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Homer Wilson Smith

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Aug 12, 2006, 12:00:42 AM8/12/06
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Heidrun Beer (hB...@SGMT.AT) wrote:
>Wishful thinking but not a truth that I have observed. The people that
>I know that have audited a lot show a shocking lack of responsibility
>for the harm they have done to others.

O/W a Limited Theory comes to mind.

'the harm they have done to others' is shoring up others
as innocent victims.

Once the pc comes to laughter about the prank he played on
others, that's the end of it for that pc. It should be the end of it
for others too if ALL they had on it was charge with the pc. But if
they needed to be victims for other reasons, they will hold on tight.

>Unless you can delegate physical actions to other people, there is
>always work involved. Even delegating actions in a way that produces
>an outcome requires the work of a skilled manager. And without
>physical action, most conditions that have been caused by harmful
>acts do not resolve. There is the occasional "magic", but the majority
>of situations requires action.

Mostly auditing of the victims.

Without that one is left in endless making amends.

Best thing for a being to do is actually to leave the
universe altogether and let it help itself. As one becomes
more OT, the very postulate that you have hurt something and
they need your help actually holds them down.

>Now, without using a lot of distraction, can you answer my question
>with a clear "yes" or "no"? Does your new approach consist of
>sessions only, or is it planning for out of session activities
>where indicated?

Where are these enforced activities on the tone scale?

Biggest trap there is is, you hurt me, now you have to stay
around and help me clean up the mess you made of my life.

Homer

Homer Wilson Smith

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Aug 12, 2006, 12:02:31 AM8/12/06
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Heidrun Beer (hB...@SGMT.AT) wrote:
>I agree with this principle, as long as it is not used to avoid
>the other, physical half of reality, especially when people are
>undergoing undeserved hardship.

Undeserved hardship - NO Undeserved Hardship

Are you selling tickets to the cult of innocent victims?

Homer

Heidrun Beer

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Aug 12, 2006, 1:17:00 AM8/12/06
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 00:02:08 -0400 (EDT), Homer Wilson Smith wrote in
<2006081204...@adore.lightlink.com>:


Of course not. But if I spill Diesel fuel on a parking lot,
I get it cleaned up before I move to another place, and if I drive
over a guy's toes, I take him to the hospital.

I am not talking about the damage to the "victim" (the reception
point of my actions), but about the damage to myself that is the
result of living with a trail of disaster behind me.

That trail of disaster would be an indicator of a chaotic mind -
not a good tool to lead a creative life. If I take every "overt"
as a direct result of my flawed mental programming, I can correct
the programming and undo the "overt" in order to improve
my future chances to be successful in my creations.

Interesting that you would mention a karmic bank - it is not an
LRH concept as far as I know, but I have found it at work quite
a lot.

If life is indeed a process, every overt whose consequences
have not been corrected, would be an unflat command - a command
not taken to F/N. They can roughly be sorted into "fixables"
(I can clean up the Diesel on the parking lot) and "unfixables"
(I can't undo a murder committed 10 lifetimes ago and I cannot
possibly find all the negative consequences that came from it).

For the "unfixables", I have found it workable to flow a contribution
into the general area whose magnitude is sufficient to balance
the "karmic account". The "fixables" I will get fixed even if
it takes a major effort. I have found these things to pull me
out of present time if I don't actively handle them.


Heidrun Beer

Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training
http://www.sgmt.at

Heidrun Beer

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Aug 12, 2006, 1:29:28 AM8/12/06
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On 10 Aug 2006 11:13:03 -0700, ph...@philscott.net wrote in
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>The physical aspect is part/ parcel and *integral with the spiritual
>aspect...as long as the physical damage is in place, the spiritual
>damage is in place...regardless how its rationalized in someones pin
>pointy brain.
>
>Postulates and considerations are NOT senior to 'MEST' in my view

[...]


Well, the spiritual aspect is part/parcel of the physical
creation in the way that an architects's construction drawing is
part/parcel of the eventual house.

There would never be a house without the blueprints.

But you also can't live in a blueprint, and if you have found
the flaw in your drawing that causes a wall to develop mold
in the winter, you still have to go out, open the actual wall
and correct the actual insulation.

I have seen the outpoint of missing implementation so many
times in the lives of spiritually active people that I tend
to scream when anybody says "consideration is senior to MEST".

