Re: OT - who's behind the Christmas vs. Holiday greetings fiasco?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <439C73C3...@heartmdphd.com>:
>
> >"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>
> >> In <1134284931.4...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Andrew B.
> >> Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> [. . .]
>
> >> > The use of the word Christmas in advertising is not like using the name of
> >> > the LORD in vain.
>
> >> Gee, gues that Jesus guy just didn't "get it" when he drove out those
> >> money changers...
>
> >Stores are not places of worship.
>
> But the money changers in the temple were not "stores"
Correct. So there would be no reason to expect the LORD to be angry
about money changers in stores.
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Many Christmas blessings,
Andrew
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Grandpa Chuck wrote:
>
> > Considering the premise of the Star Trek series with people of many
> > different races from many different societies I would not expect them
> > to observe the religious of holidays of any of the planets in the
> > Federation. There were occasions when they allowed Mr. Spock and
> > others to do their own private observances of their particular beliefs
> > in the privacy of their own quarters or if desired for other members
> > of the crew to watch if they chose to.
>
> Dunno about your country Chuck but over here that is the point.
>
> We have many faiths, a lot of them non-christian in this country.
>
> Now people may debate about whether that is a good thing. I don't
> really care, but the point is that:
> 1) Other religions have festivals at the same time of year.
Not on the same day (12/25/2005) which is officially recognized as
Christmas in the U.S.A.
> 2) Taking christianity out of any celebrations means that all can be
> included.
Non-christians have the free will that the LORD has given them to do
what they will on 12/25/2005.
> It becomes something for everyone which cannot be a bad thing.
Only the LORD's opinion matters here.
> You can
> do your own thing with the religious aspect, but it does not exclude
> anyone based on their beliefs.
This perceived exclusion serves as a preview of what is to come when we
all die and are judged by GOD the Father:
> God has been irrelevant to this time of
> year for a long time anyway.
The LORD is relevant 24/7/365.25
> I'm assuming that we can agree that Christ preached peace and basically
> to get on with everyone.
The LORD is the way, the truth, and the life.
> This way, everyone is together despite their
> differences.
The LORD has made all, both the righteous as well as the unrighteous,
both the Christian and the non-christian.
> And that in itself is something to celebrate
Yes, the good news about salvation for all through faith in Christ Jesus
should motivate all to celebrate His birthday this Christmas Sunday
(12/25/2005).
<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu
>Non-christians have the free will that the LORD has given them to do
>what they will on 12/25/2005.
>
Absolute bollocks. There is no transport and everything is shut.
------------------------------------------------
Look at the logo and tell me Christianity isn't a death cult.
D Silverman BAAWA and bar.
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John Baker
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
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Les Hellawell
Cthulhu" <yourna...@martyrdom.org> wrote:
>In alt.atheism , Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD said:
>>Non-christians have the free will that the LORD has given them to do
>>what they will on 12/25/2005.
>>
>
>Absolute bollocks. There is no transport and everything is shut.
Actually more and more establishments have started opening on the
25th. Not much yet but certainly petrol stations, twenty four hour
mini-markets and some pubs in the evenings now open.
Sundays used to be deadly dull as well and the "Lord's Day
Observance Society" was allowed to dictate what we could or
could not do. Thankfully they have lost that battle to control our
lives.
I agree though it is does remain a bit of a dull day for most people
as the last bastion of Christianities grip on what the rest of us are
allowed to do has yet to be fully breached. We surely cannot be
fully free to our rights of freedom of conscience and religion until
this Taliban like control on the 25th is swept away and we are
all free to do as we wish within good laws that applies to all.
Great day for hill walkers though.
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
NC
>
> Only the LORD's opinion matters here.
Good, that means that nothing YOU say matters. Now go away.
>
> This perceived exclusion serves as a preview of what is to come when
> we all die and are judged by GOD the Father:
Alrighty then. Since everyone dies, there's no reason for you to blather
on about it 'cause we'll all find out. Now go away.
> The LORD has made all, both the righteous as well as the unrighteous,
> both the Christian and the non-christian.
God gets what God wants. If he wants to fry us you can't stop him. So,
you can go away now.
> my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me:
Maybe you're being punished. Stop trying to second-guess your God and go
away.
Christopher A. Lee
<myshr...@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:00:03 +0000, "<Yournamehere>'s personal
>Cthulhu" <yourna...@martyrdom.org> wrote:
>
>>In alt.atheism , Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD said:
>>>Non-christians have the free will that the LORD has given them to do
>>>what they will on 12/25/2005.
>>>
>>
>>Absolute bollocks. There is no transport and everything is shut.
>
>Actually more and more establishments have started opening on the
>25th. Not much yet but certainly petrol stations, twenty four hour
>mini-markets and some pubs in the evenings now open.
I don't know whether that's a good thing or not.
I'm glad to see them open.
But when I was a kid my father used to work Christmas mornings (on the
railways, London Underground). This was an official day off and he
needed the premium overtime rate. I would have rather he didn't,
because he worked a horrible shift pattern which meant he couldn't
spend much time with us kids anyway. Even though we were an atheist
family who didn't really celebrate Christmas it was a fun time,
opening presents, a special dinner etc. We would have preferred him to
be with us when we opened the presents instead of opening his
separately when he came home from work.
In those days there was a proper train service on the 24th and some
sort of service on Christmas morning.
After Igraduated and started work (in Stoke), and travelled back to my
parents (in London) by train on the 24th, the last train was just
atfter lunch because they wanted the crews to finish their day at
their home location. No service at all on Christmas day.
Being a bachelor who didn't really celebrate Christmas, I tended to be
the on-call person.
My brother worked in the national heath service and also worked
Christmas. Hospital Christmas was fun. They went out of their way to
make it special for the patients.
>Sundays used to be deadly dull as well and the "Lord's Day
>Observance Society" was allowed to dictate what we could or
>could not do. Thankfully they have lost that battle to control our
>lives.
When I lived in Manchester the chief of police was one of the rare
fundamentalist loonies - James Anderton. He selectively enforced the
law according to his religious beliefs. Which meant that all the DIY
superstores were closed on Sundays but the ones in the surrounding
area, like Denton, were close to the boundary. The best one, in
Stretford, was too close to his HQ so they didn't dare open on Sunday.
