ADORE-L POLICY LETTERS 1-7
Homer Wilson Smith
The following are the 7 basic policy letters that I ran ADORE-L, the only
one that applies to clear-l or a.c.t is the 50/50 rule, and honesty in debate.
Prove it cases and believe it cases and dharma criminals are not welcome.
Homer
A D O R E - L P O L I C Y L E T T E R
APL No. 1 of 1 MARCH 89
HIGH TREASON
The following actions will be considered High Treason against the
ADORE-L list and the people on it.
1.) Failure to read in their entirety the list charter and all
present and future ADORE-L Policy Letters (APL No. x) IF such failure
leads to serious upset that would have otherwise been avoided.
The charter is available from the listserver.
TELL LISTSERV AT UALTAVM REVIEW ADORE-L
The APL's will soon be available there too.
Do not confuse ADORE-L POLICY LETTERS with ADORIAN VIEW LETTERS
(AVL No. x). ADORE-L POLICY LETTERS make the list safe. Therefore you
must read them. ADORIAN VIEW LETTERS make the list dangerous. Trash
them as you see fit.
2.) Communicating with or complaining by any means whatsoever,
whether electronic, written or verbal, except by direct posting to the
ADORE-L list, to any Authority, University Administrator or Bitnet
personnel in a negative or derogatory manner about the ADORE-L list, the
people on it, the material discussed herein, with or without the
intention to harm the list or the people on it or to restrict their
access to computing resources or the ADORE-l list, without first
communicating directly with, ONE AT A TIME and in the following order:
Homer Wilson Smith CTM at CORNELLC, (list owner)
Eric Thomas ERIC at CEARN, (writer of listserve).
It is not acceptable behavior to deny a person access to computing
resources because of what they say or how they say it. It is one thing
to kick someone off a list, it is quite another to kick them off the
system. If you do not take action against this kind of bevavior in a
swift and clear cut manner, then you will not build up the attitudes
that this kind of behavior is unacceptable and one day it will be done
to you.
What goes around, comes around. If you let the cat out of the bag
it may come and sit in your lap.
Cornell University is not responsible for the existance of ADORE-L
and does not host the list. As for complaining to Cornell
Administrators, some are already on the list. These people rub
shoulders with the highest brass every day, so you can be sure that they
will be aware of what transpires on this list.
For your information, I am very well known at Cornell. From time
to time I have written letters to EVERYONE at Cornell from the top down,
including IBM and NSF, letters that would make your hair stand on end.
Cornell is a very conservative institution as befits a major world
center for super computing. However it is a multi national community
that is capable of tolerating multi national views.
As Ezra Cornell said, 'I would found an institution where anyone
can find an education in any subject.'
I make Cornell nervous, but I am still here. As long as we keep to
the 50 percent rule (see APL No. 3) ADORE-L should thrive.
We look to you to give ADORE-L a good name and to get as many
intelligent, open minded people of good intent on this list as possible.
So let's get educated.
Homer
A D O R E - L P O L I C Y L E T T E R
APL No. 2 3 MARCH 1989
FAIR GAME.
If you post to the ADORE-L list, you become Fair Game on the list.
If you exercise your Right to post on ADORE-L, then you must
exercise your Duty to take what comes back to you within the constraints
of the 50 percent rule.
Even if others violate the 50 percent rule in responding to you,
you are still under oath to remain within its bounds yourself.
It does not matter who started it. If you get involved in it, it
is YOUR responsibility.
ADORE-L is not a forum where your person or ideas will be treated
with respect just because they are your ideas or just because you posted
them. We are not a society of daisies.
We get respect the old fashioned way. We EARN it.
The PURPOSE of posting to ADORE-L is to find out where YOU are
wrong, not to convert others to some fixed rock solid belief.
Nor is it a forum for you to put up your ideas expecting them to be
left alone because 'you have a right to your ideas and a right to be
accorded respect regardless of your viewpoint.'
You don't. Not here.
