MARTIAL ARTS - ROOTED IN THE OCCULT
::: vera :::
The Martial Arts are more than just a method of self-defense or a system
of health exercises. They actually involve a life philosophy derived
from eastern religions. The testimonies of Karatekas a devout
practitioner of karate or other forms of martial arts do not hide the
fact that the martial arts are more than just a sport.
"Karatedo another form of karate is an art and I teach it as a way of
being, a way of life, as a method of developing one's self, and not as a
sport," states one teacher. Karate is not a fighting sport. This was
completely misconstrued by people of this country where it was taken and
turned into a sport.
There are many conflicting theories regarding the origin of the martial
arts. The account stated here is a widely accepted survey that traces
the general history of the martial arts and goes back too the dawn of
civilization in India. Three millennia ago in China, the arts were
developed even more extensively. By the establishment of the Feudal
States in 770 B.C., Kung fu was widely practiced.
In 1928 they were renamed War Arts and were awarded national
recognition. Over the centuries various aspects of the arts were
modified and eventually evolved into more or less violent types.
Northern and Southern schools and hard and soft forms also developed.
Kung fu was the original all inclusive term describing the martial arts.
Later, specific names were applied to its variations: karate, tai chi,
judo, jujitso, and aikido.
In Korea, the arts were known as Te Kwon Do. They were honed into their
highest forms of proficiency in Okinawa.
Though one often thinks of the arts as made in Japan, they have many
roots and cultural variations. The original religious philosophy of Kung
fu dates back as far as 2696 B.C., where it was rooted in the Occult
forms of divination known as the I-Ching and the book of Changes.
Lao-Tse, the Chinese sage born in 604 B.C., added further
embellishments. His teachings were set forth in a 5,280 word manuscript
called Tao Te Chang, also known as " the Tao" or "the Way".
He taught salvation could not be found in prayer but rather by the
observance of nature, the natural way.
As the trees bend with the wind, and rivers follow the path of least
resistance, so must man adapt to the rhythm with evil and wrong. The
next development in history of Kung fu took place when a monk named
Bodhidharma brought Buddhism to China in sixth century A.D. When he
discovered the monks sleeping during his lectures, he introduced
exercises to assist them in meditation.
Known as I-Ching Sutura, his system combined Kung fu with the
philosophical principle of Zen to develop a highly sophisticated form of
weaponless fighting. The monks at his Shaolin temple became famous for
their savage abilities of defense which they employed whenever they were
attacked in the course of pilgrimages. Eventually two schools of martial
arts evolved; Ch'uan Fe (Kung fu) based on the hard (external) school of
Buddhism, and other arts founded on the soft (internal) school of
Taoism. Martial arts have evolved into six basic forms by which they are
known. In the Western world they are known as: Kung Fu, Tai Chi Ch'uan,
Karate, Akido, Judo and Jujitsu.
Such Occult experimentation is forbidden in Leviticus 19:31. Karate
works by inducing a passivity in the mind setting the stage for a type
of self-hypnosis. A demon then enters and gives supernatural strength
and power. Karate teachers call this "going into perfection." Kung Fu
which is rooted in Zen Buddhism, was popularized by a TV series of that
name. Bruce Lee movies (Enter the Dragon; Way of the Dragon; Return of
the Dragon; Game of Death) also spread this occult science across the
nation.
Spirits of Murder, Hatred, Pride, Bitterness, Depression, Resentment,
Fear, Violence, Lust for Power, Lust for (green, brown or black) Belts,
Sexual Lust, Fighting, Rage, Destruction, Suicide, Sadism and Masochism
are some of the spirits commonly found in those who have trained in
Martial Arts. Some of the more heavily possessed individuals have also
become very adept at Mind control, Telepathy, Telekinetic, Mind reading,
Astral projection and Soul travel under the leadership of demonic
guides.
http://www.farsinet.com/truth/index5.html
Peace,
::: vera :::
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sensi
sensi:
God rooted in the occult.
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Jude Alexander
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>
> sensi:
> God rooted in the occult.
Sensi, did you go to the site where the quotes are being taken from.
This idiotic site also has the following:
According to Deuteronomy 23:2 No one born of a forbidden marriage nor
any of his descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, even down
to the ten generation.
