#fiRCign 5/27/99 A of C

[Tiny Dr. Tim]

Session Start: Thu May 27 20:59:45 1999
*** Now talking in #firesign
<DocTechnical> yo bfw
<DocTechnical> yo klok - i'm logging for the tiny doctor
<bfwestley> hello
<klokwkdog> howdoodie
<DocTechnical> op us ... ?
<klokwkdog> please?
<bfwestley> what do I type again
<bfwestley> ? oper
<DocTechnical> type /op <nick>
<bfwestley> I just tried that, it wanted a password
<kend^> hello dear friends
<DocTechnical> give it the pwd for your registered nick
<bfwestley> chanserv got kend and me
<bfwestley> oh
<klokwkdog> ahhh
<DocTechnical> yaaaay
<kend^> what's the server of choice tonight?
<bfwestley> superflurous
<klokwkdog> i'm on liberty
<DocTechnical> don't know - we all just got here
<DocTechnical> i'm on splitrock.tx.us
<kend^> hey bri, is that what's in toothpaste?
<klokwkdog> only the kind that doesn't matter...
<DocTechnical> Dentyne or Libertine - you be the judge
<kend^> i'm 4 or under to everyone, will stay where i am
<bfwestley> extra toothpaste, with superflurous
<kend^> judge not, lest ye be judged!
<DocTechnical> i'll be the judge of that
<klokwkdog> purity of vital essence!
<DocTechnical> ope
<kend^> vitality of essential pureness
<kend^> either way, sounds good to me
<DocTechnical> fred approved my final packaging for "in the firezone"
<bfwestley> chlorofluoridation
<DocTechnical> so i gotta get it printed for him 2nite
<kend^> hip hip, hooray!
<DocTechnical> if i appear to be occupied, you'll know why
<kend^> or is that hippy hippy shake shake
<kend^> occupied, is that like possessed?
<kend^> hi cat
<klokwkdog> howdy cease
<bfwestley> oh, I made dropshadows for pix using tables in
www.westley.org/fst_tour/index2.html
<cease> hi folks
<DocTechnical> latest changes to the packaging are at
http://www.doctechnical.com/random/firezone.htm
<DocTechnical> bfw: i'll czech them out!
<klokwkdog> more like repossessed, in this case
*** kend^ changes topic to 'Party Hearty without TinyDrTim tonight!'
<cease> bf, your nasa-ites have been joined by the chinese group in red
shift today
<DocTechnical> wow bri, your vidcaps really look great... hi res &
everything
<DocTechnical> or are those photos?
<bfwestley> cat: sounds good
<bfwestley> doc: those are vidcaps, shrunk to half size (improves
resolution a bit)
<DocTechnical> can spolisport ad be used on radionow site too?
<kend^> nice, tom, now i'll check the others
<bfwestley> doc: sure, you want to just grab it and the pix?
<DocTechnical> sure.
<klokwkdog> nice packaging, DT; back from the shadows, eh bri?
<kend^> good 3-d effect bri, adds something to it
<kend^> we can piss right in the stream!
<bfwestley> put the shadows back in this time. Yes, good CD pix, doc
<DocTechnical> too dimensional, man!
<klokwkdog> darn, i don't have 3-D video card, either
<kend^> put on your blue and red glasses, kwd!
<DocTechnical> didja take a close look at the ticket on the CD back
cover?
<bfwestley> I hope it works for all browsers, it's a little flakey to
use
filled table cells
<klokwkdog> nah, DT, your basic 20th Century schizoid man
<klokwkdog> not real cloose
<bfwestley> what about it?
<kend^> what, the "sector r"
<DocTechnical> i made some changes fred suggested - yes, sector r, seat
666...
<kend^> i caught it first time i saw it!
<DocTechnical> and the ticketmaster logo was doctored
<bfwestley> the URL scrolled off, what's the URL again doc?
<klokwkdog> a free seat with the Seventh Seal'ed Cav?
<DocTechnical> http://www.doctechnical.com/random/firezone.htm
<kend^> i can't see the logo, i'm on laptop, poor resolution
<DocTechnical> 2nd t changed to h
<klokwkdog> if we don't get resolution, the episode will never end!
<cease> topographic mars on abc news now. wow
<kend^> if i tip the screen just right, i can see a hint of it, but
can't
read it
<bfwestley> doc, did you also to "Bagley Wright TheatRE"?
<kend^> topo gigio mars is it?
<klokwkdog> cease: been there, done that.
<DocTechnical> oops, thought i fixed all those
<bfwestley> The ticket says "BW theatre" but the big black letters is
"bw
theater"
<klokwkdog> cease - nasa is starting up a new page to showcase Hubble
results (nothing 2 do with Mars 'cept the storm)
<bfwestley> my actual ticket says "BW theatre", so the copy on the right
should be "theatre"
<DocTechnical> oh really? i hadn't noticed that theater on ticket was
spelled theatre...