If you post that 'all sinners should go to hell' and other readers
find this a vaguely rude notion, they will probably respond to your
posting in a vaguely rude fashion. For you to then say that you were
being polite in your posting so they should be polite also will probably
not be met with much favor.
People will accord you respect either because they agree with you,
or because they agree to disagree with you. People will not accord you
respect just because you are human.
If people can not agree with you, and can not agree to disagree
with you, then you will probably get roasted in accordance with the Fair
Game principle and the 50 percent rule (See APL No. 3).
Homer
A D O R E - L P O L I C Y L E T T E R
APL No. 3 4 MARCH 1989
50 PERCENT RULE.
Simply put, the 50 percent rule is that all communications to
ADORE-L should have a content to flame ratio greater than or equal to 50
percent.
Flame is anything that is not content.
Content is specifics. You do not have to prove everything you say,
you do not have to support it with endless references, but you should
say something. Meaningful and specific.
If you think someone is wrong or ignornant, do not just say 'so and
so is wrong and ignorant'. Quote EXACTLY the viewpoint you disagree
with and state an exact counter viewpoint. You do not have to prove you
are right. The first goal here is to STATE the Truth, not to prove it.
Just getting it said would be a major leap for mankind.
VIOLATIONS
If someone violates the 50 percent rule in responding to you, this
does not give you the right to violate the rule in return. You are ALL
under oath to abide by the 50 percent rule no matter what. This is your
HONOR at stake. Honor is the ability to make, keep and trade fair
chosen promises. The promise in this case is to stick to the 50 percent
rule.
On many lists flames are not allowed at all. What can happen there
is that people will intentionally misinterpret your content and consider
it a flame. For example if your content happens to be a criticism they
will take it as a flame. Their intention of course is to suppress your
communication as the criticism is usually of them. This makes other
people very afraid to post.
On ADORE-L the 50 percent rule gives you a WIDE MARGIN OF ERROR.
You can flame people or ideas for 1/3 of a page and give content for
2/3's of a page and still be well within game rules. This makes it
impossible for someone to nit pick you into silence. Defend your rights
to this rule. It exists for you.
Every once in a while someone will step over the line. Short
postings containing nothing but value judgements such as 'I like...' or
'I dislike...', sweeping generalities (not specifics) and endless
dripping sarcasm and slime are good candidates for this kind of posting.
Endless dripping sarcasm is fine by the way, as long as it is
followed by 100 percent specific content. This produces a perfect 50/50
message. It is really walking on the edge though.
HANDLING VIOLATIONS.
A good way to handle violations of the 50 percent rule is to
analyze in detail the content and flame of the message, add up the
percentages, and post the results.
Suggesting what content could have been added to the message to
balance the flame already present is also very constructive. Suggesting
what flame could have been left out of the message is not so
constructive.
Teaching people not to flame is teaching them to speak LESS.
Teaching people to post more content is teaching the to speak MORE.
Thus if people flame too much, get them to post content to match it.
This is fitting justice.
OFFENSE
Do not confuse the 50 percent rule with OFFENDING someone.
The statement
'The Bible was written by the Devil to mislead Christians
into a life of irresponsibility for their own birth,
a fear of God and His Universe, and to further entrap
some Christians in their own wish that there be a Hell
FOREVER that they could send all their enemies to by providing
an All Powerful Being to do it for them.'
is 100 percent content although it might offend some. In fact some
would consider it a direct blaspheme of their religion.
On the other hand, the statement,
'Some Christians are stupid jerks who deserve to go to Hell
forever.'
is 100 percent flame and 0 percent content.
One can improve the ratio on the above sentence by altering it in
the following way.
'Some Christians deserve to go to Hell forever because they
themselves wish non believers to go to Hell forever.'
This statement is 100 percent content and in fact can be argued
with by returning,
'It does not take going to Hell FOREVER to get someone
to give up their desire to have it happen to others.
