should take you there. If not, go to the main website http://www.cfra.com
and click where it says "coast to coast am"
LeifSkyving
Thanks
L
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
and Jockbreath Jeffy, and, you,
Mommy Leify, are _*ALL*_ totally
fucking stupid-an-retarded.
And I am pretty sure at least two of you,
have admitted to being way-gay.
And the other one, is still
semi-in-the-closet.
But, of course, just because you idiots, are
gay, doesn't mean, being gay makes you a
retarded idiot. But, in your par-tic-u-lar cases,
it seems to go, pretty much, hand-in-hand-together.
(Or, is it that cock-in-hand-together).
Oh, by the way, I am neither gay nor am I retarded idiot.
Not that there is anything wrong with either of those two conditions.
But, let me tell you, when you combine those two unique-states-of-mind,
you will, surely, ALWAYS get, the likes of--:
Momma Leify, Jockbreath Jeffy,
and Pee Jay--:
Cock-in-Hand-Together.
(With Psycho Fruit Nazi Tommy Joey shitting
on all three of your way-retarded-an-willing heads!!)
Yours (Bloody!!) Truly,
Chafey
AKA: David
(c) 2003
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/22/03 1:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9637-3F9...@storefull-2198.public.lawson.webtv.net>
>
>
>Oh, by the way, I am neither gay nor am I retarded idiot.
>
LOL thanks for making that clear.....*AGAIN*
Whayfey Chafey
we get
that
you
are soooooooooo straight,
and date waaaaay
beautiful
wom
en
tee hee hee
we get
it
Wayfey Chafey:
you are soooooo
not gay!
you
da
t
e
w
o
m
e
n tee hee hee
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
Actually, make that--:
"Oh, by the way, _*I*_ am neither gay, nor am I retarded, IDIOT....!!"
_*OR*_
"Oh, by the way, _*I*_ am neither gay, nor am I
a retarded idiot."
Well, I know for sure that Pee Jay
and Jockbreath Jeffy, and, you,
Mommy Leify, are _*ALL*_ totally
fucking stupid-an-retarded.
And I am pretty sure at least two of you, have admitted to being
way-gay.
And the other one, is still
semi-in-the-closet.
But, of course, just because you idiots, are gay, doesn't mean, being
gay makes you a retarded idiot. But, in your par-tic-u-lar cases, it
seems to go, pretty much, hand-in-hand-together.
(Or, is it that cock-in-hand-together).
Oh, by the way, _*I*_ am neither gay, nor am I retarded, IDIOT....!!
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
Maybe if you'd come out of the closet, --*completely*--, at least, then,
maybe, --*some*-- of the most-hard-up of
the gay population might take
pity on you, and come to
see your boring way-HACK
act, out of pure
sympathy.
(You know, people like, Pee Jay, and
Jockbreath Jeffy.)
They'll be there, rooting for you. They'll even
write your 'newly-an-NUDELY-out-of-the-closet'
gay-themed way-HACK jokes for you.
LeifSkyving
>From: sing-so...@webtv.net (Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!)
>Message-id: <9638-3F9...@storefull-2198.public.lawson.webtv.net>
**SHEESH** and **DOUBLE SHEESH**
PJ DiSanti
Hey just because you don't take the meds doesn't mean they won't help.
PJ
--
"The very aim and end of our institutions is just this: that we may think
what we like and say what we think."
- Oliver Wendell Holmes
"To be loved is to be fortunate, but to be hated is to achieve distinction."
- Minna Antrim
"The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken
seriously."
- Hubert H. Humphrey
"The idea that you can merchandise candidates for high office like breakfast
cereal--that you can gather votes like box tops--is, I think, the ultimate
indignity to the democratic process."
- Adlai Stevenson
"Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!" <sing-so...@webtv.net> wrote in
message news:9639-3F9...@storefull-2198.public.lawson.webtv.net...
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
means they most certainly DO _*NOT*_
_*WORK*_....for you, at least.
I, personally, have no need
to take drugs of any kind.
But, it sounds like you, surely, DO, and that you could really benefit
from a major medication dosage --*adjustment*-- of some sort, Pee Jay.
Maybe a lot more, or a lot less,
and THEN, MAYBE, you'll stop
obsessing and cooing over that
"oh-so-intelligent" and "impressive",
Mr. Adolph
Hitler.
HELLO!? Hitler wasn't "intelligent".
That's a positive word. Hitler was not
a positive person.
He was a domineering IDIOT!!
HELLO!? Anybody home in that way-fucked-up-unfunny-head-of-yours,
Pee Jay!?
Hitler, was, also,
about as paranoid, as you have
come across on this newsgroup. And
about as unfunny as --*your*-- weak attempts
at humor, too.
Like your excruciatingly UNFUNNY
WAY-hacky "joke/clunkers" about
people being burned
in a fire.
So, please, seek some psychological
help with all-of-that, before you take
your pathetically unfunny act to
Vegas.
Buh-Bye For Now, Pee Jay.
Jeff Masterson
> Do you realize how many stupid gay retards you just insulted? Not counting
> yourself of course.
Ted Kennedy
> yourself of course.
>
> PJ
>
> --
Tommy Joseph
I think everything on earth should be banned (with death being the
penalty for challenging the ban), and then, in time, those with the courage
to challenge the bans in the face of death will become our new leaders, our
new COURAGEOUS leaders, and ultimately more stuff will become 'unbanned' by
our new leaders and later their successors. Finally, after everything has
become successfully 'unbanned' (making everything legal), our new leaders
can begin to ban the stuff that really needs to be banned until they go too
far and wind up getting banned themselves.
Tommy Joe
Tommy Joseph
> From: leifs...@aol.com (LeifSkyving)
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: alt.comedy.standup
> Date: 22 Oct 2003 05:10:32 GMT
> Subject: Re: Bible banned in Canada
>
>>
You don't want to hear it, Leif. Believe me, you'd hate it.
Tommy Joe
Tommy Joseph
Thank for the mention, Chafey. From now on I'm going to save myself a
lot of time and just read your posts backwards.
Tommy Joe
Tommy Joseph
I have been studying the gay phenomenon for some time now. A lot of
people believe they can detect homosexuality in a man's walk, his speech, or
even in some cases whether or not he wears a mustache. I got past this
stage long ago. I have discovered a sure-fire method for detecting
homosexuality in a man. It's in his cock. It's hard to describe, really -
it cannot be described in words, only with pictures. I have pictures of a
hundred cocks and a pictures of a hundred faces of those who own the cocks.
It's really hard to explain, especially as tired as I am at present, but any
person with slightly above average intelligence can sit down and
successfully place the homo dick with it's homo owner, every time. But they
can't try too hard. It's an instinctive type thing. The mind must be
'allowed' to work, not forced - just as a kid gets heavily into playing with
a jig saw puzzle. It's hard to explain, but you can't tell the homo by just
a picture of the face, but for some reason the homo dick is a dead giveaway
every time, especially when paired with the face. (Note to Leif Skyving -
Yes, some of the faces have mustaches, but not all of them. Most of them,
believe it or not, have goatees.)........Enough of this for now. I'm boring
even myself. Just believe me when I tell you that you can tell if a guy is
gay or not by studying his dick. In fact, if you study it long enough, you
might be gay yourself. Or, like me, just an interested scientific type of
guy.
Tommy Joe
Tommy Joseph
> From: "PJ DiSanti" <p...@pjdisantinospam.com>
> Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
> Newsgroups: alt.comedy.standup
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:46:01 GMT
> Subject: Re: Bible banned in Canada
>
> "Oh, by the way, I am neither gay nor am I retarded idiot."
>
> Hey just because you don't take the meds doesn't mean they won't help.
>
> PJ
How about this? This thread started out about The Bible. All the
posts into this thread are about homosexuality. I always suspected Jesus
Christ was a homo. I think he wore a mustache, but they later painted on
the full beard just to make him look 'artsy'. Take away the full beard,
leave Christ with just a mustache, and what do you have? Eric Rudolph!
Tommy Joe
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/23/03 2:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <BBBD16E6.12C44%jo...@bellsouth.net>
Actually in a nicely condenced way that is the history of man.
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/23/03 2:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <BBBD1B5E.12C48%jo...@bellsouth.net>
Fuckin A! You hit the nail right in the palm of the hand! Didn't you tell me
once that you got kicked out of the Comedy Store for doing a bit about Jesus
giving head?
I'd love to hear it. Seriously. I bet Chafey would to;)
LeifSkyving
>Message-id: <BBBD1ACB.12C47%jo...@bellsouth.net>
Intersting. I happen to have a whole collection of pictures of dicks with
little mustaches painted on them, and they all look very gay.
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
Tommy Joseph
> From: leifs...@aol.com (LeifSkyving)
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: alt.comedy.standup
> Date: 23 Oct 2003 17:12:03 GMT
I kind of knew that. Thanks, dude.
Tommy Joe
Tommy Joseph
My favorite dick is the 'snob dick'. It has a goatee, which is worn
across the balls. A loose chain dangles from the nuts and then loops up
with a monocle on the end which is snugly fit between the war-head and shaft
of the dick. Very professorial. You can even put a little mortar-board on
the war-head. So, that's the final picture of the 'snob dick'. A monocle
stuck between the war-head and shaft, a mortar board (or a beret) on the
war-head, and a chain hanging off the monocle down to the balls, which are
coated with a neatly trimmed goatee, ala Chafey Barbeau. Right next to the
snob dick is a steaming cup of gourment coffee and a book by a famous and
somewhat obscure poet or essayist.
Tommy Joe
LeifSkyving
>Message-id: <BBBDC3FC.12CBD%jo...@bellsouth.net>
I knew you knew that. I just wanted you to know that I knew it too. You're
welcome.
LeifSkyving
>Message-id: <BBBDC593.12CBE%jo...@bellsouth.net>
Hmmm yes....I can see it....very.....Chafeyesque.
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
Jeffy and Momma Leify,
think, STEPHEN (BLOODY!!) KING, is an,
"obscyour psuedoe-inteleckyoual-awther,
thatt onlee snobbee goetead-beetnick
peepulls, preetenned tooh
reed inn psoodoh-hypp
cougheey shawppes,
whyle trieen tooh
pikk upp dee
wimenz".
HELLO!?!?
IN FACT--: The only
book-and-author that ISN'T bloody
OBSCURE to _*YOU*_ 3 severely dim
bulbed, A.D.D.-afflicted fruity fluff poofy
puffs, is, Rich Hall and his
literary "triumph"--:
'Sniglets'.
Tommy Joseph
> HELLO!?!?
I am perhaps more ADD-afflicted than you might imagine, because there
does not exist on this planet a single book that I could possibly read from
cover to cover, although I can manage at times to read interesting articles
out of magazines, such as those detailing the deaths of famous people and
the public displays of sorrow from their adoring fans. A short article on
the final moments of your life would make for an enjoyable read as well.
Actually, I have self-anyalyzed myself and have determined that I am not
ADD-afflicted at all, and in fact have come to believe that there is no such
thing as ADD - period! Just another phony affliction to keep psychiatrists
in business. People don't have ADD - they are merely bored - and with very
good reason. There are simply not enough original ideas presented in
interesting or entertaining fashion to keep most intelligent people riveted.
As far as 'modern art' is concerned - a real modern-artist is a guy
with a hatchet who rampages through the Museum of Modern Art slashing apart
the famous paintings of famous 'modern artists' while a crowd of astonished
gallery-strollers gasp in horror to see the gloried canvasses reduced to
rubble which should then be scooped up with a shovel and wheeled across the
street to the Museum of Ancient History where it really belongs.