He lived near Sale so SALE DIY was like a speakeasy. You'd knock on
the door abd they'd pull back a panel to inspect you before letting
you in.
His first action when he got the job was to raid city crentre
newstands because he felt the Sun and the Star were pornographic.
In an inteview on the radio he said he heard God telling him what to
do, God had placed him in that job, and people should be at church on
Sunday not shopping.
There was an unholy alliance between the Lord's Day Observance society
and the trade unions.
The society wanted to impose their sabbath on everybody, and the shop
worker's union wanted its members to have the day off. But anybody in
the transport and many other industries had to work it. Even I was on
call with my pager.
>I agree though it is does remain a bit of a dull day for most people
>as the last bastion of Christianities grip on what the rest of us are
>allowed to do has yet to be fully breached. We surely cannot be
>fully free to our rights of freedom of conscience and religion until
>this Taliban like control on the 25th is swept away and we are
>all free to do as we wish within good laws that applies to all.
I agree.
I always hated Christmas because you couldn't get away from the
Christmasness. All the TV movies, shows etc were Christmas related and
sentimentally yukky. About the only Christmas movie I like is White
Christmas - but thats because I'm a fan of Danny Kaye, Vera-Ellen, and
Rosemary Clooney, even Bing Crosby is OK in it.
>Great day for hill walkers though.
Yes.
I used to go out for a drive into the Pennines or Dales. It was
wonderful and uncrowded to walk.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > The LORD continue to guide me in everything I say, do, and write.
>
> Too bad it's telling you lies, then.
The LORD remains kind, just, and right.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:26:01 -0500, in alt.atheism
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> <439E0709...@heartmdphd.com>:
> >"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" wrote:
> >>
> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>
> >> You're suggesting it's somehow wrong for a blind person to want to see?
> >
> >It remains a sin to covet.
> >
> >Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
> >like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
> >this thread here during the next on-line chat(12/15/05) from 6 to 7 pm
> >EST:
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
> >
> >For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
> >the LORD has reshaped me:
>
Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
> Why is this nonsense on alt.atheism?
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> news:439DBCFB...@heartmdphd.com:
>
> > Fred Stone wrote:
> >>
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> >> news:439D6B84...@heartmdphd.com:
> >>
> >> > Les Hellawell wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:11:27 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >> >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> wrote in article <439C73C4...@heartmdphd.com>:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> [. . .]
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> For that matter, there isn't anything in the NT text
> >> >> >> >> establishing a celebration of the birth of the Christ.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >We do it out of our love for Him.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> A tradition that began in the time of the Emperor Constantine.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Without love for Christ, it would not have been the long-standing
> >> >> >tradition that it has become.
> >> >>
> >> >> The problem of course is that the modern 'Christmas' has little
> >> >> to do with Christianity.
> >> >
> >> > Not for the discerning.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Discernment: A faculty given to believers so that they don't have to
> >> use their brains.
> >
> > Sour grapes.
>
> Projection.
It remains your choice to covet.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:59:00 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >Les Hellawell wrote:
> >>
> >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Les Hellawell wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Les Hellawell wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Les Hellawell wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Jim-Poncin wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Everybody,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Have a merry Saturnalia.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't feel guilty or alienated about it being materialistic - it's
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> always been a seasonal holiday (around the shortest day of the year)
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> with a lot of gift giving.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It was celebrated long before jesus was invented.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The early christian church took Saturnalia over along with some other
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> long existing hoidays (ex: spring easter) to co-opt it from other
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> then popular religions. Something similar was done with the "saints"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> taking over the roles of minor pagan gods.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Have a great Saturnalia.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > You may certainly celebrate whatever you like or not, dear Jim.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > You still have the free will that the LORD has given you.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > My choice is to celebrate Jesus' birthday:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Which if you believe the bible, didn't happen in December.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > It truth, the exact day of Christ Jesus' birth is not written in the
> >> >> >> >> >> > Bible.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Funny, you'd think if it was supposed to be a significant date in the
> >> >> >> >> >> religion, the text would have spent more time on it huh?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Christianity is not a religion but a relationship with Christ Jesus, who
> >> >> >> >> >is risen and remains a living Person.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >For this reason, His birthday remains in our hearts where it has the
> >> >> >> >> >most significance.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Fine, we are happy to leave you to it, that's your freedom of
> >> >> >> >> conscience, just as long as you leave us to do our own thing
> >> >> >> >> and not try to impose what you wish to do on us.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Do you seek to impose your Christian beliefs on us or are you
> >> >> >> >> happy to allow us our freedom of conscience as well?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >The LORD has given you free will. He has not given anyone the power to
> >> >> >> >take that away from you.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Please answer the question.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It was my choice to not answer an untruthful question.
> >> >>
> >> >> >> Do *you* seek to impose your Christian
> >> >> >> beliefs on us?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >No. The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you.
> >> >
> >> >You are welcome.
> >> >
> >> >All praises belong to the LORD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
> >> >mind, and strength.
> >> >
> >> >> Thank humanity you are a harmless crank though
> >> >> given the opportunity to impose you belief I wonder which you
> >> >> would regard as more important. Worship of you fake diety or
> >> >> my freedom of conscience? I don't think you would have any
> >> >> difficulty in deciding.
> >> >
> >> >Without the LORD, there can be no meaningful thoughts.
> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Or do
> >> >> >> >> you think freedom of conscience and religion only applies
> >> >> >> >> to Christians and not all.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >The LORD is the Creator of all, both the righteous and the unrighteous,
> >> >> >> >so that the free will possessed by all is from Him.
> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> A worthless assertion based on what you percieve to be the truth
> >> >> >> no doubt.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It is the truth.
> >> >>
> >> >> As you perceive it, yes you told us.
> >> >
> >> >It is what I discern.
> >> >
> >> >> People who think they know the truth with your conviction
> >> >> are the truly dangerous, cranks that down the ages have
> >> >> caused so much strife and human misery.
> >> >
> >> >Throughout human history, those with discerning hearts have led their
> >> >people to unprecedented periods of peace and prosperity.
> >>
> >> Wot the 'eck is a 'discerning heart'?
> >
> >King Solomon would be an example of someone who had a discerning heart.
>
> I did not adk for an example, I asked what one was.