About 5 minutes will do. Since it is not NECESSARY
to send a person to Hell FOREVER to change his mind,
and since God is not only BIG but also SMART, it
is unlikely that such ever occurs. However it is possible
that some are roasting there for a while. The good Lord
probably checks in on them periodically to see if they
are well done. Some Christians need a little longer to cook.
Then he lets them all go and gives them another chance.
He gives them as many chances as they need. Thus one day
ALL Men attain the awakened state.'
The following is a statement with 100 percent flame and 0 percent
content.
'I love Christians. They are such wonderful people. We
should encourage them all we can and accord them all the
respect in the world.'
One last example of a perfect 50/50 statement.
'I was born and raised a Christian,
of COURSE I hate Christians!'
HAVE GUN, WILL TRAVEL.
When you are ALLOWED to flame, you are much less likely to do so.
When flame is matched by content, people will respect you in spite
of the flame. Content heals the wounds so to speak.
If you look closely to your Duties and Rights in this matter,
ADORE-L will thrive and you will have a forum not elsewhere provided.
Homer
A D O R E - L P O L I C Y L E T T E R
APL No. 4 6 MARCH 1989
The PURPOSE of ADORE-L
The purpose of ADORE-L is content.
Flames are allowed, but the purpose is content.
Flame without content is like fire without wood.
This list is here for you.
To make friends.
To find a common bond.
Not to agree. Not to prove yourself.
It is your importances that will give life to ADORE-L.
You are free to speak.
You wanted this, didn't you?
Content.
A D O R E - L P O L I C Y L E T T E R
APL NO. 5 of 14 NOV 1989
CONTENT FREE POSTINGS.
When some people disagree with what I have to say, they call my
postings content free. That they could not disagree with a truely
content free posting seems to escape them.
What they mean is that they think I am wrong, but if they said that
they would leave themselves open to further argument and counter
argument which they undoubtedly want to avoid at all costs. Thus they
claim that I have not said anything, which effectively puts me down
without having to materially counter anything.
The postings that I made to DISARM-L and POLITICS-L were the most
quality content filled postings I have made in my entire life. The view
that I stated there over and over again was simply that war is a
religious problem, born of religious views and prevailing religious
insanities, and that with out an address to our past lives and our
future lives we will never solve the criminal element in our societies
that start and make wars and other wise ruin our lives.
This view was totally unacceptable to 100 percent of the audience
of DISARM-L and POLITICS-L and so it was called content free.
In my view refering to these postings as content free is pure
intentional evil and should be dealt with in a suitable manner. As I
have no control over DISARM-L, I left.
ADORE-L is a different matter. I have never bounced anyone from
this list, although I have been sorely tempted. Unfortunately the
longer I go with a perfect record the harder it is to break it
arbitrarily. Further I am at odds with myself over bouncing people
because I can not determine an absolute criteria by which a person
should be bounced. Lord knows though that some should be. Most have
left long ago.
Also people tend to change. They may start off bouncable and then
start to make intelligent postings. This has happened many times and I
remember them well, so I am very hesitant to just can someone for a
first or even second, third, fourth and fifth offense.
On the other hand I must avoid at all costs getting caught up in
the flame wars engendered by people who make postings that are truely
100 percent content free, yet who tell me mine are content free.
These flame wars fill our mailboxes with efforts to defend myself
against ridiculous charges and are a waste of time and cause other
people to leave the list in disgust. The pattern seems to be that when
ADORE-L is absent of the flame wars, which means only I am posting or
intelligent exchanges are talking place the subscribership grows. When
we start to get flame masters signing up berating me endlessly for what
a bigot I am and I get involved in defense of my position we start to
lose people.
Probably if I just let these postings go and did not answer them,
these people would get bored and leave as they have no serious intention
on the list anyway. They just want to berate a moderator that has
locked himself in with rules that say no one gets bounced.
Of course there is always the fear that if I am silent on these
attacks, that will be taken as defeat by those of you who are
spectators. Silence is agreement, you know, the guy said something so
right I just cant find the words to say anything back, or some such
thing.
