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smithfarms pure kona  
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 More options Jan 23 2006, 11:19 am
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From: smithfarms pure kona <thun...@smithfarms.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:19:16 GMT
Local: Mon, Jan 23 2006 11:19 am
Subject: sad day for Kona Farmers
WARNING---OT and Rant to follow.

There has been a political upheaval in our small coffee world.  Bob
and I, and many others, have spent years & years in promoting and
protecting the all volunteer Kona Coffee Council (KCC) and yesterday
it was taken over by a political faction of large processors and their
allies.  The farmers are no longer in charge.  

Yesterday was the annual KCC general meeting and the opposition got
proxies from their employees and even the employees kids:<( and just
blew us out of the water. Truthfully the member ship doubled within
the 2 weeks before the Annual Meeting. Votes were cheap at $25 each.

The Kona Coffee Council had gotten so successful that the KCC recently
got some state grants which another Honolulu based coffee group had
assumed they would get. They were part of the "allies" cited above.

IMHO the processors, who buy a lot of coffee from cherry farmers and
then sell to blenders and other coffee people, did not want to pay the
high price for cherry that they have had to pay this year so instead
of supporting the little farmers, they will be supporting themselves.
The KCC had worked for good coffee prices for the little farmer and it
was too successful  Sounds kind of like something in a foreign land,
but it wasn't.

The new BOD will be in for the next 2 years.  Yes, we could have done
many things differently in hindsight, like re-writing the by-laws to
say only grown-ups:) could have proxies.

It is just disheartening and many of us are really devastated, but we
will still keep farming because we love our own Kona Coffee:).  Will
keep you posted if anything some how changes about the KCC.

aloha, Cea

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 More options Jan 23 2006, 12:31 pm
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From: "frelkins" <frelk...@webtv.net>
Date: 23 Jan 2006 09:31:23 -0800
Local: Mon, Jan 23 2006 12:31 pm
Subject: Re: sad day for Kona Farmers
cea,

i know it sounds crazy, but email the ny times biz section. to them it
will seem like a human interest story -- i know this sounds demeaning,
but listen, i *am* being machiavellian here -- this may help persuade
them to run a little piece, which will attract attention to your plight
and generate more news.

when the times runs a piece, many other publications like to pick up
the story. . .thus can start to build a platform for yourself on this!
you may also want to write a press release of your own and send it to
farmer's support groups, who may publish it on their website. maybe
grist.org or someplace like that, too?

good luck,

f


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 More options Jan 23 2006, 1:19 pm
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From: Bolo <jembrewer-...@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:19:05 GMT
Local: Mon, Jan 23 2006 1:19 pm
Subject: Re: sad day for Kona Farmers
...and since there was a recent piece on coffee in the Times, it may be
well worth it to email the author of that piece. She has a blog here:

http://michelleslatalla.typepad.com

Good luck...


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 More options Jan 23 2006, 1:41 pm
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From: "Jack Denver" <nunuv...@netscape.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:41:19 -0500
Local: Mon, Jan 23 2006 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: sad day for Kona Farmers
You and all your farmer friends should resign from the KCC and start your
own organization - the Kona Coffee Growers Council.  The bylaws of this club
should restrict membership to actual Kona growers.

"smithfarms pure kona" <thun...@smithfarms.com> wrote in message
news:se0at11a7fri26bdarduvh3ujbp4tfr5dj@4ax.com...


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 More options Jan 23 2006, 1:43 pm
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From: Java Man <ri...@letterectomyTELUS.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:43:38 GMT
Local: Mon, Jan 23 2006 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: sad day for Kona Farmers
In article <se0at11a7fri26bdarduvh3ujbp4tfr...@4ax.com>,
thun...@smithfarms.com says...
> WARNING---OT and Rant to follow.

What was your overall mission, and how do you think it may change as a
result of this?

Maybe there are other ways to achieve your objectives?

Rick


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smithfarms pure kona  
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 More options Jan 23 2006, 1:57 pm
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From: smithfarms pure kona <thun...@smithfarms.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:57:53 GMT
Local: Mon, Jan 23 2006 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: sad day for Kona Farmers
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:43:38 GMT, Java Man

<ri...@letterectomyTELUS.net> wrote:
>In article <se0at11a7fri26bdarduvh3ujbp4tfr...@4ax.com>,
>thun...@smithfarms.com says...
>> WARNING---OT and Rant to follow.

>What was your overall mission, and how do you think it may change as
a
>result of this?

>Maybe there are other ways to achieve your objectives?

>Rick

Our overall mission was to support and protect 100% Kona.  That was
it.  

