(reposted full text) Past Lives Notes #1: the GE

[relayer]

My first attempt to post this failed; because of a misplaced
dot my post got cut. As a friend told me he got only the
second part of it, I repost it all, in case someone wanted to
read it entirely and couldn't.
Sorry for the noise! Mea culpa.

martin

Harry Jay Nelson <hne...@barint.on.ca> wrote:
>***** Past Lives Notes #1: the GE ***************
>(snip)
A. Theory:
1.
>
>3. People who have worked with scientology or related clearing
>techniques have expanded their spiritual theory to involve a more
>complex view of the spiritual aspect of a person. At the next level of
>complexity, the spiritual aspect is seen as involving, not one, but two
>spiritual beings: the genetic entity (GE) and the thetan. The GE is the
>being that organizes and runs the body biologically, and the thetan is
>the being that the person most identifies with. According to this
>theory the person is a composite of physical body, a GE, and a thetan.

2. Harry, I didn't say the GE is a being.
Let's have a look: the GE is "that beingness not dissimilar to the thetan
which has carried forward and developed the body from its earliest
moments along the evolutionary line on Earth (...). It has no real
personality, it is not the"I" of the body. This is the "mind" of an animal, a
dog or a cat or a cow." (R.1)

and from L.Kin's "Pied Pipers of Heaven":
"In contrast to a spirit, an entity is but a ridge. A ridge is a mass of
mental energy containing all data of the incident when it was formed,
including the voice tracks of the people involved. Everybody makes ridges
at times of high stress, loss or physical danger. Ridges bother one long
after the actual incident is over; sometimes they appear as nagging
mental image pictures which distract one or pull one into a daydream."
(R. 2)

3. from the back cover of Dr. Rupert Sheldrake's book "the Presence
of the Past": "(...) Dr Sheldrake's hypothesis is that memory is
inherent in nature - all natural systems from crystals to man inherit a
collective memory of their kind. Thus, rabbits are rabid-shaped not only
because their DNA encodes their proteins, but also because nature has a
'morphic field', in their case, a rabbit-habit, that informs their growth
and instinctive behaviour. (...) this inherent memory depends on 'morphic
resonance', a process that involves action in both space and time. Far from
being stored as material traces within our brains, our own memories
result from our tuning in to ourselves in the past". (R.3)

5. Sheldrake on past lives: "Morphic resonance might also provide a new
interpretation for a relatively rare but well-documented phenomenon:
memory of past lives. Some young children spontaneously claim to
remember a previous life, and sometimes give details about the
life and death of the previous person whom they claim to be. Careful
research has shown that some of the details they could give could not
have been known to them by normal means. (E.g., Stevenson (1974)) (R.3)

6. and Sheldrake goes on: "Those who accept the evidence for memories
of previous lives usually explain it in terms of reincarnation or rebirth.
However, the hypothesis of formative causation# provides a different
perspective: in such cases a person may for some reason tune in by morphic
resonance to a person who lived in the past. This might help to account
for the transfer of memories without our having to suppose that the
present person *is* the other person whose memories he or she can
pick up" (R.3)

# "The hypothesis of formative causation, which the rest of this book
explores, starts from the assumption that morphogenetic fields are
physically real (...) Each kind of cell, tissue, organ, and organism has
its own kind of field. These fields shape and organise developing
micro-organisms, plants, and animals, and stabilise the forms of adult
organisms". (R.3)

7. "all similar past patterns of activity contribute to the morphic field (...)
Jung called such habitual patterns archetypes and thought that they
were built up by collective repetition: 'There are as many archetypes
as there are typical situations in life. Endless repetition has engraved
these experiences into our psychic constitution... When a situation
occurs which corresponds to a given archetype, that archetype becomes
activated' (Jung, (1959), as quoted in (R.3))"(R.3)

8. what did Hubbard say? "The common denominator of a group is the
reactive bank. Thetans without banks have different responses. They
only have their banks in common. They agree then only on bank principles.
Person to person the bank is identical" (R.4).

9. L. Kin concludes: "So strictly speaking, there are no "past" lives for a
thetan. Existing as an immortal individual, he continues along an unbroken
line, sometimes with a body, sometimes without. The GE, however, ceases
existing after body death, merges with the GE Pool and "drops down" as a
new entity at the moment of fertilization" (R.2)

10. I know it's a lot of theory! I'll discuss it in a moment with an exemple
at hand. But first:

B. Correction:
11.
>5. Some people introduce greater levels of complexity in that they see
>the thetan as being one of even more spiritual beings which are
>connected to the body.

