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From: Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:46:58 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 10:46 pm
Subject: Re: True Worship
On Nov 9, 6:30 pm, Linda Lee <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Nov 9, 8:02 pm, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:Yes, it does. If God gave it to humanity in the person of Moses, or
> > On Nov 8, 6:55 pm, "Dr. R. Knapp" <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
> > > On Nov 6, 11:43 pm, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Nov 6, 7:40 pm, "Dr. R. Knapp" <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
> > > > > Are you a Jew or Jewish family? I am not, and I am not under the Old
> > > > > Testament Laws.
> > > > Luke 16:17
> > > > Did heaven and earth pass? I had not heard.
> > > No so the law does not fail, no one said it did,
> > You are wrong about that. I said it did.
> So you are saying, but Christ said the law did not fail in Luke 16:17
> > The Mosaic Code was never
> > Mark 10:5
> That does not necessarily mean God didn't give it to Moses.
with the intention that humanity should have it, God gave it to
humanity ("you"). If the precept originated with God, Moses never
owned it to "give" to anyone.
However, Jesus said that Moses gave it to humanity ("you"). Also note
> The entireThe same St. Paul who wrote those words also wrote in Romans 13 that
> law was given because of sins ("transgressions") committed due to the
> hardheartedness of sinners (Gal. 3:19); "the law is not made for a
> righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly
> and for sinners" (I Tim. 1:9). Righteousness could not be gained by
> the law (Gal. 3:21).
people like Hitler was "God's minister" whom God had put over the
German Jews, the Polish Jews, the Austrian Jews, the French Jews, etc.
as a terror "to the evil." The same was true of Nero and the
Christians. And anyone who resisted either of those two worthies was
resisting God and was therefore DAMNED.
13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no
> By the way, this in I Tim. 1:5 is the same teaching of Christ (thatWhere come from, a teaspoon of sewage in a barrel of wine results in a
> the law 'hung' upon loving God and loving one's neighbor - Matt.
> 1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity [agape/love] out of
> a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
barrel of sewage. I do not resurrect Paul on the fact that he also
says a few nice things.
> 1Ti 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vainAnd this simply is not a true statement about the Mosaic Code. The
> 1Ti 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither
> what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
> 1Ti 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
> 1Ti 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man,
> but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners,
> for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of
> mothers, for manslayers
"law" of Moses is a terrible thing that you would never consent to
live under. It oppressed women, gentiles, and slaves horribly. The
public savagery, burning of witches and adulteresses, stoning of
rebellious children is a ghastly code.
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