The Poor child will be under the control of the evil spirits causing a
lot of trouble in his/her life. Ten generations of curses must be
broken if he/she is ever to be able to feel at ease in the house of
the LORD. This curse leads to church hopping and the inability to ever
feel at home anywhere.
Spirits commonly found in the "Bastard": Lust, Sadism, Masochism, Sex
goddess, such as of the female body (Venus worship), worship of the
male body (Phallic worship), Nudity, Nakedness, Pornography, Rebellion
and Rejection.
Get it. This loon is saying that children born out of wedlock
(bastards) are filled with the above listed demons! lol It also goes
into other types of people and the demons they're most commonly filled
with. When I was a fundamentalist I met people who thought that
EVERYTHING has a demon attached to it, i.e. the demon of nicotine, the
demon of alcohol, the demon of envy, the demon of .... well you get
the point.
(snipped all the rest.)
Feather Forestwalker
Thank God we are under grace, eh?
It's an Iranian-Christian site. Some of the stuff on there's quite
interesting and uplifting, aside from abiding by their interpretation of
the ancient Jewish law.
It says at the bottom that Jesus Christ is the only way, which is true.
How can they name demons? *smile*
I remember attending to a church where they named demons, calling them
"greed," "lust," etc.
Then I remembered something that Jesus Himself said: the myriad demons
that possessed a certain man were simply called "Legion," for they were
many.
Where in Scripture do we read of demons having other names???
In James, we are told, that these sins of the flesh, greed, lust, etc.,
are part of their / our own evil desire:
James 1:13-15 (NIV)
13 When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God
cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; 14 but each one is
tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed. 15
Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when
it is full-grown, gives birth to death.
See? We're responsible for whether or not we act on something.
We're BORN separated from God, yes, but when we become of age and have
accepted Jesus Christ, our responsibility lies in the fact that we still
have human natures and we have a CHOICE.
The above-interpretation of the Old Testament Law shows that these folks
think that a curse has to be broken.
Where is that found in Scripture? And where in the New Covenant, especially?
God bless,
Feather
Jude Alexander
"Feather Forestwalker" <fea...@DONTWANTNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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OR, how can you know which demon goes to what act. They're crazy.
> I remember attending to a church where they named demons, calling
them
> "greed," "lust," etc.
>
> Then I remembered something that Jesus Himself said: the myriad
demons
> that possessed a certain man were simply called "Legion," for they
were
> many.
>
> Where in Scripture do we read of demons having other names???
>
> In James, we are told, that these sins of the flesh, greed, lust,
etc.,
> are part of their / our own evil desire:
I agree. Our bad behavior such as stealing, killing, etc. are
strickly from our own desires to do these things.
> James 1:13-15 (NIV)
>
> 13 When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For
God
> cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; 14 but each one
is
> tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and
enticed. 15
> Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin,
when
> it is full-grown, gives birth to death.
Yet, I have to point out that Paul pretty much contradicted this when
he claimed that we were pots of clay made one to honest and one to
dishonor as well as say that we awere all PRE-destined and, in my
words, fixed toward a pre-programed destiny.
> See? We're responsible for whether or not we act on something.
>
> We're BORN separated from God, yes, but when we become of age and
have
> accepted Jesus Christ, our responsibility lies in the fact that we
still
> have human natures and we have a CHOICE.
>
> The above-interpretation of the Old Testament Law shows that these
folks
> think that a curse has to be broken.
>
> Where is that found in Scripture? And where in the New Covenant,
especially?
I guess by now, you've been around enough to know there are ALL kinds
out there...
sensi
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No, I didn't go there. I figured if it's from Vera it'a hard times for her
and I'm not willing to be drugged by her torturing others.
>
sensi
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sensi:
AMEN! Enough for All!
>
> It's an Iranian-Christian site. Some of the stuff on there's quite
> interesting and uplifting, aside from abiding by their interpretation of
> the ancient Jewish law.
>
> It says at the bottom that Jesus Christ is the only way, which is true.
> How can they name demons? *smile*
>
> I remember attending to a church where they named demons, calling them
> "greed," "lust," etc.
>
sensi:
Yep....demons are spirit,, greed,lust and fear are all demons. "Perfect
LOVE cast out fear"
Love is also a spirit that unites us with GOD the spirit of Love.