<cease> mudhead was always turning me on to such things. aint heard from
him in a while
<klokwkdog> didja see the part where the northern hemisphere is like, 3
miles lower?
<kend^> dt: when and where will these gems be available?
<DocTechnical> guess i should change all the "bw theater" refs to
"theatre."
<cease> tiny's with his daughter tonight?
<bfwestley> or was that just for the ticket?
<kend^> she probably just landed
<DocTechnical> k^: that's up to the fireguys. i'm printing updated cd
jewel case inserts for him 2nite...
<DocTechnical> ...wil fedex them to him tomorrow, he'll get them out to
the guise monday...
<kend^> or he's flying?
<cease> lucky man
<kend^> maybe both
<DocTechnical> ...if they approve, firezine can start producing them in
quantity
*** klokwkdog is now known as kwdgoeat
<cease> this is the seattle show, doc?
<DocTechnical> ok klok, goeat - we'll be here -
<DocTechnical> cease: yes, and a better edit than the one i left with
you
too. eq is better also.
<cease> An Infinite tril will be in the mail to you tomorrow. fish
should
have the dat to you soon too
<bfwestley> doc: should we replace the audio clips in the tour pages
with
the same sunday clips? The audio should be better
*** kwdgoeat is now known as klokwkdog
<DocTechnical> bfw: yes, we can do that. brb, phone...
<bfwestley> I use the driving car bit and US plus (I'll have to change
the
timing)
<bfwestley> oh, and Dreamo cigars
<cease> driving car bit?
<klokwkdog> nice thing, having only one phone: it can't ring during
firesign chat!
<kend^> i have 2 lines, but i won't answer the voice one unless caller
id
shows, or they talk to the machine
<bfwestley> bergman driving the car
<kend^> hi pete
<klokwkdog> hi PB!
<cease> oh that. ralph spoilsport morphing into radio now
<PeteyB> Hiya, friends
<cease> and speaking of petes
<kend^> good to have you with us tonight!
<kend^> all hail lennon, marx, AND PETE!
<klokwkdog> do the op thing - I can't
*** Arken is now known as EdmundEdmund
<DocTechnical> yo pb... on the phone w/lili from paris right now...
<EdmundEdmund> Woohoo
<PeteyB> Nice to be here, thanks
<cease> moss? who let that detective in here
<EdmundEdmund> Hiya.
<kend^> hey ee
<kend^> glad you showed up
<cease> hey ed. great work in china this aft
<klokwkdog> SAY HI TO LILI, DT!!
<EdmundEdmund> Thanks.
<klokwkdog> hi EE
<kend^> hi lili, you sexy thang!
<PeteyB> Lili Lamont?
<bfwestley> is that the real pb?
* EdmundEdmund was far from at his best today, actually.
<kend^> the one and only, pb
<cease> you and richard have wonderful theatrical instincts. why is that
no susrpise?
<klokwkdog> the one & only 4 sure: April in Paris; now June!
<PeteyB> I'm an artificial PB,actually
<kend^> cloned pb?
<EdmundEdmund> He's not THE PB, he's A PB. Didn't you hear, they come in
six-packs?
<bfwestley> fighting clones?
<PeteyB> No shoes, doctor
<kend^> 6 packs? you mean there's more than one?
aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhh!
<klokwkdog> maybe we can get some more and have a fight - fighting
clones
night...
<EdmundEdmund> cat: If you ever want us in anything again, let us know.
It
was fun. I hadn't acted since Minicon with bfw.
<cease> well, there's phil and phil and phil and
<PeteyB> Not THAT Pete B
<kend^> well, then, which pete b?
<EdmundEdmund> Speaking of which...you have a tape you can send my way,
bfw?
<klokwkdog> yep, cat, pretty soon you have a, uh, Phil-harmonic
<PeteyB> Another one...the green one
<cease> well ed, the play i'm doing now is basically just 4 voices, me
and
3 friends in vancouver. the next play however will be a multi-voice
thing
and you'll certainly get The Call
<kend^> ooh, pun city tonight
<EdmundEdmund> Yay.
<bfwestley> eded: not at the moment, I'll ask this weekend, see if I can
get one or two
<EdmundEdmund> Ok. Thanks.
<cease> did you get that Power graphic finished that i interrupted you
from, ed?
* EdmundEdmund is working on a project of his own, but it has no actors
whatsoever.
<bfwestley> jerry stearns is going to the midwest radio theater
workshop.
anyone else? anyone know if ossman will be there again?