But of course they are right, consideration IS senior to MEST -
if it is followed by implementation steps that MAKE it senior.

The majority of earthlings are limping on the spiritual leg;
many spiritually aware people are limping on the physical leg.
Truth is, without both legs in good shape there is no
smooth walking through life.

acw --- wis......@cyber

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Aug 12, 2006, 11:27:56 AM8/12/06
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Denial could be said to be the non-ownership of what one is responsible
for or the point one enters into total irresponsibility. Denial is
also a grave source of causing scarcity.

RESPONSIBILITY: THE KEY TO UPSIDE GROWTH

Definitions:

RESPONSIBLE: adj. 1. Placed in control and having to give
satisfaction. 2. A position held by such a person or persons. 3. Fit
to be placed in control. 4. Causing a particular result.

OMNI-RESPONSIBILITY: Omni-Responsibility is the act of exercising
your will combined with the ability and willingness to assume the
omni-position of full ownership or co-ownership of causes, effects and
consequences of all parts of a game.

Omni-Responsibility spans the spectrum of all Zones.

It includes full presence and absences, all source and counter sources,
all cause and counter causes, all thoughts and counter thoughts, all
emotions and counter emotions, all efforts and counter-efforts, all
intentions and counter intentions, all visions and counter visions, all
policies and counter-policies, all plans and counter plans, all
implementations and counter implementations, and all outcomes and
counter-outcomes on all spheres of influence and control across all
universes.

SATISFACTION: n. 1. A source or cause of pleasure, fulfillment or
gratification. 2. A payment or other compensation for damage, injury,
or correct exchange for something that has value.

Responsibility is not blame or fault.

Responsibility is awareness of one's cause or sphere of control.

When one denies responsibility one is shrinking their sphere of
influence and inhibiting their power. Too much denial of
responsibility and one can end up in a chronic state of scarcity and
lack of control over life.

When someone does something non-optimum, embarrassing or harmful they
feel they must hide thus they will be forced to go out of communication
with those who would be affected by that non-optimum, embarrassing or
harmful "done". Too many non-optimum, embarrassing or harmful acts or
harmful dones and the person will end up with the "No's" - no
game, no space, no time, no interest, and no resources. The reason is
that in denying cause they have made themselves smaller and weaker.

The correct action is to reach out and be responsible for what you have
done and what can happen.

The more you do the more likely something could go wrong. But if you
are willing to be responsible you can correct that and make things go
right.

If you are having trouble producing results, don't withdraw, reach out
and do more.

The only real crime is to cut your reach and withdraw thus making
yourself smaller, weaker, less aware, and less intelligent.

When you reverse this cycle and increase your reach and responsibility
you are making yourself bigger, stronger, more aware, and more
intelligent.

Alan

Homer Wilson Smith

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Aug 12, 2006, 10:25:15 PM8/12/06
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Phil Scott

>Postulates and considerations are NOT senior to 'MEST' in my view

Thank you for admitting that, as it indicates the inexorable
position you occupy on the tone scale.

You do not belong on this news group, as your world view is, *HAS
TO BE* inherently anti scientology and anti clearing, and it has
NOTHING to do with Hubbard whose misdeeds merely act as a convenient
foil for your venmous attacks on *CLEARING*.

Someday you will wake up from your dream of MEST and you will
finally know what a postulate is.

Homer

Ed

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Aug 13, 2006, 9:08:47 AM8/13/06
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Not related to Phil, but just to be positive, here is
something I ran across from an email list. Thi story is from Keith
Varnum.

Ed
-----------------------------

Reprinted from KAJAMA Online Journal of the Psyche
August 07, 2006 _http://www.kajama.com_ (http://www.kajama.com/)

Relaxing Your Grip
Keith Varnum

reprinted with permission

On the way home, my buddy Joe and I drove to a nearby gorge for a
quick, late afternoon dip. The locals called this gorge Sculptured
Rocks because of the dramatic, serrated beauty carved by ancient
glaciers.

Pure water tanks formed as a river cut down through the mountain. As
tiered droplets, the river gifted the gorge with seven deep pools
which flowed into each other successively through waterfalls and
flutes. Native Americans referred to this powerful spot as the Seven
Sacred Pools. They used the pure waters for initiation rites in ritual
ceremonies many moons ago.