The Zapruder film of Kennedy getting his head blown away in Dallas was
more artistic than anything hanging in The Museum of Modern Art. Same goes
for that plane going through the WTC two years ago. That was more artistic
in a very modern way than anything Picasso or Dali ever did. Artists suck -
all of them - especially 'modern artists'. They've had their day. Get
those fuckers out of the Museum of Modern Art - and into the Museum of
Ancient History - where they belong. Better still, blast all the museums of
our planet into dust and let them drift into the earth where the calm
curator of all things dead awaits them with open arms.
Tommy Joe ("Here's an Interesting Piece")
Father Luke
In a surprise announcement today, Leif Skyving declared he had
everyone killfiled and is now only responding to Tommy Joe.
In other news, Shantz has Thanksgiving booked.
Father Luke
Doug Doane
"Father Luke" <A_Small_Town_Comic_@_Peace.Baby> wrote in message
news:efvhpvs8mivd8qp33...@4ax.com...
I'm coming damn close to killfiling Leif because he is the ONLY one
responding to Tommy Joe.
--
Doug Doane
steve
>I'm coming damn close to killfiling Leif because he is the ONLY one
>responding to Tommy Joe.
Hey, don't say that around Louis CK or he'll acccuse you of being me...
steve gelder
http://www.stevegelder.com
The FAQ for alt.comedy.standup is currently located at:
http://members.aol.com/comedyfaq/faq.html
SUZY SORO
to Tommy Joe<
Look harder.
Suzy Soro
To my knowledge, Leif who?
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/24/03 3:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <efvhpvs8mivd8qp33...@4ax.com>
oooops missed one: PLONK!
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/24/03 6:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <jS9mb.207$X22...@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>
Shit! Missed another one! PLONK!!
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/24/03 10:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20031024132317...@mb-m29.aol.com>
Fuck Fuck Fuck
To my knowledge, PLONK!
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/24/03 12:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <BBBE4BE7.12CDF%jo...@bellsouth.net>
That was actually a nice piece of modern art literature....
Now, here is an excerpt from my upcoming book: Chafey, the last moments....
Chafey sat transfixed before his glowing monitor, typing at a furious pace, as
if his fingers were actively racing his demons: "The fingers must win" he
muttered, "must…win, tee hee hee". His mood was tense yet strangely joyous.
Gleeful at having dreamed up yet another name to bait his imagined adversaries:
"Father Fluke, heh heh, almost as good as Momma Leifey" he stated out loud, as
his fingers, nails bitten down to the searing flesh, flew across the keyboard.
"This will show them"! Suddenly, as if he just remembered he'd left the water
running, and was hundreds of miles from home, he bolted upright, his lurching
attack now a thing of the past. Overcome by panic, and a wave of emotion that
can only comes from a broken heart that will not heal: " TECKLA WATTS! MY GOD!
Whatever happened to her?! Oh, Teckla! You were black, so beautiful,
intelligent, and sensuous…." His eyes far off, fingers hovering over the now
static keys; Somewhere behind the reverie of the fresh vibrant college student
he had once dated, was the dull gnawing realization that it was all made up;
Teckla, the Australian girl, the oriental girl, all the girls, the radio
show…
Again resolute, his fingers pounced, spraying words ever faster; a testament to
his unwillingness to confront the insane undertone of persistent doubt.
**Sheesh's** and tee hee hee's filled the screen. "Fuck them! Fuck them all":
Nervously he sucked on his Marlboro "red", "only three left" he noted. "The
radio show, I've got a radio show to do…"
To be continued
Russ Nagel
"LeifSkyving" <leifs...@aol.com> wrote
> To be continued
Please don't.
I'm begging you. Let the trolls go away.
Russ
SUZY SORO
Russ, there are some people in here who want to talk to them. I guess because
any day now the trolls are going to say, "Oh my GOD, I was wrong and I'm a
dick! I had nothing to contribute! I'll go away now!".
It's useless. We've lost so many great people who used to post here. Dicky and
Mitchell and Alfano and even McGrew!! And yet people continue to talk to the
ONLY reason some comics have gone away. Just killfile anyone who talks to them.
It's honestly a lot easier.
Suzy Soro
To my knowledge, and you don't miss anything at all.
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/25/03 3:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <uCCmb.2249$Px2...@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>
They won't Russ, you know that.
Tommy Joseph
How do you know that Chafey smokes Marlboro reds? Is it because this was
the favored brand of Eric Rudolph? Is it because The Marlboro Man (before
he died), wore a mustache? And who the fuck is Teckla Watts?
Tommy Joe
> muttered, "mustŠwin, tee hee hee". His mood was tense yet strangely joyous.
> Gleeful at having dreamed up yet another name to bait his imagined
> adversaries:
> "Father Fluke, heh heh, almost as good as Momma Leifey" he stated out loud, as
> his fingers, nails bitten down to the searing flesh, flew across the keyboard.
> "This will show them"! Suddenly, as if he just remembered he'd left the water
> running, and was hundreds of miles from home, he bolted upright, his lurching
> attack now a thing of the past. Overcome by panic, and a wave of emotion that
> can only comes from a broken heart that will not heal: " TECKLA WATTS! MY GOD!
> Whatever happened to her?! Oh, Teckla! You were black, so beautiful,
> intelligent, and sensuousŠ." His eyes far off, fingers hovering over the now
> static keys; Somewhere behind the reverie of the fresh vibrant college student
> he had once dated, was the dull gnawing realization that it was all made up;
> Teckla, the Australian girl, the oriental girl, all the girls, the radio
> showŠ
> Again resolute, his fingers pounced, spraying words ever faster; a testament
> to
> his unwillingness to confront the insane undertone of persistent doubt.
> **Sheesh's** and tee hee hee's filled the screen. "Fuck them! Fuck them
> all":
> Nervously he sucked on his Marlboro "red", "only three left" he noted. "The
> radio show, I've got a radio show to doŠ"
Tommy Joseph
> From: "Russ Nagel" <russ...@earthlink.NOT>
> Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net
> Newsgroups: alt.comedy.standup
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:15:54 GMT
> Subject: Re: Bible banned in Canada
>
>
Take a hike.
Tommy Joe
Tommy Joseph
> From: suzy...@aol.comedy (SUZY SORO)
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: alt.comedy.standup
> Date: 26 Oct 2003 00:50:09 GMT
> Subject: Re: Bible banned in Canada
>
People who call themselves 'real' comics come onto this newsgroup and
constantly wonder why the state of comedy is so mediocre. They assume that
anyone who who actually makes an effort to do comedy is somehow 'the real
deal'. You assume you are 'the real deal' - but you are not. You are not
funny. I have never seen you on stage, but I don't have to. I know just
from your attitude that you are not funny, nor do you have the originality
and open-mindedness required to be funny. You are a crafts-person, a
student, a business person - but you are not a comic. You are also a lousy
judge of who and who is not a comic. Surely you have it in your power to
seek out and communicate with these departed Gods of Comedy you mention
above, and whether or not they continue to post into this newsgroup should
have no bearing whatever on their rank (or your own) in the world of comedy.
Frankly, your attitude makes me sick.
Tommy Joe
Tommy Joseph
>> I'm begging you. Let the trolls go away.
>>
>> Russ
>
> They won't Russ, you know that.
>
> Leif Skyving
> world's funniest man
> http://www.funnyswede.com
Not only will they not go away. If they do go away, so too does
anything remotely resembling comedy disappear from this newsgroup. Most of
the 'trolls' in this newsgroup are far more entertaining than the so-called
comics who post here. Oh, I know, the comics save their real humor for the
stage. Well, good for them. That's as it should be. I can't imagine how
Richard Pryor and Bill Cosby and George Carlin and the other "Gods of
Comedy" ever made a name for themselves without a newsgroup to post into. I
do not defend the right of the 'trolls' to post into this newsgroup, because
in fact this is their newsgroup. I want to know why working comics insist
on posting into a newsgroup they deem beneath their standards. To these
complaining comics I say: Hit the stage with the other has-beens and shut
the hell up.
Tommy Joe
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
You are saying a bunch of
'DICKS' ran off a 'DICKY'....!?!?
HUH....!?!?
........Lady, I've read YOUR posts,
and you are excruciatingly-pretentious and
B-O-R-I-N-G. And you are terribly snobby, and for no good reason,
either....
What?........So
you have a little credit for appearing on,
'Curb Your Enthusiasm', that's great,
I love Larry David.
But sorry, Suzi, I just don't like YOU!! You bore
me, SUZY SORO BORO BABY!! Really,
YOU BLOODY BORE ME!!
In a major kind of way.
I think you are full of utterly
annoying shit.
You say some of the most predictable
pap Usenet crap, I have ever read.
You think putting the word, "knowledge"
in your sig line, every time, will somehow
make you seem smarter, don't you!?
It doesn't.
I realize you are upset that more people
don't read-an-then-respond to your "riveting"
monthly accounts of the whereabouts
of your father's ash remains, but, I'm
sorry lady, people are weirded-out
when creepy, pretentious chicks
start rambling about their
"larger-than-life" dead
daddies, and his
"glorious" ash
remains.
Lady--: His ashes weren't any more
"glorious" than any other father's
"ashes".
Listen, honey....You ain't so special....I keep my father's "glorious"
ashes by _*MY*_
side, too.
He's not dead, mind you, he just smokes a lot, when he visits. And I'm a
terrible housekeeper.
I don't even have an ashtray for him. He uses
a half-empty pop can.
Anyways, Suzy, I thought it was rude when
you actually said the full name of one of your father's mistresses on
here (that you had
discovered in some of his intimate PRIVATE
letters, he had in a shoebox).
Did you get permission to do that from her (if she's still alive) or
from her family!? I thought
that was a bit creepy to do. I've
always wanted to tell you that.
But, back to this whole way-tired-an-dated
"troll" talk. Puh-Lease!! No one "drove" anybody, away.
That is such utter Usenet bizarro-world-nonsense. You don't "go away"
and "come back"....You just "post" or you don't.
Let's repeat that for your dim bulb, Suzi Soro Boro head--: People
either "post", or they
don't.
But, 'anywho', someone
who willingly goes by the name
'Dicky Palmer', deserves some kind
of flack, I'm thinking....Don't you bloody think, Ms. Soro Boro....!?
Sheesh.
(--Hee Hee--)
I've read some of Little Dicky's posts. And let
me tell you...He WOULD have gotten
some bitingly-humorous
flack from me.
So maybe the little
creepy sissy was
wise to run away.
Sorry, if 'Little Dicky' got scared-away, Suzy.
I know you're sensitive about those things,
since the same thing happens with
all-of-your boyfriends--:
They see you naked, in full
daylight, and, again-an-again,
yet another 'Little Dicky'
gets scared away.
No doubt, hiding in their 'Little Dicky'
scrotums, until you and your daddy's
ashes leave their apartments....FOR GOOD!!!!
I'm now picturing you looking like
a female, Bill Bixby, at the end
of each episode of 'The Incredible Hulk',
with the sad piano music playing,
as you hitch-hike on another lonely
highway, once again, carrying nothing
but your daddy's ashes in hand,
as you wipe a, 'proud of your
daddy' tear, from your eye....as
you cluelessly-wonder why every
single man, you meet, ends-up
kicking you-an-your
ASHole-Daddy-out,
right-back-smack-onto
the cold-an-lonely
curb....which, surely,
'curbs your enthusiasm'.
Perhaps, that's why you long for
the good-ol-ACS-days of 'Little Dicky'
and the other scaredy-cat-pussy-ass
dweebs, that you say got "run-off"
by the bad-bad "trolls".
Get a clue, honey. You are delusional.
If anyone is such a wimp,
that they stop posting because of
this-person-or-that-troll-or-WHOMEVER....if they are THAT weak, then,
they aren't worth
reading. Period.