"The discerning heart seeks knowledge, but the mouth of a fool feeds on
folly." (Proverbs 15:14)
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:58:58 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"> >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:25:34 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"> >> >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:09:53 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"> >> >> >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:22:28 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >> >> >> >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> >> >> >> >> >> article <439C73C4...@heartmdphd.com>:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> [. . .]
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> For that matter, there isn't anything in the NT text establishing a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> celebration of the birth of the Christ.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >We do it out of our love for Him.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> A tradition that began in the time of the Emperor Constantine.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Without love for Christ, it would not have been the long-standing
> >> >> >> >> >tradition that it has become.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The problem of course is that the modern 'Christmas' has little
> >> >> >> >> to do with Christianity.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Not for the discerning.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> excess with consumerism and its heart not your Christ.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Perhaps for the non-discerning.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yes my point exactly!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I am glad you agree.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully whether you are glad
> >> >> >about it or not.
> >> >>
> >> >> Fine, be grumpy if you wish.
> >> >
> >> >It remains my choice to continue my walk with the LORD, Whom I love with
> >> >all my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-))
> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> This I, am sure is something you bemoan, which is why I think we
> >> >> >> >> should return Christmas to the Christians to make of it what they
> >> >> >> >> wish and give our secular celebrations a new non Christian name.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Only the LORD's opinion matters and not mine.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Only to you.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >To all.
> >> >>
> >> >> Whatever you say sunshine.
> >> >
> >> >It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully :-)
> >> >
> >> >> >> Perhaps you could ask him if he agrees we should
> >> >> >> not use that term to cover non Christian activities. Let us know
> >> >> >> what he tells you. Thanks.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Non-christian activities are already aptly described.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> BTW how do you receive his opinions, you seem to be in good
> >> >> >> contact?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Through prayer.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yer yer, of course. It's all in your mind
> >> >
> >> >Actually, it is all in the LORD's mind.
> >>
> >> Sorry LORD :-)
> >
> >I am not the LORD. You are nonetheless forgiven as far as I am
> >concerned.
>
> Thank you for forgiving me your Lordship for having perceived and
> spoken only the truth as my Lord told me. My Lord is my guide
> and I follow him wherever I may. (whispered aside: he thinks his
> mind is his Lord. I looked in the mirror as he suggested and
> realised that my mind is my Lord which guides and informs me
> as his does him. Clearly he is still in denial as to the true meaning
> of his Lord which is within him, yet by telling me to look in
> a mirror he stumbled upon the truth.)
"The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)
Fred Stone
Covet what? Your shallow fantasies? No thanks. I'll take reality, warts
and all.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I can say one thing about these plans of ours: They are not being
decided by the typewriter strategists who expound their views in the
press or on the radio." - FDR
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Why is this nonsense on alt.atheism?
> >
> > Many who have expressed an interest in this thread are also regulars at alt.atheism.
>
It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully while it appears to
be your choice to remain a case in point.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" wrote:
> > >
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > >
> > > Then why is it the bible disagrees with you?
> >
> > "Where there is no opinion there can be no disagreement."
>
> Non sequitur, asshole.
Ouch. You may have the other cheek.
Mark K. Bilbo
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> David Jensen wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:26:01 -0500, in alt.atheism "Andrew B. Chung,
>> MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
>> <439E0709...@heartmdphd.com>:
>> >"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> >> > You still remind me of the blind man who has chosen to covet the
>> >> > vision of the seeing.
>> >>
>> >> You're suggesting it's somehow wrong for a blind person to want to
>> >> see?
>> >
>> >It remains a sin to covet.
>> >
>> >Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
>> >like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
>> >this thread here during the next on-line chat(12/15/05) from 6 to 7 pm
>> >EST:
>> >
>> >http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
>> >
>> >For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
>> >how the LORD has reshaped me:
>>
>> Why do you blame god for turning you into a loon.
>
> Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
>
>> Why is this nonsense on alt.atheism?
>
> Many who have expressed an interest in this thread are also regulars at
> alt.atheism.
Skippy, you're mistaking laughter at your expense for "interest."
--
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<snip>
> > That which you are "sour graping."
>
> Ah, another lying Christer, but that's redundant.
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Les Hellawell
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
Thank you for the clarification albeit by a somewhat roundabout route.
Les Hellawell
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
You do not fall into that category my foolish friend. Only a fool
claims to be capable of infallible discernment and then pronounces
it as the wisdom of a Solomon as you do. , the rest of us recognise
our fallability. That's why I call you a religious crank. It is not
people like you who bring peace to the world, quite the reverse.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Mocking is not my style.
> Only a fool
> claims to be capable of infallible discernment
As if the seeing claim themselves capable of perfect vision.
> and then pronounces
> it as the wisdom of a Solomon as you do.
Though the LORD is the source of all wisdom and the giver of discerning
hearts, wisdom and discernment are not the same thing.
> , the rest of us recognise
> our fallability.
.. but ignore your blindness.
> That's why I call you a religious crank.
Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
> It is not
> people like you who bring peace to the world, quite the reverse.
The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform. The truth is unsettling
for the untruthful.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
It was the route that the LORD guided me to take.
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David Jensen
>"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" wrote:
>>
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> > David Jensen wrote:
>> > > Why is this nonsense on alt.atheism?
>> >
>> > Many who have expressed an interest in this thread are also regulars at alt.atheism.
>>
>> Lying for jeebus again.
>
>It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully while it appears to
>be your choice to remain a case in point.
How can you continue to write truthfully when you have never started to
write truthfully?
Les Hellawell
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
<snipped, "the moving finger having writ moves on">
>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
You make my point for me exactly. Only a religious crank like you
who claims infallible discernment and a direct line to some fake
god claims to speak in its name and is capable of thinking he and
only he knows the truth. Only the fool claims to know the truth
which makes you a fool. Sorry but if you presume to 'teach' and
correct me then you must expect us to explain why we disregard
you as worthless. As you sow, so shall you reap.
> The truth is unsettling for the untruthful.
Correct but then the untruthful know their untruth and are
afraid for it to be exposed. The ignorant think they know the
truth but only deceive themselves.
I may have my blind spots but I see clearly where you come from
and that is the realms of ignorance and darkness where all gods
emerged into the minds of men. Ignorance is only truth when
you recognise it for what it is and lies are only lies when the liar
know he lies.