This new group is pro-blenders which frankly use 10% Kona and also use
the Kona name--"Kona Blend". The new group is also pretty
pro-bureaucracy and has attempted to get "State Certification' for
even roasting Kona Coffee. Gads. All the bureaucratic certification
business costs us farmers per pound.  When you are a small farmer, as
we are, each added cost is difficult- seriously.

I don't really know what will happen Rick.  They just sat there and
filled out many many proxies before our meeting even began.

We'll be fine.

aloha,
Cea
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 More options Jan 23 2006, 3:15 pm
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From: smithfarms pure kona <thun...@smithfarms.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:15:21 GMT
Local: Mon, Jan 23 2006 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: sad day for Kona Farmers
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:43:38 GMT, Java Man

<ri...@letterectomyTELUS.net> wrote:
>In article <se0at11a7fri26bdarduvh3ujbp4tfr...@4ax.com>,
>thun...@smithfarms.com says...
>> WARNING---OT and Rant to follow.

>What was your overall mission, and how do you think it may change as
a
>result of this?

>Maybe there are other ways to achieve your objectives?

>Rick

Thank you all for your kind support. It means an awful lot!!!  I will
send around your suggestions to our farmer group.

Thank you,  Fortune, we would never have thought of the NY Times--
about 6000 miles away.  

Jack, we are considering something along those lines if we can muster
the energy.  The KCC has been in existence for 21 years. Poof!

I'll let you all know.

warmly,
Cea
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 More options Jan 23 2006, 3:15 pm
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From: r...@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu (D. Ross)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:15:49 GMT
Local: Mon, Jan 23 2006 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: sad day for Kona Farmers
| This new group is pro-blenders which frankly use 10% Kona and also use
| the Kona name--"Kona Blend".

I think that the legal definition for a "Kona Blend" should be something
like, "95% of the time, a standard scoop of the beans should contain at
least 15% Kona".  (This will raise the requirement up to around 25% Kona in
the bag.)

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 More options Jan 23 2006, 3:18 pm
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From: "butch burton" <spacet...@wi.rr.com>
Date: 23 Jan 2006 12:18:53 -0800
Local: Mon, Jan 23 2006 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: sad day for Kona Farmers
Suggest starting your own group - let the blend crowd do their thing -
you have already done well with the web - people who want pure Kona
will never ever buy the blend BS.  The blend crowd has different goals
than do the farmers - let them sell their blend - move away from them -
wonder what the "blend" with - looks like a sanitized Kona Kai ploy.
Use the name of Kona to sell a lesser bean and make big money.

These people are not your friends as you have figured out.


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 More options Jan 23 2006, 4:18 pm
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From: Java Man <ri...@letterectomyTELUS.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:18:51 GMT
Local: Mon, Jan 23 2006 4:18 pm
Subject: Re: sad day for Kona Farmers
In article <43d5367b.10639018@localhost>, r...@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu
says...
> | This new group is pro-blenders which frankly use 10% Kona and also use
> | the Kona name--"Kona Blend".

> I think that the legal definition for a "Kona Blend" should be something
> like, "95% of the time, a standard scoop of the beans should contain at
> least 15% Kona".  (This will raise the requirement up to around 25% Kona in
> the bag.)

Hmmm.  Leaves room for a "Pure Kona Premium" strategy . . .  if the
premium growers are willing to get into the distribution business.

Something like: "Pure Premium Kona (TM)-- it's your guarantee that this
bag contains only premium Kona coffee beans, not some budget mix blended
to exploit Kona's reputation for exquisite aroma and flavor."

Rick


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 More options Jan 23 2006, 4:45 pm
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From: Danny <da...@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:45:31 +0000
Local: Mon, Jan 23 2006 4:45 pm
Subject: Re: sad day for Kona Farmers

Don't get discouraged - take the high ground.  When you take stock, I
hope you'll do all the things suggested here - seek public forum for
your concerns, establish the alternative, honest, pure council and
sell that.

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 More options Jan 23 2006, 4:29 pm
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From: "butch burton" <spacet...@wi.rr.com>
Date: 23 Jan 2006 13:29:15 -0800
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Subject: Re: sad day for Kona Farmers
Hmmm.  Leaves room for a "Pure Kona Premium" strategy . . .  if the
premium growers are willing to get into the distribution business.

"Something like: "Pure Premium Kona (TM)-- it's your guarantee that
this
bag contains only premium Kona coffee beans, not some budget mix
blended
to exploit Kona's reputation for exquisite aroma and flavor.""

Rick said

Wonder if the Kona growers can sell enough of their product via the web
and through high end green bean retailers web and brick and mortar to
keep their prices up.  Looks like the Kona Blend crowd would like to
pay less for the 10% Kona they are using.  The Pure Premium Kona
message would have to made pervasive enough to make users aware there
is a difference.  Yes this is a marketing war.


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