You are just spouting-off WAY-HACK USENET
PAP CRAP!! Just like your pretentious use
of the word, "killfile". That is so bloody lame.
No one believes you won't be reading this post.
Only about 1% out of 100% percent of readers, actually, "killfile". It
is human nature to want to read-an-see, everything-you-possibly-can,
that everyone-else-reads-an-sees.
EXAMPLE--:
If someone has the choice to buy
the censored version of 'Killing Me Softly'
(with the way-hot-an-naked Heather Graham)
on DVD, or the 'Unrated' version, how
many total DWEEBS would "run away"
from the scary "Unrated" version, and
just be content with the wimpy "R"
version....!?
Another example--:
The excellent DVD 'Storytelling',
has the "censored" ("killfiled")
R-rated version AND the "Unrated"
version, on the very same
DVD.
So, I ask you, what pussy ass
man or woman would choose to only watch
the censored version!? When both
are there to see on the same DVD!?
Hardly anyone....
but, maybe, that goober boob,
'Book of Virtues'-Czar and crazed/obsessive-Gambler,
William Bennett, ....UNLESS...., he
he thought he could watch
it somehow, without being
caught.
By the way, Selma Blair is fucking hot, in that
movie ('Storytelling').
Day-amn!! Smoking HOT!! The scene that
was censored (with the excellent black
actor, Robert Wisdom) is a PIVOTAL scene. Thought-provoking AND
VERY-arousing.
The contrast of their skin tones, mixed with
their starkly different heights/frames/statures,
etc., made for one of the most interesting contrast-visuals I've seen in
a movie,
in recent times.
Selma looks so vulnerable standing next to Wisdom. The entire scene near
his bed, is
pure art.
But, anyway, the, censored (R-rated) version,
had a big digital red rectangle over the actors, (as he was doing her
from behind up-against the wall by his bed --they both were standing--)
and so, in the censored version, you only HEARD what they were
doing.
The scene couldn't have been cut
(it was a pivotal moment), so the
writer/director (the excellently
dark-an-sardonic, Todd Solondz),
chose, instead, to put the digitally-imposed-red-block/rectangle,
over the actors, to block-out the
visual of Selma getting it hard,
doggy style.
ANYWAY, BACK TO MY POINT--:
Usenet postings, where people
proclaim they are "killfiling"
are no more convincing,
than someone who tells
you that they would choose
the R-rated versions of those above
movies. THEY ARE LYING IF THEY
SAY THAT!! They are saying what they
think is the most "acceptable" thing to say
among the "regular IRREGULAR dweebs"
who frequent the newsgroup. Period.
So, anyways, how's your dad's ashes doing these days!?
I grew-up Catholic....So, I was just thinking,
it must be 'Ash Wednesday', EVERY Wednesday, at your place, huh!?
....But, seriously, I believe I recall, reading
that you finally got rid of your father's ashes, is that correct!? You
threw them overboard
at sea or something!? That's sweet.
Thanks for sharing. You are such a
"classy lady", with such wonderfully
"classy tales" to tell. I treasure every
word you type. You are the best.
Really. You are SO "classy-CLASSY", because
you "think" you are. Just think it,
and sure enough, YOU ARE!!
Just like that whole "knowledge"
dealy....you put that word--: "knowledge"
on your posty-post, and DAMN-IT!!
you ARE a "genius".
"Yes, my friends, Suzi is a 'classy genius',
and well-refined 'lady's lady of a lady',
who is slowly-but-surely coming to
terms with the loss of her gloriously-EXTRA-ESPECIALLY
_*SPECIAL*_ GREGARIOUSLY
_*GRAND*_ _*MASTER*_
DEAD ASHEN DADDY of all
DEAD ASHEN DADDIES....!!"
Brilliant!!
Utterly brilliant!! Superb.
And sweet. And did I mention,
"classy-CLASSY!!!!"....Classy.
Very.
Tommy Joseph
One of your best, Chafey. Very good. No need to go into the 'examples',
though, tossing the names of celebs around. You've got this broad pegged,
no need to toss examples around. Her and Doug Doane should get together and
cry each other to sleep every night. I can just imagine Dicky Palmer
getting ready to appear on the Jay Leno show and Leno says, "Wait a minute,
I hear you've been chased off the ACS newsgroup. Is this true?".........and
Palmer says, "Well, I wasn't chased off, I just couldn't take it anymore, so
I just decided to leave." And Leno says, "Well, anyone who doesn't post on
the ACS newsgroup aint no comic as far as I'm concerned", and Jay cancels
the gig. Then, Soro shows up and says, "But, Jay, you don't understand, the
trolls forced Dickey out of the group. They made him leave the group and
destroyed his comedy career." Oh, man, how great this newsgroup used to be
- way back when exactly?
Tommy Joe
steve
>>
>>Please don't.
>>
>>I'm begging you. Let the trolls go away.
>>
>>Russ
>
>They won't Russ, you know that.
How would anyone "know" that, if you refuse to try?
steve
> You are not
>funny. I have never seen you on stage, but I don't have to. I know just
>from your attitude that you are not funny, nor do you have the originality
>and open-mindedness required to be funny.
Tommy Joe,
Bitching about the killfile again, I see. Not enough of a man to see the
word and let it go.
Last post you get from me. You're an ass, you're incredibly unfunny, and
your shit jokes suck. Critique people all you want, but dig this: YOU couldn't
hack being a comic, and all you want to do is hang around comics and try to
impress them. You don't. You're an inconsistant (although prolific) writer,
but without content in your numerous posts, you're just a typist who glorifies
himself.
I don't wish you ill, but I wish you'd leave this group.
Goodbye.
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
Thanks.
Despite our very severe differences,
at times, EVEN SO, I am not being
facetious when I say, I appreciate
your sincere compliments.
And, by the way, the
movie reviews/examples portion
of my post, was just added to make
it a bit more quirky, but to, also, make
the points that I made.
But, I agree,
the rest of the post could have easily
stood alone, without that extra filler
stuff.
It's just that, I really like to
go off in a few different
directions, all-at-once,
at times.
Plus, I plan on talking about
those movies on one of my radio
shows, later this week.
I, quite literally, just
bought both of those 'unrated'
movies. Very cool-an-odd-an-sexy
DVD's. Both of them.
Tommy Joseph
> Tommy Joe,
>
> Bitching about the killfile again, I see. Not enough of a man to see the
> word and let it go.
>
> Last post you get from me. You're an ass, you're incredibly unfunny, and
> your shit jokes suck. Critique people all you want, but dig this: YOU
> couldn't
> hack being a comic, and all you want to do is hang around comics and try to
> impress them. You don't. You're an inconsistant (although prolific) writer,
> but without content in your numerous posts, you're just a typist who glorifies
> himself.
>
> I don't wish you ill, but I wish you'd leave this group.
> Goodbye.
> steve gelder
OK, Gelder, maybe you won't be reading this and if not that's just the
way it goes. Every time I make a comment on the stupidity of killfiling you
take it to me personally. It's all too obvious. I have been on stage many
times. I don't care if you think I am talented or not. I am an honest
person and I am telling you that I enjoy posting into this newsgroup. I
don't need your validation. I know what I can do and what I have done. My
comments regarding the pathetic remarks of the disgruntled losers who
complain about the outsiders who post into this newsgroup have merit and
that's good enough for me. You say my jokes suck, and that's funny, because
I don't tell jokes. I don't claim to be a comic, or a writer, or anything
for that matter. I post here because I enjoy doing so. You are right, I
can type a little bit, and I'm glad, because I hate writing by hand. I
don't have the patience for it. You sound pretty bitter, which is pathetic,
because you are still a relatively young guy. I can only imagine how
disgustingly hostile and depressed you will become as you get older. I have
no need to talk with you, just as you say you have no need to talk with me.
OK, then, fare thee fucking well.
Tommy Joe
Tommy Joseph
This is one of the most honest posts you have placed into this
newsgroup and I appreciate it. Thank you. Normally you find something in
my statements that you feel demands challenge of some sort, and this time
you took my words to heart. Good. I am glad. I enjoy a bit of banter as
much as you do, but I also am an honest person who hopes that his words will
on occasion be taken seriously. I enjoy posting into this newsgroup. When
I first came here I did so with original posts consisting of my own genuine
thoughts, with no intent to inflame (not that I can't enjoy a good argument
now and then)........I am glad to see that you acknowledge that the
additions to your post were not required, yet surely it is your right to say
whatever you feel in whatever manner you choose. I am a comic, a good one.
I have been on stage many times, although not for money. I don't really
like it - going on stage - especially night after night. I like certain
things about it, but there is something too contrived about it, something
too 'regulated' about it that keeps me from doing it full time. I still
consider myself a comic, which is one of the reasons I post here. The main
reason I post here is because I enjoy it. That's a good reason, as far as
I'm concerned. Every time I bitch about the 'killfile' crowd, somebody like
Steve Gelder comes in and makes a nasty comment about it. I'd like to say I
don't give a shit about those comments, but the truth is I do care about
them, because I like the truth, and I don't like being misrepresented by
people with agendas so alien to me that I have trouble comprehending them.
I will continue to post here and say what I feel like saying because that's
what I enjoy doing. Thanks for your commments.
tommy joe
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/26/2003 5:38 AM Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <16275-3F...@storefull-2191.public.lawson.webtv.net>
Parts of that I actually found funny. For the first time you made me laugh. I
guess, it's been worth the bleary eyes skimming your posts after all. I like
the part about your dad's ashes:) That was a lol, the other one I can't
remember now because as usual you went on way too long, but, I'm up because I
can't sleep, and that helped too.
Thanks Chafey
Oh, yea, I seem to remember something about Steve McGrew not being happy with
all the 'liberals' who are ruining
America posting here, not "trolls".
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/26/2003 8:57 AM Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <20031026105746...@mb-m22.aol.com>
>
>leifs...@aol.com (LeifSkyving) writes:
>
>>>
>>>Please don't.
>>>
>>>I'm begging you. Let the trolls go away.
>>>
>>>Russ
>>
>>They won't Russ, you know that.
>
>
> How would anyone "know" that, if you refuse to try?
>
>
>steve gelder
Well, then Steve, maybe you'd better give me a list of the posters I'm not
supposed to respond to so that we all will know exactly who is and is not
welcome? I post whenever I feel like it, if I'm doing it wrong, then for God's
sake post the rules so that we can all follow along. I just hope everyone will
agree with your list, otherwise we'll have to have everyone post their list of
who shouldn't be talked to, then, we'll have to elect some sort of jury to
decide which list has the most merit, and is the one that everyone should agree
on and follow.
Oh, and maybe you should do a "google" to make sure no one you have ever
responded to is on that list. That would be embarrassing --tee hee hee--
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/25/2003 11:16 PM Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <BBC0D0ED.12D57%jo...@bellsouth.net>
>
>
>How do you know that Chafey smokes Marlboro reds? Is it because this was
>the favored brand of Eric Rudolph? Is it because The Marlboro Man (before
>he died), wore a mustache?
Yes, and yes.
And who the fuck is Teckla Watts?
Go to "google.com" go to the alt.standup group, do a search in this "group
only" typing in the name Teckla Watts, and more will be revealed.
Leif
steve
>
lap...@aol.comity (steve)
>>
>>>They won't Russ, you know that.
>>
>>
>> How would anyone "know" that, if you refuse to try?