<EdmundEdmund> Actually, I was just doing layout. The graphics were done
ages ago. Ted Bonnitt wanted to add liner notes and make changes and I
finished it between your first and second phone call.
<cease> when is the workshop? i don't imagine dave will be doing
anything
but the new album til its in the can
<kend^> where is mw workshop? open to public? i'm in midwest
<EdmundEdmund> Ossman will be there and will be directing.
<EdmundEdmund> The play he is directing is called 'Blatant Exposition'
and
was written by LodesTone's own Joel Pierson.
<cease> you're drowning in talent over there
<EdmundEdmund> And the workshop's performance night is open to the
public.
It'll be June 12th in Fulton, MO at the William Woods College
auditorium.
<EdmundEdmund> We're treading water anyway.
<kend^> sh*t! i've got to go to close friend's wedding that day :(
<bfwestley> web at http://members.socket.net/~mrtw/
<EdmundEdmund> members.socket.net?
* EdmundEdmund goes to www.mrtw.org
<cease> wow, that;s shortly before the deadline for Billsville
<EdmundEdmund> Oh. Same thing.
<bfwestley> a web search found that
<kend^> there's something there, it's loading now
<EdmundEdmund> Go to that website. Listen to the third show. I'm th'
star.
(And I'm so modest.)
<bfwestley> that's probably the host machine
<kend^> i've got it bookmarked, will do later
<EdmundEdmund> Indeed.
<EdmundEdmund> I've embarked on a new project as of tonight.
<klokwkdog> nice; loads slow
<kend^> peteyb, tell us some lies about yourself, introduce yourself to
our crazy family here
<bfwestley> some guys were trying to register all 4-letter domain names
<EdmundEdmund> I'm doing 'The War of the Worlds' as a son-et-lumiere.
<kend^> he's speaking french!
<bfwestley> as a what-the-heck?
<cease> definitely not a canuck
<klokwkdog> "Working with children in radio drama" - scary stuff!
<PeteyB> Just a lifelong Firesign fan who's known about this IRC channel
since before the beginning, but never been available or could remember
to
join in til now
<kend^> glad you finally pushed the right buttons then, pb
<cease> good you fnally made it, pete. welcome to side 7
<EdmundEdmund> son-et-lumiere...sound and light show. No actors. Just
foley 'n lights + pictures.
<kend^> we are always anything except sane
<PeteyB> Thanks, I'm plowed to be an owned man...I'm plowed!
<klokwkdog> all the good parts, eh EE - dropping the boring exposition
stuff...
<cease> you can have a picture of orson ossman as orson welles. good
publicity for Red Shift
<kend^> the nuttier you are, the better you fit in here
<DocTechnical> sorry, the phone connection was faint and i had to get
away
from the pc so i could converse - did i miss anything?
<cease> brb
<EdmundEdmund> All the good parts of what?
<klokwkdog> pardon?
<kend^> we didn't talk about you, dt
<DocTechnical> you didn't? dang!
<EdmundEdmund> Hiya, Doc.
<DocTechnical> yo arken, baby! howzit hangin?
<kend^> we did about lili, though! (EG)
<klokwkdog> WOTW, EE. Sounds like you could sell this worldwide!
<kend^> hey hnn
<HasNoName> Howdy...
<DocTechnical> k^; i just bet you did. poor dear, she's working her
little fingers to the bone
<klokwkdog> lots about lili...
<DocTechnical> yo hnn!
<EdmundEdmund> It hangs well.
<EdmundEdmund> klowk: Sell which?
<DocTechnical> i let her know that her fan club says "high!"
<HasNoName> Guten abend, menchen...
<DocTechnical> she says "high!" back
<kend^> not here, just a good cigar
<DocTechnical> hnn: using that alta vista translator?
<HasNoName> no. doc, going by memory...
<klokwkdog> The War Of The Worlds, EE. Overseas markets hate it when
there's lots of talking
<EdmundEdmund> Heh.
* EdmundEdmund was just thinking of a live show locally, but you never
know
<DocTechnical> hnn: im-PRESSive!
<EdmundEdmund> Still, Asian markets only seem to like bad action films.
<klokwkdog> Yeah, DT, I finally put it up on my Netscape channels. It's
a
riot.
<klokwkdog> lots of explosions, ee, lots of explosions and flying cars
<EdmundEdmund> People will HEAR the explosions...and lights will flash.
<bfwestley> how can they hear what I see?
<klokwkdog> Gee, just like the last ELP concert I went to
<DocTechnical> metaphysical absurdity isnever out of style
<kend^> my email box just exploded, i got 1.02meg attachment!
<DocTechnical> klok: elp concers? when was that? 1978?
<EdmundEdmund> You remember the last ELP concert you went to?
