Fundamentalists why aren't you one cult?
Shan
Word of God to the letter, why are you like Medusa's hair-do a
thousand thousand snakes of cults?
brachypodium
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> Since all of you literalist fundamentalists claim that you follow the
> Word of God to the letter, why are you like Medusa's hair-do a
> thousand thousand snakes of cults?<
So there was no such person as Mary. All those candles, for nothing!
Blobert!
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Mary do they have?????????
Blobert!
"On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the
Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).
On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6
years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty &ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of
inactive standby reserves
Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and
18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year,
and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject
to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a
commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against
his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during
time of war.
It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable
discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have
ended July 1, 1972.
Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from
active US Navy duty falsely states, "My current regular period of obligated
service would be completed in December of this year."
On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower
Center in Bainbridge, Maryland.
Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready
Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per
year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been
released?
Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve
Center where Kerry drilled?
On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve - Inactive.
On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.
Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist,
while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:
1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies, where the Vietcong flag was displayed
while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and
comfort to the enemy.
2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members
of the US Senate.
3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate
about crimes committed in Vietnam.
4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and
condemned the military and the USA.
5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct
violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.
6. Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S. Code
while serving as a Navy officer.
7. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S.
Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in
direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18
&U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists
while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed,
also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section
3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of
warfare.
The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3 , states, "No person
shall be a Senator or representative in Congress, or elector of President
and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath...to support the
Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or
rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL
SEAL Authentication Team - Director AuthentiSEAL
chri...@velocitus.net
you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :
>Since all of you literalist fundamentalists claim that you follow the
>Word of God to the letter, why are you like Medusa's hair-do a
>thousand thousand snakes of cults?
It depends upon who you are "lumping together" and calling
"fundamentalists." Are you including the idiots of the rcc who beat
themselves with whips and have themselves nailed to crosses each
easter?
You can lump any variation of groups together for any purpose and
attack them, but you cannot be honest when you do so.
Why don't you simply see if you can fix the heresies of the rcc before
vilifying people you have lumped together who may or may not
(depending on who you decide they are) deserve to be lumped?
Christian
Brenda G. Kent
Calling each other idiots and stupid and imbeciles does not bring one
closer to God in my beliefs.
Kindnesses love and respect for others bring us closer to God in my
opinion.
Bren
--
::: vera :::
They don't.
You are a witch, and I repect you for that. It takes faith to be a witch, no
question.
But you are not a Christian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your master is not Jesus Christ, but the devil. That's normal for witches,
Brenda.
But for some reason you cannot accept that. Maybe you think you can leave
the door open by this? Wrong - there is just ONE path that leads to Heaven,
and it is NOT yours.
You cannot be both.
::: vera :::
--
::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de :::
::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm :::
Mike Andrade
news:Pine.GSO.4.58.04...@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca:
Thank you. I was beginning to wonder where the adults went.
--
Mike
"No thanks, I'm just looking."
Pastor Dave
Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:06:49 +0200, "::: vera :::"
<ver...@acc-growing-deeper.de> screamed out:
>In news:Pine.GSO.4.58.04...@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca,
>Brenda G. Kent <wt...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
>> Why do others have to put down other faiths?
>
>They don't.
>
>You are a witch, and I respect you for that.
I don't.
>But you are not a Christian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Your master is not Jesus Christ, but the devil. That's normal for witches,
>Brenda.
Amen!
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"Were they ashamed when they made an abomination?
They were not at all ashamed, nor did they know
to blush. So they shall fall among those who fall.
At the time I visit them, they shall be cast down,
says Jehovah." - Jeremiah 6:15
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
/
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was asked if he could comprehend how Jesus Christ
could be both God and man. "No, sir," he replied,
and added, "I should be ashamed to acknowledge Him
as my Savior if I could comprehend Him. If I could
comprehend Him, He could be no greater than myself.
Such is my sense of sin, and consciousness of my
inability to save myself, that I feel I need a
superhuman Savior, one so great and glorious that
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Are you suggesting your war criminal Gush is a better deal?
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Mark T
I wish they would answer this guy's questions ....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dear fundamentalist leader
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's law. I have
learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge with as
many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle,
for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to
be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however,
regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.
When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing
odour for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbours. They claim the
odour is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this?
I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in Exodus
21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period
of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I
have tried asking, but most women take offence.
Lev. 25:44 states that I may I may indeed possess slaves, both male and
female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of
mine claims that this applies to Indonesians but not New Zealanders. Can you
clarify? Why can't I own New Zealanders?
I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2
clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him
myself?
A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination
(Lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree.
Can you settle this?
Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a
defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear prescription glasses. Does
my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me
unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around
their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How
should they die?
My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops
in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two
different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse
and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of
getting the whole town together to stone them (Lev.24:10-16) Couldn't we
just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people
who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can
help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and
unchanging.
Sincerely,
Moi!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Peter Terry
"Brenda G. Kent" <wt...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote in message
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> Why do others have to put down other faiths?
>
anything about bigoted religious history?
PeterT
> Bren
>
> --
>
chri...@velocitus.net
you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :
Jesus called the Pharisees "a brood of vipers" and other names
sometimes because they taught false doctrines, so we are in good
company. Some folks tend to spend almost all their time doing that
though, and Jesus never did that.
Christian
chri...@velocitus.net
you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :
She is a witch. That is not "adult."
Christian
Mike Andrade
news:eap7j09abausbglc6...@4ax.com:
Do you mean she is a Wiccan? Or are you insulting her?
Brenda G. Kent
:)
Blessings
Bren
--
Brenda G. Kent
I don't believe in the Devil as a being.
My God is God.
Please stop saying lies about me and what I believe in or follow.
Blessings
Bren
--
Brenda G. Kent
Jesus called the Pharisees "a brood of vipers" and other names
sometimes because they taught false doctrines, so we are in good
company. Some folks tend to spend almost all their time doing that
though, and Jesus never did that.
Christian
Bren says: Well in the Bible it says that Jesus said this..but we don't
know for certain. Jesus was human to a point.....even he turned over the
tables in the temple in anger (so the Bible says) but he more than likely
did not spend a lot of time insulting folks.
Blessings
Bren
--
Brenda G. Kent
Christian
Bren says: I beg your pardon? The majority of witches out there are
adults. Please don't put down people just because you don't agree with
them.
That is like saying "he is a doctor...that is not adult".
Blessings
Bren
--
Brenda G. Kent
>
Do you mean she is a Wiccan? Or are you insulting her?
Bren says: I am a Wiccan witch and to be called that is in no way an
insult to me. It is like someone calling someone "a doctor".....no insult
in that.
