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I think this is a stupid pool. Monty Python is a complete act, you
can't separate out the parts. A curious British habit of always
establishing a pecking order. Queuing discipline?
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As the father of twins, I disagree. It is essential that individual
achievement is recognised. The Beatles, for example, were not just one
band whose entire output should be seen as a collective whole. It is
extremely important that the work is analysed and each member's
contribution evaulated and, where appropriate, praised.
That leaves out Ringo, then.
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Don't forget 'The Octopus's Garden'. Oh dear, yes, I see what you
mean.....
Still, he'll be fondly remembered for Thomas The Tank Engine.
Not forgetting "Don't Pass Me By"! Even the Rutles lampooned that one, to
bring this slightly back on topic!
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True, but is it necessarily a pecking order? As it happens, each Beatle
were quite distinct and original in their own way. Every member wrote songs.
>Every member wrote songs.
... except Ringo - well not what you'd call songs anyway!
It doesn't matter though. He was the perfect drummer for the band.
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Colin
Surely a team/group/etc is the sum of it's parts. Would the Beatles
have been as good if one of them was missing, even Ringo. You can
argue that maybe John or Paul were more important in that they wrote
most of the songs but without the other two members those songs could
not be performed.
It's much better to compare solo artists I'd say. I guess your poll
could be used to find the person who used to be in MP who has been
the funniest while working outside MP though.
And I'm also a twin. My parents recognised us as equals and didn't
form any kind of pecking order. That way neither of us felt superior
or inferior to the other. Do you really do that with your twins?
Twin the greater and twin the lesser? Of course both my and my twin's
individual acheivements were also recognised but that didn't make
either of us better or worse than the other. It's just that I was
better at certain things than she was and vice versa.
Cheers
Jeff
Surely a team/group/etc is the sum of it's parts. Would the Beatles
> A curious British habit
Pray, dear Sir, what has been the reasoning behind your deduction that the
establishing of "best Python" is essentially attributable to wht you call a
curious British habit.
My personal experience is that basically matters of a ranking nature such
as the election of Miss Insert-your-favorite-theme-here 2005, or Employee
Of The Month, or indeed "spelling bees" are anathema to the American
character and culture, given as it is to competition per se as a way of
life, nay, as the very basis of "The American Dream".
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Surely a team/group/etc is the sum of it's parts. Would the Beatles
>And I'm also a twin. My parents recognised us as equals and didn't
>form any kind of pecking order. That way neither of us felt superior
>or inferior to the other.
Nah man. That's just what they wanted you to think. They were spoiling
your brother rotten the whole time.
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AH
Well, they spoilt him so much he turned into a girl! ;-)
Cheers
Jeff
My twins are identical and formed from the same egg. I think twins have
to be the same sex and from the same egg to be truly identical.
Having said that, they are very different from each other. One is a
mischevious Dennis The Menace type, the other shy and introverted. That
wasn't by design, they just evolved that way.
Oh ...
I see ...
They didn't tell you about your brother then.
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AH
> My twins are identical and formed from the same egg. I think twins have
> to be the same sex and from the same egg to be truly identical.
>
> Having said that, they are very different from each other. One is a
> mischevious Dennis The Menace type, the other shy and introverted. That
> wasn't by design, they just evolved that way.
I never said I was identical, I have a twin sister but she is still
my twin, we shared the womb and grew up together.
But as you say, even identical twins have different personalities,
abilities, etc even if they are treated exactly the same.
I used this argument when I had a discussion about cloning a while
back.
My friend insisted that if someone was cloned they would be exactly the
same in every way, physically, mentally, the same characteristics.
I said that yes, they would be identical in appearance but it was
impossible to clone someone mentally and that they would not share the
same characteristics, etc. He just couldn't see my viewpoint and
disagreed
with me.
Cheers
Jeff
Although my boys have different personalities, they are both autistic,
which adds a new dimension to the situation, given the fact that autism
is believed to be rooted in cerebral differences. If they were truly
identical as your friend argues, then their autism would be identical,
but it is in fact quite different.
John Cleese
"Waldo Centini" <waldoREMOVE...@zonnet.nl> wrote in message
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Queuing isn't about competitiveness or elitism - quite the reverse. It's
about 'First come, first served' rather than 'Powerful, high status bugger
who pushes hardest first.' It apparently arose as a civilised and fair
response to World War Two shortages and rationing.
Janet