<klokwkdog> ...and I thought I was going to hear music
<DocTechnical> er, concert?
<klokwkdog> 76, I think
<klokwkdog> no, 74
<DocTechnical> if you can remember it, you weren't there!
<kend^> never saw elp, was into king crimson, yes, santana
<DocTechnical> oooh, would love to have seen red-era king crimson but
never got the chance
<klokwkdog> kc, santana great, but rarely came within striking range in
NC
<cease> i used to like elp. but then i used to like lots of folks
<klokwkdog> had to motor to Georgetown just to see P&B
<klokwkdog> well, the concert was the end of it for me, 4 sure
<DocTechnical> cease: i listenend to pictures at an exhibition recently,
it was fine except when greg lake was singing
<kend^> fripp was great, took whole gram of hash to concert once, smoked
it by myself
<DocTechnical> he just makes me cringe these days
<EdmundEdmund> IMHO, that's their best album.
<kend^> lucky man, best elp song ever, imo
<kend^> but p@ex was good for sure
<cease> great keyboard on that
<HNN> Hmmm...
<DocTechnical> the slow stuff kinda bugs me, but that extended blues
thing
- emerson was really at his peak then
<klokwkdog> it's good, but Brain Salad was good, too; I HATE Lucky Man,
the incessant airplay has destroyed it for me
<kend^> hnn, want hasnoname kicked?
<DocTechnical> yes, brain salad was their last hurrah imho
<kend^> even with the airplay, still great
<EdmundEdmund> Lucky man I like much, yes, but Pictures at an Exhibition
is a great album. Plus, I love Mussorsky.
<EdmundEdmund> And Keith Emerson is one of the best rock keyboardists
out
there.
<klokwkdog> Like D. Bromberg talking about playing "Mr. Bojangles" with
Jerry Jeff every show for 2 years: "after the clubs would close, we did
horrible things to it"
<PeteyB> Having never been a lucky man, I just can't relate to it
*** HNN is now known as HasNoName
<DocTechnical> hey, how did this morpg into
#old_farts_talking_about_progressive_rock?
<DocTechnical> er morph
<cease> i enjoyed bromberg's rap about that
<HasNoName> Simple, Doc, with the work of an SGI workstation...
<klokwkdog> no, we're talking about Impressionist music!
<klokwkdog> into the Ozone, eh?
<cease> was has here?
<DocTechnical> pb, hnn, klok: lol!
<DocTechnical> waiting for bromberg (or someone like him)?
<HasNoName> cat: That's the question I ask myself all the time...
<kend^> ooh, that 1meg file was avi of man at sports event picking his
nose and eating it!
<DocTechnical> hnn: lol!!
<cease> oh thre you are has
<DocTechnical> gotta be healthier than the hot dogs they sell at those
things
<PeteyB> Well, with the concession prices these days...
<cease> working and hanging out on irc. good life, has
<HasNoName> Yes, cat, in theory...
<kend^> i won't even ask if anyone else wants that one
<DocTechnical> better than hanging and working out, i guess...
<klokwkdog> You know, cease, that MW Radio Workshop reminds me of Lorne
Michaels' Radio School
<EdmundEdmund> kend: Sounds like you'd like www.sickos.com
<bfwestley> eded, you going to the MRTW?
<kend^> ee: is that a real site?
<EdmundEdmund> EdEd is, yes.
<cease> not familiar with that school, klok
<EdmundEdmund> kend: Yes indeed. Very disturbing it is too.
<kend^> is it like rotten.com?
<EdmundEdmund> IMHO, the workshop needs to get the hell out of fulton.
<kend^> if so, then i'll pass on it
<EdmundEdmund> kend: Yes.
<EdmundEdmund> I passed on it myself...but after getting excited about
that avi, I thought you'd like it. ;)
<klokwkdog> hey, ee, what is this "Global Live Feed on the WWW"?
<kend^> i wasn't excited, just disturbed!
<DocTechnical> pb: i have an extensive collection of vinyl (and some
offbeat cds) containing audio moments that you might be able to use in
your audio assemblages
<bfwestley> we tried to get a twin cities RTW but just the one happened,
we got no funding
<DocTechnical> i'll have to make you a cassette or something.
<bfwestley> doc, should I make those series of billboards for the new
CD?
<PeteyB> Doc: That would be great! I'd appreciate anything you care to
send!
<EdmundEdmund> klok: No idea. I'm not privy to MRTW inner workings.
<klokwkdog> it says it will be broadcast from tape on PBS, live across
MO,
and on the WWW
<cease> you do radio, pete?
<DocTechnical> pb: you got it
<DocTechnical> bfw: billboard away!!!!
<EdmundEdmund> I wouldn't put it past the organizers, klok. They're very
adept people.