Blessings
Bren
--
Jani
<chri...@velocitus.net> wrote in message
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If all Christians were judged by the squabbling that goes on on the
Christian ngs, one might reasonably suppose that Christians were far from
adult :)
Jani
Jani
"Mike Andrade" <m...@box.invalid> wrote in message
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There were witches long before Wicca was invented. But yes, "brenda" does
call herself a witch, so it can hardly be an insult in this context.
Jani
pedro
Even far from Christian.. :)
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Pete.
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but nobody bothers to ask you the questions'
Jani
"J W @yoohoo.com>" <jw<no> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:07:21 -0700, "Brenda G. Kent"
> <wt...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
>
> >Sorry Dave.
> >
> >I don't believe in the Devil as a being.
> >
> >My God is God.
> >
> >Please stop saying lies about me and what I believe in or follow.
>
> witch.
>
> And you not believing in Satan is amusing. I have known half-a-dozen
> witches and warlocks (male witch). ALL denied that they believed in
> Satan/Lucifer, Beelzebub, and said that they worshipped "the horned
> one". The "horned one" is merely another title for Satan.
Wrong way round. Images of horned deities preceded Christianity, and
medieval Christianity borrowed the iconography to illustrate their concept
of Satan.
>
> Which means that witches/warlocks, "horned one" worshippers can't even
> honestly admit that they do.
>
> They fool only themselves.
Why should they "admit" to following a belief system completely different
from their own? You might as well have reconstructionist Mithraens saying
that Christians don't "admit" they really follow Mithras.
Jani
Jani
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> Jani wrote:
>
> > <chri...@velocitus.net> wrote in message
> > news:eap7j09abausbglc6...@4ax.com...
> >
> >>Hello Mike Andrade <m...@box.invalid>,
> >>you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :
> >>
> >>>"Brenda G. Kent" <wt...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote in
> >>>news:Pine.GSO.4.58.04...@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Why do others have to put down other faiths?
> >>>>
> >>>>Calling each other idiots and stupid and imbeciles does not bring one
> >>>>closer to God in my beliefs.
> >>>>
> >>>>Kindnesses love and respect for others bring us closer to God in my
> >>>>opinion.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Thank you. I was beginning to wonder where the adults went.
> >>
> >>She is a witch. That is not "adult."
> >>
> >>Christian
> >
> >
> > If all Christians were judged by the squabbling that goes on on the
> > Christian ngs, one might reasonably suppose that Christians were far
from
> > adult :)
> >
> > Jani
> >
> >
>
> Even far from Christian.. :)
*chuckle*
Jani
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> <wt...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
>
>>Sorry Dave.
>>
>>I don't believe in the Devil as a being.
>>
>>My God is God.
>>
>>Please stop saying lies about me and what I believe in or follow.
> You had me fooled. I had the distinct impression that you were a
A rather easy thing to do, those that do not agree with you you label many
things, usually wrong.
> witch.
> And you not believing in Satan is amusing. I have known half-a-dozen
Not really, very few people not of the xian myth believe in that senior
god.
> witches and warlocks (male witch). ALL denied that they believed in
> Satan/Lucifer, Beelzebub, and said that they worshipped "the horned
> one". The "horned one" is merely another title for Satan.
As usual, your ignorance about things you speak of is appalling to those
that have bothered to read or study up on gods & their roles in human
society.
The horned gods are nature deity's, they may or may not been senior gods.
Pan as an example, was not a senior god.
Kernunnos [a cognate] is a senior god.
Neither one require the permission of your gods to exist.
Pan was regional, Kernunnos was pan Celtic.
Pan only left Greece with Alexander of Macedonia.
No one knows exactly where the Celtic society started
Unlike the xian pantheon, these gods tended to be beneficial & peaceful in
nature.
Pan of Greece, he is a horned and hoofed woodland god. Who rules all of
nature's spirits. Associated with, but not limited to all nature spirits,
male sexuality, nature, woodlands, vocal powers, gardening, healing, plants
animals, fertility, farming, medicine, soothsaying, flocks, agriculture,
bee-keeping, fishing, orchards, gardens, terror/panic, music, & dance.
As you can see, a god of some importance locally. BTW, there is more actual
historical evidence [as used by xians, for their gods] for pan then there
is for any of their gods. We do have artwork for pan, as well as writings.
Those articles predate the xian myth.
Now as to Kernunnos, his list has been aired before, but you sirrah are
unable to grasp the concept.
> Which means that witches/warlocks, "horned one" worshippers can't even
> honestly admit that they do.
Amazing, if one could get a PH.D. for ignorance & rank stupidity, you would
receive one from every university in the world, providing you never set
foot on their campuses.
That is no more bemusing than realising xians don't even know why their
claim to shame is impossible on two different fronts, historical &
theological.
> They fool only themselves.
Yes, xians do, but the decent ones don't maker that public knowledge. Maybe
you could learn from them?
> jw
walksalone who has serious doubts if jw is even a salad bar xian, conduct
wise, IAW his posting history, impossible. Yet he shames the claim.
--
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The first of people against whom judgment will be pronounced on the Day of
Resurrection will be a man who died a martyr. He will be brought and Allah
will make known to him His favours and he will recognize them.
The Almighty will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I
fought for you until I died a martyr. He will say: You have lied - you did
but fight that it might be said [of you]: He is courageous. And so it was
said.
Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast
into Hell-fire.
walksalone
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> On 30 Aug 2004 07:20:54 -0700, shank...@yahoo.com (Shan) wrote:
>
>>Since all of you literalist fundamentalists claim that you follow the
>>Word of God to the letter, why are you like Medusa's hair-do a
>>thousand thousand snakes of cults?
> As a born-again Christian fundamentalist, first of all, there are not
eally, now there is a surprise, did you suffer more brain damage the second
time, or is your ignorance self induced?
> thousands of different denominations of born-again Christian
> fundamentalist.
Well, being I have yet to hear the same story twice, that puts your lie to
rest. BTW, when is your denomination starting ts formal services. Has your
church acquired the needed licenses yet, or most importantly from your POV,
its 503c exemption from the IRS.
Not as easy as you thought is it.
> 2ndly, you need to define "fundamentalist." A Christian
No need to, by their actions & all tghat.
A standard definition would be a flaming asshole ate up with the dumbass &
knowitalls at the same time.
> "fundamentalist" MERELY means that we hold certain "core teachings" in
No, it means you don't know what you are talking about in this case, & the
evidence is found in the majority of your posts.
> common. Read C S Lewis' "Mere Christianity" for a good treatise on
> "fundamentalist Christianity."
Apologetics poorly written do not an intelligent or knowledgeable person
make. They simply compound the ignorance.
snip routine propaganda, aka song & dance.
Pity, jw almost made sense, if you didn't know him from his previous posts.