Or it will be taken as a sign of fear that I can not defend myself,
a sign that I am hoping the attacker will just go away and people will
soon forget what he said and that I had no answer.
Most of you are not that stupid. Those of you that are, good. My
purpose is not to endlessly convince border line cases that I am right.
If people like Karen can sway you into thinking I am a totally empty
headed ego maniac, then one presumes that your head is emptier than
mine. And hers.
I am not going to take up bouncing people. But I am going to take
up asking people to leave. My response to them after that point will be
silence. You can draw your own conclusions.
Those of you with any grey matter left will see the wisdom of my
decisions. And ADORE-L will become a quieter and higher quality list.
I need to avoid getting caught up in the flame wars with the pure
assholes.
Telling me my postings are content free is not the way to get on my
good side, and it is no longer the way to draw me into further
communication.
Since the 50 Percent Rule is most often invoked to put down my
'content free postings' and is routinely broken in the process of doing
so (note Karen's recent posting about DISARM-L), I hereby suspend all
content to flame restrictions on this list. You may speak what you
will, how you will. If I don't like you, you will be asked to leave.
For me, you will be gone. Since I am the only attraction on this list
to those people who would make noise, if I do not respond, they will
leave or shut up and the rest of you will not have to be bothered by
their and my mail in your mailboxes.
Attila the Hun.
A D O R E - L P O L I C Y L E T T E R
APL No. 6 of 10 OCT 1991
ADORE-L has one remaining rule.
If you leave it, you leave forever.
Exceptions will be made for extraordinary circumstances.
A D O R E - L P O L I C Y L E T T E R
APL No. 7 of 25 AUG 1992
MANDATORY READING FOR MEMBERS OF ADORE-L
ADORE-L COPYRIGHT POLICY
ADORE-L is a confidential list.
Your presence on this list is a privilege extended to you by me and
those who supply the resources.
A privilege is a package of rights balanced by a corresponding
package of duties.
Your rights on this list are laid out in detail in earlier policy
letters, but basically consist of the right to speak your mind as you
see fit about any subject of importance to you.
In return your duties to this list are to obey to the letter and
without exception the few rules and regulations imposed on you by those
same policy letters and future ones.
Keep in mind that some of the restrictions imposed by earlier
policy letters were canceled by later ones.
You are free to leave ADORE-L at any time, but if you do you may
not return, exceptions will be made for administrative leave.
ADORE-L IS A CONFIDENTIAL LIST.
In the past I have tolerated cross postings of ADORE-L to other
lists such as BELIEF-L and others, and have allowed gateways to
subscribe to ADORE-L that allowed wide public dissemination to unknown
destinations of the postings placed here.
I have removed all such non individual accounts from the ADORE-L
subscription list, and of course ADORE-L subscription has been locked
for a long time allowing no new members, except a few that I personally
know and trust.
Those of you who remain on the list are either real jerks or are
serious about this list.
Anyhow, as of today, 9/1/92, you may not under any circumstances
repost material sent to ADORE-L to any other list or any other form of
broad public issue without the explicit permission of the author of the
piece.
You may of course share this material with friends that you trust,
via private e-mail or other forms of communication, with the clear
understanding that they are bound by the same rules and regulations
regarding the broad public issue of such materials.
In the future those found violating these rules or who are
negligently responsible for others violating these rules will be removed
from ADORE-L.
If you are not sure, ask the author.
I am sure that you all understand that I can not provide an
absolutely secure forum for you to speak your mind among friends without
repercussions from the world around you. It takes some measure of
courage and willingness to die or be ruined to speak one's mind freely.
Not to mention the danger posed to one's family, loved ones and
friends.
YOUR PURPOSE FOR BEING ON THIS LIST
Your purpose for being on this list should be and ONLY BE personal
spiritual gain.
Anyone who is on this list solely to attain personal spiritual gain
is welcome, no matter who they are.