>>
>>
>>steve gelder
>
>Well, then Steve, maybe you'd better give me a list of the posters I'm not
>supposed to respond to so that we all will know exactly who is and is not
>welcome? I post whenever I feel like it, if I'm doing it wrong, then for
>God's
>sake post the rules so that we can all follow along. I just hope everyone
>will
>agree with your list, otherwise we'll have to have everyone post their list
>of
>who shouldn't be talked to, then, we'll have to elect some sort of jury
> to
>decide which list has the most merit, and is the one that everyone should
>agree
>on and follow.
>
>Oh, and maybe you should do a "google" to make sure no one you have ever
>responded to is on that list. That would be embarrassing --tee hee hee--
No, the question was, "How would anyone "know" that, if you refuse to try?"
Speaking in the realm of theorems and postulates, if you don't attempt an
action, you don't get a result, you have nothing to compare actions and results
with, and you can't form definitive statements of fact.
Oh, and I know you're smart enough to deduce most of the names on most of the
killfiles, so don't go all "Who should I killfile? For God's sake, post me the
rules!!" on me - people ask you nicely, consistently, constantly, not to stir
up the bottom of the pond because it makes the water murky, but you figure
you're having fun in the mud, so what of it?
Whatever. You just seem awfully defensive when you post many lines in
response to "how would you know..."
Have a good night, Sir. Hope all is well in your world.
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/27/2003 4:14 AM Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <20031027061417...@mb-m06.aol.com>
All is well in my world at the moment thank you sir. I hope all is well in
yours. I suppose what I meant with my defensive post was: How anyone know if
*you* if refuse to try?
A secondary point was: One mans trash is another mans treasure. Who are *you*
or your *buddies* to judge?
Leif Skyving
http://www.funnyswede.com
ray field
Steve, he doesn't exist. Or rather, he exists in the mind
of the funniest nitwit in the world or something. Whoever
is writing his crap for him deserves a hard smack upside the
head, or professional help, whichever comes soonest.
-ray
ray field
leifs...@aol.com (LeifSkyving) wrote:
....
>>
>> Have a good night, Sir. Hope all is well in your world.
>>
>>
>>steve gelder
>>http://www.stevegelder.com
>
>
>All is well in my world at the moment thank you sir. I hope all is well in
>yours. I suppose what I meant with my defensive post was: How anyone know if
>*you* if refuse to try?
>
>A secondary point was: One mans trash is another mans treasure. Who are *you*
>or your *buddies* to judge?
>
>Leif Skyving
>http://www.funnyswede.com
I won't speak for Steve, but -- when someone decides to post
messages under phony characters, basically he's enjoying
himself at everyone's expense. it's easy enough to say,
"just killfile them," except that this sort of cheap (and
rather idiotic imo) masturbatory fun tends to debase the
level of exchange.
assuming you can even get most everyone else to filter out
these imaginary characters, you still have newbies or legit
performers checking in here to find out about the art and
business of standup, and coming across vast endless self-
indulgent threads of pure made up shit that some nitwit
thinks is funny discourages them. not surprisingly, it has
the effect of encouraging other addled pissants to loiter
here.
there's a certain noise ratio that's unavoidable. amateurs
and loonies and usenuts are going to drop in and say
"doody!" every once in a while, what are you going to do?
but what I don't understand, and what pisses me off, is
people treating this place like it's their own personal
diaper. they may think it's art to invent their funny
little stick people but -- it's not art, it's just another
dull f*cking scam, we're not impressed, take it someplace
else. just because a lot of people do happen to be stupid
enough to fall for that shit doesn't mean it's worth doing.
christ, I used to enjoy j heneghen's stuff. and now he's
been chased off by a bunch of imaginary fuckwits. it would
be stupid to despise the imaginary fuckwit wouldn't it?
-ray field
www.ray-field.com/rayfield
steve
>How anyone know
>if
>*you* if refuse to try?
I am trying. You can see that if you look.
Have I always followed this advice? - no.
Am I trying something different to see what result I get? - yes.
>A secondary point was: One mans trash is another mans treasure. Who are
>*you*
>or your *buddies* to judge?
Comics.
LeifSkyving
>From: lap...@aol.comity (steve)
>Message-id: <20031027114045...@mb-m22.aol.com>
>
>leifs...@aol.com (LeifSkyving) writes:
>
>>How anyone know
>>if
>>*you* if refuse to try?
>
> I am trying. You can see that if you look.
>
I believe you Steve. You know I don't respond to every tom dick and harry
either, have you noticed? It's a matter personal choice though isn't it? Whom
we do or do not respond to? I'm sure if I look hard enough I'll find posters
on here that you respond to that I don't.....should I come on here and
"encourage" you not to, because I don't approve? That's not in my nature.
The late great Olof Palme, prime minister of Sweden once said: "tolerating
those we disagree with is the price of freedom". Maybe I'm too Swedish for you
and your circle of friends :)
> Have I always followed this advice? - no.
You like myself are honest. I respect that, so why can't you let it go? You
don't follow your own advice perfectly. You post when you "feel" like it. So
do I.
>
> Am I trying something different to see what result I get? - yes.
Good for you. So do I. We just don't happen to agree. I understand that both
Chafey and Tommy Joe have said some nasty things about you. I don't agree with
any of those statements, I think that they are just as unfair and unwarranted
as your statements about them, (except maybe for Chafey --tee hee hee--), I
have no problem however with you dissing them in return, or ignoring them in
return, the problem I have is when you expect others to do the same.
Do you ignore those whom I ignore?
>
>
>>A secondary point was: One mans trash is another mans treasure. Who are
>>*you*
>>or your *buddies* to judge?
>
> Comics.
Ahhhh why didn't you say so?! I am a "comic" does my view count? I guess
those who are "comics" and agree with my point of view, or have a view
differing from yours and your "comic" friends don't count?
>
>
>steve gelder
>http://www.stevegelder.com
Steve, am I wrong, didn't McGrew give the impression that he "left the group"
(several times) because "liberals" like you and me drove him crazy? Should we
stop posting, so that he might come back?
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/27/03 8:14 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <fRUn/Eai79b...@yahoo.com>
>
>In article <20031027101147...@mb-m07.aol.com>,
>leifs...@aol.com (LeifSkyving) wrote:
>
>....
>>>
>>> Have a good night, Sir. Hope all is well in your world.
>>>
>>>
>>>steve gelder
>>>http://www.stevegelder.com
>>
>>
>>All is well in my world at the moment thank you sir. I hope all is well in
>>yours. I suppose what I meant with my defensive post was: How anyone know
>if
>>*you* if refuse to try?
>>
>>A secondary point was: One mans trash is another mans treasure. Who are
>*you*
>>or your *buddies* to judge?
>>
>>Leif Skyving
>>http://www.funnyswede.com
>
>I won't speak for Steve, but -- when someone decides to post
>messages under phony characters, basically he's enjoying
>himself at everyone's expense. it's easy enough to say,
>"just killfile them," except that this sort of cheap (and
>rather idiotic imo) masturbatory fun tends to debase the
>level of exchange.
I agree with that. I with a few exceptions, I do not have exchanges with those
negative posts that have no name attached. For that very reason.
>
>assuming you can even get most everyone else to filter out
>these imaginary characters, you still have newbies or legit
>performers checking in here to find out about the art and
>business of standup, and coming across vast endless self-
>indulgent threads of pure made up shit that some nitwit
>thinks is funny discourages them.
Maybe. That's your *opinion*. You don't know which posts if any "discourage"
them. I personally feel that the smart aleck remarks, and cuts, and inside
"jokes" at the expense of a newcomer innocently asking a question about comedy,
by those who are "regulars" and post with their own names, do more to
discourage new people than anything else.
I cringe when I read these responses, and very often post something positive in
response the the newcomer in order to negate the insensitive self indulgant
crap from "comics". (many of whom btw, will also complain about the "trolls").
not surprisingly, it has
>the effect of encouraging other addled pissants to loiter
>here.
You know what I think encourages the "addled pissants to loiter"? Posts that
insult them, "flame" them. They *thrive* on the "battle". That is what they
are seeking. If I respond to a "troll" I try to do it in a *positive* way,
that is my contribution to discouraging the negativity.
Some people don't like that. They "hate" the trolls and would rather "flame"
them.
Once again, difference of opinion.
>
>there's a certain noise ratio that's unavoidable. amateurs
>and loonies and usenuts are going to drop in and say
>"doody!" every once in a while, what are you going to do?
>but what I don't understand, and what pisses me off, is
>people treating this place like it's their own personal
>diaper. they may think it's art to invent their funny
>little stick people but -- it's not art, it's just another
>dull f*cking scam, we're not impressed, take it someplace
>else.
Once again I agree for the most part. But this "we" you are talking about is
hardly *everyone* agreeing about *everything* and *everybody*. When I see
something I find creative or entertaining, I will recognize it as such. Crap
is crap. I ignore most of it.
just because a lot of people do happen to be stupid
>enough to fall for that shit doesn't mean it's worth doing.
Ok, you're entitled to your opinion. If I don't like a thread, I stop reading
it. But that's just me.
>
>christ, I used to enjoy j heneghen's stuff. and now he's
>been chased off by a bunch of imaginary fuckwits. it would
>be stupid to despise the imaginary fuckwit wouldn't it?
Yes, it would be stupid to despise the imaginary fuckwit. Now, exactly how do
you know Heneghan was "chased" off by a bunch of imaginary fuckwits? If he
was, he should probably lay off the hallucinagens.
>
>
>-ray field
>www.ray-field.com/rayfield
>
Thanks for your thoughts.
steve
>>>How anyone know
>>>if
>>>*you* if refuse to try?
>>
>> I am trying. You can see that if you look.
>>
>
>I believe you Steve. You know I don't respond to every tom dick and harry
>either, have you noticed?
No, just every Tommy Joe, Ollie and Chafey.
>It's a matter personal choice though isn't it?
> Whom
>we do or do not respond to?
Yes, it is.
>I'm sure if I look hard enough I'll find posters
>on here that you respond to that I don't.....should I come on here and
>"encourage" you not to, because I don't approve?
It's your right to do so, and yours to ignore if someone suggests it to you.
And I can't imagine there's anyone I respond to you don't, or wouldn't.
>Maybe I'm too Swedish
>for you
>and your circle of friends :)
Yeah, it's all about the Swede-bashing on my part.
>> Have I always followed this advice? - no.
>
>You like myself are honest. I respect that, so why can't you let it go?
I try. Occassionally, I see a post from someone who asks you to stop
posting to the same few idjits. I don't always chime in. But when you make a
statement like "they'll post anyway, even if I don't encourage them" when I
believe that to be incorrect, I think I'm allowed to state my opinion as well.
> You
>don't follow your own advice perfectly. You post when you "feel" like it.
> So
>do I.
And you "feel" like it almost EVERY time Chafey or Tommy Joe posts. Quoting
entire conversations between you and Chafey with the addition of the word
"SHEEESH" is pretty much a waste of time as far as I and others see, but knock
yourself out.
When was the last time you talked comedy in this comedy newsgroup?
>I understand that
>both
>Chafey and Tommy Joe have said some nasty things about you.
Doesn't matter. They can say whatever they like, reality is what's killing
me today.
My recent dismissal of Tommy Joe is based on yet another of his long rants
against someone who is talented and good at their craft because they suggest
his posts are without merit. He can't take criticism, so he dishes it out,
nastily, vehemently. You know him better than I ever will, so you know the
"likeable" qualities he may have - and I've seen him pass along some
interesting stories or thoughts from time to time, but not enough for me to
justify his over-posting or his nasty shit towards other comics, of which you
are one.
And over-posting is arbitrary, and there are no rules, and it's all a
judgement call, blah blah blah. I know.
>I
>have no problem however with you dissing them in return, or ignoring them
>in
>return, the problem I have is when you expect others to do the same.
>Do you ignore those whom I ignore?