Some people do. The theory of 'thetan - ridges ('charged' pictures) -
body', while part of the ridges belongs to a 'shared pool' devoted
solely to survival, doesn't introduce more complexity. It may as
well give answers to questions regarding past lives.

> With these higher levels of complexity the
>situation can become very confusing and very unreal.

agreed.
>
>6. Martin <mar...@arcadis.be> commented (3 June 1996) that:
>>
>>...So I would not be as positive as you are
>>about past lives being only pictures of the thetan.
>>
>My first response to Martin's comment is that I was using the word
>"thetan" to have a more simple meaning and not to differentiate other
>spiritual entities within the body.
agreed.
>
12.
>7. My second response to Martin's comment is that, for the example I
>gave, this distinction is not an important one. In PL #4 I said "I
>recall a past life incident in which Sherry, the thetan, played an
>important role. What I'd like to now do is to go to Sherry and ask: do
>you recall this incident of 200 years ago in which you and I
>interacted?"
>
Look: I won't discuss the "when Harry meets Sherry" story.
It involves Harry whom Harry refers to as 'I'. It looks like it's a
subjective experience, and if such is the case all answers lie within
Harry, Sherry, and all concerned. I won't and I even don't want to
evaluate the data given. The story *is* like Harry says it is.

>According to my current awareness, my memories of past
>lives on earth are mine, as a thetan, not my GE's, contrary to what
>Martin is suggesting. I will give my reasons for this in another post.

I did only suggest a possible explanation for the questions Harry asked.

If Harry says 'According to my current awareness, my memories of past
lives on earth are mine, as a thetan, not my GE's' - it is true, and I have
no doubts he can give his reasons for this in another post.

C. Statement:

13. in <31B8E3...@barint.on.ca>Past Lives #4: Mutual Incidents,
Harry wrote:
++ It is the thetan, not the body, that has lived more than one life.

This is a statement (A) of an 'absolute'. As such, in order to evaluate it
the opposite has to be considered too: (B)"it's the body, not the thetan,
that has lived more than one life". Otherwise one would accept a datum
without inspecting it.
Please note that if Harry had affirmed statement (B), I could as well
defend statement (A).

(It's off topic, but while I'm at it, statements like "Scientology is
good" "Scientology is bad" "auditing is good" "auditing is bad"
"auditors disconnected from the Church are squirrels", you name it,
are statements of 'absolutes' and as such give way to endless discussions
about why the opposite is not true. Besides they have the liability to
trigger the "I'm right/you're wrong" mechanisms. )

Even if someone states "past lives don't exist!" it's an 'absolute'
truth. It has to be acknowledged, and if one wanted to discuss about it
one would have to find (at least) one reason why the opposite statement
could be true too.
Anyway - the answers lay between the two opposites, above that we
have speculation and below the playing of a game (real life)

D. Illustration:

14. Let's illustrate the points 2 to 9. "... Miyamoto Musashi was born
in the village called Miyamoto in the Province Mimasaka in 1584." (...)
"Whether he was urged to pursue Kendo by his uncle, or whether his
agressive nature led him to it, we do not know, but it's recorded that
he slew a man in single combat when he was just thirteen. The opponent
was Arima Kihei, a samurai of the Shinto Ryu school of military arts,
skilled with sword and spear. The boy threw the man to the ground, and
beat him about the head with a stick when he tried to rise."(...)
"When he was sixteen (...) he left home to embark on the 'Warrior
Pilgrimage' which saw him victor in scores of contests and which took
him to war six times, until he finally settled down at the age of fifty,
having reached the end of his search for reason."(...)
"Musashi's best-known duel was in the seventeenth year of Keicho,
1612 "(...)" His opponent was Sasaki Kojiro, a young man who had
developed a strong fencing technique known as Tsubame-gaeshi or
'swallow counter', inspired by the motion of a swallow's tail in flight."
(...)"Kojiro drew his long sword, a fine blade by Nagamitsu of Bizen, and
threw away his scabbard. 'You have no more need of that,' said Musashi
as he rushed forward with his sword held to one side. Kojiro was
provoked into making the first cut and Musashi dashed upward at his
blade, bringing the oar down on Kojiro's head." (...)
"It was about this time that Musashi stopped ever using real swords
in duels. He was invincible, and from now on he devoted himself to the
search for perfect understanding by way of Kendo."(...)
"He produced masterpieces of ink painting, probably more highly
valued by the Japanese than the ink paintings of any other."(...)
"In 1643, he retired to a life of seclusion in a cave called 'Reigendo'.
(...) Here he wrote 'Go Rin No Sho' ('A book of five rings') adressed to
his pupil Teruo Nobuyuki, a few weeks before his death on the
nineteenth of May, 1645." (R.5)

E. Hypothesis:

15. Let's suppose, for the purpose of this demonstration, that
Musashi the being (thetan) exits the stage here, at least let's say he is
not interested in fighting anymore. After all 'He was invincible' and
fighting was no game anymore. As 'he produced masterpieces of ink
painting', I doubt he had a game here as well, unless he became
interested in French Impressionism later on. But the fact he retired
when his body was still alive could mean, having achieved his goal, he
exited the physical universe after the death of his body.

