Where art comes from
Christine, Founder, Church of Chaos
> That's channeling. Whether I am channeling BT's, or the
>masterpiece plane of consciousness I have no idea, I don't have little
>beings talking to me in my head. Only demons flying me around in my
>dreams and they don't speak, they just show me things.
>
> When musical ditty's come to me, they come to me as a whole, when
>ideational ditty's come to me, they come to me as a whole.
>
> No difference. One ends up as a song on paper, the other ends up
>as a posting on clear-l.
My opinion: Thing itself (the song, the poem, etc.) is its own thing. It
wants to have existence in reality and creates itself. It's not channeled
from some other planet.
I've had this same talk with LaMMie.
I love the LaMMie authority invocation. Stay tuned for the Enid authority
invocation.
Christine
~~~~
"Live dangerously, communicate."
Christine, Founder, Church of Chaos
basic...@my-deja.com
>
> ~~~~
>
> "Live dangerously, communicate."
>
>
I'm not sure how true any of the above by Christine
and homer is true.But its certainly not the whole truth.
Beethoven laboured over his symphonies,revising ect.
Bruckner did even more so,and got his friends to add their
50 cents.
Even if one looks at the creation of a melody as
an inspiration,wherever from,look at the compositions
where someone borrowed a theme.The end result is
still a great creation.This also can apply to improvisation.
I'm not sure what sort of universe it is where a creation
causes a creater to create it.I dont think its this one.
Someone once said art is 1% inspiration,99% persperation.
This may not be absolutely true,but it contains truth.
living dangerously
basicbasic
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Lightnin
Well said bb, it is a labor of love though;) songs are
crafted, the vision is the inspiration, the craft is to capture it
a a form that will endure for the pleasure of others.
my two cents FWIW
Lightnin>
anon...@electra.lightlink.com
seemingly got complete operas out of nowhere. Didn't even write drafts
or make corrections, music went straight from his head onto the
finished master.
Well according to the movie "Amadeus" anyways.
I suspect though, that hardly anything written on earth is truly
original. The track is long and all kinds of fantastic aesthetic
creations have been done in the past.
basic...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> I'm not sure how true any of the above by Christine
>and homer is true.But its certainly not the whole truth.
>Beethoven laboured over his symphonies,revising ect.
>Bruckner did even more so,and got his friends to add their
>50 cents.
> Even if one looks at the creation of a melody as
>an inspiration,wherever from,look at the compositions
>where someone borrowed a theme.The end result is
>still a great creation.This also can apply to improvisation.
> I'm not sure what sort of universe it is where a creation
>causes a creater to create it.I dont think its this one.
> Someone once said art is 1% inspiration,99% persperation.
>This may not be absolutely true,but it contains truth.
>
> living dangerously
>
> basicbasic
anon...@electra.lightlink.com
[Salieri, talking about Mozart] "It's as if he was taking a dictation
straight from God."
anon...@electra.lightlink.com
thread "Re: Where art comes from", on Thu, 18 May 2000 14:10:54 GMT, :
ho...@lightlink.com wrote:
>> >That's channeling. Whether I am channeling BT's, or the
>> >masterpiece plane of consciousness I have no idea,
>> >I don't have little beings talking to me in my head.
>> >Only demons flying me around in my
>> >dreams and they don't speak, they just show me things.
>> >
>> > When musical ditty's come to me, they come
>> >to me as a whole, when ideational ditty's come to me,
>> >they come to me as a whole.
>> >
>> > No difference. One ends up as a song on paper,
>> > the other ends up as a posting on clear-l.
"Christine, Founder, Church of Chaos" wrote:
>> My opinion: Thing itself (the song, the poem, etc.)
>>is its own thing. It
>> wants to have existence in reality and creates itself. It's not
>>channeled from some other planet.
>>
>> I've had this same talk with LaMMie.
>>
>> I love the LaMMie authority invocation. Stay tuned for the Enid
>authority
>> invocation.
>>
>> Christine
>>
>> ~~~~
>>
>> "Live dangerously, communicate."
If Homer and Christine would shorten
their line lengths, their threads would
actually be readable in reiterations,
and save LOTS of work reformatting.
BasicBasic burbled:
> I'm not sure how true any of the
>above by Christine and homer is true.