> Then I remembered something that Jesus Himself said: the myriad demons
> that possessed a certain man were simply called "Legion," for they were
> many.
>
sensi:
We all have many of those little devils..
I grew up with having them in my mind & heart.
When I stopped the nonsense of thinking I needed them I learned many
valuables lessons about love, patience and compassion, which are also
spirits.
> Where in Scripture do we read of demons having other names???
>
> In James, we are told, that these sins of the flesh, greed, lust, etc.,
> are part of their / our own evil desire:
sensi:
Yep! Desires......that's a mighty word with both good and bad in it.
.
> James 1:13-15 (NIV)
>
> 13 When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God
> cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; 14 but each one is
> tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed. 15
> Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it
> is full-grown, gives birth to death.
>
> See? We're responsible for whether or not we act on something.
sensi:
We're responsible for what we see, hear and how we act.
>
> We're BORN separated from God, yes, but when we become of age and have
> accepted Jesus Christ, our responsibility lies in the fact that we still
> have human natures and we have a CHOICE.
sensi:
It's the demons of fear, lust and greed that separate us.
All the while we have peace, patience and love within us alongside of our
demonic activity. (knock,knock) They're both brothers of the *making* of a
Son of god or a son of man.
Br@dley
> MARTIAL ARTS - ROOTED IN THE OCCULT
> The Martial Arts are more than just a method of self-defense or a
> system of health exercises.
> They actually involve a life philosophy
> derived from eastern religions.
Agreed. However many people do't use the classical definition of MA and
include many other combative sports under the gernal term Martial Arts.
Many classical MA forms (and newly developed ones) also are "watered
down" and are more like a sport, others have been redesigned entirely
around the Christian belief system. Then there are those classical MAs
that are pretty void of any religion/philosophy (that conflicts with
Christians beliefs).
One can't generalise as MA are very diverse.
> The testimonies of Karatekas a devout
> practitioner of karate or other forms of martial arts do not hide the
> fact that the martial arts are more than just a sport.
> "Karatedo another form of karate is an art and I teach it as a way of
> being, a way of life, as a method of developing one's self, and not
> as a sport," states one teacher. Karate is not a fighting sport. This
> was completely misconstrued by people of this country where it was
> taken and turned into a sport.
So what he's saying is that classical Karate is mor than the "sport" but
many modern practitioners have made it into a sport mostly void of the
spiritual roots.
> There are many conflicting theories regarding the origin of the
> martial arts. The account stated here is a widely accepted survey
> that traces the general history of the martial arts and goes back too
> the dawn of civilization in India. Three millennia ago in China, the
> arts were developed even more extensively. By the establishment of
> the Feudal States in 770 B.C., Kung fu was widely practiced.
>
> In 1928 they were renamed War Arts and were awarded national
> recognition. Over the centuries various aspects of the arts were
> modified and eventually evolved into more or less violent types.
That all sounds a little wishy-washy.
> Northern and Southern schools and hard and soft forms also developed.
> Kung fu was the original all inclusive term describing the martial
> arts.
Actually kungfu styles were known as "fists", not Martial Art.
> Later, specific names were applied to its variations: karate,
> tai chi, judo, jujitso, and aikido.
>
> In Korea, the arts were known as Te Kwon Do.
Um, no. Taekwondo is a modern culmination of tradional Korean MA schools
to form a national MA,
--
regards,
Bradley
A Christian Response
http://www.pastornet.net.au/response
Mark T
> How can they name demons? *smile*
> I remember attending to a church where they named demons, calling them
> "greed," "lust," etc.
... flatulence, clogged vacuum cleaner, rock'n'roll, cancer, argumentation,
...
I've heard 'em all! ;-)
Mark T
> One can't generalise as MA are very diverse.
You talking about SEX again?????
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Now THAT's funny! You got the gift, Mark!
Jude Alexander
"Mark T" <www...@tdoyoumean.2203> wrote in message
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>
> > One can't generalise as MA are very diverse.
>
>
> You talking about SEX again?????
>
> ... oops! ...
>
> .... MARTIAL arts not MARITAL ARTS!!!! ....
Martial arts not martial tarts? lol
Mark T
>> > How can they name demons? *smile*
>> > I remember attending to a church where they named demons, calling
> them
>> > "greed," "lust," etc.