Initiation, however, was the furthest thing from my mind as I dove
into the pure, cold water. My intention was to swim, relax and cool
off after being out on a boat all afternoon, where I'd been exposed to
the sun - and to Joe's impassioned, personal questioning.

I was floating in the largest pool when I spotted Joe on a high cliff
about fifty feet above me. Tall, sturdy, blonde and resplendent in a
shaft of sunlight, Joe resembled a reincarnated Viking. I'd seen local
kids jump safely from that height in the past and could tell he was
contemplating the plunge. But Joe was hesitating, and appeared lost in
serious inner concentration. Later he told me he'd been reviewing his
Greek mythology and comparing it to the concepts he learned from me
that afternoon.

Suddenly Joe pointed down to me, shouting, "You're one of those
teachers, aren't you? You're one of those spiritual teachers who gets
people to jump off cliffs."

He'd been riding me all day to come out with my true identity and
power. Still reluctant and clinging to my old protection of playing
dumb, I shouted back, "I don't know what the hell you're talking
about."

Joe ignored my protestations of ignorance. "I know what you're doing.
You're trying to get me to leap off this cliff...to trust God and
Spirit and leave my old world!"

From the heights of the precipice, Joe explained how the Greek myths
taught that for a person to receive a gift, they have to give a gift.
Then he said, "I know for me to jump off this cliff and receive the
gift that's here for me - the gift of opening to a whole new spiritual
life - I need to first give a gift."

Joe gave the gift of trust: trusting the universe, Spirit and his
inner coach. As he hit the water, his weighty body thrust sharply into
the pool. After an eternity of seconds, Joe's left hand popped up
above the surface of the water. The skin on his wrist was torn open. I
could see two stark white bones sticking out through bleeding flesh.
Joe's hand had hit a hidden tree trunk submerged under the water,
fracturing his wrist in two places.

Distraught, I helped Joe climb out of the pool to solid ground. His
hand swelled to about three times its normal size, the color of his
skin changing very quickly from pale white to a sickening spectrum of
yellow-green, then olive, blue, and finally, black.

Joe wailed in confusion and betrayal, waving his broken wrist at the
gods. "Is this the gift?" he bemoaned. "You know, I trusted. I gave my
trust...and this is the gift I get back?"

Turning to me, he insisted, "There must be another gift."

I was in shock and resistance, trying to avoid dealing with the whole
crisis. Joe walked over to me, holding his now grotesquely deformed
hand and wrist. "You just did some sort of healing class a while ago,
didn't you?"

I nodded. I had recently attended Reiki training. I told myself that I
went mainly to meet some new friends. True to form, I was keeping
myself in the dark as to the real reason my spirit pushed me to
explore something new. The soul purpose of my learning Reiki was to
re-ignite my natural healing abilities, and by doing so to open me to
a whole new world of public spiritual expression.

Joe persisted, "Reiki teaches you to heal things, right?" In his
innocence and trust, he demanded, "Well, heal my wrist."

The Reiki class taught me how to send a warm, gentle vibration through
a person's body. The treatments eased the pain of headaches and other
minor ailments. I'd used it once since the class to assist my young
friend Kriya to heal a small burn on her finger, but Joe was asking
for a healing on a much more profound level. Lord, help me!

Joe sat down next to me and placed his wrist on my lap. "Okay, heal
it," he commanded.

Upset, tired and frustrated by Joe's tenacious will, I felt I had
little choice and nothing to lose. So I put one hand underneath his
wrist and the other hand on top. I allowed Reiki energy, or Universal
Life Force, to flow freely through me to Joe's wrist. My concern and
focus were on trying to get out of the situation and save some face. I
also didn't want to completely destroy Joe's illusion of the
"spiritual" nature of his new buddy.

Without warning, the palms of both my hands became hot - really hot!
I'd sensed a little warmth when I'd done Reiki before, but now my
palms felt as if they were literally on fire. Just as I was freaking
out at the intense heat in my palms, I heard a strong, lucid voice
rising from the depths of my being. It was the voice of my soul. I'd
heard it a few times before in my life, but only as a faint whisper.
The authoritative voice cut right through my fear and denial:

"Keith, if you want to have this level of transformation in your life,
you have to relax your grip on everything."

I knew the voice was referring to a level of power that could heal a
wrist broken in two places. My inner coach repeated:

"If you want this level of alchemy, magic and healing in your life,
you have to loosen your grip on all your beliefs about the world and
everything else you're so tightly holding on to."

