> Desperate for a win after a series of embarrassing defeats in the
> fight that they picked with Chick-fil-a, the LGBT thought police have
> filed multiple lawsuits against the franchise chain. It's about
> public accommodation, the same kind of lawsuit that two lesbians filed
> against a Christian photographer in New Mexico for declining to do
> their "commitment ceremovny."
> The Civil Rights Agenda Files Complaints Against Chick-fil-A
> August 2, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA),
> Illinois’ largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil
> rights advocacy organization, working with cooperating attorneys and
> on behalf of claimants, filed multiple complaints against Chick-fil-A
> with The Illinois Department of Human Rights. Among other things, the
> complaints allege that Chick-fil-A’s “intolerant corporate culture”
> violates Illinois law, specifically Section 5-102(B) of the Human
> Rights Act, which prohibits a “public accommodation” from making
> protected classes “unwelcome, objectionable or unacceptable.”
> “In our current high speed media and social media environment,
> Chick-fil-A has announced and caused to be published, to hundreds of
> millions of people, that LGBT people are unacceptable and
> objectionable,” said Jacob Meister, Governing Board President of The
> Civil Rights Agenda and the attorney who filed the complaint. “They
> have made it clear the lives of LGBT individuals are unacceptable to
> them and that same-gender families are unwelcome at Chick-fil-A.”
> In article <b46af936-2bd9-4b70-b7fa-
> a06c05e923ba@googlegroups.com>
> Mike Cullinan <mgcul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Desperate for a win after a series of embarrassing defeats in the
>> fight that they picked with Chick-fil-a, the LGBT thought police have
>> filed multiple lawsuits against the franchise chain. It's about
>> public accommodation, the same kind of lawsuit that two lesbians filed
>> against a Christian photographer in New Mexico for declining to do
>> their "commitment ceremovny."
>> The Civil Rights Agenda Files Complaints Against Chick-fil-A
>> August 2, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA),
>> Illinois’ largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil
>> rights advocacy organization, working with cooperating attorneys and
>> on behalf of claimants, filed multiple complaints against Chick-fil-A
>> with The Illinois Department of Human Rights. Among other things, the
>> complaints allege that Chick-fil-A’s “intolerant corporate culture”
>> violates Illinois law, specifically Section 5-102(B) of the Human
>> Rights Act, which prohibits a “public accommodation” from making
>> protected classes “unwelcome, objectionable or unacceptable.”
>> “In our current high speed media and social media environment,
>> Chick-fil-A has announced and caused to be published, to hundreds of
>> millions of people, that LGBT people are unacceptable and
>> objectionable,” said Jacob Meister, Governing Board President of The
>> Civil Rights Agenda and the attorney who filed the complaint. “They
>> have made it clear the lives of LGBT individuals are unacceptable to
>> them and that same-gender families are unwelcome at Chick-fil-A.”
> Chick-fil-A should counter sue targeting homosexuals as a public
> health menace.
This is a frivolous law suit if there ever was one. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with a corporate head saying that his personal view is that marriage should be only between one man and one woman.
Gays and lesbians can take it or leave it. But they cannot sue.
Chick-fil-A can give 100% of its corporate earnings to fight gay and lesbian causes, and there is absolutely nothing gays and lesbians can do except refuse to participate in the accumulation of those profits.
If this case showed up in my court room, I'd toss it faster than a flaming chicken, no pun intended.
> In article <b46af936-2bd9-4b70-b7fa-
> a06c05e923ba@googlegroups.com>
> Mike Cullinan <mgcul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Desperate for a win after a series of embarrassing defeats in the
>> fight that they picked with Chick-fil-a, the LGBT thought police have
>> filed multiple lawsuits against the franchise chain. It's about
>> public accommodation, the same kind of lawsuit that two lesbians filed
>> against a Christian photographer in New Mexico for declining to do
>> their "commitment ceremovny."
>> The Civil Rights Agenda Files Complaints Against Chick-fil-A
>> August 2, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA),
>> Illinois’ largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil
>> rights advocacy organization, working with cooperating attorneys and
>> on behalf of claimants, filed multiple complaints against Chick-fil-A
>> with The Illinois Department of Human Rights. Among other things, the
>> complaints allege that Chick-fil-A’s “intolerant corporate culture”
>> violates Illinois law, specifically Section 5-102(B) of the Human
>> Rights Act, which prohibits a “public accommodation” from making
>> protected classes “unwelcome, objectionable or unacceptable.”