> jw
walksalone who understands jw's inability to know what it is talking about
when its Cliff Notes are missing or incomplete, it is an acquired skill for
some, but it makes them feel superior to those that know more about the
subject than they do.
Shan
> Hello shank...@yahoo.com (Shan),
> you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :
> >Since all of you literalist fundamentalists claim that you follow the
> >Word of God to the letter, why are you like Medusa's hair-do a
> >thousand thousand snakes of cults?
>
> "fundamentalists." Are you including the idiots of the rcc who beat
> themselves with whips and have themselves nailed to crosses each
> easter?
Idiotic RCCs are another story. Let me get a straight answer from
Bible thumping fundamentalists.
> You can lump any variation of groups together for any purpose and
> attack them, but you cannot be honest when you do so.
But of course I can. Baptists, Church of God, Seventh-day Adventists
(fill in the blanks...) and anyone else who takes the Bible literally
among the Protestant cults.
You know yourselves literalist fundamentalists beginning for the pig
FAT FALWELL and all the other "Bible Christians" whatever that stupid
expression means.
WHY ARE YOU A MILLION CULT not ONE CULT? If you follow the same book
literally, you should be ONE CULT.
Mike Andrade
>> She is a witch. That is not "adult."
Many women take being called "witch" an insult -- a slightly less
"offensive" version of "bitch." At least that's the way it is around
where I live. I just wanted clarification -- given the way insults fly
around this newsgroup, I wanted to know if "christian" was simply
throwing another or actually commenting on what you believe.
Bob
"Shan" <shank...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Wht does Rome have so many different orders, why are there a million Our
Lady of this or that, Guadalupe, Lourdes, Perpetual Indulgence, etc.
Why are so many RC priests fags?
Why don't you just shut up and take yer meds, psycho boy.....
ChuckPFb
> And you not believing in Satan is amusing. I have known half-a-dozen
> witches and warlocks (male witch). ALL denied that they believed in
> Satan/Lucifer, Beelzebub, and said that they worshipped "the horned
> one". The "horned one" is merely another title for Satan.
Well, you, JW, as a result of your past writing history, should be dubbed
the "Horny One!"
Brenda G. Kent
witches,
>>Brenda.
For once, Dave and I are in complete agreement. (that means you're
right this time, Dave!
;-)
Actually....he is not right. It is his opinion that to be witch means
that your master is the devil. Unfortunately he has watched too many
hollywood films and believed in the unfortunate sweeping of all witches
into the "evil kind" that is listed in the bible. King James was witch
phobic...probably due to myths that he had heard about witches. He used
the term witch as a catch all for all doers of evil.
There are witches that will do evil...just as their are lots of people out
there that will do evil...however most of the witches I know...do good and
are loving and healing folks who believe in God...or the many faces of God
and help people daily with the aid of God.
To sweep all witches into one group...is prejudice..pure and simple.
I don't believe in the Devil as an entity. I believe that one can be
"devilled" by their own egos...manifesting in fears,what-ifs etc.
My master is God..and always will be God. So all you are doing is breaking
a Bible law ...which is to not bear false witness against another.
Blessings of truth,
Bren
--
Brenda G. Kent
And you not believing in Satan is amusing. I have known half-a-dozen
witches and warlocks (male witch). ALL denied that they believed in
Satan/Lucifer, Beelzebub, and said that they worshipped "the horned
one". The "horned one" is merely another title for Satan.
Which means that witches/warlocks, "horned one" worshippers can't even
honestly admit that they do.
They fool only themselves.
jw
My friend..I am a witch. The horned one is another name for the God of
nature....it has nothing to do with the "devil or Satan". Cernunnos,Herne
and Pan are Gods of nature...they are shown with horns to depict wild
nature. People who did not understand this obviously confused their idea
of Satan with Pagan Gods.
There is no fooling Jw. You have simply been reading too much
propoganda..which is false.
I am also a Christian. Not YOUR kind of Christian...but Christian none the
less.
Blessings of enlightenment
Bren
ps. Male witches will rarely call themselves Warlocks. Warlock means
oath-breaker. The Norse however say that it stems from Waer-loga (which I
have forgotten what they say it means). Male witches are called "witches".
If you "know Warlocks" as you say you do....then they are most likely
wannabe witches...and not the real thing.
Brenda G. Kent
"offensive" version of "bitch." At least that's the way it is around
where I live. I just wanted clarification -- given the way insults fly
around this newsgroup, I wanted to know if "christian" was simply
throwing another or actually commenting on what you believe.
Bren says: oh here to Mike....but since I actually am a witch and
understand that it is shortened version of the Anglo-Saxon word Wicca
(pronounced witch-ah) which means Wise....it is definitely not an insult
to me.
Blessings upon you..nice to have some nice folks around here.
Bren
--
ChuckPFb
> ps. Male witches will rarely call themselves Warlocks. Warlock means
> oath-breaker. The Norse however say that it stems from Waer-loga (which I
> have forgotten what they say it means). Male witches are called "witches".
> If you "know Warlocks" as you say you do....then they are most likely
> wannabe witches...and not the real thing.
So then which witch is which?
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Brenda G. Kent
male = witch
female =witch
in old Anglo-Saxon vernacular Wicca= male
Wicce =female
Blessings and yes...got the joke..but no problem in a bit of clarity!!
:)
Bren
--
Bob
> >>Your master is not Jesus Christ, but the devil. That's normal for
> witches,
> >>Brenda.
>
> For once, Dave and I are in complete agreement. (that means you're
> right this time, Dave!
>
> ;-)
>
>
> Actually....he is not right. It is his opinion that to be witch means
> that your master is the devil.
your master.
Did you expect satan to arrive at your home replete in horns and tail?
You are a loonie, and I don't mean $1.
Bob
"ChuckPFb" <nos...@nospam2.com> wrote in message
news:lU2Zc.537641$Gx4....@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> "Brenda G. Kent" <wt...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote in message
>
> > ps. Male witches will rarely call themselves Warlocks. Warlock means
> > oath-breaker. The Norse however say that it stems from Waer-loga (which
I
> > have forgotten what they say it means). Male witches are called
"witches".
> > If you "know Warlocks" as you say you do....then they are most likely
> > wannabe witches...and not the real thing.
>
> So then which witch is which?
We have been informed by witches visiting the ng that Brenda is a
"heretic" in Wicca, as well as we who know she is a heretic regarding
Christianity. Nobody wants Brenda......
Diana
"Bob" <b...@bob.bob> wrote in message
news:c44Zc.10138$6o3....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Nobody wants Brenda......
This is not true. It is not God's will that any should
perish.
Diana
Tom A.
