Hail Mary, Co-Redeemer...

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According to the Roman Catholic Church, Mary's sufferings were so intense that they brought her to
the very threshold of death. She, says the RCC, " participated with Jesus Christ in the very painful
act of redemption " Pope Pius XI, Explorata Res.

the above declaration by Pope Pius Xl, which certainly has no basis in Holy Scripture, is enough
to show the world that Jesus Christ alone is not enough to redeem sinners as far as the Catholic
hierarchy is concerned. we see right from its beginnings the road is being paved for the RCC, the
Orthodox Church and all of their splinter groups to push Jesus Christ from His Throne in order to
place on it a mere human.

another Pope concur's... " Mary suffered and, as it were, nearly died with her suffering Son; for
the salvation of mankind she renounced her mother's rights and, as far as it depended on her,
offered her Son to placate divine justice; so we may well say that she with Christ redeemed mankind.
" Pope Benedict XV

Jesus Christ Eternal God is not enough for this Pope either.

though the Bible says that without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness
( Heb. 9:22 ) and forgiveness is granted only by the Living God, ( Ps. 3:8 ) here we have a people
who counter God by saying Mary " participated with Jesus Christ in the very painful act of
redemption... so we may well say that she with Christ redeemed mankind. " what blood did Mary ever
shed ?

being that the Word of God, the Bible, the 66 Books of Holy Scripture which contain the whole of
God's Word to us completed and in full, tells us that redemption was accomplished by God * before *
He ever created the universe and all things in it as we read in Rev. 13:8 for example, Mary wasn't
even come into the world at the time redemption of the wheat took place.

so twisted is the dogma that a polluted sinner, in dire need of redemption herself, should have
aided in the salvation of the chosen ones in any way, leaves the elect to conclude that such a
doctrine is spawned by Satan himself and brought forth into the world by his minister's for the
purpose of diminishing the work of Christ Himself. it's only too bad that Abel, Noah, Abraham,
Moses and all of the rest of the OT elect could not have been redeemed having been born too early to
reap the benefits of Mary's redemptive act.

where are they then ? in Catholic hell ? in Catholic limbo ? in Catholic Purgatory ?

this moves the Living God to have Apostle John write saying... " Who is a liar but he that denieth
that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. " 1 Jn.2:22

thanks be to the Living God that the elect are not deceived by these who preach
co-redemption, Polytheism, and the worship of created being's.

[Merlin]

Mary was fashioned after the image and message of Isis.

in love,

merlin

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[Merlin]

On May 15, 5:56 am, § <> wrote:

[Merlin]

On May 15, 5:56 am, § <> wrote:

Mary was fashioned after the image and message of Isis.

in love,

merlin

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[James]

Merlin <merli...@gmail.com>

And the Bible is clear as to whom salvation belongs. Joh 14:6,

"Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one
comes to the Father except through me."" (NIV)

James
John 4:23,24
www.jw.org

[Merlin]

On May 22, 10:53 am, James <1ri...@windstream.net> wrote:

> >Mary was fashioned after the image and message of Isis.
>
> And the Bible is clear as to whom salvation belongs. Joh 14:6,

we were commenting the reality and the origins of Mary.

Jesus was adopted from the image of Isis's husband Osiris who was also
murdered and brought back to life by the long suffering Isis.

Jesus is the greek son god also.

>
> "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one
> comes to the Father except through me."" (NIV)

that is a miss quote.

the actually quote goes more along the lines, when I am with the
father, we are one, no one come to the father except they be in the
way and the truth and life.

it is your form of christianity that demands the worship of the man
jesus to get to God. This is not true in all christians religions.
For Jesus thought us that we can all be brothers and sisters of Jesus
with the Father God, that we all have the christ within us and that is
our true relationship with God the Father.

We don't win salvation by worshipping Jesus, we learn of our eternal
life by our growing relationship with the Father God as taught to us
by jesus life.

>
> James
> John 4:23,24www.jw.org

James got it wrong, for James has put Jesus between us and God, where
Jesus said we don't need anyone or any group between us and god, as
his religion developed outside of all existing religions.

The truth is the spiritual connect each of us has with God that few of
us attempt to use or connect with that matters.

in love,

merlin
>
>
>
>
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[James]

Merlin <merli...@gmail.com>

>On May 22, 10:53�am, James <1ri...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>> >Mary was fashioned after the image and message of Isis.
>>
>> And the Bible is clear as to whom salvation belongs. Joh 14:6,
>
>we were commenting the reality and the origins of Mary.
>
>Jesus was adopted from the image of Isis's husband Osiris who was also
>murdered and brought back to life by the long suffering Isis.
>
>Jesus is the greek son god also.
>>
>> "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one
>> comes to the Father except through me."" (NIV)
>
>that is a miss quote.

Alright, let's see how some other Bibles translate the Greek words
there:

-- King James
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the
life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

-- New King James
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life.
No one comes to the Father except through Me.

-- American Standard
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the
life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me.

-- Living Bible
John 14:6 Jesus told him, ``I am the Way--yes, and the Truth and the
Life. No one can get to the Father except by means of me.

-- Revised Standard
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the
life; no one comes to the Father, but by me.

-- Simple English
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, ``I am the way and the truth and the
life! The only way anyone can come to the Father is through me!

-- Romanized
John 14:6 L gei auto ho Ieeso s, E'go eimi hee Hod s ka hee Ale theia
ka hee Zooe . Oude s rchetai pr s t n Pat ra ei me di emo .

-- Romanized, unaccented
John 14:6 Legei autoo ho Ieesous, Egoo eimi hee Hodos kai hee
Aleetheia kai hee Zooee. Oudeis erchetai pros ton Patera ei mee di
emou.

-- New American Standard
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the
life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me.

-- New Jerusalem with Apocrypha
John 14:6 Jesus said:
I am the Way; I am Truth and Life.
No one can come to the Father except through me.


-- New American with Apocrypha
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way and the truth and the

life. No one comes to the Father except through me.



>

>the actually quote goes more along the lines, when I am with the
>father, we are one, no one come to the father except they be in the
>way and the truth and life.

But according to the Scriptures, they must go THROUGH Jesus to get to
God.

A literal translation of the Greek word for word reads:

"Is saying to him Jesus I am the way and the truth and the life: no
one is coming toward the Father if not through me. (The Kingdom
Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures)

>
>it is your form of christianity that demands the worship of the man
>jesus to get to God.

My "form of christianity" does not worship Jesus, because the Bible
says that Jesus was a created being. Col 1:15,

" who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all
creation; " (ASV)

And like Jesus himself said when talking to the Devil: Mt 4:10,

"Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship
the Lord your God, and serve him only.'"" (NIV)

Notice worship and serve 'God only'.

James
John 4:23,24
www.jw.org