Name one poster you don't respond to, and I could tell you, but I don't
think you ignore anyone.
>>>A secondary point was: One mans trash is another mans treasure. Who
>are
>>>*you*
>>>or your *buddies* to judge?
>>
>> Comics.
>
>Ahhhh why didn't you say so?! I am a "comic" does my view count? I guess
>those who are "comics" and agree with my point of view, or have a view
>differing from yours and your "comic" friends don't count?
No, but if we could turn it into an idea of majority rule, you lose. The
only reason it doesn't matter on this particular Usenet group is because we're
unmoderated. I've been approached in the past about being the moderator for
the group, meaning I would have final say over every post. I refused, because
I don't want to be a censor.
Again, I was just responding originally to your statement that the posters
in question "wouldn't go away" with the question "how do you know?" You still
haven't answered that, and have instead shot darts all around the bullseye.
>Steve, am I wrong, didn't McGrew give the impression that he "left the group"
>(several times) because "liberals" like you and me drove him crazy? Should
>we
>stop posting, so that he might come back?
I don't know if that was his reason or not - he may have followed the advice
of his comic friends who told him he was hurting his reputation with his posts
in here.
So, it looks like McGrew was smarter than you all along, just as he claimed.
;^)
steve
>Now, exactly
>how do
>you know Heneghan was "chased" off by a bunch of imaginary fuckwits? If
>he
>was, he should probably lay off the hallucinagens.
Unnecessary, and a little nasty, Leif. Heneghen didn't say anything to you,
you're responding to Ray.
You choose to talk to Chafey, but insult good comics? Nice call.
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/27/03 11:31 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <20031027143112...@mb-m19.aol.com>
>
>leifs...@aol.com (LeifSkyving) writes:
>
>>Now, exactly
>>how do
>>you know Heneghan was "chased" off by a bunch of imaginary fuckwits? If
>>he
>>was, he should probably lay off the hallucinagens.
>
>
> Unnecessary, and a little nasty, Leif. Heneghen didn't say anything to
>you,
>you're responding to Ray.
>
> You choose to talk to Chafey, but insult good comics? Nice call.
>
>
>
>steve gelder
>http://www.stevegelder.com
>
You're a comic and you have no sense of humor? I was joking. I know Heneghan.
I was making a point that you ignored. People are so quick to assume that if
someone doesn't post for a while it's because of whatever their little pet
peeve is. Lighten up. I also joke and insult trolls, if I think it's funny.
I'm a comedian remember?
Tommy Joseph
>>> You are not
>>> funny. I have never seen you on stage, but I don't have to. I know just
>>> from your attitude that you are not funny, nor do you have the originality
>>> and open-mindedness required to be funny.
>>
>>
>> Tommy Joe,
>>
>> Bitching about the killfile again, I see. Not enough of a man to see the
>> word and let it go.
>>
>> Last post you get from me. You're an ass, you're incredibly unfunny, and
>> your shit jokes suck. Critique people all you want, but dig this: YOU
>> couldn't
>> hack being a comic, and all you want to do is hang around comics and try to
>> impress them. You don't. You're an inconsistant (although prolific) writer,
>> but without content in your numerous posts, you're just a typist who
>> glorifies
>> himself.
>> I don't wish you ill, but I wish you'd leave this group.
>> Goodbye.
>> steve gelder
> Steve, he doesn't exist. Or rather, he exists in the mind
> of the funniest nitwit in the world or something. Whoever
> is writing his crap for him deserves a hard smack upside the
> head, or professional help, whichever comes soonest.
>
> -ray
>
I do exist, Ray, and the crap I write is my own, so I'm the guy who
deserves the smack upside the head. Anytime you're ready.
Tommy Joe
LeifSkyving
>From: lap...@aol.comity (steve)
>Message-id: <20031027142701...@mb-m19.aol.com>
>
>leifs...@aol.com (LeifSkyving) writes:
>
>>>>How anyone know
>>>>if
>>>>*you* if refuse to try?
>>>
>>> I am trying. You can see that if you look.
>>>
>>
>>I believe you Steve. You know I don't respond to every tom dick and harry
>>either, have you noticed?
>
> No, just every Tommy Joe, Ollie and Chafey.
>
That's true.
>
>>It's a matter personal choice though isn't it?
>> Whom
>>we do or do not respond to?
>
> Yes, it is.
We agree.
>
>
>>I'm sure if I look hard enough I'll find posters
>>on here that you respond to that I don't.....should I come on here and
>>"encourage" you not to, because I don't approve?
>
> It's your right to do so, and yours to ignore if someone suggests it to
>you.
> And I can't imagine there's anyone I respond to you don't, or wouldn't.
Of course you can't. Seeing it from your point of view.
>
>
>>Maybe I'm too Swedish
>>for you
>>and your circle of friends :)
>
> Yeah, it's all about the Swede-bashing on my part.
>
The smiley face meant I was joking.
>
>>> Have I always followed this advice? - no.
>>
>>You like myself are honest. I respect that, so why can't you let it go?
>
> I try. Occassionally, I see a post from someone who asks you to stop
>posting to the same few idjits. I don't always chime in. But when you make
>a
>statement like "they'll post anyway, even if I don't encourage them" when I
>believe that to be incorrect, I think I'm allowed to state my opinion as
>well.
Of course, and I'm allowed to respond to your opinion. As far as my statement;
that they'll post anyway, I sincerely believe that. What keeps a lot of these
people coming back, and coming back negatively is the "flaming" that some of
your "comics" engage in. A true "troll" by definition is looking for a fight.
>
>
>> You
>>don't follow your own advice perfectly. You post when you "feel" like it.
>> So
>>do I.
>
> And you "feel" like it almost EVERY time Chafey or Tommy Joe posts.
>Quoting
>entire conversations between you and Chafey with the addition of the word
>"SHEEESH" is pretty much a waste of time as far as I and others see, but
>knock
>yourself out.
Ok, maybe I thought it was funny and you and others don't. Just skip the
thread. There are plenty of inane posts on here by "comics" and others who use
their real names, that I simply skip past, along with plenty of trolls I simply
skip past. Really it's not that hard.
>
> When was the last time you talked comedy in this comedy newsgroup?
I think discussing freedom of expression, is related to stand-up as an art
form. So, were are discussing it right now. I get your point though.
>
>
>>I understand that
>>both
>>Chafey and Tommy Joe have said some nasty things about you.
>
> Doesn't matter. They can say whatever they like, reality is what's
>killing
>me today.
I'm truly sorry to hear that. Perhaps, it's affecting your sense of humor. I
don't mean that in a mean way, but you usually are able to take what I say with
a grain of salt and appreciate a smiley face meaning a joke was told.
>
> My recent dismissal of Tommy Joe is based on yet another of his long rants
>against someone who is talented and good at their craft because they suggest
>his posts are without merit. He can't take criticism, so he dishes it out,
>nastily, vehemently. You know him better than I ever will, so you know the
>"likeable" qualities he may have - and I've seen him pass along some
>interesting stories or thoughts from time to time, but not enough for me to
>justify his over-posting or his nasty shit towards other comics, of which you
>are one.
True, I don't agree with his lashing out, and I do know his likeable
qualities, and therefore over look a lot of the negativity. I also happen to
appreciate his story telling and sense of humor. There are also plenty of
other "comics" who lash out on this group, and I've been told more than once by
other working "comics" this is why they haven't stuck around this group.
We are not dealing with normal people, we are dealing with "comics".
>
> And over-posting is arbitrary, and there are no rules, and it's all a
>judgement call, blah blah blah. I know.
yup
>
>
>>I
>>have no problem however with you dissing them in return, or ignoring them
>>in
>>return, the problem I have is when you expect others to do the same.
>>Do you ignore those whom I ignore?
>
> Name one poster you don't respond to, and I could tell you, but I don't
>think you ignore anyone.
That may be true.
>
>
>>>>A secondary point was: One mans trash is another mans treasure. Who
>>are
>>>>*you*
>>>>or your *buddies* to judge?
>>>
>>> Comics.
>>
>>Ahhhh why didn't you say so?! I am a "comic" does my view count? I guess
>>those who are "comics" and agree with my point of view, or have a view
>>differing from yours and your "comic" friends don't count?
>
> No, but if we could turn it into an idea of majority rule, you lose. The
>only reason it doesn't matter on this particular Usenet group is because
>we're
>unmoderated. I've been approached in the past about being the moderator for
>the group, meaning I would have final say over every post. I refused,
>because
>I don't want to be a censor.
Majority rules? Maybe your right. Maybe you're wrong. Plenty of people lurk,
or choose not to be vocal on this issue. You are assuming an awful lot here.
Even if you were right, that it's a majority, so what? A majority of Americans
consider themselves Christian, should be ban all other religions?
>
> Again, I was just responding originally to your statement that the posters
>in question "wouldn't go away" with the question "how do you know?" You
>still
>haven't answered that, and have instead shot darts all around the bullseye.
My answer is that we don't know, and your idea of who should be shut out, and
mine are different.
>
>
>>Steve, am I wrong, didn't McGrew give the impression that he "left the
>group"
>>(several times) because "liberals" like you and me drove him crazy? Should
>>we
>>stop posting, so that he might come back?
>
> I don't know if that was his reason or not - he may have followed the
>advice
>of his comic friends who told him he was hurting his reputation with his
>posts
>in here.
>
> So, it looks like McGrew was smarter than you all along, just as he
>claimed.
> ;^)
>
>steve gelder
That may be.
Tommy Joseph
> No, the question was, "How would anyone "know" that, if you refuse to try?"
Speaking in the realm of theorems and postulates, if you don't attempt an
action, you don't get a result, you have nothing to compare actions and
results with, and you can't form definitive statements of fact.
> Oh, and I know you're smart enough to deduce most of the names on most of the
> killfiles, so don't go all "Who should I killfile? For God's sake, post me
> the
> rules!!" on me - people ask you nicely, consistently, constantly, not to stir
> up the bottom of the pond because it makes the water murky, but you figure
> you're having fun in the mud, so what of it?
>
> Whatever. You just seem awfully defensive when you post many lines in
> response to "how would you know..."
> Have a good night, Sir. Hope all is well in your world.
> steve gelder
Normally I don't speak for other people, but in this case I feel
qualified to do so, as I have seen Leif's comments on killfiling in the
past. All he ever said was he did not feel inclined to use the method,
preferring instead to skim through posts and threads and determine on the
spot what he might choose to read or not to read. He never told anyone else
that they should adopt his method. On the other hand, a host of others have
gotten on him about not using THEIR method, which in this case is the
'killfile' method. That's the difference, and it's a big one. I don't
recall hearing Leif ever suggest or demand that others follow his methods.
Calmly discussing and sharing your preferred methods for perusing this
newsgroup is a far cry from demanding that others adopt your methods (or
else). You seem like a logical guy (at times). Unfortunately,
rationalization and self-delusion can sometimes masquerade as logic. Your
argument sounds good because you put a lot of work into making it sound
good, a lot of work in the form of lying to yourself. In fact, you're so
good at lying to yourself that you don't have to practice lying to other
people.
Tommy Joe
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
wrong in so many numerous ways in his
failed attempt at a funny parody of me, that
it would take too long to go over all-of-his
severely-erroneous, severely-misinformed
"conclusions"....--:
So, I'll just
cover one of them, specifically--:
I don't smoke cigarettes nor do I smoke pot, etc. I just don't bloody
SMOKE.
Period.
The rest of his
lameness was, equally, pure fiction
which was based on nothing factual.
Good parody/humor is based
on some kind of reality, as a springboard.
Momma Leify did not follow that basic
rule. Plus his writing just sucked
in general.