> "ChuckPFb" <nos...@nospam2.com> wrote in message
> news:lU2Zc.537641$Gx4....@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>>"Brenda G. Kent" <wt...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote in message
>>
>>
>>>ps. Male witches will rarely call themselves Warlocks.
According to Rolling (sp?) author of _Harry Potter and the Dump Truck
full of Money_ male magic users are called Wizards.
:-)
>>So then which witch is which?
>
> We have been informed by witches visiting the ng that Brenda is a
> "heretic" in Wicca, as well as we who know she is a heretic regarding
> Christianity. Nobody wants Brenda......
God does.
Tom A.
Shan
The QUESTION is still OUTSTANDING. You cannot answer it because you
are fundamenatlist idiots.
Shan
I can't take my meds now because I have yet to fuck your mother and
sister before you do.
TDP
Answered perfectly, it's just that some in here can't comprehend what
they read.
TDP
What's wrong with you?
Angel
>> > > >Since all of you literalist fundamentalists claim that
>> > > >you follow the
>> > > >Word of God to the letter, why are you like Medusa's
>> > > >hair-do a
>> > > >thousand thousand snakes of cults?
>> > >
>> > > It depends upon who you are "lumping together" and calling
>> > > "fundamentalists." Are you including the idiots of the
>> > > rcc who beat
>> > > themselves with whips and have themselves nailed to
>> > > crosses each
>> > > easter?
>> >
>> > Idiotic RCCs are another story. Let me get a straight
>> > answer from
>> > Bible thumping fundamentalists.
>> >
>> > > You can lump any variation of groups together for any
>> > > purpose and
>> > > attack them, but you cannot be honest when you do so.
>> >
>> > But of course I can. Baptists, Church of God, Seventh-day
>> > Adventists
>> > (fill in the blanks...) and anyone else who takes the Bible
>> > literally
>> > among the Protestant cults.
***Are you saying that anyone who isn't Catholic therefore
belongs to a cult? Just curious.***
-
Angel
>> >
>> > You know yourselves literalist fundamentalists beginning for
>> > the pig
>> > FAT FALWELL and all the other "Bible Christians" whatever
>> > that stupid
>> > expression means.
>> >
>> > WHY ARE YOU A MILLION CULT not ONE CULT? If you follow the
>> > same book
>> > literally, you should be ONE CULT.
>>
>> Wht does Rome have so many different orders, why are there
>> a million Our
>> Lady of this or that, Guadalupe, Lourdes, Perpetual
>> Indulgence, etc.
>
> The QUESTION is still OUTSTANDING. You cannot answer it
> because you
> are fundamenatlist idiots.
>
>> Why are so many RC priests fags?
>> Why don't you just shut up and take yer meds, psycho
>> boy.....
***Ouch! That doesn't sound Christianlike to me at all. ***
-
Angel
Angel
***Ouch! This doesn't sound very Christianlike to me either.***
-
Angel
Cindy
"Angel" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:6t6Zc.1$H26.0@trnddc07...
>>> > > you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :
>>> > > >Since all of you literalist fundamentalists claim that you follow
>>> > > >the
>
> cult? Just curious.***
> -
> Angel
Anyone that claims to be a Christian and is not a Catholic belongs to an
illegal offshoot of the Catholic Church and therefore belongs to a cult! :)
Except Buddhist or other real religions!
Cindy
Brenda G. Kent
Tom A.
Awww...thanks Tom.
I feel that is true. Also the huge pagan community that I belong to
(including witches,druids,ceremonial mages..etc.) the many Christians
that I know...my boyfriend...my friends....my adopted animals and my
family!
hugs
and blessings
Bren
--
Brenda G. Kent
Blessings
Bren
--
TDP
>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:55:54 GMT, "Angel" <nos...@nospam.net> done
>went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet
>News'FROUPS:
>
>>
>>***Ouch! This doesn't sound very Christianlike to me either.***
>>-
>>Angel
>>
>
>
>Angel, the individual posting under the nasme of 'shan' ios merely
>another typical creep who lives to inflame, incite, and argue.
>
>Please, pay no attention to his gross filth. If he thinks he can upset
>you, he will keep creeping in to try harder.
>
>God bless you, Angel.
Why does he/she use language like that?... I don't know anyone who
talk's like that.
>
>
> ==========================================================
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>JESUS IS THE ROCK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> < God doesn't call the qualified; He qualifies the called >
> ==========================================================
TDP
>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:55:54 GMT, "Angel" <nos...@nospam.net> done
>went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet
>News'FROUPS:
>
>>
>>***Ouch! This doesn't sound very Christianlike to me either.***
>>-
>>Angel
>>
>
>
>Angel, the individual posting under the nasme of 'shan' ios merely
>another typical creep who lives to inflame, incite, and argue.
>
>Please, pay no attention to his gross filth. If he thinks he can upset
>you, he will keep creeping in to try harder.
>
>God bless you, Angel.
Do you know Geddy Lee?
Bob
news:4134f27c...@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...
> What's wrong with you?
He's Catholic.
Bob
>
> "Shan" <shank...@yahoo.com> wrote
> > I can't take my meds now
>
That's because he's not a Christian, he's Catholic.
Angel
"Cindy" <Ci...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:f-SdnT6ePJ5...@comcast.com...
****I AM a Christian, but do not belong to the Catholic church
(although they are also Christians). There is nothing written in
the Bible that says "One must be Catholic to get to heaven".
Instead it says "Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, and
nobody gets to the Father except through Him." A church
organization, good deeds, good works, or the fact that you try to
be a good person will not save you from eternal hell, my friend.
Jesus is the ONLY Savior and He is what everyone needs in order
to have eternal life in heaven. Nothing and nobody, except Jesus
will save you!
-
Angel
Angel
>>>either.***
>>>-
>>>Angel
>>>
>>
>>
>>Angel, the individual posting under the nasme of 'shan' ios
>>merely
>>another typical creep who lives to inflame, incite, and argue.
>>
>>Please, pay no attention to his gross filth. If he thinks he
>>can upset
>>you, he will keep creeping in to try harder.
>>
>>God bless you, Angel.
>
> Why does he/she use language like that?... I don't know anyone
> who
> talk's like that.
>>
***When one uses language such as this all it shows is how
uneducated that individual person is and therefore we should pray
for him or her. They don't know how to speak so they use foul
and abusive language to try to win their arguments.***
-
Angel
Angel
<rom...@romath.net> wrote in message
news:oq7aj0l2b76u8tqn6...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 00:25:49 GMT, tpars...@sbcglobal.net
> (TDP) done
> went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet
> News'FROUPS:
>
>>
>
***I am Angel and I have never went by any other name. My real
name is Angelique. I hope this answers your question.***
-
Angel
TDP
Whatever, Catholic's don't talk like that.