Not only the events of that day, but the events of my whole life
passed by my mind's eye. I could see how I was trying to hold my old,
familiar world together. I felt the strain of all the effort and work
I invested each moment into trying to maintain my narrow view of the
universe and my limited image of myself. I knew the voice was correct.
I knew I wanted and needed transformation in my life. The voice
continued:

"When you ease the grip and allow this magnitude of transmutation to
occur, not everything will change radically. Some aspects of your life
will only change a tiny bit, but other aspects will shift a lot. You
cannot control which aspects will shift a lot or which will shift a
little. You simply need to loosen your grip on the whole thing and
allow everything to move, rearrange and realign however it needs to.
Do you allow this?"

Realizing the folly of resisting my soul's plan for natural healing
and harmony, I eased up on my grip. The part of me that was resisting
my inevitable fate was exhausted. I surrendered into agreement with my
inner wisdom. In this exquisite abandon, I experienced extreme
relaxation and calm. The searing heat in my hands subsided completely.

Very timidly I took my hands off Joe's wrist. The wrist was whole! The
skin wasn't scarred, scratched or disfigured in any way. The color was
a good, healthy pink. The hand was back to its normal size.

Joe and I stared at the wrist. We both started to massage the hand to
see if any pain remained and to check if the healing was complete. Joe
rotated the wrist to make sure it turned normally. The wrist moved
easily and painlessly.

My mind was racing in an attempt to explain what had happened. Did we
hallucinate this whole thing? Did we have too much sun today? Did the
icy cold water get to us?

Then we were blessed by a fortuitous confirmation of the miracle. Just
as my mind began to question, reinterpret and discount the healing, we
heard shouting from above us. From the rim of the gorge, about a dozen
very exhilarated bikers were hollering and waving at us. They had seen
Joe come up out of the water with his broken wrist and had witnessed
the transformation.

As they streamed down the path to reach us, they yelled, "Hey man,
how'd you do that?"

Each biker placed his hands on Joe's wrist. One after another, every
guy insisted on touching Joe's hand and moving his wrist back and
forth. One gnarly guy mumbled, "What kind of people are you?"

In a fascinating gesture harking back to the olden days of jousting,
the bikers handed Joe a large, staff-like tree limb and asked him to
twirl it. They wanted to see if his wrist was truly healed and strong.
So Joe spun a big, heavy stick in the air for several minutes until
everyone was satisfied. The ancient Viking warrior was back!

The bikers were an added gift that day. Their acknowledgement of the
healing gave Joe and me valuable external evidence that we didn't
hallucinate the whole incident. Joe had broken his wrist, and it was
miraculously healed. By Joe. By me. By Spirit. We had witnesses. Very
impartial witnesses.

A dozen strangers had watched Joe come out of the pool with white,
broken bones jutting through the bleeding flesh of his wrist. The
objective observers kept repeating, "I saw your wrist. There was blood
on it. We saw the bone sticking out," as much for us to hear, as for
themselves.

They saw Joe lay the swollen hand on my lap. They watched me cradle
the wrist between my hands. A dozen people, their presence unknown to
us, observed the healing that afternoon by the sacred pools. They
validated the event for us and helped us fight back our minds'
desperate attempts to discredit and deny the magic.

After a while, the bikers drifted away. In a state of amazement and
awe, Joe and I were left sitting there to fully absorb the wonder of
the day. Not only did I participate in a miracle, I learned from my
inner guidance a useful nuance in the skill of letting go.

For many people, "letting go" initially triggers fear and reluctance.
The mind tells us we'll lose something valuable if we simply let go.
So we hold on, tightly grasping our world view, controlling the way we
think things need to be to keep us safe. It's a death grip on a
predictable world that leaves little room for miracles.

Now instead of asking myself and others to "let go," I ask myself and
others to "relax the grip" on tightly held beliefs, so that everything
can shift that needs to shift for real transformation to occur. The
difference in the question being asked is subtle, but profound.

With this approach, we don't give up the opportunity to re-tighten our
grip on old viewpoints if we feel the necessity to feel in control
again. We are much more willing and able to ease our grip on something
familiar and precious than we are to let it go altogether. Loosening
our grip a little allows the elements in our life to rearrange for our
benefit, helping us to shift more easily out of undesirable
situations.