Here's the Tantalizingly Tempestuous--:
Teckla Watts--: Featured in the linkily-linky-link (Just Below)--:
Tommy Joseph
>> A secondary point was: One mans trash is another mans treasure. Who are
>> *you*
>> or your *buddies* to judge?
> Comics.
> steve gelder
Ah, yes - "The Brotherhood of Comics". Well, just as the content of
comedy is subjective, so to (in my opinion), is the definition of 'comic'.
What is a comic? To me, anyone who makes me laugh is a comic. Sometimes
Chafey Barbeau (for example), makes me laugh, and the same goes for Ollie
Northie and a host of others. Because these people are not actively
pursuing a career in standup comedy or because they do not belong to the
exclusive fraternity of those who fit your personal definition of 'comic'
does not mean they are not comics, and certainly does not mean that they
don't have as much or even more talent at making people laugh than you will
ever possess. There are plenty of working comics who do not post here.
Maybe they're too busy doing what they love to do instead of talking about
it all the time. Maybe you should follow their lead. Might do you some
good.
Tommy Joe
Tommy Joseph
> My recent dismissal of Tommy Joe is based on yet another of his long rants
> against someone who is talented and good at their craft because they suggest
> his posts are without merit. He can't take criticism, so he dishes it out,
> nastily, vehemently.
> steve gelder
> http://www.stevegelder.com
Let me get one thing straight with you and you can take it or leave it
as you choose. Originally I posted into this group mainly with original
posts, directed at no one in particular. Few of my posts were 'exchanges'.
I never set out to 'inflame' anyone, and I still don't, even if you see it
otherwise. I don't even enjoy arguing, and find doing so by way of the
written word to be especially stressful. You mention my long 'rant' against
someone you admire and respect because they said something about me I didn't
appreciate or 'couldn't handle'. I don't know who you're talking about, but
I won't deny it because it's probably true. It's also true, in your own
words, that this person suggested my posts are without merit. So, who
started that one? Certainly not me. I should not have to defend myself
against you, but I feel the need to do so because I'm an honest person and I
don't like being misrepresented. There are some on this newsgroup who enjoy
arguing. I can be drawn into arguments on occasion, but my main purpose in
posting here is to entertain, even if it's only myself, although I know for
a fact that certain others who post here are entertained by my posts as
well, as I have received e-mails from them telling me so. You have now
formed an opinion of me and my purpose and there appears to be nothing I can
do to alter that image. These lengthy threads (of which you are a major
player) involving discussion of who should or should not be killfiled have
no more merit than my posts to which your respected comic friend alludes.
You ask Leif when was the last time he discussed comedy in here, but I've
seen plenty of posts from you that do not directly involve comedy - and this
thread, which contains many of those posts, is a good example of it.
Tommy Joe
Tommy Joseph
> Good for you. So do I. We just don't happen to agree. I understand that
> both Chafey and Tommy Joe have said some nasty things about you.
> Leif Skyving
> world's funniest man
> http://www.funnyswede.com
Leif, I believe you can go into Google and search all the back to when I
first began posting in here and if you do so you will find the very first
'nasty' words between Gelder and myself were made not by me, but by Gelder.
He attacked my posts, told me I wasn't funny, that my writing 'sucked'.
Fine, that's his opinion. But, I'm a sensitive guy and he might even be
correct when he says I have trouble dealing with criticism. However,
telling someone their writing sucks doesn't sound like 'criticism'. It
sounds more like an attack. Yes, I have said nasty things about Gelder (and
others), but I never started it - NEVER - and also, if you look hard enough,
you will also find that I never say anything negative or discouraging to new
people who post into this group looking for advice. Most of the people who
take that route are in fact 'comics'. I hesitate to offer any of these new
posters advice because, as a non-working comic, I feel that I might not be
considered 'qualified' to offer any advice, but I also don't put these
people down or do anything to discourage them. For anyone to suggest
otherwise is a blatant lie, one told so often that it has somehow become
'the truth'. This is disgusting and malicious. I can be provocative,
disturbing, overbearing, annoying, obnoxious (and that's just a start), but
I am not malicious and do not appreciate being portrayed as such, and I am
not saying you have portrayed me as such, nor do I suggest you attempt to
reverse this portrayal by sticking up for me, because I don't care anymore
what these people think, as they are going to think what they want to think,
but for your own edification I suggest you go into the archives and see for
yourself that what I am saying is true. I will try to make this my final
post on this matter (although I have tried and failed at many things).....
Tommy Joe
Tommy Joseph
> leifs...@aol.com (LeifSkyving) writes:
>
>> Now, exactly
>> how do
>> you know Heneghan was "chased" off by a bunch of imaginary fuckwits? If
>> he
>> was, he should probably lay off the hallucinagens.
>
>
> Unnecessary, and a little nasty, Leif. Heneghen didn't say anything to you,
> you're responding to Ray.
>
> You choose to talk to Chafey, but insult good comics? Nice call.
>
>
>
> steve gelder
> http://www.stevegelder.com
Boy, you sure are correct when you say comedy is subjective. You see
Leif's comment about Heneghen as an insult. I see it as a mild joke, and
even a compliment of sorts. Seems that more than just comedy is subjective.
Tommy Joe
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
time I made you laugh, then your
doctor must have FINALLY gotten
your anti-psychotic//anti-A.D.D.
medication dosages
*semi-reasonably*
--*correct*--.
So, I'd just stick to whatever dosage
you were taking when you read
my 'Soro Boro' post.
Seriously-though, I will, not so
humbly say, that, a healthy
majority of _*MY*_ posts are highly-entertaining
and/or out-an-out funny and/or scintillatingly provocative and
thought-provoking.
Period.
And I am quite sure that, even as
mentally-messed-up as you, surely, are,
Mr. Momma Leify Shirley, I am SURE,
that you have been entertained and
tickled by more than just ONE of
my posts. I am sure you have
"LAUGHED" at more than just
my highly-amusing 'Soro Boro
and Her Ever-Gregarious
Dead Ashen Daddy'
postily-posty-post.
In fact, I --*know*-- you have.
Because you've responded
with a "Laughing-Out-Loud"
and/or "That was funny."
previously. HELLO!?
And, quite-seriously, Mr. Leify, I
make a decent living in local radio as a
commentator/comic/pundit/personality.
And my local/regional radio shows
are strikingly --*similar*--....to that
healthy --*majority*-- of my
highly-entertaining and
provocatively-original,
thought-provoking,
amusing Usenet
postings.
My shows (like my posty-posts) are ALWAYS
entertaining, and quite often provocatively
humorous _*AND*_ SERIOUS, or, at least, SEMI-SERIOUS, at the same
bloody time.
I think the BEST kind of REAL _*COMEDY*_
is based on SERIOUS and/or SEMI-SERIOUS
_*TRUTHS*_. And that is how I CONSISTENTLY approach
my radio shows _*AND*_
my Usenet postings.
Buh-Bye For Now.
Glad you enjoyed yet another of my highly-amusing posts. Thanks.
LeifSkyving
>Message-id: <9686-3F9...@storefull-2194.public.lawson.webtv.net>
You know what, the guys are right, I'm going to start ignoring you.
LeifSkyving
>> Steve, he doesn't exist. Or rather, he exists in the mind
>> of the funniest nitwit in the world or something. Whoever
>> is writing his crap for him deserves a hard smack upside the
>> head, or professional help, whichever comes soonest.
Funniest nitwit? Hmmm
I'll consider that. What's funny is that Steve used to tell people the same
thing you are now telling him. Tommy Joe is real, why is that so hard to
fathom?
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/27/2003 11:15 AM Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <BBC2CB0D.12DE7%jo...@bellsouth.net>
Actually I know you well enough to know that you don't start the attacks. You
do attack people's who don't post here, people in general, and then I suppose
some other people in here feel like you are attacking them, because they happen
to respect the people you attack, or critisize. But I believe you are right,
as far as anyone posting in here, I don't know of an instance where you
*started* it. Also, I am 100% sure that you have never been insulting to a
newbie like so many of our "regulars" have, and I have said exactly that on
more than one occassion in here. You are right, people still believe what they
want to believe.
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
Tommy Joseph
> (snip snip the blah blah blah..)
> Glad you enjoyed yet another of my highly-amusing posts. Thanks.
> Yours (Bloody!!) Truly,
> Chafey
> AKA: David
> (c) 2003
Your final comment would have been good enough. I enjoy many of your
posts. Since Leif has said the same, maybe you should consider learning to
how to accept compliments, especially from those kind enough of to offer
them. Thanks.
Tommy Joe
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
to spend more time doing the joyous "craft" of stand-up that he "claims"
to love,
Tommy Joey.
Stevo's live comedy is as stiff and lifeless and bloody
predictable-an-pretentious as his unfunny posts --*here*--, are.
Gelded _*HAS*_ TRIED _*HARD*_ to be funny in his posts, many, MANY
times. He hasn't just "saved it for the stage". And, let me tell you, HE
SUCKS!! Period. Here AND on the stage and in his little circuitously
annoying newspaper
"column" of nothingness.
He might as well stay here, forever, pretending to "kilfile" people, and
urging others to do the same thing. It's all he's got.
By the way, most of the other
so-called "real comics"
on this newsgroup,
HAVE ALSO, "TRIED"
_*HARD*_ to be
funny in their
posts.
Most of them have failed as miserably
as GeldedStein has.
That whole--:
"I save it for the stage"
NONSENSE is
UTTER BULLSHIT!!
It is a total cop-out for their FAILURE to be even remotely funny or
entertaining. Period.
steve
>> And I can't imagine there's anyone I respond to you don't, or wouldn't.
>
>
>Of course you can't. Seeing it from your point of view.
When I said this, Leif, I meant it as a compliment to your acceptance of all
posters - I don't think you would have anyone in your killfile. Just because I
used the word "can't" doesn't mean it's a negative statement towards you.
>
>>
>>
>>>Maybe I'm too Swedish
>>>for you
>>>and your circle of friends :)
>>
>> Yeah, it's all about the Swede-bashing on my part.
>>
>
>The smiley face meant I was joking.
Sorry I didn't use an emoticon to indicate my joke in return. Please insert
8^), or whatever would make you feel better. ;^)
> As far as my statement;
> that they'll post anyway, I sincerely believe that. What keeps a lot of
>these
>people coming back, and coming back negatively is the "flaming" that some
>of
>your "comics" engage in. A true "troll" by definition is looking for a
>fight.
Really? I thought there were trolls who just went into newsgroups to be
destructive as well. And the trolls haven't been "flamed" in a while. You are
keeping a couple of them alive almost single-handed.
And as for not being negative with them - THEY are the negative force.
Someone says "Put 'em in your killfile" and Tommy Joe spends four paragraphs
telling them all their human failings and that they can fuck themselves in the
ass and die.
But, sure if we just did everything they wanted to and only responded to
them nicely while we allow them to run the roost, even though they aren't
comics, aren't discussing comedy or helping any comics in any way, it'd be a
peaceful group...for them.
And again, if you won't try, we'll never know. Your "belief" is, in my
"belief", off the mark.
>>Quoting
>>entire conversations between you and Chafey with the addition of the word
>>"SHEEESH" is pretty much a waste of time as far as I and others see, but
>>knock
>>yourself out.
>
>
>Ok, maybe I thought it was funny and you and others don't. Just skip the
>thread.
If you quote entire posts and only add one word, I don't get to the one word
response until I scroll through the whole thing. I could just skip over the
things you write, but I've been known to enjoy your posts from time to time, so
I prefer to give it a shot.
>There are plenty of inane posts on here by "comics" and others
>who use
>their real names, that I simply skip past, along with plenty of trolls I
>simply
>skip past. Really it's not that hard.