>
>
Angel
>>>
>>> No, I don't. Are you sayin GL is Angel?
>>
>>***I am Angel and I have never went by any other name. My real
>>name is Angelique. I hope this answers your question.***
>>-
>>Angel
>>
> 'tony
> parsons' on the carpet to explain himself. Sorry for any
> misunderstanding.
****Whoops! Sorry about that. ***
-
Angel
Bob
That's a real funny joke; Rowland would probably like to put that on his
site. Didja hear about the one-legged jockey?
>
> Cindy
>
>
Bob
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:28:37 -0400, rom...@romath.net wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:55:54 GMT, "Angel" <nos...@nospam.net> done
> >went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet
> >News'FROUPS:
> >
> >>
> >>***Ouch! This doesn't sound very Christianlike to me either.***
> >>-
> >>Angel
> >>
> >
> >
> >Angel, the individual posting under the nasme of 'shan' ios merely
> >another typical creep who lives to inflame, incite, and argue.
> >
> >Please, pay no attention to his gross filth. If he thinks he can upset
> >you, he will keep creeping in to try harder.
> >
> >God bless you, Angel.
>
> Why does he/she use language like that?... I don't know anyone who
> talk's like that.
You are one of the fortunate few who do not know Shan Karees, or Mark
Tindall.......
Angel
"CB" <count...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:m5daj052k55h44p3g...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 00:57:26 GMT, "Angel" <nos...@nospam.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>****I AM a Christian, but do not belong to the Catholic church
>>(although they are also Christians). There is nothing written
>>in
>>the Bible that says "One must be Catholic to get to heaven".
>>Instead it says "Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, and
>>nobody gets to the Father except through Him." A church
>>organization, good deeds, good works, or the fact that you try
>>to
>>be a good person will not save you from eternal hell, my
>>friend.
>>Jesus is the ONLY Savior and He is what everyone needs in order
>>to have eternal life in heaven. Nothing and nobody, except
>>Jesus
>>will save you!
>
> If you have, what would ever make you think they are Christian?
***Well, to my knowledge anyone who believes in Jesus Christ and
tries to follow Him is a Christian and therefore Catholics are
Christians even though I don't agree with all of their
teachings.***
>
>>-
>>Angel
Bob
>
> "Cindy" <Ci...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:f-SdnT6ePJ5...@comcast.com...
> >
> > "Angel" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > news:6t6Zc.1$H26.0@trnddc07...
> >>>> > > you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :
> >>>> > > >Since all of you literalist fundamentalists claim that
> >>>> > > >you follow the
> >>
> >> ***Are you saying that anyone who isn't Catholic therefore
> >> belongs to a cult? Just curious.***
> >> -
> >> Angel
> >
> > Anyone that claims to be a Christian and is not a Catholic
> > belongs to an illegal offshoot of the Catholic Church and
> > therefore belongs to a cult! :)
> >
> > Except Buddhist or other real religions!
> >
> >
> > Cindy
>
> ****I AM a Christian, but do not belong to the Catholic church
> (although they are also Christians).
Well, actually, NO, they're not.......
> There is nothing written in
> the Bible that says "One must be Catholic to get to heaven".
The RCC taught that for almost 1400 years and killed anyone who
disagreed.
Bob
Uh, he just did. So do the ones I worked with, grew up with, married the
first time etc etc etc.
What you meant to say is that Christians don't talk that way. Sorry if
Rome has you bumfuzzled about their true nature; you have a lot of
company.........
Bob
> When I was in the Army, we were cursed out by a catholic priest.
It's a good thing that's all he did. I've had two of them go to lengths
to seduce me.
>
> "At least when right-wingers rant, there's a point."
> Ann Coulter
Bob
There are enough differences between what the Bible says and what Rome
says to remove all doubt from the mind of anyone who takes even a cursory
glance at the data.
Bob<><
> >
> >>-
> >>Angel
>
>
TDP
>On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 00:25:49 GMT, tpars...@sbcglobal.net (TDP) done
>went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet
>News'FROUPS:
>
>>
>>Do you know Geddy Lee?
>
>No, I don't. Are you sayin GL is Angel?
No, he's a musician in Canada.
Cindy
The Athanasian Creed
Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the
Catholic Faith. Which Faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled,
without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the Catholic Faith is this,
that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity. Neither confounding
the Persons, nor dividing the Substance. For there is one Person of the
Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead
of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost is all One, the Glory Equal,
the Majesty Co-Eternal. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is
the Holy Ghost. The Father Uncreate, the Son Uncreate, and the Holy Ghost
Uncreate. The Father Incomprehensible, the Son Incomprehensible, and the
Holy Ghost Incomprehensible. The Father Eternal, the Son Eternal, and the
Holy Ghost Etneral and yet they are not Three Eternals but One Eternal. As
also there are not Three Uncreated, nor Three Incomprehensibles, but One
Uncreated, and One Uncomprehensible. So likewise the Father is Almighty, the
Son Almighty, and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not Three
Almighties but One Almighty.
>
>
Brenda G. Kent
hard to find out where to start with you. Pan..and Puck are nothing to do
with Satan...they are wild nature period. Nature is neither good or
bad...it just is.
You will continue to disagree most likely...but I hope one
day you will understand. The prevailing has a tendancy to demonize the
vanquished (or seeming vanquished). It is their way of getting others to
leave their old ways and take on others.
Churches and Cathedrals were built upon old pagan sites....sacred groves
were destroyed (picture some other faith coming in and burning down YOUR
church) and people were coerced,forced, etc. to embrace this new faith.
Many would embrace it on the social side...and still practise the old ways
at home..or in secret for fear of being killed. Some combined the new ways
with the old. For years...Irish Christianity was a blend of old pagan ways
and Christianity. The Goddess Brigid became the Saint brigid...etc.
It still does differ a bit in some of the more traditionally Irish
churches. The Old ways of the ancestors are bit by bit being rubbed out of
all existance...but thank God new resurgances of culture and language are
stopping it from going so quickly. May we all honour our ancestors.
Blessings
Bren
--
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> wrote:
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>>"J W @yoohoo.com>" <jw<no> wrote in message
>>
>>> And you not believing in Satan is amusing. I have known half-a-dozen
>>> witches and warlocks (male witch). ALL denied that they believed in
>>> Satan/Lucifer, Beelzebub, and said that they worshipped "the horned
>>> one". The "horned one" is merely another title for Satan.
>>
>>Well, you, JW, as a result of your past writing history, should be dubbed
>>the "Horny One!"
> Some who are both
> 1. corrupt
> and
> 2. immature
> get hung up on the past.
& several who are neither observe that the polecat does not change its
stripes.
Its habits can be changed with training. Yours haven't according to your
posting history.
> Others of us, like me, move on. And what is wrong with being "horny?"