If you yourself have no hope of personal spiritual gain, and are
here for any other reason you should consider leaving the list now.
If you are here only to entertain yourself at the fool hardy
Immortal Aspirations of others, or to laugh at, denigrate or otherwise
put down or harass others or myself in our pursuit of personal spiritual
gain, you should consider leaving the list now.
You are strictly forbidden to be on this list if you are reporting
to or are yourself an operative of the government, the CIA, the FBI, the
Mafia, the Church of Scientology, the news media be it television,
radio, or newspaper, or a member of any international, political,
criminal, corporate or other organization sent here to spy on this list,
or to take notes on its members or otherwise keep track of their
activities, viewpoints and opinions.
If you are so discovered to be such a person you will immediately
face charges of civil and criminal trespass along with the intent to
violate first amendment rights of freedom of speech, religion and
personal PRIVATE assembly.
In general private e-mail sent to me concerning matters important
to ADORE-L will be reposted to the list without warning, so if you have
something to say post it to the list.
This is a GROUP here, and we will survive as a group, not as
members talking about each other or ourselves behind each other's backs.
You have no duty to speak up on this list, nor even to read the
postings to this list EXCEPT ADORE-L POLICY LETTERS which are clearly
marked in the header.
You have only a duty to speak the sworn truth before God when you
do speak, and to not broadly disseminate postings from ADORE-L with out
permission of the author. Some posters may place tighter restrictions
on their own postings. If they do you MUST OBEY THEM.
I will show no mercy on this account.
You know I am just egoistic enough to think that some people want
and need to hear what I have to say. I never say anything I don't wish
someone had said to me as a child, but I also know that there are a lot
of people in the world who really don't want you to say anything deep
lest they be out of a job or out of a life.
It is these people who endanger us and who we have most been like
in our past lives if we are frightened by them, and it is these people
who we need to speak about the most. If they scare you, think what
exposure does to them.
So we all have to balance our own personal fear and cowardice with
our goal to improve life in this universe with free and open
communication.
I am doing my best on ADORE-L to start a small fire here in the
middle of our dark night of the soul. The problem with fires of course
is that they save your life by keeping you warm all night but they also
act as a beacon to all your enemies.
The route IN towards a safe life with a grave at the end is to
build no fires at all or let others build them for you with warmed over
lies. The route OUT to eternal freedom and willingness, is to build as
many fires as you can with truth and take a few hits along the way.
Fires are built with wide open communication within yourself and
others.
In the words of LRH, your own personal integrity is more important
than your immediate life. This does imply you have more than one,
probably more than you care to remember or foretell.
Well now you know the way in...
If your own Immortality seems totally and utterly preposterous to
you but you really really want it to be true, well then you are on the
dusk side of your dark night of the soul.
It's going to be a LONG night, you don't want to be alone.
Do you want another body and life on Earth after this one?
Do you want to be a boy or a girl?
Do you need some rest first?
Could you do better than you've done this time around?
Would doing worse somehow be doing better for you?
The first step on the long road to truth is to start asking the
right questions.
If you wish to sign off this list, do so now.
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Homer Wilson Smith
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> Homer: Who created the Aliens ? What was the very , very first
> inception
> of evil. Did evil have a motivator or was it just pure evil to
> harm...Thanks
Not sure the relation of evil to Aliens.
The question on evil is very hard to fathom, personally I have no
clue other than it was a good intention to become evil.
I can only give you adore's answer to it, which is basically that
the rest of us hired someone to pretend the be the first evil being.
It was an available game role when we first chose up sides.
But then if the sides are opposed, both will think the other evil.
First you have to define evil, do you mean cold uncaring, selfish,
thoughtless, can't be propitiated, all it wants is your destruction
harm, pain or servitude?
Beings can mockup up evil in others, it may be a mis attribution.
MEST is pretty much evil, in that mest treats love like the ocean
treats sand castles in the sand.
Once a being sees evil in another, they have missed the good
intention in the other, and so they start to do painful things to the
one they see as evil. Now the other sees THEM as evil etc.
