Tory on depression and Scientology
Richard Ford
This is a live issue.
Eldon
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7exhCPhAIwQ
>
> This is a live issue.
Here's another one about a Scientologist with bipolar disorder who was
cured by a psychiatrist.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo-t4eSs4BE&feature=related
And his website:
http://www.aarongottfried.com/
An interesting phenomenon about mental practices that get people
euphoric (high on endorphins) is that they sometimes crash into
depression a few weeks later -- something like an induced episode of
bipolar disorder.
Barbara loves Marty
> On Nov 7, 1:19 pm, Richard Ford <doorman.f...@googlemail.com> wrote:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ihGepAkECGoDagETVBMpPb3w7Y3gD9BR23K80
And anti-depressants cause suicide.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-peter-breggin/antidepressants-cause-sui_b_218465.html
Kat
Pretty much why psychiatrists dont prescribe antidepressants for many
bipolar people... it induces mania.
Slarty
I can no longer remember the name for engrams with wording that
induces manic behavior. Was it Manics by any chance? Just thought
I'd throw in a bit of a sorta side step.
Magoo
"Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralov...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 7, 7:28 am, Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 7, 1:19 pm, Richard Ford <doorman.f...@googlemail.com> wrote:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ihGepAkECGoDagETVBMpPb3w7Y3gD9BR23K80
And anti-depressants cause suicide.
And Scientology causes Suicide, too, dearie.
Watch "The UnfunnyTruth about Scientology".
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
I dare ya to watch that.
Tory/Magoo
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-peter-breggin/antidepressants-cause-sui_b_218465.html
Barbara loves Marty
> "Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:8afef139-208f-4ae4...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 7, 7:28 am, Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 7, 1:19 pm, Richard Ford <doorman.f...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
> And anti-depressants cause suicide.
>
> And Scientology causes Suicide, too, dearie.
>
> I dare ya to watch that.
>
> Tory/Magoo
>
I hope we don't have to go again through that, Tory, as I think these
"suicides" were murders but not by Scientologists.
Scientology as by L. Ron Hubbard does not cause any suicides.
Barbara Schwarz
Magoo
I knew many of these people. They weren't murders. I know 8 young people who
all took their own lives. One I stood over, after he shot himself
to death. One jumped out of a 15 story window at M.I.T. (University) on L.
Ron Hubbard's B-day. Was that a murder? I wish you'd wake up and LOOK.
It's easy to sit and bat back, having never looked at the information,
just 'deciding' what is and isn't true. That is *not* what L. Ron Hubbard's
Data Evaluator's Course teaches one. Did you miss that, too?
Scientology as by L. Ron Hubbard does not cause any suicides.
Really? Tell that to the 8 people I know (*as do many others) who took
their own lives, who were "Scientologists"...that's just who I knew
personally. There are many more. Anyone can claim "This wasn't
due to Scientology". What are the facts? That's all I'm interested in.
Scientology *Is* Dangerous to your health, if you have any sort of
medical condition. That's a fact, proven by the MANY who died
way too young, never having received correct medical treatment.
Hubbard's own Dr. Told me "ALL the people who tried to handle Cancer,
naturally, who came through our clinic are now d e a d".
So is Dr. Denk, I'm sorry to say, who helped run the joint, which is now
gone--at least from it's old location.
Take care,
Tory/Magoo
Barbara Schwarz
Magoo
Barbara Schwarz
PS: Barbara....I remember well the "love and respect" I had for
"Ron". ALL of us did, who were "in". Although I don't,
Many people who have left still do have that same love, so I'm not telling
you to change how you feel. (I totally lost all respect when I found out
*I* had suffered within C of $ for 30 years, battling taking my much needed
medication for Epilepsy, only to find out Hubbard was popping pills all the
time. That isn't hear say, that's from people who were with him, directly).
All I ask is that you change just "dubbing in" what is "True"
and what is "false". LOOK AT THE DATA. That IS what "Ron" used
to teach.
Good luck,
T
Barbara Schwarz
> "Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:6f18f2d6-ac2a-41be...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 8, 7:28 pm, "Magoo" <mago...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:8afef139-208f-4ae4...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> > On Nov 7, 7:28 am, Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 7, 1:19 pm, Richard Ford <doorman.f...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ihGepAkECGoDagETVBM...
>
> > And anti-depressants cause suicide.
>
> > And Scientology causes Suicide, too, dearie.
> > Watch "The UnfunnyTruth about
> > Scientology".http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
>
> > I dare ya to watch that.
>
> > Tory/Magoo
>
> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-peter-breggin/antidepressants-cause-...
>
> I hope we don't have to go again through that, Tory, as I think these
> "suicides" were murders but not by Scientologists.
>
> I knew many of these people. They weren't murders. I know 8 young people who
> all took their own lives. One I stood over, after he shot himself
> to death. One jumped out of a 15 story window at M.I.T. (University) on L.
> Ron Hubbard's B-day. Was that a murder? I wish you'd wake up and LOOK.
Tory, I know that you think you figured it all out but you have not. I
did exactly that, I LOOKED.
If you are suicidal, Tory, you want to stop living and do calculate
for that birthday to do it.
People can be psychiatric implanted and hypnotized to kill themselves.
And psychs cover those murders up as suicides
to blame it on Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard.
> Hubbard's own Dr. Told me "ALL the people who tried to handle Cancer,
> naturally, who came through our clinic are now d e a d".
> So is Dr. Denk, I'm sorry to say, who helped run the joint, which is now
> gone--at least from it's old location.
I don't think that Dr. Denk was truly a Scientologist. Dr. Denk
accepted an impostor as L. Ron Hubbard. What Scientologists would do
that.