> Sex is a God-given thing.
Yes, you move one from one lie to the next, from one bit of puffery to the
next, from one more claim for knowledge or famous acquaintances to the
next. But when the dust around you settles, you are still in you home made
compost heap playing queen of the shrill.
As to sex, it is a biological necessity. Sadly in your case it was one of
those nights when our mother should have kept her nightie on.
Course, you may not be the individual you play here on the net, but is
seems so natural that it is no easy thing to think that you are not in fact
the persona you play.
> And in case your mommy and daddy didn't tell you yet, sex is where you
> came from.
No, sex was the cause of them getting it on long enough for the egg to be
fertilized. Doctors have known that since the 1820's when in spite of the
xians, cadavers were examined by doctors. Are you really this ignorant, or
is it a special effort on your part?
> jw
Ah, the god's gift to humanity one, such a spiteful god it that's so.
walksalone who is no longer surprise at the depths of jw's ignorance, or
the extremes he will go to demonstrate it.
--
The Hadith Qudsi 6
The first of people against whom judgment will be pronounced on the Day of
Resurrection will be a man who died a martyr. He will be brought and Allah
will make known to him His favours and he will recognize them.
The Almighty will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I
fought for you until I died a martyr. He will say: You have lied - you did
but fight that it might be said [of you]: He is courageous. And so it was
said.
Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast
into Hell-fire.
walksalone
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> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:52:42 +0100, "Jani" <ja...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"J W @yoohoo.com>" <jw<no> wrote in message
>>news:eig8j0l9lgbfkt2sl...@4ax.com...
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:07:21 -0700, "Brenda G. Kent"
>>> <wt...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Sorry Dave.
>>> >
>>> >I don't believe in the Devil as a being.
>>> >
>>> >My God is God.
>>> >
>>> >Please stop saying lies about me and what I believe in or follow.
>>>
>>> You had me fooled. I had the distinct impression that you were a
>>> witch.
>>>
>>> And you not believing in Satan is amusing. I have known half-a-dozen
>>> witches and warlocks (male witch). ALL denied that they believed in
>>> Satan/Lucifer, Beelzebub, and said that they worshipped "the horned
>>> one". The "horned one" is merely another title for Satan.
>>
>>Wrong way round.
>
> Not at all.
indeed it is.
> Images of horned deities preceded Christianity,
And in your arrogance you are going to decree that those were all demons,
even though your gods do not say so.
> That isn't the issue, since there were demon-possessed people and
No, that is not the case in spite of your assumption that it is & that you
know more than anyone else on the subject.
> Satan worshippers (by whatever name they used for him) LONG before
> Christ (as in MILLENNIUMS).
Not even accurate there.
There were no satan worshipers among the proto Jews, & there are no records
of anyone else doing the satan shuffle that you claim.
The concept of a satan as anything but an agent of Yahweh has to wait until
the Jews exposure to the Persian myths with their dualism.
But then, lack of knowledge never stopped you from running off at the mouth
before, so why should now be any different?
> The Jews all the way back in Genesis and Exodus (some 5,000 - 6,000 BC
Nope, supposedly it is not even that far back.
> were being warned to stay away from the pagans (gentiles) of their
> day, because the pagans were worshipping "the horned" one in a variety
> of ungodly ways. The Old Testament is FULL of Satan worship and pagan
No horned one mentioned, & it was simply a case of their god being so weak
that it cold not stop the proto Jews from following long custom. The one of
worshiping the local gods where you were.
Not that anyone expects you to comprehend that jw. You've been exposed to
the information before.
There were no horned gods in the Canaanite pantheon that I am aware of. But
horns were a sign of divinity when worn as a headdress dependent on where
you were in the mid-east.
> ritual if you know what you're reading (incest, group sex, orgies, the
> destroying (sacrificing) of unwanted infants "passing them through the
Or reading into. We know that the Hebrew practiced temple prostitution, we
know they followed local gods, & we know this pissed the local priests off.
But just because others know these things, does not mean you ever will.
> fire", the eating of human flesh, the drinking of human and animal
> blood. The worship of the stars (astrology) ALL of which are various
> aspects of witchcraft/Satan worship, as my witch/Satan worshipping
> (Beelzebub-worshiping friends OPENLY admitted.
Really, where are these writings then?
> Yhwh (the God of the Jews) forbade the Jews to indulge in such
At that time it was El, damn but you really are that ignorant. Unless you
are referring to the claim made by the missing Moses when Yahweh was
mooning him.
> practices, but since the Satan worshippers were into WILD sex and
There were no satan worshipers, but then, you will never comprehend that.
> other "fleshly pleasure", the Jews didn't listen, and eventually, God
> "had it up to here" with them and sent them into slavery in Egypt
That was El, not Yahweh.
> ("Babylon") for several generations (until those who sinned and their
No, there was no indication of a mass slavery n Egypt starting from 12
families.
> great grandchildren ) had all died.
Do you even know what history is, do you even know how to use it.
> When the last of those Jews who even had any MEMORIES of their pagan
> roots were dead, God arranged their "Exodus."
But they still remembered the old gods, & it was the son of El that
appeared to them on the mountain, according to your official book of blood.
> and
>>medieval Christianity borrowed the iconography to illustrate their concept
>>of Satan.
> It is you who have it backwards. I have recently found ancient
> "pornographic art" from ancient Pompeii, Rome, and Greece that
Now there is a thought, Rome & Greece predated ancient Israel & the
fertile triangle.
JW, you are a liar again, still, & continuing.
> predates Israel, and the males in the sexually explicit murals
> invariably wear horns and are called "Satyrs", another euphemism for
> Satan/Lucifer/Beelzebub, as is the "Puck" character from Shakespeare's
> "A MidSummer Night's Dream."
Satyr's had top wait until after the Roman & Greek empires were formed.
The satan =other gods had to wait until after the Babylonian exile.
Puck is a good but mischievous sprite.
> By whatever name you call him, "the horned one" is Beelzebub. You
No, as usual you are toting your ignorance as truth, when it is not. Still,
it is the only dog & pony show you have to offer people for their
amusement.
> know it, and I know it. And--even if you do NOT know it-- I know it.
Yup, & there is the problem, you think you know it & that's good enough for
you.
Fortunately, the remainder of humanity is not required to accept your
fractured airy tales as reality.
BTW, you might want to oil your caps key, it gets stuck at the most
inappropriate times.
>>>
>>> Which means that witches/warlocks, "horned one" worshippers can't even
>>> honestly admit that they do.
>>>
>>> They fool only themselves.
>>
>>Why should they "admit" to following a belief system completely different
>>from their own?
> Why would followers of the "Prince of Darkness", the "Prince of Liars"
> admit that they worship Beelzebub?