<HNN> Ai yi yi...
<PeteyB> Yes, I do a once-monthly show at a college station in
Indianapolis
<kend^> hnn: what's up? musical servers?
<EdmundEdmund> MRTW attendees are the best at Audio Theatre in the
country
after all.
<PeteyB> Big time! :)
<cease> another indianan? nothing but indianans
<EdmundEdmund> Petey: You're in Indiana too?
<klokwkdog> aaaaagh! CA is putting Reagan on a LICENSE PLATE
<EdmundEdmund> Cat: And you thought we just had a big cornfield here
too...
<kend^> i'm almost in indiana, can see the toll road from hill by
walmart
in town here
<PeteyB> Yes-and I've been to Goshen!
<kend^> i've been to goshen, too, less than hour from me
<EdmundEdmund> California: Land of Reagan and Enemas for fun.
<klokwkdog> ah, that view from the WalMart...
<cease> lary yeager and you guys and now this one. must be cuz proc was
born there
<PeteyB> It's in the water
<kend^> in the walmart parking lot, hitching post for amish buggies,
always big piles of crap there
* EdmundEdmund has no idea where in Indiana Goshen is located.
<klokwkdog> somebody op HNN?
<EdmundEdmund> That's why it's yellow.
<cease> well, aren't license plates made by prisoners? seems fitting, as
reagan imprisoned the population of the state
<kend^> north, almost on michigan border, east of s.bend
<klokwkdog> i didn't get op ability this time
<EdmundEdmund> Too far from me.
<EdmundEdmund> Why the hell is South Bend in the north anyway?
<DocTechnical> cease: lol!
<bfwestley> I don't wanna be an op! I can't handle the responsibility!
<kend^> it's the south bend of the st. joseph river, from there it flows
north back into michigan
<PeteyB> Because Indiana was founded by Kentuckians who got lost on
their
way to Michigan
* EdmundEdmund grins.
<DocTechnical> pb: lol!!!!
<EdmundEdmund> I always thought this place was a little strange, Petey.
<cease> i thought it was founded by folks who couldnt spell "indians"
<EdmundEdmund> I wanna go back to NYC.
<DocTechnical> is everyone in south bend a little bent?
<bfwestley> oh doc, is there a good recording of Bagley Wright from
saturday?
<kend^> i know cute indianan, fools around on her husband, got me
thinking
real serious
<EdmundEdmund> Oh, we knew how to spell it...we just didn't know when to
stop...
<klokwkdog> darn, them flyovers sure do get into spats, eh?
<EdmundEdmund> Indiananananan
<HasNoName> I'm back, I think...
<PeteyB> LOL
<DocTechnical> ee: come on over! we'll be glad to play host again
<DocTechnical> elayne & robin just moved - to riverdale, i think
<cease> isnt that a mental hospital?
<EdmundEdmund> Doc: I just might. My Dad is going soon. Selling three
movie posters at Southeby's.
<bfwestley> with porgie & mudhead?
<kend^> sure it's not river city? i hear there's big trouble in river
city
now
<PeteyB> Does she know Archie?
<EdmundEdmund> He'll be rakin' in th' moolah.
<DocTechnical> cease: the town, not the mental hosptial! (lol)
<DocTechnical> ee: sotheby's? wow!
* HasNoName was thinking of asking something along the lines of peteyb's
question...
<klokwkdog> only over by the pool, kend
<DocTechnical> i'll be glad to help with that raking, ee
<EdmundEdmund> Doc: The posters in question are an original King Kong,
20,000 Years in Sing-Sing and Dante's Inferno.
<HasNoName> raking ee?
<bfwestley> doc: yoo hoo, do you or freditor have the saturday bagley
wright show audio?
<kend^> jughead pissed in the pool from the diving board, again?
<EdmundEdmund> EdEd would like to be raking too, but EdEd's dad is a
tightwad.
<DocTechnical> bri: yes, and as soon as i get some more 2cd jewel cases
i
intend to burn up a bunch of 'em for all the attendees!
<PeteyB> EE: The 1925 or 1935 Dante's Inferno?
<EdmundEdmund> Good question, Petey. My guess is the 1925, but I'm not
certain.
<kend^> kend^'s dad is tightwad too, just bought himself new 99 lincoln
town car, paid cash, bought me dinner at olive garden
<bfwestley> doc: OK, I'd like permission to sync it with my video of it
so
it has a decent soundtrack
<EdmundEdmund> It looks a little too art nouveau for 1935.
<klokwkdog> why did he buy you dinner? sounds wasteful to me, kend
<DocTechnical> bfw: oops, you said saturday not sunday! dang...
<DocTechnical> fred's got a cassette copy of the saturday show, email
him
about it
<EdmundEdmund> My papa knows movies. He founded the IU Film Studies
dept.