(I doubt he retired *because he committed destructive acts*, as he played
the game by the rules of samurais he and others agreed with. Thetans are
interested in creating effects, the mere survival of the body is the
concern of the GE. His conduct was then 'ethical', and his integrity high.)

16. At his death, his GE (ridges) joined the 'pool' of ridges, and his
experience permitted to lift the art and mastery of swords even to
greater heights.
"(...) Musashi wandered over Japan, becoming a legend in his own time.
We find mention of his name and stories of his prowess in registers,
diaries, on monuments, and in folk memory from Tokyo to Kyushu"(R.5)
His experience became part of the Japanese culture.

17. In order to illustrate a subject that might be a bit difficult to grasp,
let's use an analogy: let's suppose Internet existed all the time, and
Musashi and Kojiro had their web page, paid in advance forever. (Or paid
anytime an user consulting it feeds energy - money - to it). And nobody
was cancelling web pages nor posts, just as none would erase pictures
from the GE's 'pool'. (or is there someone who would?)
Musashi and Kojiro gone one would still be able to get information on
the 'Way of the Sword' anytime one consulted a database. With the GE it's
a bit different as the information becomes available when one has
affinity with, one tunes in to the subject at hand. One receives then
the pictures, sound, and, as an extra bonus, emotions and pain as well.

F. Questions:

18. James, a businessman, is posted on his new post in Japan.
While visiting a dojo, he's impressed by the way the Japanese handle
swords. He get's the impression that if he mastered this art, he
would become 'invincible, and from now on he could devote himself
to the search for perfect understanding'. He sees pictures of samurais
fighting in his mind.
Questions:
-Is he Musashi?
or - did he tune in to the ridges hanging around, maintained by the
efforts of the practicing pupils in order to master that art?

19. James studies the 'Way of the Sword'. When practicing with his
master, James shouts, as it's part of the moves. His master says:
'You have no more need of that', then James 'was provoked into
making the first cut and the Master dashed upward at his blade,
bringing the oar down on James' head' and James feels a headache.
The master, of course, didn't touch him at all.
Question:
- Is James' master Musashi?
- Is James Kojiro?
or - did they tune in to the ridges hanging around

20. Back to the States, James finds himself a dojo. He's now a
Master himself. However, one day he's approached by a boy in his
teens, who asks him to practice. Quickly 'the boy threw James to the
ground, and beat him about the head with a stick when he tried to rise'.
No worry, this time there were no real blows either. James felt however
the pain, like if he was beaten to death.
Question:
- Is the boy Musashi?
- Is James Arima Kihei?

21. The boy, who has in fact 'total recall' of his past lives, comes to
James: "Hi, I'm Arima Kihei. I recognised you, you are Musashi. I
practiced a lot since I met you in 1600, as I showed you. As I have nothing
else to learn in this field, please teach me what you know about
ink painting..."
- Should James say 'all right, here we go...'
- Should he say 'No, but I remember, you borrowed some money from me,
it's about 1000 bucks plus interests, it's time to pay now...' rendering
the whole idea of past lives less attractive to the boy.

>10. On a lighter note, please be aware that you do not have to worry
>about any of the different spiritual entities that may reside within my
>body. If you e-mail me a message, the essential me, the pure spiritual
>essence whom I most identify with, will get your message. Magic occurs
>despite all of the complexities.
>
Magic does and I don't worry. I'm glad you are there and I appreciate your
posts very much.
They are coherent and are a very good direct approach to the complex
subject of past lives. I'm waiting for the next ones.

>---------------------------------- Copyright 1996 by Harry Jay Nelson

With much respect. martin.

R.1: Scientology and Dianetics Technical Dictionary.
R.2: L.Kin's "Pied Pipers of Heaven", Scienterra.
R.3: Dr. Rupert Sheldrake's book "the Presence of the Past", Fontana.
R.4: Bulletin, "Keeping Scientology Working".
R.5: "A Book of Five Rings", Miyamoto Musashi, Flamingo published by
Fontana Paperbacks, taken from the Translator's Introduction.