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Rod  
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 More options Nov 11 2012, 10:23 pm
Newsgroups: alt.peace, alt.messianic, alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.religion.christian.pentecostal, alt.bible.prophecy
From: Rod <nhraf...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:23:06 -0600
Local: Sun, Nov 11 2012 10:23 pm
Subject: Re: John F. Kennedy on world peace
On 11/11/2012 7:49 PM, Joshua Gemmell wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:25:27 -0800 (PST), Snow
> <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:

>> I have, therefore, chosen this time and this place to discuss a topic
>> on which ignorance too often abounds and the truth is too rarely
>> perceived -- yet it is the most important topic on earth: world peace.

>>      What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not
>> a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not
>> the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking
>> about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth
>> living, the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and
>> to build a better life for their children--not merely peace for
>> Americans but peace for all men and women--not merely peace in our
>> time but peace for all time.

>>      I speak of peace, therefore, as the necessary rational end of
>> rational men. I realize that the pursuit of peace is not as dramatic
>> as the pursuit of war--and frequently the words of the pursuer fall on
>> deaf ears. But we have no more urgent task.

>>      First: Let us examine our attitude toward peace itself. Too many
>> of us think it is impossible. Too many think it unreal. But that is a
>> dangerous, defeatist belief. It leads to the conclusion that war is
>> inevitable--that mankind is DOOMED--that we are gripped by forces we
>> cannot control.

>>      We need not accept that view. Our problems are manmade--
>> therefore, they can be solved by man. And man can be as big as he
>> wants. No problem of human destiny is beyond human beings. Man's
>> reason and spirit have often solved the seemingly unsolvable--and we
>> believe they can do it again.

>>      Let us focus instead on a more practical, more attainable peace--
>> based not on a sudden revolution in human nature but on a gradual
>> evolution in human institutions--on a series of concrete actions and
>> effective agreements which are in the interest of all concerned. There
>> is no single, simple key to this peace--no grand or magic formula to
>> be adopted by one or two powers. Genuine peace must be the product of
>> many nations, the sum of many acts. It must be dynamic, not static,
>> changing to meet the challenge of each new generation. For peace is a
>> process--a way of solving problems.

>>      With such a peace, there will still be quarrels and conflicting
>> interests, as there are within families and nations. World peace, like
>> community peace, does not require that each man love his neighbor--it
>> requires only that they live together in mutual tolerance, submitting
>> their disputes to a just and peaceful settlement. And history teaches
>> us that enmities between nations, as between individuals, do not last
>> forever. However fixed our likes and dislikes may seem, the tide of
>> time and events will often bring surprising changes in the relations
>> between nations and neighbors.

>> So, let us not be blind to our differences--but let us also direct
>> attention to our common interests and to the means by which those
>> differences can be resolved. And if we cannot end now our differences,
>> at least we can help make the world safe for diversity. For, in the
>> final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this
>> small planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our
>> children's future. And we are all mortal.
>> - John F. Kennedy

> (Isaiah 53:5) "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was
> bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon
> him; and with his stripes we are healed."

> John F. Kennedy was a man often attributed to having obtained earthly
> success without the help of his Catholic religion, but he was not a
> man of Peace by any means for he turned against his own  religion, and
> also against the mob who had helped him get elected.  Once he became
> the leader of our nation, he was great at making enemies of out of
> everyone. The people who think that he can be compared to the real
> Camelot Family of Christ are mistaken, and folly is forever their
> heritage.

> Isaiah was a prophet who had much to say about time, but where does
> Isaiah have anything to say about John F. Kennedy?  I find that the
> final prophecies revealed in the holy text does speak of Peace being
> obtained in the last day, but not without a huge price to pay.

> The bible speaks of Judgement coming down upon this earth, before man
> will be given Peace.

> It seems that all men have come short of the glory of God, and God's
> requires Justice to go forth, before Mercy.  For Mercy cannot rob
> Justice.  And Justice of God has a trademark.  It always ends with the
> destruction of one third.  When God sends forth his justice, he is
> always merciful to end the judgements after one third are destroyed.

> It is the folly of good men who think that Peace is obtainable without
> Justice.  Justice requires that Satan be captured and in prison inside
> a seal capstone before Peace can be ushered in.  Satan is the father
> of violence and he took Peace from the world, and covered it with a
> veil of darkness over the minds of men that keeps them from seeing eye
> to eye as brothers and living in Peace.

> The world is like a tree, the branches are the various nations and
> kingdoms, and the leaves are the problems that take away Peace.  If we
> take away the leaves (the problems) we still cannot bring about Peace
> in the world. Because Satan is at the root of the tree, and as long as
> Satan is free to walk the earth to and fro, there will never be Peace
> on Earth.

> However, Isaiah spoke of a Man Child who was wounded for our
> transgressions.  He was bruised in his heel for our iniquities: the
> chastisement of our Peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are
> healed.  I think this refers to coming of a special servant of God who
> will be bruised in his heel by Satan.  He is destined to be one of the
> Two Witnesses of God.  John the Revelator spoke of him in Revelation
> Chapter 11.  The Prophet Zechariah spoke of him in Zechariah Chapter
> three.

> The special mission of this Joshua is to direct the priesthood of God
> in how to capture Satan, and place Satan inside a seal capstone (like
> the one-eyed capstone you see on the US Dollar Bill) and place that
> capstone on top of the Pyramid of Khufu, for a thousand years of
> Peace.

> Because the Kingdom of Heaven has seven eyes, like the stone given to
> Joshua in Zechariah 3:9, but not like the one-eyed capstone seen on
> the US Dollar Bill.

>   – Joshua Gemmell (One Witness in The Hands of God.) <G><

   An interesting post Joshua, thank you.

    Rod


 
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