Mark K. Bilbo
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
Better let the LORD know you're a flop...
Les Hellawell
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
Of dear, not the straight and narrow then?
"And let him never suffer me
To swerve or turn aside"
- John Bunyan
Are you sure you are being guided by the right diety?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
The path to salvation is straight and narrow.
The doomed travel on a wide meandering path.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:00:16 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> <snipped, "the moving finger having writ moves on">
>
> >The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>
> You make my point for me exactly.
You seem desperate for points.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> > The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>
> Better let the LORD know
The LORD remains omniscient.
> you're a flop...
Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:38:45 -0500, in alt.atheism
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> <439EDCF5...@heartmdphd.com>:
> >"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" wrote:
> >>
> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> > David Jensen wrote:
> >> > > Why is this nonsense on alt.atheism?
> >> >
> >> > Many who have expressed an interest in this thread are also regulars at alt.atheism.
> >>
> >> Lying for jeebus again.
> >
> >It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully while it appears to
> >be your choice to remain a case in point.
>
> How can you continue to write truthfully when you have never started to
> write truthfully?
In the same manner that the seeing can do things that are impossible for
the blind.
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David Jensen
>David Jensen wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:38:45 -0500, in alt.atheism
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
>> <439EDCF5...@heartmdphd.com>:
>> >"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> >> > David Jensen wrote:
>> >> > > Why is this nonsense on alt.atheism?
>> >> >
>> >> > Many who have expressed an interest in this thread are also regulars at alt.atheism.
>> >>
>> >> Lying for jeebus again.
>> >
>> >It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully while it appears to
>> >be your choice to remain a case in point.
>>
>> How can you continue to write truthfully when you have never started to
>> write truthfully?
>
>In the same manner that the seeing can do things that are impossible for
>the blind.
You are funny.
Get help.
Mark K. Bilbo
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>>
>> In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>>
>> Better let the LORD know
>
> The LORD remains omniscient.
>
>> you're a flop...
>
> Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
Not without dinner a movie first!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:30:52 -0500, in alt.atheism
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> <439F2F7C...@heartmdphd.com>:
> >David Jensen wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:38:45 -0500, in alt.atheism
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> >> <439EDCF5...@heartmdphd.com>:
> >> >"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> >> > David Jensen wrote:
> >> >> > > Why is this nonsense on alt.atheism?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Many who have expressed an interest in this thread are also regulars at alt.atheism.
> >> >>
> >> >> Lying for jeebus again.
> >> >
> >> >It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully while it appears to
> >> >be your choice to remain a case in point.
> >>
> >> How can you continue to write truthfully when you have never started to
> >> write truthfully?
> >
> >In the same manner that the seeing can do things that are impossible for
> >the blind.
>
> You are funny.
>
> Get help.
The LORD gives me all the help I need.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <439EA2F4...@heartmdphd.com>:
>
> >"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>
> [. . .]
>
>
> >(If that were true, my posts would have no typographical errors)
>
> And no logical or factual errors. QED.
"We all fall short of the LORD's glory because only He is infallible."
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> > wbarwell wrote:
> > >
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > >
> > > > wbarwell wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > >> **********
> > > >> >
> > > >> > That may have been your intent but we were writing about **your**
> > > >> > free will.
> > > >>
> > > >> If there is a god, and he created all, and he is as claimed
> > > >> omniscient, free will cannot exist.
> > > >
> > > > And yet, GOD is the omniscient and omnipotent Creator of all.
> > >
> > > Logic rules out a god who is creator and omniscient and free will.
> >
> > Thankfully, truth trumps logic. Indeed, those with discerning hearts
> > are masters of logic.
>
> Liar.
It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.
Bryan
> "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>
>>In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>><and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>>
>>Better let the LORD know
>
>
> The LORD remains omniscient.
>
>
>>you're a flop...
>
>
> Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
>
The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you
the more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they
still are discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway,
someday the Holy Spirit will finally come alive in them.
Peace brother.
It's amazing to see your resolve, in the face of so many, you still
remain steadfast, I could use a dozen of you on my Evangelism team my
friend.
Mark K. Bilbo
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
>> "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>>
>>>In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>><and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>>>
>>>Better let the LORD know
>>
>>
>> The LORD remains omniscient.
>>
>>
>>>you're a flop...
>>
>>
>> Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
>>
>>
> The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you the
> more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they still are
> discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway, someday the Holy
> Spirit will finally come alive in them.
>
> Peace brother.
>
> It's amazing to see your resolve, in the face of so many, you still remain
> steadfast, I could use a dozen of you on my Evangelism team my friend.
(Apparently, OCD has become holy)
Bryan
> In <QhOnf.8675$Kf4....@fe08.lga>, Bryan <cybe...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>>><and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>>>>
>>>>Better let the LORD know
>>>
>>>
>>>The LORD remains omniscient.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>you're a flop...
>>>
>>>
>>>Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you the
>>more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they still are
>>discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway, someday the Holy
>>Spirit will finally come alive in them.
>>
>>Peace brother.
>>
>>It's amazing to see your resolve, in the face of so many, you still remain
>>steadfast, I could use a dozen of you on my Evangelism team my friend.
>
>
> (Apparently, OCD has become holy)
>
I highly doubt Andrew has OCD. I highly doubt you are qualified to
diagnose ANYONE with OCD in the first place.
dr_ernie...@yahoo.ca
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> In <439F2F7A...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> > "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> >>
> >> In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
> >>
> >> Better let the LORD know
> >
> > The LORD remains omniscient.
> >
> >> you're a flop...
> >
> > Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
>
> Not without dinner a movie first!
LOL!!!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:43:15 -0500, Bryan <cybe...@optonline.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >
> >> "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> >>
> >>>In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >>><and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
> >>>
> >>>Better let the LORD know
> >>
> >>
> >> The LORD remains omniscient.
> >>
> >>
> >>>you're a flop...
> >>
> >>
> >> Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
> >>
> >
> >The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you
> >the more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they
> >still are discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway,
> >someday the Holy Spirit will finally come alive in them.
> >
> >Peace brother.
> >
> >It's amazing to see your resolve, in the face of so many, you still
> >remain steadfast, I could use a dozen of you on my Evangelism team my
> >friend.