>> ... flatulence, clogged vacuum cleaner, rock'n'roll, cancer,
> argumentation, ...
>> I've heard 'em all! ;-)
>
> Now THAT's funny! You got the gift, Mark!
All those demons have been named in my presence at pentecostal churches I
have attended. One Aussie pentecostal had a ministry of casting out
malignant demons of cancer thus supposedly curing people in Pacific Islands
where he holidayed ... er ... "ministered".
In some cases I have burst out laughing ... in which case the "exorcist"
thinks you're possessed and comes over to you.
Check out these crazy sites for names of demons ........
http://www.demonbuster.com/z15nod.html
http://www.lakehamiltonbiblecamp.com/man/massdm5.htm
psalmsmith
I don't really make a big deal out of this, but if you make the
complaint of pagan/occult origins, then there is something you have to
know to avoid hypocrasy.
Why should it matter that martial arts is rooted in the occult,
if we ignore the fact that Easter is rooted in the occult?
we can't have it both ways. either accept the fact that people will
paint the face of Christ on top of martial arts, or we ourselves must
stop painting the face of Christ on top of a pagan fertility rite.
If you celebrate Easter, then you don't really have the right to make
this complaint. Think about it. If a Christians' most important holy
day found it's origins in the worship of another god, how will they
complain about another's exercise regimen?
Yes, all these things, yoga, krate, oestre - they are food offered unto
idols. The first one our fathers ate, how quick we balk at the children
eating yet another?
Is it terrible? yes. But lest we be found hypocrites, we can't do the
one and then complain about the other.
Relevant scripture:
Ac 15:29* That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood,
and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep
yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
Ac 21:25* As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and
concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep
themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from
strangled, and from fornication.
1 Corinthians 8:10-13 "For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit
at meat in the idol零 temple, shall not the conscience of him which is
weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; And
through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ
died? But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak
conscience, ye sin against Christ. Wherefore, if meat make my brother to
offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my
brother to offend."
1 Corinthians 10:17-26 "For we being many are one bread, and one body:
for we are all partakers of that one bread. Behold Israel after the
flesh: are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?
What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in
sacrifice to idols is any thing? But I say, that the things which the
Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I
would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Ye cannot drink
the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of
the Lord零 table, and of the table of devils. Do we provoke the Lord to
jealousy? are we stronger than he? All things are lawful for me, but all
things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things
edify not. Let no man seek his own, but every man another零 wealth.
Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for
conscience sake: For the earth is the Lord零, and the fulness thereof."
In article <3q2fd7F...@individual.net>,
Eric Fisher
i appreciated your response.
(psalmsmith) posted:
Ok, I'm going to rant.
I don't really make a big deal out of this, but if you make the
complaint of pagan/occult origins, then there is something you have to
know to avoid hypocrasy.
Why should it matter that martial arts is rooted in the occult, if we
ignore the fact that Easter is rooted in the occult?
<><><><>
it matters if we plan on sending christian children to m.a. classes, to
know that there is a possibility the instructor may be connecting his
philosophy to the original ideas.
it's not like christians are sending their kids to learn easter training
in a series of secular classes.
many m.a. instructors hold a very deep reverence for the traditional
roots, in fact, more so than the average christian has for christianitys
traditional roots and original ideas.
psalmsmith
ericf...@webtv.net (Eric Fisher) wrote:
> bradley,
> i appreciated your response.
>
> (psalmsmith) posted:
> Ok, I'm going to rant.
> I don't really make a big deal out of this, but if you make the
> complaint of pagan/occult origins, then there is something you have to
> know to avoid hypocrasy.
> Why should it matter that martial arts is rooted in the occult, if we
> ignore the fact that Easter is rooted in the occult?
> <><><><>
>
> it matters if we plan on sending christian children to m.a. classes, to
> know that there is a possibility the instructor may be connecting his
> philosophy to the original ideas.
> it's not like christians are sending their kids to learn easter training
> in a series of secular classes.
There are "Christian Martial Artists" around here, in Raleigh NC. I
assume there are a few around you as well.
> many m.a. instructors hold a very deep reverence for the traditional
> roots, in fact, more so than the average christian has for christianitys
> traditional roots and original ideas.
>
So, it will become OK to use then once the reverence for it's roots dies
away?