<bfwestley> doc: ok
<kend^> yep, it didn't stay long in the tract here, tops 36 hours
<klokwkdog> har
<PeteyB> Impressive
<EdmundEdmund> It's only impressive if he isn't your father. ;)
<PeteyB> That explains it! :)
<EdmundEdmund> Strange.
<EdmundEdmund> The imdb lets you search every decade from
1890-2010...but
there are no movies listed for 2010.
<cease> intravenous films? sounds painful
<kend^> my dad said to me: why should i die and let my kids drive new
cars, when i can do it now, save them the trouble of car shopping!
<EdmundEdmund> Oh. I see. That's why.
<EdmundEdmund> It won't take a blank entry in the search field.
<EdmundEdmund> Poo.
<klokwkdog> ee, check the Star Wars stuff - Zentertainment had them out
to
2025, although L sez only 2 more
<PeteyB> I had all the celluloid extracted from my thighs
<DocTechnical> 2010 - a space oligarchy
<EdmundEdmund> 2025?!? Yeesh.
<EdmundEdmund> I may be one of the few people in this world who won't go
see the new Star Wars movie.
<klokwkdog> I will, when it gets cheap
<kend^> ee: i will wait until the deluxe edition comes out on vhs
<EdmundEdmund> Heh.
<cease> i'll wait for the vid. wouldn't even rent that except i wanna
see
how it looks on my new big screen tv
<EdmundEdmund> I've never seen a movie this marketed. Makes me ill
really.
<DocTechnical> geez, hnn is having his problems w/servers 2nite
<PeteyB> I'll see it when it comes to broadcast TV, as long as it isn't
on
against "The Simposons" or "World's Wildest Lavatory Accidents" or
something
<cease> lol, pete
<klokwkdog> what was that thing in Salon, the top 10 reasons not to see
Phant. Menace?
<DocTechnical> you mean you think the star wars marketing machine has
outdone titanic? i didn't think that was possible
<DocTechnical> Star Bores: The Fandom Menace!
<EdmundEdmund> Doc: By far.
<klokwkdog> pb - Fox owns it - it'll play there before HBO, slightly
after
videotape appears
<EdmundEdmund> In fact, I read a figure that if the movie was never
released, they would have made a 300% profit just on the merchandising.
<PeteyB> You'd almost think it was a Disney film, from all the marketing
<klokwkdog> everyone who hasn't seen it, check "Park Wars, The Little
Menace", a shot-by-shot remake of the P.M. trailer with South Park
characters
<kend^> that is obscene, ee
<EdmundEdmund> That's why I don't want to see the movie.
<klokwkdog> what got me about Titanic is...you KNOW what happens...
<EdmundEdmund> Plus, George Lucas doesn't deserve to live. He "did"
direct
Howard the Duck after all.
<cease> one of the first thing i downloaded on new cable modem, klok.
even
though i'm not a fan of star wars, i loved it
<DocTechnical> klok: yeah, cease and i looked at it during my visit to
north vancouver - what a hoot!
<kend^> damn, tried to delete that 1M file from inbox, crashed netscape
4.6, the "bugless" version
<cease> i'd rather watch howard the duck. or better yet, read the comix
<EdmundEdmund> Yeah, but you know what happens in lots of movies that
actually are good...
<EdmundEdmund> The comics were great. The film was pure evil.
<klokwkdog> you can d/l the thing from the site and run locally; the
RealAudio is only 600K for the 28.8 version, so it's not a long d/l
<PeteyB> "WAAUUGH!"
<cease> the same could be said about fritz the cat, ed
<cease> somethings are not meant to be made into movies. comix, for one
<cease> The Lord of the Rings for another
<klokwkdog> yeah, I keep reading that "Batman" was an inspired
adaptation.
Huh?
<EdmundEdmund> I dunno...I would like to see a film of The Watchmen. I
bet
they could do a decent job.
<kend^> oh god, they aren't making a movie of tolkein are they?
<PeteyB> Cease, you keep naming Bakshi movies :)
<bfwestley> terry gilliam was supposed to do watchmen at one point
<EdmundEdmund> They are making three Lord of the Rings movies...Peter
Jackson is directing. He's done a good job in the past.
<klokwkdog> cease: most of NZ is optioned to produce Lord of the Rings
for
2000
<DocTechnical> i've still got my htd comics stashed away somewhere...
one
of the few non-underground comics i got into - er - way back then
<EdmundEdmund> bfw: He got it all tied up in legal problems and had to
stop.
<EdmundEdmund> Doc: I have all the issues. One of the few
non-undergrounds
or independents for me too...
