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Richard Ford

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Dec 20, 2009, 2:12:51 PM12/20/09
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I have long suspected the Church of Scientology (or more particularly
David Miscavidge) of being anti Semitic. This was not die to any hard
evidence but was more a matter of generalised bad smell eminating from
his direction.


Scientology is terrified of international networks (such as Interpol)
and has a generalised dislike of bankers and of 'psychs'. Both of
these professions are heavily populated by Jews and yet this was not
proof of anti Semitism.


LRH seems a genial and all purpose bigot. He was probably happy to
take money from any race- but he was also happy to play to prejudice
when it suited him. This is why he talked of black people having more
overts than white people while he was in southern Africa. It was also
why he denigrated Mexicans while in the USA.


This would indicate opportunism rather than racism- and yet the bad
smells continued.


We have the peculiar revisionist claims that make religion out to be
the chief victim of the Nazis- and their chief supporters to be the
psychiatric and psychological professions which were
disproportionately Jewish. In effect Scientology has reversed the
moral responsibility for the holocaust so that it is largely a crime
committed by secular Jews against religious people of all persuasions.


Yet still I waited for more evidence.


Another pointer that I was on the right track came when I was invited
to an IAS event. I was read a policy letter that was supposedly
written by LRH that described an international banking conspiracy that
aimed to enslave national governments. The strangest thing about this
meeting was that this issue should be raised at all. The IAS was set
up to promote scientology and yet here it was hinting at an economic
conspiracy that seemed to have nothing to do with scientology.


Clearly the IAS has an agenda of its own- but shares this only with a
selct few.


The banking conspiracy is an age old anti Semitic classic believed in
by Stalin, Hitler and Osama Bin Laden. True- there are present day
advocates of the banking conspiracy who go out of their way to
distance themselves from the anti Semites. Nevertheless, this is yet
one more red flag.


The psycological atmosphere within the church was certainly conducive
to anti semitism and paranoia. There was constant talk of conspiracy
and spies- double agents and defectors. Everything that was not
scientology was suspect.


Now Aaron Saxton has come out and confirmed my every fear (and a few
more).


The logic is hard to follow... but they have the ring of truth. Enjoy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6bjCtWMsOg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46c6cdVjw2c

Hartley Patterson

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Dec 20, 2009, 8:36:28 PM12/20/09
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doorma...@googlemail.com wrote:
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> I have long suspected the Church of Scientology (or more particularly
> David Miscavidge) of being anti Semitic. This was not die to any hard
> evidence but was more a matter of generalised bad smell eminating from
> his direction.

It depends what you mean by 'Jew hater'. LRH was pro-LRH. and the cult is
pro-cult. The beliefs and concerns of the wog world are insignificant
compared to the Universal Truth of Scientology.

Most people seem to me to miss this rather obvious fact. If there is a
perceived advantage to Scientology (TM) to say 'We hate Jews', they will do
so without a moment's hesitation. Next day, they will be supporting the
Jewish religion against Evil Terrorists. The underlying unshakable dogma is
that wogs are stupid and will ignore the lies until it is TOO LATE (cue
evil laugh).

Demagogues and frauds the world over create Enemies to draw attention away
from themselves. Scientology (TM) is a fine example of this. If anyone says
"look over there, look at what those people are doing"... ask them for
facts. Ask them for proof. Ask them to declare their interests.

--
FREEDOM is a trademark owned by
Religious Technology Center
http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk/stolgy_0.htm

LaserClam

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Dec 20, 2009, 9:53:24 PM12/20/09
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On Dec 20, 2:12 pm, Richard Ford <doorman.f...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I have long suspected the Church of Scientology (or more particularly
> David Miscavidge) of being anti Semitic. This was not die to any hard
> evidence but was more a matter of generalised bad smell eminating from
> his direction.
> Scientology is terrified of international networks (such as Interpol)
> and has a generalised dislike of bankers and of 'psychs'. Both of
> these professions are heavily populated by Jews and yet this was not
> proof of anti Semitism.
> LRH seems a genial and all purpose bigot. He was probably happy to
> take money from any race- but he was also happy to play to prejudice
> when it suited him. This is why he talked of black people having more
> overts than white people while he was in southern Africa. It was also
> why he denigrated Mexicans while in the USA.
>

Have you noticed any one
else who has been a bigot?

Richard Ford

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Dec 21, 2009, 1:06:59 AM12/21/09
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Hartley,

What you say is 100% true but it might also apply to the National
Socialists in Germany. They had the same need to distract the Germans
from their military defeat and so they alighted upon the Jews. We
cannot conclude therefore that the Sea Org is not serious simply
because it works the same way.

I will try to get Aaron to produce a film that makes more sense.

xenufrance

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Dec 21, 2009, 7:22:43 AM12/21/09
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Have you noticed any one
else who has been a bigot?

l. ron?


Eldon

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Dec 21, 2009, 7:54:13 AM12/21/09
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On Dec 21, 7:06 am, Richard Ford <doorman.f...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 21 Dec, 02:53, LaserClam <LaserC...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 20, 2:12 pm, Richard Ford <doorman.f...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I have long suspected the Church of Scientology (or more particularly
> > > David Miscavidge) of being anti Semitic. This was not die to any hard
> > > evidence but was more a matter of generalised bad smell eminating from
> > > his direction.
> > > Scientology is terrified of international networks (such as Interpol)
> > > and has a generalised dislike of bankers and of 'psychs'. Both of
> > > these professions are heavily populated by Jews and yet this was not
> > > proof of anti Semitism.
> > > LRH seems a genial and all purpose bigot. He was probably happy to
> > > take money from any race- but he was also happy to play to prejudice
> > > when it suited him. This is why he talked of black people having more
> > > overts than white people while he was in southern Africa. It was also
> > > why he denigrated Mexicans while in the USA.
>
> >        Have you noticed any one
> >        else who has been a bigot?
>
> Hartley,
>
> What you say is 100% true but it might also apply to the National
> Socialists in Germany. They had the same need to distract the Germans
> from their military defeat and so they alighted upon the Jews.

It wasn't something Hitler just made up. He had widespread popular
support and some "evidence" to support antisemitism. Jewish merchants
enjoyed some economic advantages --like readily extending credit to
each other-- that enabled them to prosper even in a lousy economy. So
they were easy to scapegoat.

Hartley Patterson

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Dec 21, 2009, 12:51:44 PM12/21/09
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doorma...@googlemail.com wrote:

> What you say is 100% true but it might also apply to the National
> Socialists in Germany. They had the same need to distract the Germans
> from their military defeat and so they alighted upon the Jews.

The original persecution of the Jews (and Socialists, homosexuals, Jehovahs
Witnesses, gypsies, any minority) was to gain popularity, but the Nazis
came to believe their own propaganda about keeping the Aryan race pure.
The full scale gas oven holocaust only started when Germany was already
losing the war, and was done in secret.

Group hate is something the human race is very fond of. Is Anonymous
rickrolling outside an Org group hating?
I'd hope there is a difference. Anonymous has a healthy "dox or STFU"
attitude, and doesn't listen uncritically to leaders. I don't see that when
I look at YouTube videos of protesters against... well I won't name
particular current causes for fear of diverting the thread!

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