>> “In our current high speed media and social media environment,
>> Chick-fil-A has announced and caused to be published, to hundreds of
>> millions of people, that LGBT people are unacceptable and
>> objectionable,” said Jacob Meister, Governing Board President of The
>> Civil Rights Agenda and the attorney who filed the complaint. “They
>> have made it clear the lives of LGBT individuals are unacceptable to
>> them and that same-gender families are unwelcome at Chick-fil-A.”
>>> Desperate for a win after a series of embarrassing defeats in the
>>> fight that they picked with Chick-fil-a, the LGBT thought police have
>>> filed multiple lawsuits against the franchise chain. It's about
>>> public accommodation, the same kind of lawsuit that two lesbians filed
>>> against a Christian photographer in New Mexico for declining to do
>>> their "commitment ceremovny."
>>> The Civil Rights Agenda Files Complaints Against Chick-fil-A
>>> August 2, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA),
>>> Illinois’ largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil
>>> rights advocacy organization, working with cooperating attorneys and
>>> on behalf of claimants, filed multiple complaints against Chick-fil-A
>>> with The Illinois Department of Human Rights. Among other things, the
>>> complaints allege that Chick-fil-A’s “intolerant corporate culture”
>>> violates Illinois law, specifically Section 5-102(B) of the Human
>>> Rights Act, which prohibits a “public accommodation” from making
>>> protected classes “unwelcome, objectionable or unacceptable.”
>>> “In our current high speed media and social media environment,
>>> Chick-fil-A has announced and caused to be published, to hundreds of
>>> millions of people, that LGBT people are unacceptable and
>>> objectionable,” said Jacob Meister, Governing Board President of The
>>> Civil Rights Agenda and the attorney who filed the complaint. “They
>>> have made it clear the lives of LGBT individuals are unacceptable to
>>> them and that same-gender families are unwelcome at Chick-fil-A.”
>> Chick-fil-A should counter sue targeting homosexuals as a public
>> health menace.
> This is a frivolous law suit if there ever was one. There is absolutely
> NOTHING wrong with a corporate head saying that his personal view is
> that marriage should be only between one man and one woman.
> Gays and lesbians can take it or leave it. But they cannot sue.
> Chick-fil-A can give 100% of its corporate earnings to fight gay and
> lesbian causes, and there is absolutely nothing gays and lesbians can do
> except refuse to participate in the accumulation of those profits.
> If this case showed up in my court room, I'd toss it faster than a
> flaming chicken, no pun intended.
Chick-Fil-A should charge those Gay groups and persons in a law suit,
with violating their right to free speech by suing them and costing them
money to use their free speech, just like the PHOTO ID being required
costs people money to vote then this lawsuit costs people money to
exercise free speech. Then sue them for punitive costs to nail them to
the wall for frivolous law suits like that.
Suddenly they would think twice before suing for nothing but to cost you
money in lawyers fees. And We all supported Chick-Fil-A so maybe they
could file a cross suit for all of us....
--
*Rumination*
#60 - "Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S.
Senators.... which at times are, one and the same."
> In article <b46af936-2bd9-4b70-b7fa-
> a06c05e923ba@googlegroups.com>
> Mike Cullinan <mgcul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Desperate for a win after a series of embarrassing defeats in the
> > fight that they picked with Chick-fil-a, the LGBT thought police have
> > filed multiple lawsuits against the franchise chain. It's about
> > public accommodation, the same kind of lawsuit that two lesbians filed
> > against a Christian photographer in New Mexico for declining to do
> > their "commitment ceremovny."
> > The Civil Rights Agenda Files Complaints Against Chick-fil-A
> > August 2, 2012 Chicago, Illinois The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA),
> > Illinois largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil
> > rights advocacy organization, working with cooperating attorneys and
> > on behalf of claimants, filed multiple complaints against Chick-fil-A
> > with The Illinois Department of Human Rights. Among other things, the
> > complaints allege that Chick-fil-A s intolerant corporate culture
> > violates Illinois law, specifically Section 5-102(B) of the Human
> > Rights Act, which prohibits a public accommodation from making
> > protected classes unwelcome, objectionable or unacceptable.