So you think they are lying to you?
>But its certainly not the whole truth.
It is THEIR whole truth, NOT yours.
>Beethoven laboured over his symphonies,revising ect.
Beethoven was Beethoven.
Homer was not Beethoven,
although Operandi Mozart.
Christine was not Beethoven either.
>Bruckner did even more so,and got his friends to add their 50 cents.
Also not relevant to what Homer or Christine said.
Apparently, they have their own 50 sents*ability.
> Even if one looks at the creation of a melody as
>an inspiration,wherever from,look at the compositions
>where someone borrowed a theme.The end result is
>still a great creation.This also can apply to improvisation.
OK. Not relevant.
> I'm not sure what sort of universe it is where a creation
>causes a creater to create it.I dont think its this one.
NO . . . it's Christine's!
> Someone once said art is 1% inspiration,99% persperation.
But it was NOT Homer,
who said the opposite!
>This may not be absolutely true,but it contains truth.
FOR those who struggle to create,
*NOT* for the Mozarts of Creation.
> living dangerously
>
> basicbasic
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From: anon...@electra.lightlink.com <anon...@electra.lightlink.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <cle...@lightlink.com>
Subject: Re: Where art comes from
>That's true about Beethoven, but Mozart was not like that. He
>seemingly got complete operas out of nowhere. Didn't even write drafts
>or make corrections, music went straight from his head onto the
>finished master.
>
>Well according to the movie "Amadeus" anyways.
>
>I suspect though, that hardly anything written on earth is truly
>original. The track is long and all kinds of fantastic aesthetic
>creations have been done in the past.
Does'nt really matter if it's original KP, sometimes
it's like restoring a 57 chevy, maybe you hot rod it a bit.
Sometimes you go for showroom, sometimes ya just drive
that sucker around fer the fun of it.
Sometimes you play demolition derby and just butcher
the song mercilessly just to shake off the cobwebs of
reverance.
aesthetics is a band, it can be a wide rushing river or
a trickle to the sea, apreciation is the gate by which
that flow is either expanded or contracted.
Participation on any level brings about apreciation
tapping yer foot is the testing of the waters, if it just right
you ease into letting it fill up the space around you.
a giggle a shake a wiggle ;) pretty soon yer out ther shakin it
music is a celebration at any level.
Sometimes its slow sweet dance and others a feverish pitch
of jubilance.
In short it's fun ;)
Lightnin
Lightnin
>
>basic...@my-deja.com wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure how true any of the above by Christine
>>and homer is true.But its certainly not the whole truth.
>>Beethoven laboured over his symphonies,revising ect.
>>Bruckner did even more so,and got his friends to add their
>>50 cents.
>> Even if one looks at the creation of a melody as
>>an inspiration,wherever from,look at the compositions
>>where someone borrowed a theme.The end result is
>>still a great creation.This also can apply to improvisation.
>> I'm not sure what sort of universe it is where a creation
>>causes a creater to create it.I dont think its this one.
>> Someone once said art is 1% inspiration,99% persperation.
>>This may not be absolutely true,but it contains truth.
>>
>> living dangerously
>>
>> basicbasic
Homer Wilson Smith
>My opinion: Thing itself (the song, the poem, etc.) is its own thing. It
>wants to have existence in reality and creates itself. It's not channeled
>from some other planet.
Yes, I can agree with this. Channeling can come from direct
contact with the all that is, or from others that have contact
with the all that is.
Homer
xine
Basic-Basic said:
> I'm not sure how true any of the above by Christine
>and homer is true.But its certainly not the whole truth.
>Beethoven laboured over his symphonies,revising ect.
>Bruckner did even more so,and got his friends to add their
>50 cents.
Oh sure, it can be an incredible amount of work. The poem or whatever will
drag me out of bed, there's no peace until it's born the way it wants to be
born. I add to it, change it - it calls me a liar every hour on the hour, chases
me down on a fast motorcycle. There's no changing your mind in the middle of
childbirth - it will be born and slouch toward Bethlehem.