Indeed, why would they when they don't?
> In early America, they were wise enough to outlaw witchcraft and Satan
Strange, but that is about what I expected from you. Ignorance trying to
propagate itself.
> worship, but that only drove it underground. Now that witchcraft and
> Satan worship are legal and "respectable", it's MUCH more open, even
> if some of you resist the urge to admit the truth.
So says the less than knowledgeable jw, but it is only true in its dark
corners of its mind.
> You might as well have reconstructionist Mithraens saying
>>that Christians don't "admit" they really follow Mithras.
> We Christians CAN trace our roots directly to the Old Testament.
No, that you can not do. You can not even how where the messiah prophesy's
have anything to do with your claimed messiah.
You can bluster, you can assert & assume, but the evidence is against you.
Still, you can't even discuss the concept so that is no surprise.
> Although "Mithraism" is similar in some ways, that only means that it
> likely copied aspects of Christianity. After all, the demons ("unclean
Except that Mithraism predates xianity by century's, the Jews were exposed
to it in Babylon, & likely has its origins in India as one of the children
of Aditi of the self fertile womb. Even there, he is a solar deity.
> spirits", "fallen angels") have been around MUCH longer than Beelzebub
> worship, so they could anticipate Christian and Jewish beliefs and
> copy them ahead of time.
So goes the circular logic & appeal to special pleading that most xian
claims are built on.
But then, its based on the Greek model anyway, so what can one expect.
> jw
>
>>
>>Jani
ChuckPFb
> The Old Testament is FULL of Satan worship and pagan
> ritual if you know what you're reading (incest, group sex, orgies,
Ah, so this explains your interest in the Old Testament! It's just
a shame that the Old Testament didn't include graphic illustrations,
isn't it JW?
> the eating of human flesh, the drinking of human and animal
> blood.
...which is the central part of RCC ritual
> The worship of the stars (astrology) ALL of which are various
> aspects of witchcraft/Satan worship, as my witch/Satan worshipping
> (Beelzebub-worshiping friends OPENLY admitted.
Apparently your friends are just as phony and silly in their beliefs as
you are with yours.
> Yhwh (the God of the Jews) forbade the Jews to indulge in such
> practices, but since the Satan worshippers were into WILD sex
This is hilarious JW. WILD sex as opposed to the ordinary, tame, garden
variety sex that you like?
> and other "fleshly pleasure",
Please elaborate! We don't want to miss out on anything...
> It is you who have it backwards. I have recently found ancient
> "pornographic art" from ancient Pompeii, Rome, and Greece that
> predates Israel, and the males in the sexually explicit murals
> invariably wear horns and are called "Satyrs", another euphemism for
> Satan/Lucifer/Beelzebub, as is the "Puck" character from Shakespeare's
> "A MidSummer Night's Dream."
>
> By whatever name you call him, "the horned one" is Beelzebub. You
> know it, and I know it. And--even if you do NOT know it-- I know it.
Just like you know that Rome and Greece predates Israel? As Walksalone
has pointed out, you don't know jack shit.
Bob
This is not the ROMAN Catholic faith, but the Universal Christian faith.
The two are diametrically opposed.
Which Faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled,
> without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.
Vatican II says that all Christians baptized in the Trinitarian Formula
will be saved.
And the Catholic Faith is this,
> that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity. Neither
confounding
> the Persons, nor dividing the Substance. For there is one Person of the
> Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead
> of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost is all One, the Glory
Equal,
> the Majesty Co-Eternal. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such
is
> the Holy Ghost. The Father Uncreate, the Son Uncreate, and the Holy Ghost
> Uncreate. The Father Incomprehensible, the Son Incomprehensible, and the
> Holy Ghost Incomprehensible. The Father Eternal, the Son Eternal, and the
> Holy Ghost Etneral and yet they are not Three Eternals but One Eternal. As
> also there are not Three Uncreated, nor Three Incomprehensibles, but One
> Uncreated, and One Uncomprehensible. So likewise the Father is Almighty,
the
> Son Almighty, and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not Three
> Almighties but One Almighty.
Thanks for posting this; I'd seen it before, but never bothered to
really examine it closely.
Bob<><
Shan
> On 31 Aug 2004 14:40:45 -0700, shank...@yahoo.com (Shan) wrote:
>
> >"Bob" <b...@bob.bob> wrote in message news:<rI_Yc.9302$6o3....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
> >> "Shan" <shank...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:71bd538c.0408...@posting.google.com...
> >> > chri...@velocitus.net wrote in message
> news:<o5u6j0pj8rjr590hv...@4ax.com>...
> >> > > Hello shank...@yahoo.com (Shan),
> >> > > you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :
> >> > > >Since all of you literalist fundamentalists claim that you follow the
> >> > > >thousand thousand snakes of cults?
> >> > >
> >> > > It depends upon who you are "lumping together" and calling
> >> > > "fundamentalists." Are you including the idiots of the rcc who beat
> >> > > themselves with whips and have themselves nailed to crosses each
> >> > > easter?
> >> >
> >> > Idiotic RCCs are another story. Let me get a straight answer from
> >> > Bible thumping fundamentalists.
> >> >
> >> > > You can lump any variation of groups together for any purpose and
> >> > > attack them, but you cannot be honest when you do so.
> >> >
> >> > But of course I can. Baptists, Church of God, Seventh-day Adventists
> >> > (fill in the blanks...) and anyone else who takes the Bible literally
> >> > among the Protestant cults.
> >> >
> >> > You know yourselves literalist fundamentalists beginning for the pig
> >> > FAT FALWELL and all the other "Bible Christians" whatever that stupid
> >> > expression means.
> >> >
> >> > WHY ARE YOU A MILLION CULT not ONE CULT? If you follow the same book
> >> > literally, you should be ONE CULT.
> >>
> >> Wht does Rome have so many different orders, why are there a million Our
> >> Lady of this or that, Guadalupe, Lourdes, Perpetual Indulgence, etc.
> >
> >The QUESTION is still OUTSTANDING. You cannot answer it because you
> >are fundamenatlist idiots.
>
> Answered perfectly, it's just that some in here can't comprehend what
> they read.
Answering a question with a question is not an answer regardless what some think.
Shan
> >> > > you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :
> >> > > >Since all of you literalist fundamentalists claim that
> >> > > >you follow the
> >> > > >Word of God to the letter, why are you like Medusa's
> >> > > >hair-do a
> >> > > >thousand thousand snakes of cults?
> >> > >
> >> > > It depends upon who you are "lumping together" and calling
> >> > > "fundamentalists." Are you including the idiots of the
> >> > > rcc who beat
> >> > > themselves with whips and have themselves nailed to
> >> > > crosses each
> >> > > easter?