I don't know Dr. Told is but he might not tell the truth or is
uninformed. L. Ron Hubbard indeed would not have recommended chemo but
natural healing but he is not the only one who would do that. It sees
that the Gerson Institute (founded by a Jewish doc) heals people
naturally and without chemo. He is the one who healed Albert
Schweizer. They claim the opposite of what your Dr. Told claimed. Some
of their patients researched the survival percentage of other cancer
patients. Of 20 people in the same cancer stage, 18 were still alive
after 10 years and while those who got therapy with the same kind of
cancer in the same stage, only 2 of 20 were anymore alive after 5
years.
But you do not have to believe me, make your own research. I know you
come from a medical family but Charlotte Gerson too and she knows that
chemo does not heal but just makes doctors rich and most people die
nevertheless.
Did you see those many videos saying "I am a Scientologist" on
YouTube? One of them is a doctor who apparently prescribes
chemotherapy the other one is a medical inventor. In other words,
forgotten is what L. Ron Hubbard said: heal illnesses naturally not
with chemicals.
>
> Take care,
I do and stay away from the chemicals.
Barbara Schwarz
>
> Tory/Magoo
>
> Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz
> "Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:6f18f2d6-ac2a-41be...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
I really look at the data, Tory, I look with eagle eyes at everything
and that is why I have seen that L. Ron Hubbard was impostored and
blamed on what the other person did.
You should look into natural healing methods of epilepsy too. There is
a strict diet that could help you. These chemicals might control the
seizures but they might harm your other organs. RB died on liver
cancer because she constantly took pills. The doctors who examined Jet
Travolta determined that his liver will be destroyed through those
drugs. That is not good.
The impostor was so dumb and poisoned his body with chemical drugs,
Tory, the original L. Ron Hubbard didn't do this.
I did not lose respect of L. Ron Hubbard because I fortunately know
the original L, Ron Hubbard. He is not the Vistaril man and neither
the babbling guy with MSH on the vessel on that YouTube tape.
Scientologists are medical inventors now and prescribe chemo. They
turn into meanstream people who are no Scientologists in the sense of
original L. Ron Hubbard anymore.
Barbara Schwarz
Magoo
"Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSc...@excite.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 8, 8:01 pm, "Magoo" <mago...@charter.net> wrote:
> "Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:6f18f2d6-ac2a-41be...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 8, 7:28 pm, "Magoo" <mago...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:8afef139-208f-4ae4...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> > On Nov 7, 7:28 am, Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 7, 1:19 pm, Richard Ford <doorman.f...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ihGepAkECGoDagETVBM...
>
> > And anti-depressants cause suicide.
>
> > And Scientology causes Suicide, too, dearie.
> > Watch "The UnfunnyTruth about
> > Scientology".http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
>
> > I dare ya to watch that.
>
> > Tory/Magoo
>
> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-peter-breggin/antidepressants-cause-...
>
> I hope we don't have to go again through that, Tory, as I think these
> "suicides" were murders but not by Scientologists.
>
> I knew many of these people. They weren't murders. I know 8 young people
> who
> all took their own lives. One I stood over, after he shot himself
> to death. One jumped out of a 15 story window at M.I.T. (University) on L.
> Ron Hubbard's B-day. Was that a murder? I wish you'd wake up and LOOK.
Tory, I know that you think you figured it all out but you have not.
(Based on the opinion of a person who *never* has met me)
I
did exactly that, I LOOKED.
(at what?)
If you are suicidal, Tory,
(Where the Hell did that come from? No, I'm not suicidal---so don't try to
set that up. I've already made posts and videos letting people know
I, Tory Christman, am not suicidal, so IF you find me dead---it's due to
no doubt your group.
you want to stop living and do calculate
for that birthday to do it.
A sick woman---who would say such a thing.
People can be psychiatric implanted and hypnotized to kill themselves.
You are nuttier than I thought.
And psychs cover those murders up as suicides
to blame it on Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard.
Oh GAWD!
> Hubbard's own Dr. Told me "ALL the people who tried to handle Cancer,
> naturally, who came through our clinic are now d e a d".
> So is Dr. Denk, I'm sorry to say, who helped run the joint, which is now
> gone--at least from it's old location.
I don't think that Dr. Denk was truly a Scientologist.
Key word in that sentence: "THINK" You are wrong.
Dr. Denk
accepted an impostor as L. Ron Hubbard. What Scientologists would do
that.
Thanks for proving your insanity still exists.
I don't know Dr. Told is but he might not tell the truth or is
uninformed. L. Ron Hubbard indeed would not have recommended chemo but
natural healing but he is not the only one who would do that. It sees
that the Gerson Institute (founded by a Jewish doc) heals people
naturally and without chemo. He is the one who healed Albert
Schweizer. They claim the opposite of what your Dr. Told claimed. Some
of their patients researched the survival percentage of other cancer
patients. Of 20 people in the same cancer stage, 18 were still alive
after 10 years and while those who got therapy with the same kind of
cancer in the same stage, only 2 of 20 were anymore alive after 5
years.
But you do not have to believe me, make your own research. I know you
come from a medical family but Charlotte Gerson too and she knows that
chemo does not heal but just makes doctors rich and most people die
nevertheless.
Did you see those many videos saying "I am a Scientologist" on
YouTube? One of them is a doctor who apparently prescribes
chemotherapy the other one is a medical inventor. In other words,
forgotten is what L. Ron Hubbard said: heal illnesses naturally not
with chemicals.
>
> Take care,
I do and stay away from the chemicals.
Get help.
Tory/Magoo