Message from discussion Foreign Students

From: m...@cs.utk.edu (Norman Ma)
Subject: Re: Foreign Students
Date: 1996/07/21
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In article <4stn2p$...@daffy.sb.west.net> 72307.2...@compuserve.com (Bruce R) writes:
BR>It is a cozy and commonly held belief that foreign students come here
BR>to learn skills that they cannot learn at home and then take these
BR>skills back to their native countries and put the skills to work
BR>improving the lot of their countrymen.  In reality, 80% of foreign
BR>students who come to the U.S. to study, end up staying permanently,
BR>either by marrying an American citizen, having an American citizen
BR>anchor baby, going on to an American graduate school, or by getting a
BR>job at a shyster company that gets the person an H1B visa for life.
BR>
BR>The foreign student program in the U.S. is nothing more than an
BR>additional immigration program in disguise.  As any INS employee will
BR>tell you, once a person sets foot in the U.S., it is very, very
BR>unlikely that he will ever be forced to leave.

Bruce, Bruce, BRUCE!
Actually, we would like all Ph.D. students to stay and contribute 
to our society.  It is not economical to spend over $200,000 
(that was more than five years ago) to put someone through a Ph.D. 
study and then lose that talent to some foreign country.  Considering 
that the average salary of an engineering Ph.D. is some where around 
$65,000 through $85,000, that's $24,050 through $31,450 worth of
tax revenue for the IRS.  Moreover, maybe one of these Ph.D.s (who
care whats their nationality or ethnic origin) will advance the
technology and save the World.

As to the illegal Mexican, El Salvadoran, etc.  Their life is 
pathetic and miserable at their homeland or here anyway.  Why
kick someone when their own country has already extinguished 
their spirit and hope?  Unless you just have that Macho Killer Instinct 
:-) or perhaps you don't like the competition? According to the 
Bible and El Koran, the rich shall extend helping hands to 
the feeble.  With the way we American sucking in the world 
resource, we can all afford to lose about 10 or 15 pounds.
One thing I can proudly say, though, is that Americans are doing 
far more for the World than other Developed Countries.

By the way, had great Chinese food tonight, and my fortune
cookie said, "A million dollars saved in the bank calms the
mind, while a penny given to the needy soothes the Soul.
--Norm