> >> >
> >> > Idiotic RCCs are another story. Let me get a straight
> >> > answer from
> >> > Bible thumping fundamentalists.
> >> >
> >> > > You can lump any variation of groups together for any
> >> > > purpose and
> >> > > attack them, but you cannot be honest when you do so.
> >> >
> >> > But of course I can. Baptists, Church of God, Seventh-day
> >> > Adventists
> >> > (fill in the blanks...) and anyone else who takes the Bible
> >> > literally
> >> > among the Protestant cults.
>
> belongs to a cult? Just curious.***
Not necessarily.
> >> > You know yourselves literalist fundamentalists beginning for
> >> > the pig
> >> > FAT FALWELL and all the other "Bible Christians" whatever
> >> > that stupid
> >> > expression means.
> >> >
> >> > WHY ARE YOU A MILLION CULT not ONE CULT? If you follow the
> >> > same book
> >> > literally, you should be ONE CULT.
> >>
> >> Wht does Rome have so many different orders, why are there
> >> a million Our
> >> Lady of this or that, Guadalupe, Lourdes, Perpetual
> >> Indulgence, etc.
> >
> > The QUESTION is still OUTSTANDING. You cannot answer it
> > because you
> > are fundamenatlist idiots.
> >
> >> Why are so many RC priests fags?
> >> Why don't you just shut up and take yer meds, psycho
> >> boy.....
>
> ***Ouch! That doesn't sound Christianlike to me at all. ***
> -
> Angel
Shan
> > news:6t6Zc.1$H26.0@trnddc07...
> >>>> > > you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :
> >>>> > > >Since all of you literalist fundamentalists claim that
> >>>> > > >you follow the
> >>
> >> belongs to a cult? Just curious.***
> >> Angel
> >
> > Anyone that claims to be a Christian and is not a Catholic
> > belongs to an illegal offshoot of the Catholic Church and
> > therefore belongs to a cult! :)
> >
> > Except Buddhist or other real religions!
> >
> >
> > Cindy
>
> ****I AM a Christian, but do not belong to the Catholic church
> (although they are also Christians). There is nothing written in
> the Bible that says "One must be Catholic to get to heaven".
> Instead it says "Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, and
> nobody gets to the Father except through Him." A church
> organization, good deeds, good works, or the fact that you try to
> be a good person will not save you from eternal hell, my friend.
> Jesus is the ONLY Savior and He is what everyone needs in order
> to have eternal life in heaven. Nothing and nobody, except Jesus
> will save you!
The Orthodox, the Anglicans, the Methodists and some "reasonable"
non-literal interpreters of the Bible are not cults. They are
traditions of Christianity.
The matter of going to heaven is not decided by one's Catholicity.
Jesus saves all including those who never knew him and will never know
him.
Those who tell you they know who is and who is not going to heaven are
themselves the blind leading the blind.
Shan
> "Angel" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:6t6Zc.1$H26.0@trnddc07...
> >>> > > you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :
> >>> > > >Since all of you literalist fundamentalists claim that you follow
> >>> > > >the
> >
> > ***Are you saying that anyone who isn't Catholic therefore belongs to a
> > cult? Just curious.***
> > -
> > Angel
>
> Anyone that claims to be a Christian and is not a Catholic belongs to an
> illegal offshoot of the Catholic Church and therefore belongs to a cult! :)
That is BS and you know it.
Shan
You know about Christianity more than the millions of fundamentalists
or radical conservatives Catholics who think they monopolize God for
themselves.
You have a lot to teach to so-called Christians.
Shan
Catholic Faith here does not mean Roman Catholic but the faith of the
Universal Church.
This creed pre-dates anything called Roman Catholic or Orthodox.
Please don't quote it with such vehement ignorance.
Shan
> On 31 Aug 2004 14:43:14 -0700, shank...@yahoo.com (Shan) wrote:
>
> >"Bob" <b...@bob.bob> wrote in message news:<rI_Yc.9302$6o3....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
> >> "Shan" <shank...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:71bd538c.0408...@posting.google.com...
> >> > chri...@velocitus.net wrote in message
> news:<o5u6j0pj8rjr590hv...@4ax.com>...
> >> > > Hello shank...@yahoo.com (Shan),
> >> > > >Since all of you literalist fundamentalists claim that you follow the
> >> > > >thousand thousand snakes of cults?
> >> > >
> >> > > It depends upon who you are "lumping together" and calling
> >> > > "fundamentalists." Are you including the idiots of the rcc who beat
> >> > > themselves with whips and have themselves nailed to crosses each
> >> > > easter?
> >> >
> >> > Idiotic RCCs are another story. Let me get a straight answer from
> >> > Bible thumping fundamentalists.
> >> >
> >> > > You can lump any variation of groups together for any purpose and
> >> > > attack them, but you cannot be honest when you do so.
> >> >
> >> > But of course I can. Baptists, Church of God, Seventh-day Adventists
> >> > (fill in the blanks...) and anyone else who takes the Bible literally
> >> > among the Protestant cults.
> >> >
> >> > FAT FALWELL and all the other "Bible Christians" whatever that stupid
> >> > expression means.
> >> >
> >> > WHY ARE YOU A MILLION CULT not ONE CULT? If you follow the same book
> >> > literally, you should be ONE CULT.
> >>
> >> Wht does Rome have so many different orders, why are there a million Our
> >> Lady of this or that, Guadalupe, Lourdes, Perpetual Indulgence, etc.
> >> Why don't you just shut up and take yer meds, psycho boy.....
> >
> >sister before you do.
>
> What's wrong with you?
Any one who writes to me "Why don't you just shut up and take yer
meds, psycho boy....." needs to be responded to appropriately. In my
view, my response is a punishment fitting the crime.
Bob
It was so bizarre; one used to bring me presents from the church and try
to seduce me, the other thought that cozying up next to me and talking dirty
and flirting would get it.....
Shan
That is why Jesus asked us to pray "...lead us not into temptation,
but [when we are tempted and are nasty, as I was] deliver us from
evil.
Turning the other cheek does not work with most idiotic
fundamentalists.
Shan
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:28:37 -0400, rom...@romath.net wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:55:54 GMT, "Angel" <nos...@nospam.net> done
> >went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet
> >News'FROUPS:
> >>
> >>Angel
> >>
> >Angel, the individual posting under the nasme of 'shan' ios merely
> >another typical creep who lives to inflame, incite, and argue.
...or he is an honest person who says things are they are.
> >Please, pay no attention to his gross filth. If he thinks he can upset
> >you, he will keep creeping in to try harder.
You can't help being an idiot so yap away.
> Why does he/she use language like that?... I don't know anyone who
> talk's like that.
Good question. There is reason and you can find it in the original
response to my post.