A really good example of this is Kubla Khan, the poem by Coleridge. He got up
and struggled and wrote all but the last "Abyssinian maid" section. He was
up for hours, exhausted before it started but wrote what he could. Finally,
he went back to bed and more started to come but he didn't honor it. When he
woke up, he could only remember a glimmer of it and wrote the Abyssinian maid
part. He mourned the part he missed his whole life.
If you go read the poem, you'll see the difference between the rich tapestry
of the *inspired* (and I don't at all mean by that word that it is channeled
or comes easily - it is definitely 99% perspiration) of the part he wrote.
Really *listen* to the way the words flow, as well as see the images. I think
you'll see what I mean.
Not *every* work is so arduous. But writing is difficult *for me* - sometimes
more and sometimes less, yet I couldn't get along without it.
I probably could make the 10,000 words a day quota. But there's no reason to
think I wouldn't produce something on the calibre of _Battlefield Earth_.
Homer Wilson Smith
> I'm not sure how true any of the above by Christine
>and homer is true.But its certainly not the whole truth.
>Beethoven laboured over his symphonies,revising ect.
I go over my postings many times, each time like a comb
through tangle hair, the original vision is better presented,
and more is elucidated. This does not in any way deny
that perception that I did not write it but merely scribed it
on multiple passes.
> basicbasic
You speak as if you have little experience is the inspirational
side of art yourself? Surely that can not be right.
Homer
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Homer Wilson Smith
>Well said bb, it is a labor of love though;) songs are
>crafted, the vision is the inspiration, the craft is to capture it
>a a form that will endure for the pleasure of others.
Yeah tune smithing.
Sometimes you get real odd situations where the tune smith comes
up with a better original than the original author.
Long time ago Wagner wrote Tristan and Isolde, a sad opera about
two star crossed lovers, and through it there is a haunting *HINT* of
a melody that Wagner either chose or didn't have the perspicacity to
fully develope. He wanders all around it, but never hits it on the
head.
Long time later, like a few years ago, I found a piano rendition
of this melody complete and fully developed and much more moving than
the original. Actually I found the piano rendition first, fell madly
head over heals in love with it, and searched for ages for its source,
since I only got it off the radio.
Finally by accident I found its echos in the Wagner opera, man
was that disappointing.
Homer
>my two cents FWIW
>Lightnin>
>> living dangerously
>>
>> basicbasic
>>
>>
Homer Wilson Smith
That's what a young violinist (girl) said about Brahms.
I can't stand Brahms, but each to their own, her message came
across bright and clear and I saw the truth to it.
Homer
Homer Wilson Smith
>A really good example of this is Kubla Khan, the poem by Coleridge. He got up
>and struggled and wrote all but the last "Abyssinian maid" section. He was
>up for hours, exhausted before it started but wrote what he could. Finally,
>he went back to bed and more started to come but he didn't honor it. When he
>woke up, he could only remember a glimmer of it and wrote the Abyssinian maid
>part. He mourned the part he missed his whole life.
Yep, the same with me. The only thing worse is failing to save
the work after it is done or getting it erased. There is no recovery
for that. People can die and come back, but the written word is gone
for ever.
Homer
ladyv
I am no authority on this. When I am moved to write a poem or
paint a picture I DO entirely bypass the analytical aspect and allow it to
pour from my soul. When I push to create as an artisan does the work lacks
soul, seems lacking in life force and seems to me to lack the same merit.
And yet.. I have never felt I was channelling from some other source,
the creation flows from me.
Touching one's own essence is the key to creation for me. That essence
is in synergetic connection with infinity. I am not always in that state of
connection.
Homer spoke of the being's themesong and I got goosebumps. He hit my
reality, the core of what life is all about for me. The essence of who one
IS expressed in music, in dance, in prose, poetry or any other medium
touches a chord in me that resonates beyond any other sovereign desire. It
is why I am a clearing practitioner. I yearn to unlock that door for self
and others. It is our essential magic!
Love,
Enid
> At 5/17/00 06:49 PM, ho...@lightlink.com wrote:
>
>
> > That's channeling. Whether I am channeling BT's, or the
> >masterpiece plane of consciousness I have no idea, I don't have little
> >beings talking to me in my head. Only demons flying me around in my
> >dreams and they don't speak, they just show me things.
> >
> > When musical ditty's come to me, they come to me as a whole, when
> >ideational ditty's come to me, they come to me as a whole.