Joan
"Mark T" <www...@tdoyoumean.2203> wrote in message
> "Jude Alexander" wrote:
>
>>> > How can they name demons? *smile*
>>> > I remember attending to a church where they named demons, calling
>> them
>>> > "greed," "lust," etc.
>>> ... flatulence, clogged vacuum cleaner, rock'n'roll, cancer,
>> argumentation, ...
>>> I've heard 'em all! ;-)
>>
>> Now THAT's funny! You got the gift, Mark!
>
>
> All those demons have been named in my presence at pentecostal churches I
> have attended. One Aussie pentecostal had a ministry of casting out
> malignant demons of cancer thus supposedly curing people in Pacific
> Islands where he holidayed ... er ... "ministered".
> In some cases I have burst out laughing ... in which case the "exorcist"
> thinks you're possessed and comes over to you.
Had that happen to me as well. The Pastor was prying my eyes open looking
for a demon and yelling at it to come out, I couldn't help but laugh, that
gave him another one to look for. I got out of there and never went back.
After awhile He phoned and said satan would be clapping his hands since I'd
decided to leave that church ... I was clapping along with him.
Joan
Eric Fisher
There are "Christian Martial Artists" around here, in Raleigh NC. I
assume there are a few around you as well.
<><><><>
There are "Christian Wiccans" around also. the point is, we need to be
careful who we send our kids to. just because they stuck a fish sign on
their bumper does not mean they should be trusted with the most precious
thing we've been entrusted with.
...and a quick reminder of the seriousness of it all should become
quickly apparent when half the title on their business card is rooted in
the occult.
psalmsmith
ericf...@webtv.net (Eric Fisher) wrote:
Very true, it is wise to argue that certain people may not be safe. Or
other people will lead them further from the Gospel. There is a valid
arguement against it. But not that it's rooted in the occult.
My point it, I don't think it ever really gets "OK"
Someone lays meat down before an idol and offers it. In the eating
thereof, they learned to make matter react in a certain way of
incantation. An idol of witchcraft, if you prefer. They eat the meat,
and they gain a certain kind of power of the air.
And they say, well we don't have to worship the idol to eat this meat.
But it's no good to let the meat sit around for 10 years and then eat
it, either. Or 300 years. or 3000. What exactly does time change?
Was the meat ever really good to eat in the first place?
Moses Lim
> MARTIAL ARTS - ROOTED IN THE OCCULT
You're nuts! :)
Anyway, I prefer a Glock 18C.
::: vera :::
this article over to ASH, and SACCADE asked me to post his answer here,
so there it is)
> MARTIAL ARTS - ROOTED IN THE OCCULT
ie - spiritual/mystical tradition
> The Martial Arts are more than just a method of self-defense or a
> system
> of health exercises. They actually involve a life philosophy derived
> from eastern religions.
Absolutely True.
> The testimonies of Karatekas, a devout practitioner of karate or other
> forms of martial arts, do not hide the
> fact that the martial arts are more than just a sport.
Karateka is a practitioner of KARATE(DO) and doesn't have to be a
devout or totally dedicated student; they could be a 7yo girl who's
been going 2x a week for the last month.
> "Karatedo, another form of karate, is an art and I teach it as a way
> of
> being, a way of life, as a method of developing one's self, and not as
> a
> sport," states one teacher.
Karatedo is Karate. Karate - empty hand; do - way.
Karatedo = way of the empty hand.
Karatedo = Karate. It's not another 'secret' form or style. It's just
the proper terminolgy for Okinawan Martial Art (both unarmed and with
weapons).
> Karate is not a fighting sport.
Ummmm... Yes it is.
> This was completely misconstrued by people of this country where it
> was > taken and turned into a sport.
The Okinawans, during the occupation by the Japanese, were not allowed
to possess weapons of any kind.
Their need to defend themselves and to try to repel the invaders lead
to a Martial System which is known as Karate. The empty hand techniques
were largely based on the Japanese Unarmed fighting systems and many of
the immobilisation and projection (locks and throws) techniques were
borrowed from battlefield Jutsu arts.
So, it was a fighting system.
And one of the best ways to refine and test your skills in anything
combative is to compete with others who are skilled.
So, it was also a sport.
Don't try to take credit for something that has been that way for
hundreds of years. The Japs started it, not the Yanks.