Because you're experienced with a) the Internet and b) this newsgroup. New
people have a hard time. People who entered the group at a certain point when
it was more useful have a hard time. People other than you have a hard time
and ask you nicely to help them out. It's your decision not to.
>>reality is what's
>>killing
>>me today.
>
>I'm truly sorry to hear that. Perhaps, it's affecting your sense of humor.
> I
>don't mean that in a mean way, but you usually are able to take what I say
>with
>a grain of salt and appreciate a smiley face meaning a joke was told.
And I responded with a joke, but because I forgot the smiley face, it was
lost in the shuffle. And it is affecting my sense of humor. And thanks for
your genuine compassion.
>> No, but if we could turn it into an idea of majority rule, you lose.
>
>
>Majority rules? Maybe your right. Maybe you're wrong. Plenty of people
>lurk,
>or choose not to be vocal on this issue. You are assuming an awful lot
>here.
>Even if you were right, that it's a majority, so what? A majority of
Americans
>consider themselves Christian, should be ban all other religions?
Yes, let's ban religion. That's exactly my point in this discussion.
Religion is the enemy.
Sure there's no majority? You call for a vote. I'd rather not.
>> Again, I was just responding originally to your statement that the posters
>>in question "wouldn't go away" with the question "how do you know?" You
>>still
>>haven't answered that, and have instead shot darts all around the bullseye.
>
>
>My answer is that we don't know, and your idea of who should be shut out,
>and
>mine are different.
That's still not really an answer to my question, and you did claim to know
what the outcome would be. You've made the statement clearly and
self-assuredly in the post prior to my entry in this train of thought.
Also, my idea of who should be shut out and yours might differ, but the
group's decision would be interesting to see, and I think I could guess where
they fall on this issue.
So, how do you know if you won't try? Answer: you can't. Therefore, I
don't think you should say to a good comic like Russ "they won't go away" when
you don't know it to be true because you will never try due to white Swedish
liberal guilt and the hunger that keeps you from excluding anyone who might be
packing Falukorv.
;^)
Thanks for the distraction.
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
to 'kilfile'...".
Alrighty....Carry On....Now--:
TYPO-CORRECTED/CLARIFIED/UPDATED
POSTY-POST (JUST BELOW)....--:
I don't think it would do GeldedStein any good to spend more time doing
the joyous "craft" of stand-up that he "claims" to love,
Tommy Joey.
Stevo's live comedy is as stiff and lifeless and bloody
predictable-an-pretentious as his unfunny posts, --*here*--, are.
Gelded _*HAS*_ TRIED _*HARD*_ to be funny in his posts, many, MANY
times. He hasn't just "saved it for the stage". And, let me tell you, HE
SUCKS!! Period. Here AND on the stage and in his little circuitously
annoying newspaper
"column" of nothingness.
He might as well stay here, forever, pretending to "killfile" people,
Tommy Joseph
> I don't think it would do GeldedStein any good
> to spend more time doing the joyous "craft" of stand-up that he "claims"
> to love, Tommy Joey.
> Gelded _*HAS*_ TRIED _*HARD*_ to be funny in his posts, many, MANY
> times. He hasn't just "saved it for the stage". And, let me tell you, HE
> SUCKS!! Period. Here AND on the stage and in his little circuitously
> annoying newspaper "column" of nothingness.
> Yours (Bloody!!) Truly,
> Chafey
> AKA: David
> (c) 2003
I will respond only to the two paragraphs I cut out of your post.
First, without ever having seen GeldedStein on stage, I am inclined to agree
with you that he is probably not very funny. That's just the feeling I
have.
Secondly, believe it or not, I usually give people the benefit of the
doubt. GeldedStein once came in here and proclaimed that I am not funny and
that my writing 'sucks'. I was not pleased with his remarks. Funny thing,
though, I never bothered to click on his link until just the other week, and
I went into his site and read three of four of his 'columns', and now am
even less pleased with his cutting remarks regarding my writing, because I
agree with you about his columns - that they are bland and pretentious and
forced and not at all funny or entertaining.
The thing of it is, I have checked out the columns and sites of many
comics in here and found many of them to be very unentertaining and unfunny
and uninteresting, yet never once did I post my negative feelings to any of
them. I never checked out a site and then came in here saying, "Man, your
site sucks." Why should I do that? The site sucks, so what? I don't have
to attack a guy for it. Yet, you are right. His column is a bore. I have,
however, actually visited a site or two of comics in here who write columns
and sent them e-mails in which I expressed to them positive feelings about
their writing.
I sometimes (often, in fact), question my own talents. When
GeldedStein told me my writing sucked, even though I didn't appreciate the
remark, I actually thought he might be right. Now, however, after seeing
his column and the contents of it, I'd have to say if this guy is a writer
than I am a great writer. It's hard to believe that a guy who pumps out
contrived blandness such as appears in his column would have the nerve to
publicly tell me that my writing sucks. Then again, maybe it's not so hard
to believe. Adios for now.
Tommy Joe
Tommy Joseph
> By the way, most of the other
> so-called "real comics"
> on this newsgroup,
> HAVE ALSO, "TRIED"
> _*HARD*_ to be
> funny in their
> posts.
> Most of them have failed as miserably
> as GeldedStein has.
> That whole--:
> "I save it for the stage"
> NONSENSE is
> UTTER BULLSHIT!!
> It is a total cop-out for their FAILURE to be even remotely funny or
> entertaining. Period.
> Yours (Bloody!!) Truly,
> Chafey
> AKA: David
> (c) 2003
No argument from me on that. Sometimes, just for perverted pleasure,
I'll check out a thread full of Baldwiny/Bronstein/Gelder/ and a few of
those Australian broads, and all they do is sling unfunny one-liners at each
other, usually pretentious literary type crap, puns and so forth, and you
are absolutely correct when you say they are trying to be funny in these
threads, and not succeeding, except in their own minds. Yet they blast
others who are actually funny for doing the same thing. These people are
truly bitter and resentful and negative and totally and pathetically lost.
What a bunch of frauds!
Tommy Joe
Ollie North
Steve Gelder exists. He exists wherever small minds and smaller penises exist.
Ollie
Semper "Stroking my gelder" Fi
LeifSkyving
>Date: 10/27/03 3:35 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <20031027183501...@mb-m24.aol.com>
>
>leifs...@aol.com (LeifSkyving) writes:
>
>
>>> And I can't imagine there's anyone I respond to you don't, or wouldn't.
>>
>>
>>Of course you can't. Seeing it from your point of view.
>
> When I said this, Leif, I meant it as a compliment to your acceptance of
>all
>posters - I don't think you would have anyone in your killfile. Just because
>I
>used the word "can't" doesn't mean it's a negative statement towards you.
Thank you Steve, I apologize for not giving you enough credit.
>>>>Maybe I'm too Swedish
>>>>for you
>>>>and your circle of friends :)
>>>
>>> Yeah, it's all about the Swede-bashing on my part.
>>>
>>
>>The smiley face meant I was joking.
>
> Sorry I didn't use an emoticon to indicate my joke in return. Please
>insert
>8^), or whatever would make you feel better. ;^)
I prefer :o) could you please use it in the future? It *would* make me feel
better. :o)
>
>
>
>> As far as my statement;
>> that they'll post anyway, I sincerely believe that. What keeps a lot of
>>these
>>people coming back, and coming back negatively is the "flaming" that some
>>of
>>your "comics" engage in. A true "troll" by definition is looking for a
>>fight.
>
> Really? I thought there were trolls who just went into newsgroups to be
>destructive as well.
Yes, but I haven't seen any of those types lately. They do seem to come and go
relatively quickly. I don't respond to those.
And the trolls haven't been "flamed" in a while.
Maybe you'e right. I have not kept up with more than one or two threads the
past two months. Usually ones involving Tommy Joe and Chafey.
You
>are
>keeping a couple of them alive almost single-handed.
Well, let's put your theory to the test. I have ignored Chafey in the past,
and I am tird of him, and have told him that I agree with you and will be
ignoring him in the future. I have not problem with that. Let's see if he
goes away. I am not inflexible.
As for Tommy Joe, I have a lot of respect for his friendship and writing
abiltiy and humor. Sorry. When he lashes out sometimes I cringe, but, I take
it with a grain of salt.
>
> And as for not being negative with them - THEY are the negative force.
>Someone says "Put 'em in your killfile" and Tommy Joe spends four paragraphs
>telling them all their human failings and that they can fuck themselves in
>the
>ass and die.
I don't know if that is a dircect quote, but I get your point. He admits that
he is sensitive and lashes out when critisized or attacked. I think he offers
plenty of funny positive posts as well. If you read them all I think you would
see that. Of course you don't have to. Just take my word for it.
>
> But, sure if we just did everything they wanted to and only responded to
>them nicely while we allow them to run the roost, even though they aren't
>comics, aren't discussing comedy or helping any comics in any way, it'd be a
>peaceful group...for them.
>
Yea, it's a tolerance level thing. Like I said, I don't respond to most
trolls. Right now I'm being singled out because I respond to Chafey (troll),
Ollie (super troll) and Tommy Joe (real person, real comedian, using his real
name). That's pretty much it. 2 trolls out of how many?
Ok, now we are down to one, and Tommy Joe. I'm reasonable.
> And again, if you won't try, we'll never know. Your "belief" is, in my
>"belief", off the mark.
Hey, you win, I told you I'd try. Give me it a break :o)
>
>
>>>Quoting
>>>entire conversations between you and Chafey with the addition of the word
>>>"SHEEESH" is pretty much a waste of time as far as I and others see, but
>>>knock
>>>yourself out.
>>
>>
>>Ok, maybe I thought it was funny and you and others don't. Just skip the
>>thread.
>
> If you quote entire posts and only add one word, I don't get to the one
>word
>response until I scroll through the whole thing. I could just skip over the
>things you write, but I've been known to enjoy your posts from time to time,
>so
>I prefer to give it a shot.
Thank you. I am convinced. I won't be doing that again. It was really meant
to annoy Chafey, not you or any one else.
That did not occur to me.
>
>
>>There are plenty of inane posts on here by "comics" and others
>>who use
>>their real names, that I simply skip past, along with plenty of trolls I
>>simply
>>skip past. Really it's not that hard.
>
> Because you're experienced with a) the Internet and b) this newsgroup.
>New
>people have a hard time. People who entered the group at a certain point
>when
>it was more useful have a hard time. People other than you have a hard time
>and ask you nicely to help them out. It's your decision not to.
GODDAMIT! Get off of it!!!!! I give! I told you!!!!! :o)
>
>
>
>>>reality is what's
>>>killing
>>>me today.
>>
>>I'm truly sorry to hear that. Perhaps, it's affecting your sense of humor.
>> I
>>don't mean that in a mean way, but you usually are able to take what I say
>>with
>>a grain of salt and appreciate a smiley face meaning a joke was told.
>
> And I responded with a joke, but because I forgot the smiley face, it was
>lost in the shuffle. And it is affecting my sense of humor. And thanks for
>your genuine compassion.
Seriously. I hope whatever it is turns around soon. Like I said I haven't
been following more than two or four threads in the last months, so I don't
know if you've been discussing something about your personal life that I am not
aware of.
>
>
>
>>> No, but if we could turn it into an idea of majority rule, you lose.
>>
>>
>>Majority rules? Maybe your right. Maybe you're wrong. Plenty of people
>>lurk,
>>or choose not to be vocal on this issue. You are assuming an awful lot
>>here.
>>Even if you were right, that it's a majority, so what? A majority of
>Americans
>>consider themselves Christian, should be ban all other religions?
>
> Yes, let's ban religion. That's exactly my point in this discussion.