>
That would depend on whether Bryan is called to use the scientific
method of proving things.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> > In <439F2F7A...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
> > >>
> > >> Better let the LORD know
> > >
> > > The LORD remains omniscient.
> > >
> > >> you're a flop...
> > >
> > > Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
> >
> > Not without dinner a movie first!
>
> LOL!!!
Without the LORD, there can be only despair.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> > "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> >
> >>In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >><and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
> >>
> >>Better let the LORD know
> >
> >
> > The LORD remains omniscient.
> >
> >
> >>you're a flop...
> >
> >
> > Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
> >
>
> The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you
> the more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they
> still are discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway,
> someday the Holy Spirit will finally come alive in them.
Indeed, the light of the Holy Spirit has drawn them irresistably into
this discussion.
> Peace brother.
Thankfully, the LORD has given us His peace and His peace is beyond all
secular understanding.
> It's amazing to see your resolve, in the face of so many, you still
> remain steadfast, I could use a dozen of you on my Evangelism team my
> friend.
The strength of our resolve springs from the hope that we have chosen to
place in the LORD. For this reason, all praises and glory belongs to
the LORD, Whom we love with all by heart, soul, mind and strength :-)
"...those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will
soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will
walk and not be faint." (Isaiah 40:31)
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:439F2F72...@heartmdphd.com...
> > Les Hellawell wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:00:16 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > > <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > <snipped, "the moving finger having writ moves on">
> > >
> > > >The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
> > >
> > > You make my point for me exactly.
> >
> > You seem desperate for points.
>
> incessant snipping, cross-posting, and hollow assertions of your special
> powers.
A discerning heart is not a power just as the LORD's gift of vision is
not a power.
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Les Hellawell
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>Les Hellawell wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:00:16 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snipped, "the moving finger having writ moves on">
>>
>> >The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>>
>> You make my point for me exactly.
>
>You seem desperate for points.
"Seem desparate?"
Why desperate? Why not 'seek enjoyment from' instead?
No I was merey letting you know that you had given me
a clear example of what I was trying to say in my own
feeble way. It came so quickly too :-) You types get very
predictable you know,
We debate for enjoyment and good recreation through contact
with others as well as for enlightenment and increased
understanding. Leastways I do. Some come here merely to
show us that they are happy in their ignorance.
Since the latter two aims are never achieved when debating
with religious cranks like you, who rarely have anything
intelligent to offer the debate, we communicate with you for
recreation and fun. You cannot possible image how how much
laughter we get from people like you. Sadly though you types
do tend to get tedious after a while with your limited repertoire
of stock phrases and assertion that you trot out endlessly.
Mabye your discenment is not as infallible as you thought?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:30:42 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >Les Hellawell wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:00:16 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> <snipped, "the moving finger having writ moves on">
> >>
> >> >The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
> >>
> >> You make my point for me exactly.
> >
> >You seem desperate for points.
>
> "Seem desparate?"
>
> Why desperate?
Without the LORD, there is only desperation.
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Les Hellawell
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>David Jensen wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:38:45 -0500, in alt.atheism
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
>> <439EDCF5...@heartmdphd.com>:
>> >"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> >> > David Jensen wrote:
>> >> > > Why is this nonsense on alt.atheism?
>> >> >
>> >> > Many who have expressed an interest in this thread are also regulars at alt.atheism.
>> >>
>> >> Lying for jeebus again.
>> >
>> >It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully while it appears to
>> >be your choice to remain a case in point.
>>
>> How can you continue to write truthfully when you have never started to
>> write truthfully?
>
>In the same manner that the seeing can do things that are impossible for
>the blind.
Oh, why didn't you tell us you were blind, that makes things a lot
clearer? I do hope it is only the blindness of one who stumbles in
the reals of ignorance and darkness where gods emerge into the
minds of men to suck them back into the dark. You will forever
remain in that darkness wandering in all directions, until you
release your own mind forged manacles and 'god given' given
blinkers that enable your discernment of only that which you
wish to imagine down there in your dark self-imposed prison cell.
Oh if only we could help you stumble into the light. Yes I know
the light hurts at first and knowledge can be confusing but
eventually you will grow to love it and your mind will at last be
free to soar.
Throw off your ignorance my friend, let us help you out into
the light. We make this offer and hope to bring you true joy
and freedom from the dead hand of religion and true happiness
at last. Maybe your stumbling into alt.atheism maybe the
best thing you ever did. We are here out in the light.
Here's a hand to help you, come up and join us on the
good earth don't be afraid there are no demons, gods and
devils, up here they hate the light...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:30:52 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >David Jensen wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:38:45 -0500, in alt.atheism
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> >> <439EDCF5...@heartmdphd.com>:
> >> >"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> >> > David Jensen wrote:
> >> >> > > Why is this nonsense on alt.atheism?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Many who have expressed an interest in this thread are also regulars at alt.atheism.
> >> >>
> >> >> Lying for jeebus again.
> >> >
> >> >It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully while it appears to
> >> >be your choice to remain a case in point.
> >>
> >> How can you continue to write truthfully when you have never started to
> >> write truthfully?
> >
> >In the same manner that the seeing can do things that are impossible for
> >the blind.
>
> Oh, why didn't you tell us you were blind, that makes things a lot
> clearer?
I am not blind. Sorry the truth makes things less clear for you.
Null hypothesis:
"The LORD does not exist."
Testing the null hypothesis:
Google search for any sightings or other evidence for the LORD reveals a
number of eyewitness accounts including the following:
Conclusion:
Reject the null hypothesis.
"The LORD does exist."
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Fred Stone
> Les Hellawell wrote:
>
>> It is not
>> people like you who bring peace to the world, quite the reverse.
>
> The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform. The truth is unsettling
> for the untruthful.
>
That is why we bother you so much.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I can say one thing about these plans of ours: They are not being decided
by the typewriter strategists who expound their views in the press or on
the radio." - FDR
Fred Stone
> Fred Stone wrote:
>>
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
>> news:439EDFB...@heartmdphd.com:
>>
>> > Fred Stone wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
>> >> news:439EB78F...@heartmdphd.com:
>> >>
>> >> > Fred Stone wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
>> >> >> news:439DBCFB...@heartmdphd.com:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Fred Stone wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> news:439D6B84...@heartmdphd.com:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Les Hellawell wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:11:27 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung,
>> >> >> >> >> MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >Don Kirkman wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung,
>> >> >> >> >> >> MD/PhD wrote in article
>> >> >> >> >> >> <439C73C4...@heartmdphd.com>:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> [. . .]