> >
> > No difference. One ends up as a song on paper, the other ends up
> >as a posting on clear-l.
>
> My opinion: Thing itself (the song, the poem, etc.) is its own thing. It
> wants to have existence in reality and creates itself. It's not channeled
> from some other planet.
>
Kenneth G. Urquhart
> Hello,
>
> I am no authority on this.
Yes, Enid, right. Sure. Anything you say.
When I am moved to write a poem or
> paint a picture I DO entirely bypass the analytical aspect and allow it to
> pour from my soul. When I push to create as an artisan does the work lacks
> soul, seems lacking in life force and seems to me to lack the same merit.
Well, now, let's not run down the artisan. When in a very old church or
cathedral, one is surrounded by the works of artisans, people who did their
work usually to order. In some of those old places one can be overwhelmed
by the soul-ness, by the life force those artisans poured into their work
and
which still pulses there.
>
> And yet.. I have never felt I was channelling from some other source,
> the creation flows from me.
I agree.
>
> Touching one's own essence is the key to creation for me. That
essence
> is in synergetic connection with infinity.
Absolutely.
I am not always in that state of
> connection.
We acknowledge your honesty and modesty; noone with a body
ever is always in that state.
> Homer spoke of the being's themesong and I got goosebumps. He hit my
> reality, the core of what life is all about for me. The essence of who one
> IS expressed in music, in dance, in prose, poetry or any other medium
> touches a chord in me that resonates beyond any other sovereign desire. It
> is why I am a clearing practitioner. I yearn to unlock that door for self
> and others. It is our essential magic!
Yes! I adore the artist! The artist is next to God. Homer, the heathen,
places
the scientist next to God, and the artist second. No wonder he's in trouble.
I'm sure you can handle that.
Love,
K
ho...@lightlink.com
ladyv (la...@dynamism.org) wrote:
> And yet.. I have never felt I was channelling from some other source,
>the creation flows from me.
I have always felt the creation flows from something bigger than
me, I am in awe of it.
> Homer spoke of the being's themesong and I got goosebumps.
Yes, one's Theme Song sings the song of *TRIUMPH*, of absolute
satisfaction with the excellence of Self.
It can not be surpassed in one's own eyes, and our purpose for
manifestation is to share our song with others, as every melody we
write, everything we do is woven with the echos of our own Theme Song.
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>ladyv (la...@dynamism.org) wrote:
>> And yet.. I have never felt I was channelling from some other source,
>>the creation flows from me.
>
> I have always felt the creation flows from something bigger than
>me, I am in awe of it.
>
>> Homer spoke of the being's themesong and I got goosebumps.
>
> Yes, one's Theme Song sings the song of *TRIUMPH*, of absolute
>satisfaction with the excellence of Self.
>
> It can not be surpassed in one's own eyes, and our purpose for
>manifestation is to share our song with others, as every melody we
>write, everything we do is woven with the echos of our own Theme Song.
It seems then that violation or ignorance of ones theme song is the
ultimate ruinous activity. that is suddenly real to me.
I have a client, a really decent guy, that for some reason I am
unwilling to collect a debt from..and he'd pay if I asked him no
problem, its just that he's having tough times, and he did me a favor,
and he was decent to me and now I dont want to collect.
But that did not seem right... it was not in context with my 'theme
song' ... its like you say, a bit more moving than that. One can
it seems make that step... and carry the theme to new higher levels.
Phil Scott
Kenneth G. Urquhart
But it's the art that Enid is talking about, I think.
Anyway, we let you get away with it for now.
K
> Kenneth G. Urquhart (u...@lightlink.com) wrote:
>
> >Yes! I adore the artist! The artist is next to God. Homer, the heathen,
> >places
> >the scientist next to God, and the artist second. No wonder he's in
trouble.
>
Homer sez:
> God Spirit Creation Religion
> Man Mind Discovery Science
> Woman Heart Expression Art
> Child Body Trade Business
>
> One has to discover how one's tools work before one can do art.
>
> Creation is at the NOT KNOW level, this is the All That Is, that
> knows everything, creating a universe of beings who NOT KNOW and must
> FIND OUT. The whole thing of course is art of its own, but this is
> not the art that Adore is talking about.