>Religion is the enemy.
Again we agree :o)
>
> Sure there's no majority? You call for a vote. I'd rather not.
No I'm not sure. I said maybe you're right, maybe you're not. And no, I don't
want to call for a vote. I am against votes when it comes to freedom of
expression. Once you vote on who should be free and who shouldn't, you've
defeated the whole premise.
>
>
>>> Again, I was just responding originally to your statement that the
>posters
>>>in question "wouldn't go away" with the question "how do you know?" You
>>>still
>>>haven't answered that, and have instead shot darts all around the bullseye.
>>
>>
>>My answer is that we don't know, and your idea of who should be shut out,
>>and
>>mine are different.
>
> That's still not really an answer to my question, and you did claim to
>know
>what the outcome would be. You've made the statement clearly and
>self-assuredly in the post prior to my entry in this train of thought.
>
> Also, my idea of who should be shut out and yours might differ, but the
>group's decision would be interesting to see, and I think I could guess where
>they fall on this issue.
ok but who exactly is "the group"?
>
> So, how do you know if you won't try? Answer: you can't. Therefore, I
>don't think you should say to a good comic like Russ "they won't go away"
Ok, that was more or less a flip, spur of the moment spontaneous remark. I
wasn't really sure of what I meant myself. I said it because I thought it had
a nice transendental feel to it. Didn't mean it in any specific way. I was
riffing. Not serious. It was a mood, man. I hope Russ wasn't as hurt, as I
was when he dissed my prose.
>when
>you don't know it to be true because you will never try due to white Swedish
>liberal guilt and the hunger that keeps you from excluding anyone who might
>be
>packing Falukorv.
>
> ;^)
Now, I'm hungry. :o)
>
> Thanks for the distraction.
And I thank you.
Jeff Masterson
Man, Vegas smells like smoke tonight. Hey Sweed, how come you called
me fag? I thought we was going to keep that secret. And besides after
I hastily posted the thread, out of anger I might add, I found out the
original bible doesn't have any anti homosexual references and it was
injected in the king James version. Is that true? Any one? And the God
thing was not in the original pledge of allegance. WTF?
Tommy Joseph
>>>> Tommy Joe,
> I don't wish you ill, but I wish you'd leave this group.
>>>> steve gelder
>>> Steve, he doesn't exist. Or rather, he exists in the mind
>>> of the funniest nitwit in the world or something. Whoever
>>> is writing his crap for him deserves a hard smack upside the
>>> head, or professional help, whichever comes soonest.
>>> -ray
>> I do exist, Ray, and the crap I write is my own, so I'm the guy who
>> deserves the smack upside the head. Anytime you're ready.
>>
>> Tommy Joe
> Steve Gelder exists. He exists wherever small minds and smaller penises exist.
> Ollie - Semper "Stroking my gelder" Fi
Did your buddy Rush tell you this? If he knew Gelder, he must have met
him in an airport restroom, because Gelder is too classy to take a bus. As
for the small dicks you mention, Gelder is now living in L.A., and the dicks
out there are huge. I know a gay guy who is a native New Yorker who moved
to L.A., because, in his own lisping words - "It was so cold in New York
that all the penises had shriveled away to nothing. Whereas in Los Angeles
the heat of the warm California sun literally bakes the balls and causes the
meatus to swell to outlandish proportions." They've got some big dicks in
L.A.......... Maybe that's why Gelder moved there.
Tommy Joe
Tommy Joseph
> From: jeffma...@usa.com (Jeff Masterson)
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
> Newsgroups: alt.comedy.standup
> Date: 27 Oct 2003 21:30:25 -0800
> Subject: Re: Bible banned in Canada
>
I'm sick of the argument about the 'God thing' in the Pledge of
Allegiance. Why not just get rid of the Pledge of Allegiance and be done
with the whole argument? The vast majority of people reciting this stupid
oath are school kids who are just waiting for the bell to ring so they can
get the hell out of the class room. How many people get up in the morning
and recite the pledge on their own accord? Show me one and I'll see if I
can get him committed to a mental institution pronto. Should religion and
the State be separated? Absolutely not! I say put them together in a
weighted bag and toss them into the fucking ocean. As for Leif calling you
a fag, I know him personally and that's just his way of saying, "I love you,
man!"
Tommy Joe
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
Always trying to have it both ways, aren't you, dude, eh!?
Sorry dude, you just _*CAN'T*_ have
it both ways, you little weaselly
goober boob.
That last post to GeldedStein, proves
what a little pussy ass fake you are.
I just don't like you, dude. You'll have
to come to grips with that and stop
pouting. I think you are a two-faced
fake. And, you think you are NOT
a "troll" because you use your
name, eh!? I think you are
MORE a "troll" than
anyone here.
You're also a hack.
And I HAVE noticed you repeating
things that I have said in a post,
after you had clearly read the
post from ME, posted, well-before
YOU. And it went well-beyond just
repeating a generic phrase like
"Sheesh", and you bloody
well know it.
By the way, your gooberishly
mindless repeating of that "Sheesh" line,
only served to further prove my point that
you are as retardedly trollish and
dim and unoriginal as,
Vile Moss.
And you are as much
of a bloody _*STUPID*_ TROLL as
Vile Moss is/was.
Again, I loved it when
you did those redundantly
dumb DUMB one-word "SHEESH" postings.
It only served to further
prove my point about you.
And that is, that you are, a, pretty much,
talentless, writer and comedian. Not to
mention, way too hacky and unoriginal
for my tastes.
Oh, by the way, Momma Leify,
I still have one-or-two of
those old private e-mails
from you, saved on my Apple's
hard drive, where you are agreeing
with me, that Stevo's humor, is
way too uptight (and how that's
probably why he hasn't
progressed to anywhere
NEAR the 'big time', all of
these years), and how you
agreed with my comments
about him being too generally-stiff
and narrow-minded, but, that,
he was a co-working
semi-friend/acquaintance,
so you were uncomfortable
admitting that you agreed so
wholeheartedly,
--*publicly*--.
I guess, you can, publicly, agree with my
humorous comments about
'Soro Boro and Her
Ever-Gregarious
Dead Ashen Daddy',
but not my, equally,
humorous comments
about, Ben 'Visine'
Stevo GeldedStein,
huh!?
At least,
not so-wholeheartedly, and
so-publicly, right, dude!?
RIGHT!!
Do you remember those private back-an-forths, Leify!?
_*I*_ sure-as-blood-hell DO!!!
That's way-back when I
erroneously-an-naively
--*thought*-- you were
one of the "coolest"
people on-here.
My-my, how perspectives change.
Buh-Bye For Now, Momma Leify.
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
in the post I was responding to, Tommy
Joey.
He, rather, was pretending that
'Soro Boro' post-of-mine was, somehow,
JUST the "....very 'FIRST' time
I made him laugh....blah blah blah".
So my response
was quite appropriate for his utter
bullshit about that being the "FIRST"
time. Fuck that shit. Fuck his generally-fakey
two-faced shit crap lies. Period.
I don't like yo' momma, Momma Leify.
I think he is very two-faced and he
is the biggest TROLL of them all.
Whether he uses his "real" name
or not.
And he is too hacky, as well.
....I really don't "like" you, either,
as a human. I disagree, totally, with
your political-an-social views, as
conveyed to me, within your
most-unwise, most-controversial
postings.
I passionately disagree with so many
things you say and do....yet....I know
you have talent as a writer. ALMOST
as much talent for writing, as me (on
your good-an-SANE-an-kosher
days, that is).
I, also, think that you, really should get psychological help. I say
that, because
I think you are wasting-an-destroying
the talent you have for writing,
due to your SEVERE insecurities,
which, too often, cause you
to weirdly-lash-out at
successful Jewish people,
for instance, and, in general,
doctors and lawyers and comedians and women, and women comedians, etc.,
etc.
Also, you, often, come-across
embarrassingly childish and whining,
trying to get people like, GeldedStein,
to accept you, somehow. That is
annoying and very contradicting.
It's that annoying kiss-uppy
side of you. Which is the other
insecure, "extreme side", where you
seek, desperately, to be "accepted".
Which is why you cling so hard to
your two-faced, momma, Momma
Leify. Because he "accepts" you
as a "legit comedian". Whatever
that is worth to someone like you,
I don't know, exactly.
But I just don't think Leify, himself,
is a "legit comedian", personally.
I don't think he is funny, really.
He's not very original.
Actually, once again,
he's really quite hacky....
TOO HACKY....for my
tastes.
But, anyway, back to your INSANITIES--:
Also, I believe....your insanities....are what
cause you to not control what you type/say.
You say some things that should never
be typed, or said, or even bloody-hell-THOUGHT,
in my opinion.
Some of it, sounds clearly, illegal to me.
Certainly, unethical and unwise. Period.
Whether you claim to be "joking" or "semi-joking", way-AFTER-the-fact,
or not.
You, also, have a problem with anyone
who "succeeds" in life. That's a very
bad thing. Embrace other people's
successes and be happy for them.
They are not --*all*-- successful just because
of nepotism or because they are good at sucking-someone-off, etc.
Some are there because they are talented and
cool cats. Period.
Don't be hateful about our nation
and military, either. Start being PROUD
to be an American. America is the
greatest country.
And the men and women
who serve in the armed forces deserve
our support and prayers.
WESLEY CLARK FOR PRESIDENT--:
2004....!!!!
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
writing is incredibly weak --*nothingness*--.
His stuff doesn't even come close
to the level of "mild entertainment".
It is so blandly inconsequential that
it is truly sickening.
His writings are so utterly
meaningless and safe they seem truly
obscene to me.
GeldedStein's words are
so lifeless and dull and pointless
and stagnantly status quo,
that I see them as a clear
threat toward the free
world and humanity
itself.
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
hypocrisy.
They _*ALL*_ try to be funny.
Most of them, _*DO*_ _*NOT*_
just "save it for the stage".
........I laughed at your phrase, "....and a few of
them Australian broads....". Sometimes, the semi-unintentional lines
make me laugh
more.
Anyway, I couldn't agree more,
with your comments about their
goober-boob-one-liners and
puns.
Those are the AB-SO-LUTE
worst threads
to read.
I'd much rather read your annoying 'Mr. Shit' threads. And I DON'T EVEN
LIKE THOSE
'Mr. Shit' threads of yours, but, even so, they
are more interesting than that crappy stuff, like, for instance, when
they go back-an-forth, on
"misheard phrases". Do you know what I am
talking about, where they keep on, changing it slightly....!?
Dear GOD!!, that is the kind of stuff young grade schoolers do. It
reminds me of those, "finish this story//fill in the blank" game, etc.,
until you get an "oh so hi-lar-i-ous"
STORY out of it!!
_*NOT!!*_
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
were calling him a "peer" that you
might occasionally "work" with
in some fashion, on the road,
etc.
Jeff Masterson
> I'm sick of the argument about the 'God thing' in the Pledge of
> Allegiance.
>
Man you are so ahead of your time it's not even funny. You should get
frozen dude. Like just go get a freezer and lay down in it. Then you
could wake up in 100 years and everything would be swell. You could
have like dreams about Esti. Hey where is Esti, is she on that TV show
deal? Survior? Do they got her getting gang raped in prison? I heard
that was going to be one of their deals this time.
Hello! I Am Chafey Narquois Barbeau!
"Esti", is probably, once again,
speaking-up in annoyingly
obscure newsgroups
dealing with middle
east issues and/or,
"she", may be, perhaps,
spouting-off on the
'Dr. Laura' newsgroup.
Sheesh.
Talk about dim
and annoying.
What nationality are YOU, Jockbreath Jeffy!?
Just curious. I had thought YOU were "Esti",
for a spell, there.