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> For that matter, there isn't anything in the NT
text
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> establishing a celebration of the birth of the
Christ.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >We do it out of our love for Him.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> A tradition that began in the time of the Emperor
>> >> >> >> >> >> Constantine.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Without love for Christ, it would not have been the
>> >> >> >> >> >long-standing tradition that it has become.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> The problem of course is that the modern 'Christmas' has
>> >> >> >> >> little to do with Christianity.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Not for the discerning.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Discernment: A faculty given to believers so that they don't
>> >> >> >> have to use their brains.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Sour grapes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Projection.
>> >> >
>> >> > It remains your choice to covet.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Covet what? Your shallow fantasies? No thanks. I'll take reality,
>> >> warts and all.
>
> <snip>
>
>> > That which you are "sour graping."
>>
>> Ah, another lying Christer, but that's redundant.
>
> It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully
>
When do you plan to start?
JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort
The fact that he insists on continuing to post to alt.atheism, even
though every single regular alt.atheism poster has both politely and
impolitely made abundantly clear to him that he's off-topic and
unwelcome in a newsgroup where non-theists would like to be able to
discuss non-theist items without nutcase asshole theists
proselytizating their crap, indicates that he is compulsivly obssessive
about his little jihad.
Mark K. Bilbo
> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>
>> In <QhOnf.8675$Kf4....@fe08.lga>, Bryan <cybe...@optonline.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>>>><and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>>>>>
>>>>>Better let the LORD know
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The LORD remains omniscient.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>you're a flop...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you
>>>the more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they
>>>still are discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway,
>>>someday the Holy Spirit will finally come alive in them.
>>>
>>>Peace brother.
>>>
>>>It's amazing to see your resolve, in the face of so many, you still
>>>remain steadfast, I could use a dozen of you on my Evangelism team my
>>>friend.
>>
>>
>> (Apparently, OCD has become holy)
>>
> I highly doubt Andrew has OCD. I highly doubt you are qualified to
> diagnose ANYONE with OCD in the first place.
Oh by the way, your little message about how good it is he's being
"attacked" was *seriously pathetic.
I hope you get a life someday!
Mark K. Bilbo
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> dr_ernie...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>
>> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> > In <439F2F7A...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> > <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> > >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>> > >>
>> > >> Better let the LORD know
>> > >
>> > > The LORD remains omniscient.
>> > >
>> > >> you're a flop...
>> > >
>> > > Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
>> >
>> > Not without dinner a movie first!
>>
>> LOL!!!
>
> Without the LORD, there can be only despair.
Then why don't I feel despair? I even survived Katrina and don't feel
"despair."
Whaddya make of that Skippy?
JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort
> The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you
> the more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they
> still are discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway,
> someday the Holy Spirit will finally come alive in them.
Why are so many theists like you so insistently stupid? Telling Andrew
his proselytizing is off-topic and unwelcome in alt.atheism is not
"discussing the Lord." Pointing out that Andrew is being rude by
arrogantly posting and reposting his unsupported wishful thinking where
he knows FOR A FACT not a single person wants to hear it is not
"discussing the Lord."
If I decided to repeatedly and compulsively spew some sort of unwelcome
concepts at you, say racism or paedophila, do you think that "maybe
somehow, someway, someday" the desire to kill people outside your race
or rape children will finally come alive in you? Heck, both of those
attitudes have biblical approval; maybe you should get started. You
wouldn't want to anger "the Lord."
> Peace brother.
Fuck off, asshole.
> It's amazing to see your resolve, in the face of so many, you still
> remain steadfast, I could use a dozen of you on my Evangelism team my
> friend.
Great. Do it elsewhere.
JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" wrote:
> >
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > wbarwell wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > wbarwell wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > >> **********
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > That may have been your intent but we were writing about **your**
> > > > >> > free will.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If there is a god, and he created all, and he is as claimed
> > > > >> omniscient, free will cannot exist.
> > > > >
> > > > > And yet, GOD is the omniscient and omnipotent Creator of all.
> > > >
> > > > Logic rules out a god who is creator and omniscient and free will.
> > >
> > > Thankfully, truth trumps logic. Indeed, those with discerning hearts
> > > are masters of logic.
> >
> > Liar.
>
> It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.
Repeating a lie doesn't make it true. It does add another entry to
your list of sins, though.
Bryan
>
>>Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>
>>>In <QhOnf.8675$Kf4....@fe08.lga>, Bryan <cybe...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you the
>>>>more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they still are
>>>>discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway, someday the Holy
>>>>Spirit will finally come alive in them.
>>>>
>>>>Peace brother.
>>>>
>>>>It's amazing to see your resolve, in the face of so many, you still remain
>>>>steadfast, I could use a dozen of you on my Evangelism team my friend.
>>>
>>>(Apparently, OCD has become holy)
>>>
>>
>>I highly doubt Andrew has OCD. I highly doubt you are qualified to
>>diagnose ANYONE with OCD in the first place.
>
>
> The fact that he insists on continuing to post to alt.atheism, even
> though every single regular alt.atheism poster has both politely and
> impolitely made abundantly clear to him that he's off-topic
The post is clearly marked off topic, the fact that you continue to bait
him and insult him is proof that you are as OCD as you claim him to be,
since you have clear freedom of choice to avoid his posts if you so
desire, but the fact that you don't proves that you are either
frightened by what Andrew has to say, or secretly want to learn more
about the Christ.
Bryan
I have one thanks, and it is given daily in service to The Lord Jesus
Christ.
Robibnikoff
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-a...@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:vrCdnfNFop_...@megapath.net...
> In <439F2F7A...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
>> "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>>>
>>> In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>>>
>>> Better let the LORD know
>>
>> The LORD remains omniscient.
>>
>>> you're a flop...
>>
>> Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
>
<Chortle!> ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Bryan
> Bryan wrote:
>
>>The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you
>>the more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they
>>still are discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway,
>>someday the Holy Spirit will finally come alive in them.