>
> There are many conflicting theories regarding the origin of the
> martial
> arts. The account stated here is a widely accepted survey that traces
> the general history of the martial arts and goes back too the dawn of
> civilization in India. Three millennia ago in China, the arts were
> developed even more extensively. By the establishment of the Feudal
> States in 770 B.C., Kung fu was widely practiced.
Yeah, the indian Yogi is accepted as the founding father for Chinese
Martial Art, but you're forgetting about the Romans, Greeks, Africans,
Celts and other Europeans and also Russians and Aboriginal peoples in
America and Australia.
Or were they all visited by this same Yogi a few thousand years earlier
on the other side of the world?
I DID hear that he founded the Colleseum in Rome and started his career
as a gladiator for Emperor Nero III, winning his first match against a
Numidian called Thomas UmmagummaIlikesheep.
>
> In 1928 they were renamed War Arts and were awarded national
> recognition. Over the centuries various aspects of the arts were
> modified and eventually evolved into more or less violent types.
How many centurys have there been since 1928? I can't work it out...
>
> Northern and Southern schools and hard and soft forms also developed.
> Kung fu was the original all inclusive term describing the martial
> arts.
> Later, specific names were applied to its variations: karate, tai chi,
> judo, jujitso, and aikido.
This is total bullshit.
Judo (Gentle way - JiuJitsu without the battlefield killing stuff) is
nothing to do with Northern of Southern styles of Wushu or Xiolin
KungFu.
>
> In Korea, the arts were known as Te Kwon Do. They were honed into
> their
> highest forms of proficiency in Okinawa.
This is SOOOO wrong, it's unbelievable.
The problem with the internet is that there is information on anything
just a click away.
People do not digest this information or even bother to find out if
it's accurate or not.
It's a paradox that with all the information in the world available to
them, people are more stupid than ever.
>
> Though one often thinks of the arts as made in Japan, they have many
> roots and cultural variations. The original religious philosophy of
> Kung
> fu dates back as far as 2696 B.C., where it was rooted in the Occult
> forms of divination known as the I-Ching and the book of Changes.
The book of Five rings is a JAPANESE book.
And was not written in 2696BC.
Neither of these books mentioned have anything to do with the Occult.
They are treatises on the Martial Way, in particular, the Way of
Samurai.
> Lao-Tse, the Chinese sage born in 604 B.C., added further
> embellishments. His teachings were set forth in a 5,280 word
> manuscript
> called Tao Te Chang, also known as " the Tao" or "the Way".
>
> He taught salvation could not be found in prayer but rather by the
> observance of nature, the natural way.
>
> As the trees bend with the wind, and rivers follow the path of least
> resistance, so must man adapt to the rhythm with evil and wrong. The
> next development in history of Kung fu took place when a monk named
> Bodhidharma brought Buddhism to China in sixth century A.D. When he
> discovered the monks sleeping during his lectures, he introduced
> exercises to assist them in meditation.
6th Century AD?
You just said that he came to China from India 3,000 years ago?
Which is it?!
>
> Known as I-Ching Sutura, his system combined Kung fu with the
> philosophical principle of Zen to develop a highly sophisticated form
> of
> weaponless fighting. The monks at his Shaolin temple became famous for
> their savage abilities of defense which they employed whenever they
> were
> attacked in the course of pilgrimages. Eventually two schools of
> martial
> arts evolved; Ch'uan Fe (Kung fu) based on the hard (external) school
> of
> Buddhism, and other arts founded on the soft (internal) school of
> Taoism. Martial arts have evolved into six basic forms by which they
> are
> known. In the Western world they are known as: Kung Fu, Tai Chi
> Ch'uan,
> Karate, Akido, Judo and Jujitsu.
Wrong again... You obviously have no idea what you're talking about...
Six basic forms... *pffff* what a load of shit.
>
> Such Occult experimentation is forbidden in Leviticus 19:31. Karate
> works by inducing a passivity in the mind setting the stage for a type
> of self-hypnosis. A demon then enters and gives supernatural strength
> and power. Karate teachers call this "going into perfection."
WTFuck?!!
I'm sorry...
So, 'entering the zone' in tennis means that the player is being
possessed by a demon and is going to have supernatural strength and
ability?!
HAHAHA what a load of shite!