Most of it is straight hallucination.
Finding the good intention under every action blows the conception
of the evil that most are stuck in.
However good intentions can be limited in scope, I am trying to
make MY family survive, and I don't care about yours, so I will do my
best to drive yours under so mine can do better.
Usually cooperation is the better way to go, but in scarce times,
people start stealing from each other etc.
When situations demand the sacrifice of one dynamic to another,
sacrifice the group to self, then one side or another will see the other
side as 'evil', although in truth it is more selfish and determined.
The evil then is in the situation that forces us make those
decisions.
Then there is the kind of evil that enjoys hurting another FOR NO
REASON. That's the kind we wonder about.
Basically evil either wants to hurt another, or doesn't care, but
in any case it is committing to its separation from another, or it would
feel the pain it is causing.
Since beings of any kind feel pain, generally a being must think
others are evil in order to inflict pain on them.
Basically though anything that hates pain is good, so evil must
really be a matter of hallucination or justification or whatever, as we
are all he same inside.
Most likely, beings commit accidental overts, and needing a
justifier, they say the other deserved it. Thus evil is invented after
the fact, that is the DED-DEDEX sequence.
Homer
Homer Wilson Smith
> Homer: I have a bunch of questions, then I am going to lay low for a
> bit.....more
>
> Homer: l. May I ask if you think Clear is a possible state.....
The world is a dream in eternal infinite consciousness, a being can
mockup anything he can imagine if he can imagine it.
God is a multi I-AM being, and each being has one or more of those
I-AM's in carnation, a GodSoul.
That's me and thee.
Whether the time track exists as Hubbard said and whether it is
reactive on the being is a hot topic of conversation, in many cases it
certainly seems to exist, but there are other sources of reactivity,
BT's, demons, deities, angels, spiritual team mates, who knows.
If I had to bet I would say something like the Time Track does
exist as a postulated automaticity, and it is reactive, but only because
our postulates keep mocking it up on an automaticity when it is
restimulated,
A being can presumably uncreate anything he created, so if all the
above is true, then yes the being can probably go clear. Just how
though is very open to question. Approach is everything.
> 2. Who was your auditor?
I have been audited by many, but their identities are not up for
discussion.
The public news groups know that I had org and flag auditing, and
auditing from newsgroup members Filbert and Ducharme, Bob Ross, and Enid
Vien. Some in person, some over the phone.
> 3. Do you know of any good auditors that apply workable technology?
> Have you availed yourself of them? If not, why not?
No, I do not know of any, although you might want to talk to Enid
Vien. Common garden variety auditing works well on many people, it
doesn't work well on some, and not at all on me.
I am no longer interested in the dual auditing scene, although I do
audit others sometimes myself but only lower level easily accessible
cases that run themselves, if I just kick them downhill a bit.
Mostly I am interested in cracking my own existence and I devote
myself to that.
> 4. Is the purpose of Alt Scientology Technology to find a tech that
> works.....
It is alt.clearing.technology, and yes that is its purpose.
Faster, cheaper always better and which can be soloed.
> 5. Your wisdom is unique and helpful. I am confused at why with all
> your technical data, that it can't be used to CLEAR you and Jane?!
The job is bigger than anyone imagines, especially working from the
top down. Everything I know, surmise or make up out of whole cloth is
not sufficient at this time to the problem. But things progress.
> 6. Do you SOLO audit?
All the time, both on and off the meter.
I audit my own situation, and the situation of the various other
beings in my vicinity.
> 7. What do you think of Ron';s involvement in Black Magick?
An OT should be involved in all kinds of magic.
If you can't conjure up the Devil, he can conjure you up.
> 8. I find that KNOWEDGISM very logical as well.....IS Alan Walters
> Clear?