"Relaxing the grip" also allows the wisdom of our inner guidance to
come into play. In setting our sails toward newfound horizons and
inviting the currents of change to take us to fresh ports of call, our
inner navigator can offer crucial shifts in direction that can greatly
ease our journey.

For 30 years Keith Varnum has focused his unique spirit on helping
people explore, enjoy and embrace the adventure of life. From the
wisdom of native tribal cultures and ancient spiritual traditions,
Keith shares his distillation of the underlying principles of all
healing and transformation.

After curing himself of blindness, he has applied his approach to
human dynamics in a practical way as a wilderness vision quest guide,
life strategy coach, international seminar leader, author,
acupuncturist, filmmaker, gardener, radio talk show host, owner/chef
of two gourmet natural foods restaurants and vice president of the
country's largest natural food company.

When not exploring consciousness in the canyons of Arizona (see
_www.SedonaVisionQuest.com_ (http://www.sedonavisionquest.com/) ),
Keith travels around the world assisting people in opening to life's
wonders and surprises in his Dream Workshops. Keith helps people get
the love, abundance and body they want through his free Prosperity
Ezine, free Empowerment Tape and free Coaching at his website,
TheDream.com.

reprinted with permission

Ted

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Aug 13, 2006, 10:05:58 AM8/13/06
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In article <44DF245F...@aol.com>, Ed <met...@aol.com> wrote:

> Not related to Phil, but just to be positive, here is
> something I ran across from an email list. Thi story is from Keith
> Varnum.
>
> Ed
> -----------------------------
>
> Reprinted from KAJAMA Online Journal of the Psyche
> August 07, 2006 _http://www.kajama.com_ (http://www.kajama.com/)
>
> Relaxing Your Grip
> Keith Varnum
>

Letting go, an excellent process.

Very good, Ed.

--
Ted

RedFred

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Aug 14, 2006, 1:08:30 AM8/14/06
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Awesome story Ed! Thank you for your positive input.

RF

Ed

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Aug 14, 2006, 9:22:37 AM8/14/06
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RedFred wrote:
>
> Awesome story Ed! Thank you for your positive input.
>
> RF
>

Miracles do occasionally and unpredictably happen, and IMHO
not by intensely following a "solo" path created by someone else for
whatever reasons. There always seems to be the need for the catalyst
of other people and love.

Ed

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Homer Wilson Smith (ho...@lightlink.com) wrote:
>Phil Scott
>>Postulates and considerations are NOT senior to 'MEST' in my view

> Thank you for admitting that, as it indicates the inexorable
>position you occupy on the tone scale.

I guess the real issue here is counter-intention.

Its like having a commie on a list devoted to improving
capitalism. The commie's comments will all be negative and
destructive, because the commie's intent is NOT to build a better
capitalism. Their intent is to undermine it and destroy it, by force
if necessary.

Their postings are constantly trying to sway people away from
capitalism.

The position of scientological clearing is that the being's
postulates are senior to ALL created and mechanical conditions of
exitence. Mechanical means dimensional, namely matter, energy, space
and time.

If you are not working in that direction, then basically you
are a professional meatball.

One can postulate a form of clearing the lives under the clouds
of existence so to speak, only to see the bright city lights and never
the real sun. But such clearing remains forever below BEING AN EFFECT
on the awareness characteristic scale, and would thus be directed at
acceptance rather than change and control.

Yes, control. Control is a very bad term to low tone people,
that's how you can tell them, have them write up a little essay on
control.

Basically those who are overwhelmed by MEST are in the valence of
MEST, and thus they act in a MEST like fashion, whether they admit it or
not.

"Life treats love like the ocean treats sand castles in the
sand."

This is ok as a fair chosen postulated game condition, but is not
ok as a fundamental view of the AllThatIs.

Phil has shown many times his propensity to forevers and nevers,
for him, most people 'die forever in the ridig apathy of MEST.' Thus
he is frantic about making sure this never happens.

Which is more insane, a God that thinks it is MEST, or MEST that
thinks it is God?

Homer

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Aug 16, 2006, 1:49:18 PM8/16/06
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ho...@lightlink.com wrote:
>postulates are senior to ALL created and mechanical conditions of
>exitence. Mechanical means dimensional, namely matter, energy, space
>and time.


Eagle papers.


Carol

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