>
>
> Why are so many theists like you so insistently stupid?
I'm not stupid, I'm sorry to have offended you.
> Telling Andrew
> his proselytizing is off-topic and unwelcome in alt.atheism is not
> "discussing the Lord."
Telling him so in a thread clearly marked as Off Topic is.
> Pointing out that Andrew is being rude by
> arrogantly posting and reposting his unsupported wishful thinking where
> he knows FOR A FACT not a single person wants to hear it is not
> "discussing the Lord."
You can tell Andrew not to proselytize but it means nothing since the
thread is clearly marked as OT. And you sir are not qualified to say
what Andrew "knows for a fact" at all.
>
> If I decided to repeatedly and compulsively spew some sort of unwelcome
> concepts at you, say racism or paedophila, do you think that "maybe
> somehow, someway, someday" the desire to kill people outside your race
> or rape children will finally come alive in you?
Your straw man argument is quite weak and transparent.
> Heck, both of those
> attitudes have biblical approval; maybe you should get started. You
> wouldn't want to anger "the Lord."
>
The Truth is that what you say is not so.
>
>>Peace brother.
>
>
> Fuck off, asshole.
>
sorry to have upset you so.
>
>>It's amazing to see your resolve, in the face of so many, you still
>>remain steadfast, I could use a dozen of you on my Evangelism team my
>>friend.
>
>
> Great. Do it elsewhere.
Here is just fine, in fact here is where it is needed most.
>
Robibnikoff
"Bryan" <cybe...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:QhOnf.8675$Kf4....@fe08.lga...
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
>> "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>>
>>>In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>><and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>>>
>>>Better let the LORD know
>>
>>
>> The LORD remains omniscient.
>>
>>
>>>you're a flop...
>>
>>
>> Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
>>
>
> The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you the
> more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they still are
> discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway, someday the Holy
> Spirit will finally come alive in them.
Yeah, whatever you say, Skippy <hoo boy, what a loon>
Robibnikoff
> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
snip
>>
>> (Apparently, OCD has become holy)
>>
> I highly doubt Andrew has OCD. I highly doubt you are qualified to
> diagnose ANYONE with OCD in the first place.
So?
Robibnikoff
snip
> I have one thanks, and it is given daily in service to The Lord Jesus
> Christ.
Don't work for a living, huh?
Robibnikoff
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-a...@org.webmaster> wrote in message
> In <439FD886...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
>> dr_ernie...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>> > In <439F2F7A...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>> > <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>> > >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Better let the LORD know
>>> > >
>>> > > The LORD remains omniscient.
>>> > >
>>> > >> you're a flop...
>>> > >
>>> > > Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
>>> >
>>> > Not without dinner a movie first!
>>>
>>> LOL!!!
>>
>> Without the LORD, there can be only despair.
>
> Then why don't I feel despair? I even survived Katrina and don't feel
> "despair."
>
> Whaddya make of that Skippy?
Funny, but I've never had "the lord" and I don't feel despair either.
However, my theist sis-in-laws are often miserable. Go figure.
Mark K. Bilbo
Necrophilia gives me the creeps...
Les Hellawell
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>Les Hellawell wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:30:42 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Les Hellawell wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:00:16 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> <snipped, "the moving finger having writ moves on">
>> >>
>> >> >The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>> >>
>> >> You make my point for me exactly.
>> >
>> >You seem desperate for points.
>>
>> "Seem desparate?"
>>
>> Why desperate?
<explanation why I was not snipped>
>
>Without the LORD, there is only desperation.
How wrong you are.
Les Hellawell
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>Conclusion:
>
>Reject the null hypothesis.
Never accepted it since I do not even know what you
mean by "The Lord". You might mean "The Lord of Mann"
for all I know.
>"The LORD does exist."
Nor that one either.
Again it depends what you mean by "The Lord" surely?
Anyway this is your claim, without even knowing what you
mean and having no evidence of it upon which to form
even a belief I can form no opinion of any kind about it. Thus
far we have had only assertions from you and as I am sure you
know an assertion is worthless without supporting evidence
of any kind.
Fred Stone
> Null hypothesis:
>
> "The LORD does not exist."
>
> Testing the null hypothesis:
>
> Google search for any sightings or other evidence for the LORD reveals
> a number of eyewitness accounts including the following:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8hdbs
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8xvlh
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7m3fu
>
> http://tinyurl.com/dxwvy
>
> Conclusion:
>
Conclusion: Some people will believe anything.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I either want less corruption, or more chances to participate."
- Ashleigh Brilliant -
Les Hellawell
>On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:32:11 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
><and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
>>Mephisto wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:43:15 -0500, Bryan <cybe...@optonline.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>> >>><and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Better let the LORD know
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> The LORD remains omniscient.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>you're a flop...
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you
>>> >the more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they
>>> >still are discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway,
>>> >someday the Holy Spirit will finally come alive in them.
>>> >
>>> >Peace brother.
>>> >
>>> >It's amazing to see your resolve, in the face of so many, you still
>>> >remain steadfast, I could use a dozen of you on my Evangelism team my
>>> >friend.
>>>
>>> Do you believe in leprechauns too?
>>
>>That would depend on whether Bryan is called to use the scientific
>>method of proving things.
>
>I didn't ask you. You've already said that you do believe in them. I
>was interested in Bryan's opinion on the matter.
>
>Incidentally, your method had nothing at all to do with scientific
>method. It was based on the assumption that if you could find evidence
>for it on the internet then it must be true. That is not how science
>works. Only verifiable, repeatable evidence based on real observations
>contributes to scientific knowledge. Nothing is accepted without
>rigorous peer-review and challenging either intellectually or in the
>lab.
>
>I'm surprised that an MD would not know that? Or have you never looked
>into the world of medical research?
It matter not how intelligent or knowledgable a person is, when it
comes to religion all that intelligence and knowledge is thrown out of
the window, and they all become the same dumb sheep bleating the
same beliefs and assertion in a kind of self-brainwashed catatonic
state. They clearly follow the dictum that belief trumps evidence
every time. Everything is as nothing when compared with their blind
faith. Thus the genius becomes the fool and the fool becomes the
wise man.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > >
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > news:439EDFB...@heartmdphd.com:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ah, another lying Christer, but that's redundant.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ignorance is strength, eh?