> > In our current high speed media and social media environment,
> > Chick-fil-A has announced and caused to be published, to hundreds of
> > millions of people, that LGBT people are unacceptable and
> > objectionable, said Jacob Meister, Governing Board President of The
> > Civil Rights Agenda and the attorney who filed the complaint. They
> > have made it clear the lives of LGBT individuals are unacceptable to
> > them and that same-gender families are unwelcome at Chick-fil-A.
So what they're basically saying, when all their rhetoric is boiled down to its essentials, is that business owners in America no longer enjoy either freedom of speech or freedom of religion.
> >> Desperate for a win after a series of embarrassing defeats in the
> >> fight that they picked with Chick-fil-a, the LGBT thought police have
> >> filed multiple lawsuits against the franchise chain. It's about
> >> public accommodation, the same kind of lawsuit that two lesbians filed
> >> against a Christian photographer in New Mexico for declining to do
> >> their "commitment ceremovny."
> >> The Civil Rights Agenda Files Complaints Against Chick-fil-A
> >> August 2, 2012 Chicago, Illinois The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA),
> >> Illinois¹ largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil
> >> rights advocacy organization, working with cooperating attorneys and
> >> on behalf of claimants, filed multiple complaints against Chick-fil-A
> >> with The Illinois Department of Human Rights. Among other things, the
> >> complaints allege that Chick-fil-A¹s ³intolerant corporate culture²
> >> violates Illinois law, specifically Section 5-102(B) of the Human
> >> Rights Act, which prohibits a ³public accommodation² from making
> >> protected classes ³unwelcome, objectionable or unacceptable.²
> >> ³In our current high speed media and social media environment,
> >> Chick-fil-A has announced and caused to be published, to hundreds of
> >> millions of people, that LGBT people are unacceptable and
> >> objectionable,² said Jacob Meister, Governing Board President of The
> >> Civil Rights Agenda and the attorney who filed the complaint. ³They
> >> have made it clear the lives of LGBT individuals are unacceptable to
> >> them and that same-gender families are unwelcome at Chick-fil-A.²
> > Chick-fil-A should counter sue targeting homosexuals as a public
> > health menace.
> This is a frivolous law suit if there ever was one. There is absolutely > NOTHING wrong with a corporate head saying that his personal view is that > marriage should be only between one man and one woman.
> Gays and lesbians can take it or leave it. But they cannot sue.
Unfortunately in today's America, they can sue but they're very unlikely to win.
> In article
> <cceedbc0de10039b20bf6aaa11951...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
> "Abortion, It Prevents Fags" <ab...@queers.com> wrote:
>> In article <b46af936-2bd9-4b70-b7fa-
>> a06c05e923ba@googlegroups.com>
>> Mike Cullinan <mgcul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Desperate for a win after a series of embarrassing defeats in the
>> > fight that they picked with Chick-fil-a, the LGBT thought police have
>> > filed multiple lawsuits against the franchise chain. It's about
>> > public accommodation, the same kind of lawsuit that two lesbians filed
>> > against a Christian photographer in New Mexico for declining to do
>> > their "commitment ceremovny."
>> > The Civil Rights Agenda Files Complaints Against Chick-fil-A
>> > August 2, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA),
>> > Illinois’ largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil
>> > rights advocacy organization, working with cooperating attorneys and
>> > on behalf of claimants, filed multiple complaints against Chick-fil-A
>> > with The Illinois Department of Human Rights. Among other things, the
>> > complaints allege that Chick-fil-A’s “intolerant corporate culture”
>> > violates Illinois law, specifically Section 5-102(B) of the Human
>> > Rights Act, which prohibits a “public accommodation” from making
>> > protected classes “unwelcome, objectionable or unacceptable.”