>
> Science is at the FIND OUT AND KNOW ABOUT level.
> Art is at the EXPRESS what you know level.
> Business is at the TRADE in those expressions level.
>
> First the child needs to learn how to run the body, then he has
> to learn how to run his heart, that's where the impulse to art comes
> from, then he has to learn to run his mind in order to accomplish the
> art, that is science. Then he masters creation and total
> responsibility for the whole shebang and moves on to the next level
> up.
>
> Or in the case of Christine, down.
>
> However Adore was written mainly to make women mad, so one
> can't take it too seriously.
>
> Homer
>
Kenneth G. Urquhart
....snip
> > Yes! I adore the artist! The artist is next to God. Homer, the heathen,
> > places
> > the scientist next to God, and the artist second. No wonder he's in
> trouble.
>
He posted an explanation which just saves him from imminent comm ev.
> > I'm sure you can handle that.
>
> Can't we have an artistic scientist?
Einstein played the violin, but they say he couldn't count and keep time.
>
> Please Urq...make room in the universe ;-)
Oh, all right. Just for you. Under the stairs.
>
> Surely in infinity all boundaries can be crossed.
Surely in infinity no boundaries can be kept. Isn't the scientist concerned
always
with extending boundaries, and the artist with playing with them? The
scientist
works from within, the artist from without.
Love to you,
Ken U
Homer Wilson Smith
First thing you need to realize is that I am not Adore, and Adore is
not an expression of my views. I find Adore difficult and contradictory.
Yes I 'wrote' it, much as I write anything, and I HAD to write it to get
myself out of my eternal hatred of women, to even be willing associate
with them again, it is the record of ideas I had to conceive in order to
see the game they were playing in my universe and regain respect for
myself again.
This has nothing to do whatsoever with whether Adore is true,
ether for myself or for others. It is just what had to be considered,
looked upon etc.
This is in part why I separate Adore from myself, so I can
look at it objectively just as I look at any other attempt to
codify the truths of existence.
Homer
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On Fri, 19 May 2000, Kenneth G. Urquhart wrote:
> All right. "...this is not the art that Adore is talking about."
> But it's the art that Enid is talking about, I think.
> Anyway, we let you get away with it for now.
> K
>
> > Kenneth G. Urquhart (u...@lightlink.com) wrote:
> >
> > >Yes! I adore the artist! The artist is next to God. Homer, the heathen,
> > >places
> > >the scientist next to God, and the artist second. No wonder he's in
> trouble.
> >
>
basic...@my-deja.com
Homer Wilson Smith <ho...@lightlink.com> wrote:
> basic...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > I'm not sure how true any of the above by Christine
> >and homer is true.But its certainly not the whole truth.
> >Beethoven laboured over his symphonies,revising ect.
>
> I go over my postings many times, each time like a comb
> through tangle hair, the original vision is better presented,
> and more is elucidated. This does not in any way deny
> that perception that I did not write it but merely scribed it
> on multiple passes.
>
> > basicbasic
>
> You speak as if you have little experience is the inspirational
> side of art yourself? Surely that can not be right.
>
> Homer
>
Hi Homer,
It isn't right.I spent a few years doing
painting,another few years learning to play An Indian
instrument,the Vina[something like a Sitar].I got good enough to
improvise,albeit with appaling technical skills.But it was a real joy
to do.These experiences taught me a lot more about the creative process
than any number of books I read.
The first painting I did was"inspired" by my grandmother
asking to paint a picture for her birthday.I initially had some
sort of vision that would suit a chocolate box.The sun setting over a
sea with a rock in foreground.9 months later I finished it,working
every day.It was a learning process as well as a painting process
I'd paint a bit here,altered a bit there,then had to redo something
else for balance,working with structure and microstructure.
Although the basic,sun,sea,rock stayed the picture went through many
changes,ending up very dark and looking though it was from another
planet.There could well be wholetrack influence.
As far as I know this is a typical productive process,slowed
from technical inexperience.Throughout this process I was hands on
all the way in all decisions made.
The initial vision was trite.The final result wasn't,at least
for me.