<klokwkdog> Jackson has a gawdawful Linux-based system that will blow
ILM's sox off; they are storyboarding like mad
<EdmundEdmund> Peter Jackson is an interesting director...but very
uneven.
<PeteyB> I've still got all of them, too...Lost a lot of steam when it
went into magazine format
<EdmundEdmund> Heavenly Creatures was an amazing film, though.
<cease> the only good comic to movie i've seen is mann's Comic Book
Confidential, and that's only about comix
<klokwkdog> Xena for elf queen!
<DocTechnical> cease: i concur
<EdmundEdmund> That is a great film!
<EdmundEdmund> I dunno...what about the early '80s Flash Gordon film? It
captured the spirit of the comic strip EXACTLY. I think it's lots of
fun.
<cease> i wonder what man will do with Grass? proctor and ossman will
certainly make it enjoyable
<EdmundEdmund> Max von Sydow as Ming the Merciless...can't be bad...
<klokwkdog> Flesh Gordon?
<kend^> penisaurus was my favorite!
<cease> yes, that was good
<EdmundEdmund> I liked Flesh too...but was talking about Flash.
<EdmundEdmund> There's got to be another good comic book adapted
movie...
<EdmundEdmund> Lemme think...
<cease> i've only seen flesh.
<klokwkdog> I liked the blind newsboy - incredible takeoff on Shazam...
<DocTechnical> uh-oh, now we've morphed into #comix_central!!!
<cease> and elayne isnt even here
<klokwkdog> isn't that a cable channel?
<EdmundEdmund> Hehe
<DocTechnical> cease: lol - yes, elayne is missing a rare opportunity
here!
<klokwkdog> where HAS elayne been lately?
<EdmundEdmund> Elayne would argue with all of us anyway and say that
there
are lots of good movies based on comix...
<cease> what was freditor saying about grass? he seemed to know quite a
bit about it
<DocTechnical> klok: probably still reeling from the move, in all
likelihood
<EdmundEdmund> Ooh...another good movie ABOUT comix without being an
adaptation is 'Crumb'. I highly recommend it.
<bfwestley> the first batman was good, but they went the wrong direction
after that
<PeteyB> Is Freditor interested? It doesn't have Charles Ogle in it
<cease> i dindt like it at all, and i like crumb. that may be why
<klokwkdog> Now THAT is an artist
<DocTechnical> ee: oh, yes, can't forget "crumb" ... what a nighmare of
a
family! dysfunction-palooza, indeed!
<EdmundEdmund> I like Crumb and the film...but it is an acquired taste,
I
suppose. Very disturbing.
<cease> i think fred is interested cuz of the firesign involvement
<kend^> i just (offline) icq'ed elayne, told her to read the log
<DocTechnical> k^: she'll appreciate that!
<klokwkdog> he's been doing "Dark Hotel" some
<EdmundEdmund> 'The Crow' wasn't bad...
<EdmundEdmund> As action movies go
<cease> i tried to get Krassner involved, with no luck. too bad, as his
dope stories book will be coming out about the same time as that flick
<klokwkdog> words out of a hot #firesign log...
<cease> crumb is ddoing dark hotel? on salon?
<EdmundEdmund> What's Dark Hotel?
<klokwkdog> I thought he was one of the 3
<kend^> damn, lit my cigar but, singed my moustache! smell of burning
hair
is gross
<cease> the colour comic on friday's salon
<klokwkdog> maybe i'm cornfused
<kend^> better than cornflaked
<cease> great stuff
<cease> to close to all those cornfields, kend
<EdmundEdmund> Oh...and hey...I liked the first Superman Film. Marlon
Brando...Gene Hackman...is good.
* EdmundEdmund realizes that during discussion of comix he had begun to
speak like the Flaming Carrot. Ut!
<cease> i loved the one about burroughs in maya-land
<DocTechnical> kend^: that's why i use a waterpipe!
<kend^> for cigars doc?
<DocTechnical> not exactly, k... but then, that's the point...
<kend^> antonio y cleopatra grenadier here, natural (NOT maduro) wrapper
<EdmundEdmund> Flaming Carrot. Is comic. Is funny. Is good. You read
now.
<DocTechnical> ever stuff one'o'them phillies blunts?
<DocTechnical> ee: you going balkan on us there?
<PeteyB> Flaming Carrot...reminds me...there's supposed to be a film
version of Burden's "Mystery Men" out this summer
<klokwkdog> where?
<kend^> no, i'm semi-high class when it comes to cigars
<bfwestley> speaking of flaming carrot, how's mystery men look?
<cease> too much talkin, not enough tokin'
<EdmundEdmund> I heard about that, Petey.
<bfwestley> their web site is up, it uses macromedia flash
<DocTechnical> cease: i concur!