>> > “In our current high speed media and social media environment,
>> > Chick-fil-A has announced and caused to be published, to hundreds of
>> > millions of people, that LGBT people are unacceptable and
>> > objectionable,” said Jacob Meister, Governing Board President of The
>> > Civil Rights Agenda and the attorney who filed the complaint. “They
>> > have made it clear the lives of LGBT individuals are unacceptable to
>> > them and that same-gender families are unwelcome at Chick-fil-A.”
> So what they're basically saying, when all their rhetoric is boiled down
> to its essentials, is that business owners in America no longer enjoy
> either freedom of speech or freedom of religion.
Well, business owners certainly enjoy both the freedom of religion and the freedom of speech, as long as the LGBT community approves it. It's okay to hate-speech against people that are not gay or lesbian. Surely you know that! Gays and lesbians are the pinnicle of tolerance, all that they say and do is okay, but nothing you say or do about them is to be permitted in any way at any time. This includes your speech that merely says, "I do not approve of that and wish they would just shut up and move on. Come into my business, or not. I simply do not care. And I will fold my profits into activities that promote my faith."
I don't care who comes in the front door of my business, and they should not care what happens to the money I take out the back door. It is my money, and I will buy the stuff I want, whether you approve of what I buy or not. You are not forced to line up in front of my store to buy my products, and now that you know where I stand on issues that are important to you, I suspect you will not volunteer to stand in line in front of my store anymore. (Author's note, by the turnouts on Aug.1 and again on Aug. 3, I don't think the sales at Chick-fil-A will be going down anytime soon. for every gay and lesbian that buys a chicken sandwich at another store, there are three new customers that will only buy chiccken sandwiches at Chick-fil-A from now on.)
The gay and lesbian community can "feel" unwanted or unwelcome all that they want, but the truth is there is no sign in the lobby that proclaims they are not allowed to have a sandwich here. Just because they feel something does not make it so.
On Aug 11, 7:53 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If this case showed up in my court room, I'd toss it faster than a flaming
> chicken, no pun intended.
And what about tort reform such that any party filing such a frivolous
suit be liable for court costs and costs to the defendant?
Chick-fil-a is based in Georgia which at least has loser pays court
costs, but , of course, LGBT will use either federal law, or Illinois
law, which encourages such ridiculous suits [See Herman Cain]
> > Desperate for a win after a series of embarrassing defeats in the
> > fight that they picked with Chick-fil-a, the LGBT thought police have
> > filed multiple lawsuits against the franchise chain. It's about
> > public accommodation, the same kind of lawsuit that two lesbians filed
> > against a Christian photographer in New Mexico for declining to do
> > their "commitment ceremovny."
> > The Civil Rights Agenda Files Complaints Against Chick-fil-A
> > August 2, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA),
> > Illinois’ largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil
> > rights advocacy organization, working with cooperating attorneys and
> > on behalf of claimants, filed multiple complaints against Chick-fil-A
> > with The Illinois Department of Human Rights. Among other things, the
> > complaints allege that Chick-fil-A’s “intolerant corporate culture”
> > violates Illinois law, specifically Section 5-102(B) of the Human
> > Rights Act, which prohibits a “public accommodation” from making
> > protected classes “unwelcome, objectionable or unacceptable.”
> > “In our current high speed media and social media environment,
> > Chick-fil-A has announced and caused to be published, to hundreds of
> > millions of people, that LGBT people are unacceptable and
> > objectionable,” said Jacob Meister, Governing Board President of The
> > Civil Rights Agenda and the attorney who filed the complaint. “They
> > have made it clear the lives of LGBT individuals are unacceptable to
> > them and that same-gender families are unwelcome at Chick-fil-A.”
Because in the US, it first appeared in large numbers among the homosexual community. Deaths among heterosexuals were not connected to AIDS until later. And they didn't trace the origins to heterosexuals until later.
Much like calling PTSD "shell-shock."
A name will evolve with understanding.
..
-- We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us
> > If this case showed up in my court room, I'd toss it faster than a flaming
> > chicken, no pun intended.
> And what about tort reform such that any party filing such a frivolous
> suit be liable for court costs and costs to the defendant?
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> What about simply dismissing the suit as frivolous in the first minute of
> court?
Because there are incompetent and/or evil judges, and the purpose of
tort reform is to balance the power of the judiciary with the
legislature -- something that people seem to forget is possible.