This idea of channeling is newish to me.Is the person
being channeled through aware of this?Has anyone here any experience of
it?
basic...@my-deja.com
Homer Wilson Smith <ho...@lightlink.com> wrote:
> basic...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > I'm not sure how true any of the above by Christine
> >and homer is true.But its certainly not the whole truth.
> >Beethoven laboured over his symphonies,revising ect.
>
> I go over my postings many times, each time like a comb
> through tangle hair, the original vision is better presented,
> and more is elucidated. This does not in any way deny
> that perception that I did not write it but merely scribed it
> on multiple passes.
>
> > basicbasic
>
> You speak as if you have little experience is the inspirational
> side of art yourself? Surely that can not be right.
>
> Homer
>
Hi Homer,
have had some experience.For a while I painted,another time I
studied indian music and learnt enough to improvise.[with
bad technical skills]They were wonderful experiences.
My first painting was "inspired" by grandmothers request
I paint her a picture.The initial vision was a sunset over the sea
with small island to the fore.Suitable for a chocolate box.
9 months later it was finished with me working on it every
day.[also a learning process]I'd alter a bit here,then to balance it a
change elsewhere,and so on working with structure and microstructure
The end result although sun,island, sea,remained was very different
to the trite conception,was very dark and didn't seem to be from this
planet.All the decisions along the way were made by me.
This seems opposite to your experience,although the actual
process is broadly similar.Who was making decisions about what
to change?Is the original vision very clear and you just labour
to get that right?
basicbasic
basic...@my-deja.com
basic...@my-deja.com
One grows up with a particular performance of a piece
and this is imprinted and acts as a hidden standard.
Every other performance seems wrong.
You've done this in probably the most extreme fashion.
Tristan is probably the most difficult work to transcribe
to piano,not being very well suited to a percussion instrument,and is
given as a task for composition students
Wagner started the breakdown of traditional tonality,or key,
leading to modern atonal stuff from Schoenberg ect.
The wander around and never hits the head was deliberate.
I dont think that comes out so well on the keyboard.
Looks like the Opera has been spoilt for you.
basic...@my-deja.com
"xine" <nos...@altavista.net> wrote:
>
> Basic-Basic said:
> > I'm not sure how true any of the above by Christine
> >and homer is true.But its certainly not the whole truth.
> >Beethoven laboured over his symphonies,revising ect.
> >50 cents.
>
> Oh sure, it can be an incredible amount of work. The poem or
whatever will
> drag me out of bed, there's no peace until it's born the way it wants
to be
> born. I add to it, change it - it calls me a liar every hour on the
hour, chases
> me down on a fast motorcycle. There's no changing your mind in the
middle of
> childbirth - it will be born and slouch toward Bethlehem.
>
He got up
> and struggled and wrote all but the last "Abyssinian maid" section.
He was
> up for hours, exhausted before it started but wrote what he could.
Finally,
> he went back to bed and more started to come but he didn't honor it.
When he
> woke up, he could only remember a glimmer of it and wrote the
Abyssinian maid
> part. He mourned the part he missed his whole life.
>
tapestry
> of the *inspired* (and I don't at all mean by that word that it is
channeled
> or comes easily - it is definitely 99% perspiration) of the part he
wrote.
>
> Really *listen* to the way the words flow, as well as see the
images. I think
> you'll see what I mean.
>
> Not *every* work is so arduous. But writing is difficult *for me* -
sometimes
> more and sometimes less, yet I couldn't get along without it.
>
> I probably could make the 10,000 words a day quota. But there's no
reason to
> think I wouldn't produce something on the calibre of _Battlefield
Earth_.
>
> http://netwinsite.com
>
Hi Xine,
I have trouble with poetry and to some extent
literature.Its very nice to have someone elses enthusiasm
and input to help learn and understand some more,I shall read this.
When the poem first comes to you,how does it appear to
you?How does it change?
Perhaps you'd like to post some poems?
Richard Platek
>
> and I start writing.
> Jane hates this because I am nonexistent for her when I am in this
> mood, I just have to write and not let anything interrupt or the
> music of the words will be lost.
>
> Homer
>
Wooolfie,
I have read things you have written in this space (the one you describe)
above (I think) and I have enjoyed them so much. Jane will forgive all
when you fly to receive the Nobel PP.
Lion