<EdmundEdmund> Doc: Nope. Just Flaming Carrot. You should check it out
if
you don't know it. It's right up your alley.
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<DocTechnical> gee, and i didn't know i even *had* an alley! i'll have
to
czech it out, thanx for the tip
<EdmundEdmund> Ayep.
<DocTechnical> ee's doing his new hampshire imitation now... :)
<kend^> eh?
* kend^ is doing canadian imitation
<DocTechnical> what a guy - he even does accents typographically!
<EdmundEdmund> Naw. I's doin' mah Injana. We say 'ayep' round these here
parts too.
<DocTechnical> ee: oic
<PeteyB> Pepp'ridge Fahm remembehs!
<DocTechnical> well, you had me fooled
<kend^> i think nh is "ayup", with a "U"
<EdmundEdmund> Ayup.
<cease> important cigars in the war room
<DocTechnical> impotent?
<EdmundEdmund> Netscape has decided to hate me. "sigh"
<DocTechnical> yours 'til viagra falls
<bfwestley> aren't they cee-gars?
<DocTechnical> sea cars?
<PeteyB> Be sure to light the end that looks like the bombs we used to
drop on the Gerrys
<DocTechnical> what a concept
<DocTechnical> pb: lol!!!
<bfwestley> VIAGRA FALLS! Slowly I turn...on
<kend^> ee: got 4.6? it's "bugless"! yeah, right!
<EdmundEdmund> kend: I actually like Netscape 3. Not much bloat. Fast.
Fun.
<cease> do a story about it, ed. you can call it Nutscape. or no, that's
taken
<DocTechnical> notscape?
<bfwestley> eded: me too, I stopped at netscape 3. Had 4, tossed it
<kend^> i resisted the evil tempation to d/l ie5
<DocTechnical> noescape?
<PeteyB> Noescape 4.6
<DocTechnical> the j.p. sartre browser, noescape
<cease> how sartresque
<kend^> lol guys! like it
<EdmundEdmund> Ouch. The stock market went kablooie today.
<kend^> 257 pts. i hear, did the internet stocks take a real nosedive?
didn't get details, only the #
<cease> not my stocks
<EdmundEdmund> And Spike Lee is doing commercials for the US Navy.
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<bfwestley> not too bad, and my stocks held up ok
<cease> angela davis, cotton mather....
<PeteyB> Apple vendors jumping out of skyscrapers
<kend^> my vote is with angela
<klokwkdog> opera!
<kend^> the ring of the niebulungen
<bfwestley> apple vendors reduced to selling...apples?
<EdmundEdmund> That's how they liked them apples, I guess.
<PeteyB> Breadlines waiting for hours to buy soup kitchens
<kend^> every time i hear "ride of the valkyries" i have to think, "i
love
the smell of napalm in the morning"
<DocTechnical> cease: i mentioned to a fellow ssb programmer you being
invested in canadian stocks...
<cease> they know of such things at ssb?
<DocTechnical> he said "good for him, the canadian stock market isn't as
over-valued" ...
<kend^> single side band?
<klokwkdog> cease, I worked thru DH artists and you're right - no R
Crumb.
sorry
<EdmundEdmund> I just got in a big argument with someone today about
Apocalypse Now vs. Heart of Darkness...
<DocTechnical> thought you'd be interested in that little tidbit
<EdmundEdmund> Co in ci dence.
<cease> thanks, doc
<kend^> coinkydink
<cease> in general, i haven't found my canuckies that responsive to what
the us market is doing
<kend^> i didn't read or see heart of darkness
<klokwkdog> I finally saw the whole "Ring", kend, and believe me, Wagner
REALLY ripped off Tolkein - up one side and down the other.
<cease> i tried to read it but got lost
<kend^> heil richard!
<EdmundEdmund> Hehe
<EdmundEdmund> Heart of Darkness, IMHO is great. Didn't like Apocalypse
Now...but I'm in a minority.
<DocTechnical> klok: lol! ("good artists borrow, great artists steal" -
a
great artist)
<PeteyB> I thought Wagner came first
<klokwkdog> i had to read it- I was stuck on a packet ship in the Gulf
and
one night the crew just left. it was an old rust-bucket and nearly sank
before we were rescued
<EdmundEdmund> I just thought it was silly to change the setting because
the setting in Conrad's book is perfectly suitable.
<DocTechnical> honus?
<kend^> time has no meaning to us, petey
<cease> and the congo remains in darkness
<PeteyB> It's electric
<cease> now it's just no making the king of belgium richer
<klokwkdog> who knows where the time goes?
<klokwkdog> gad, cease, was he a prick or what?
<cease> judy collins does
<DocTechnical> time isn't holding us, time isn't after us
<kend^> i used to have such a crush on judy collins

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