Postmodernism: I need your help...

[ted boodle]

Richard Kerr <R.K...@perspolicy.usyd.edu.au> wrote:
>
> Rowland Croucher wrote:
> > ***MODERNISM*** ***POSTMODERNISM***
> >
> Definitive Art: Cubism. Definitive Art: Eclecticism.
> Everything can be reduced to its There is no such thing as
> components and entirely understood. meaning (cf Surrealism
> in which meaning is
> deliberately absent.)
>
> Definitive Architecture: Definitive Architecture:
> Bauhaus. Are you kidding? What's
> Form is function. An object is what functional about an Opera
> it does. House that's too small to
> stage Grand Opera?
>
> Definitive Jewellery: Definitive Jewellery
> Versace. No individual artisan Junk Jewellery. It doesn't
> recognised (or recognisable). Only to be good. It just has to
> 'the timeless style' is important. go with what your wearing.
>
> Definitive Fashion: Definitive Fashion:
> Dior, Channel: Clothes must embody Individualism. Everybody
> personality and occasion. wears jeans and T-shirts
> everywhere.
> --
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>
> Richard Kerr
> Information Technology Education Manager
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[Igor Siemienowicz]

ted boodle wrote:
> > > ***MODERNISM*** ***POSTMODERNISM***

> > Definitive Art: Cubism. Definitive Art: Eclecticism.
> > Everything can be reduced to its There is no such thing as
> > components and entirely understood. meaning (cf Surrealism
> > in which meaning is
> > deliberately absent.)

[ ... Many good comparisons snipped ... ]

I thought most of these were very good, including the one above. I'm
just not certain that the statement 'There is no such thing as meaning'
is truly a characteristic of postmodernism. Certainly, it holds that
there is no such thing as absolute meaning, but it also demands the
CONSTRUCTION of meaning from subjective viewpoints.

Italo Calvino's book 'If on a Winter's night a traveller' is a good
example. It does not specifically deny meaning, but challenges the
reader to form his or her own meaning from the words.

--
Igor Siemienowicz
ig...@onaustralia.com.au

[Richard Kerr]

Igor Siemienowicz wrote:
>
> ted boodle wrote:
> > > > ***MODERNISM*** ***POSTMODERNISM***
>
> > > Definitive Art: Cubism. Definitive Art: Eclecticism.
> > > Everything can be reduced to its There is no such thing as
> > > components and entirely understood. meaning (cf Surrealism
> > > in which meaning is
> > > deliberately absent.)

The attribution is wrong. I wrote those comparisons. I don't know what
Mr Boodle was trying to say, his article quoted mine, without
attribution, and contained no original text.

> [ ... Many good comparisons snipped ... ]
> I thought most of these were very good, including the one above.

Thanks, you've made my day.

> I'm
> just not certain that the statement 'There is no such thing as meaning'
> is truly a characteristic of postmodernism. Certainly, it holds that
> there is no such thing as absolute meaning, but it also demands the
> CONSTRUCTION of meaning from subjective viewpoints.

How about: Eclecticism: In which there is no absolute meaning (cf
Surrealism: In which there is absolutley no meaning)?

> Italo Calvino's book 'If on a Winter's night a traveller' is a good
> example. It does not specifically deny meaning, but challenges the
> reader to form his or her own meaning from the words.

I'll check it out.

[Robert Gilland]

R>> ted boodle wrote:
>> > > > ***MODERNISM*** ***POSTMODERNISM***
>>
>> > > Definitive Art: Cubism. Definitive Art: Eclecticism.
>> > > Everything can be reduced to its There is no such thing as
>> > > components and entirely understood. meaning (cf Surrealism
>> > > in which meaning is
>> > > deliberately absent.)

I think you should all read the book "Post Evangelical" I picked
it up from the OPEN bookshop in Brisbane which I beleive is a lutheran
bookshop.

This is a whole book devoted to the subject. I personally
beleive myself to e a post-modernist and a post evangelical.

In that I mean truth is everywhere. I am definitely not a Cubist.

I also (you may find this hard to beleive) beleive in the total
inspiration of the scriptures. i.e. the bible was written by
people who know God (Past-Present-Future infinitive)

[Igor Siemienowicz]

Robert Gilland wrote:

> R>> ted boodle wrote:
> >> > > > ***MODERNISM*** ***POSTMODERNISM***
> >>
> >> > > Definitive Art: Cubism. Definitive Art: Eclecticism.
> >> > > Everything can be reduced to its There is no such thing as
> >> > > components and entirely understood. meaning (cf Surrealism
> >> > > in which meaning is
> >> > > deliberately absent.)

> I think you should all read the book "Post Evangelical" I picked
> it up from the OPEN bookshop in Brisbane which I beleive is a lutheran
> bookshop.

> This is a whole book devoted to the subject. I personally
> beleive myself to e a post-modernist and a post evangelical.

That's interesting. How do you reconcile yourself to total subjectivity
in the light of the absolutes of good and evil given in the Bible?

--
Igor Siemienowicz
ig...@onaustralia.com.au