It's concentration, allowing yourself to exist entirely in the moment
and react immediatly to any stimuli.
Self-hypnosis indeed... PAH!
If you knew anything about Japanese ideal then you would know that
everything they do is in the pursuit of perfection. To actually achieve
perfection is Impossible - there is always something to improve.
Do you really think that any self respecting Buddhist, Taoist or
Samurai would allow themselves to think that they are allowing
themselves to be possessed by an Evil spirit or Demon?! HAHAHA!!
> Kung Fu which is rooted in Zen Buddhism,
Or Taoism or Confusism or any form of spiritual system of
enlightenment.
> was popularized by a TV series of that name. Bruce Lee movies (Enter
> the > Dragon; Way of the Dragon; Return of the Dragon; Game of Death)
> also spread this occult science across the nation.
Nothing to do with the fact that it looked cool and that every man,
secretly, wants to be able to kick everybody's arse.
While TV and Cinema did allow many people to discover Eastern Martial
Art in the Western World, that to say it spread an occult Science is
total shit.
Boxing and Wrestling have been about for millenia, as has kick boxing
and many other forms of battlefield art that everyone used before
HongKong Cinema brought BruceLee et al from the Orient.
>
> Spirits of Murder, Hatred, Pride, Bitterness, Depression, Resentment,
> Fear, Violence, Lust for Power, Lust for (green, brown or black)
> Belts,
> Sexual Lust, Fighting, Rage, Destruction, Suicide, Sadism and
> Masochism
> are some of the spirits commonly found in those who have trained in
> Martial Arts.
What a crock of shit - anyone who is serious about Martial Art (even if
they are not when they start, they soon realise the virtues of such
systems and become champions of a better way of life. A peaceful,
respectful and courteous one.
Most systems will have several Tenets that are the basis of their
system:
eg. The form that I teach (SelounDo) has these as our Foundation:
Self Respect and Discipline, Courtesy, Integrity, Perseverance, Self
Control, Indominatable Spirit.
I shall Observe the Tenets of the Art;
I shall respect my Teachers and Seniors;
I shall never misuse my Knowledge;
I shall be a Champion of Freedom and Justice;
I shall always Strive for Harmony, Justice and Personal Values
> Some of the more heavily possessed individuals have also
> become very adept at Mind control, Telepathy, Telekinetic, Mind
> reading,
> Astral projection and Soul travel under the leadership of demonic
> guides.
Seems like someone has been watching far too many KungFu films!!!
Do you really think that people can do all this?! You have got to be so
fucking gullible!
I'm sorry Vera, but you're totally wrong here!
That's why I don't believe that you believe this is true.
Apart from getting 90% of it totally wrong, I don't think you are
stupid enough to actually think this.
You're far too clever to believe in all the shit that's here.
Pete x
Br@dley
Pay attention to how they promote themselves and go to a free beginner
lesson and talk to the instructor. Most will dismiss concerns about
conflicts with Christian beliefs so do your own research on the MA style
and school.
Br@dley
Following that logic... why not go out and get fresh meat from a known
good source? :)
> Was the meat ever really good to eat in the first place?
God seems to like it BBQed :)
Roy Mock
"Br@dley" <bra...@usenet.com> wrote in message
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... and offered to the gods of the long-weekend ... :-)
psalmsmith
"Br@dley" <bra...@usenet.com> wrote:
Seems like you took my words more literally than I did. 'Meat offered
unto idols' is not a t-bone or a lambchop. It can be meat or bread or
wine in a very practical sense. But in the right sense it would mean
ideas and practices, or another a framework for thinking.
Or it could just mean that it is a bad idea to consume anything that
came to exist by way of idol-worship. Not because the idol is any thing
of course, but that I durst not provoke my God. As Paul said on the
same subject, all things are lawful, but not all things are profitable.
"It is my meat to do the work of the Father." Is he talking about
butchered and bar-be-qued muscle tissue here?
Br@dley
> In article <TNY%e.5340$U51....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> "Br@dley" <bra...@usenet.com> wrote:
>
>> psalmsmith wrote:
>>> In article <9684-433...@storefull-3215.bay.webtv.net>,
<>
>>> Was the meat ever really good to eat in the first place?
>>
>> God seems to like it BBQed :)
> Seems like you took my words more literally than I did. ....
Nah, I was just having some fun.