Alan died recently. Probably was a clear, he used to brag about
it, but for me I saw a guy wanting to keep things secret, measuring case
gain by ability to make money, (which I can see), and who could rarely
speak without hyping himself in utterly-empty-of-content postings, much
like you would read a sales pitch in the National Enquirer. 40 pages of
how to get rich quick and not one word of how to actually do it. You
gotta BUY the program to find out anything real of it.
He once said on the newsgroup he wouldn't audit me if I wanted
him to. I was some kind of useless degraded being to him.
On the other hand his web site is full of good lower level tech.
I know lots of people who got auditing from Alan, and loved it.
> Last but not least...Do you ever go on the Ex Scientologists bOARD.....I
> FIND THE [POSTERS TO BE VERY LOGICAL, SANE AND VERY UPBEAT... Do you?
I do not engage in private commuications about the subject.
> Could you get someone to apply your tech on you and Clear you...If not, why
> not, please....Thanks a bunch as this is all very confusing
> somehow....Truth is very simple....Complexitites are manufactured......JMHO
My tech is still not at the clear stage, its more involved with
getting at the Grades.
Homer
Ted Mayett
>future lives we will never solve the criminal element in our societies
>that start and make wars and other wise ruin our lives.
>
Should be --> otherwise
Ted Mayett
cannot vs can not
> If people can not agree with you, and can not agree to disagree
>because I can not determine an absolute criteria by which a person
> Or it will be taken as a sign of fear that I can not defend myself,
> I am sure that you all understand that I can not provide an
Ted Mayett
>Prove it cases and believe it cases and dharma criminals are not welcome.
>
'Prove it cases' I get.
'Believe it cases' is a little fuzzy.
And 'dharma criminals', WHAT? what is a dharma criminal?
If it is just a matter of patience and reading, I have that and can do
that. Or are there url's for these things?
This is what I find for dharma, and it does not seem applicable to
this PL:
Noun. Dharma (basic principles of the cosmos; also: an ancient sage
in Hindu mythology worshipped as a god by some lower castes;)
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checkers catch.
can not is not caught so it valid :)
With more than 650 white papers in storage, I can only
correct the obvious spelling errors and not the endless little
things that educated people know, that 9th grade dropouts don't :)
Dropout or drop out?
Homer
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ho...@lightlink.com
> 'Prove it cases' I get.
> 'Believe it cases' is a little fuzzy.
Dianetics, they believe anything you tell them, particularly if
you are one of their bank mates like a sympathy valence.
> And 'dharma criminals', WHAT? what is a dharma criminal?
Dharma in this usage is something like truth or road to truth.
Dharma battle is when two people go at it with each other to prove
each other wrong, take apart their logic, correct or clarify definitions
and make a more workable presentation.
Dharma treason is when when someone cheats at winning the argument,
cheating is a very well defined and very rich subject.
A dharma criminal is one who cheats in dharma battle.
> If it is just a matter of patience and reading, I have that and can do
> that. Or are there url's for these things?
Just endless prior discussion on a.c.t over the years.
> This is what I find for dharma, and it does not seem applicable to
> this PL:
>
> Noun. Dharma (basic principles of the cosmos; also: an ancient sage
This one is right.
Dharma battle then is the intellectual co communication between
people that brings everyone up to agreement or agreement to disagree.
We assume that ultimate truths are the same for everyone, and thus
agreement should be attainable. Where it isn't, we continue until we
get correction.
Where no agreement is possible, then we agree to disagree.
Example:
OT powers exist and can be had for all.
How come no one is demonstrating them?
Because they are dangerous to demonstrate to an ignorant world who
will not understand their source and availablility. In fact it is
better to not have the powers at all in this clime.
Oh, yes that seems right.
Another example, this time of dharma treason.
OT powers exist.
No they don't.
How do you know that?
Because no one has any.
CHECK MATE.
What he said is an arrestable crime, and off to dharma prison he
goes. Mostly kicked out of the debate and no more time spent on him
until he apologizes for his assertions of the unassertable.
Homer
Ted Mayett
there.
ummm, 'dropout' clears this spell checker.