> > > >
> > > > No.
> > >
> > > Then stop pretending
> >
> > Pretending is not my style.
>
> Ah.
Such is the infinite strength available to those who reside in the
truth.
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat today (12/15/05) from 6 to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > >
> > > "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
> > > news:1134505413....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" wrote:
> > > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > vision of the seeing.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "You don't covet "god's love"? God doesn't covet your love?"
> > > >
> > > > > > > > You're suggesting it's somehow wrong for a blind person to want to
> > > see?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It remains a sin to covet.
> > > >
> > > > "You don't covet "god's love"? God doesn't covet your love?"
> > > >
> > > > > > A non responsive lie.
> > > > >
> > > > > Truth remains simple.
> > > >
> > > > "You don't covet "god's love"? God doesn't covet your love?"
> > > >
> > > > Which certainly explains your sleazy insistance upon ignoring questions
> > > > that expose your transparent lies. Or did you have a valid reason for
> > > > snipping the rest of my post without notation?
> > >
> > > If you search Google groups, you'll see that OCD Chung has a long history of
> > > purposeful snipping.
> >
> > It remains my choice to ignore what is largely untruthful which includes
> > many of your posts.
>
> That's such an effective tactic
It is. All praises belong to the LORD, Whom I love with all my being
and Who guides me.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> > The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you
> > the more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they
> > still are discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway,
> > someday the Holy Spirit will finally come alive in them.
>
> Why are so many theists like you so insistently stupid?
"Those who are secure in the truth have also the strength to resist the
temptation of descending into namecalling."
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
As if an atheist is able to recognize sin.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> In <439FD886...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> > dr_ernie...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>
> >> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> >> > In <439F2F7A...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >> > <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >> > >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Better let the LORD know
> >> > >
> >> > > The LORD remains omniscient.
> >> > >
> >> > >> you're a flop...
> >> > >
> >> > > Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
> >> >
> >> > Not without dinner a movie first!
> >>
> >> LOL!!!
> >
> > Without the LORD, there can be only despair.
>
> Then why don't I feel despair?
Denial.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Bryan has eternal life for he drinks the living water that comes from
the LORD, Whom we love with all of our hearts, minds, souls, and
strengths :-))
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> > Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> > > In <QhOnf.8675$Kf4....@fe08.lga>, Bryan <cybe...@optonline.net> wrote:
> > >>The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you the
> > >>more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they still are
> > >>discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway, someday the Holy
> > >>Spirit will finally come alive in them.
> > >>
> > >>Peace brother.
> > >>
> > >>It's amazing to see your resolve, in the face of so many, you still remain
> > >>steadfast, I could use a dozen of you on my Evangelism team my friend.
> > >
> > > (Apparently, OCD has become holy)
> > >
> > I highly doubt Andrew has OCD. I highly doubt you are qualified to
> > diagnose ANYONE with OCD in the first place.
>
> though every single regular alt.atheism poster has both politely and
> unwelcome in a newsgroup where non-theists would like to be able to
> discuss non-theist items without nutcase asshole theists
> proselytizating their crap, indicates that he is compulsivly obssessive
> about his little jihad.
Fact not in evidence.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> >
> >
> > "The LORD does not exist."
> >
> > Testing the null hypothesis:
> >
> > Google search for any sightings or other evidence for the LORD reveals a
> > number of eyewitness accounts including the following:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/8hdbs
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/8xvlh
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/7m3fu
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/dxwvy
> >
> > Conclusion:
> >
> >
> > "The LORD does exist."
>
> Wow, that works for so many things: ghosts, Elvis, leprechauns, the
> Loch Ness monster, bigfoot, fairies.
And does not work for infinitely more things.
> Unfortunately, people make an
> active effort to be mistaken;
There is no such thing as either unfortunately or fortunately:
Proverbs 16:33
> that's why "eyewitness accounts" are
> unreliable.
They remain admissible in a court of law.
> That's why science wants objective, verifiable evidence.
> Which you, as a doctor, should know.
Actually, what scientist wants are reproducible and predictable
observations.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:32:26 -0500, in alt.atheism
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> <439FD89A...@heartmdphd.com>:
> >"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> >>
> >> In <hMKnf.2593$n1....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "Jim-Poncin"
> >> <jphk...@jkjhjkhkj.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > "Budd Cochran" <mr-...@preciscom.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:1134512190.9...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> Prove He doesn't exist.
> >> >
> >> > Poor logic.
> >> > It's up to the person saying something exists, to prove that it exists.
> >> > Not the other way around. There's an infinite number of things that DON'T
> >> > exist.
> >> >
> >> > However, it's accepted common legal practice that if a person is missing
> >> > for 7 years, he's declared dead. There's never been any proof that god
> >> > existed, but on the basis of the 7 year standard, we have to assume he's
> >> > gone, if he ever existed.
> >> >
> >> >> Btw, Evolution has too many gaps and unanswered questions, and is too
> >> >> illogical, so it doesn't qualify as proof.
> >> >>
> >> >> Budd
> >> >
> >> > Budd, the proof that the evolutionary process exists is very strong. Like
> >> > anything else, there are a few gaps and some questions.
> >> >
> >> > Evolution theory and scientific research has been done just like the
> >> > medical and pharmacological sciences that you want when you're sick or
> >> > injured.
> >> >
> >> > Do you reject modern science when your life depends on it?
> >> >
> >> > Do you get vaccinations? Do you have your children get vaccinations?
> >> >
> >> > Will you get a bird flu vaccination if and when the virus mutates and
> >> > EVOLVES into a lethal virus?
> >> >
> >> > That's a test of honesty.
> >>
> >> Damn medical community should stop pushing evilution on people! No more
> >> vacines!
> >
> >Vaccines are developed through the application of principles of
> >immunology, genetics, and immunogenetics. Thankfully, none of these
> >principles are built on the theory of evolution.
>
> With that misunderstanding of science, how did you ever get into medical
> school.
With knowledge and wisdom from the LORD, Whom I love with all my being
and Who is the Source of all knowledge and wisdom:
http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/Healer.asp
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> >>>>Les Hellawell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>It is not
> >>>>>people like you who bring peace to the world, quite the reverse.
> >>>>
> >>>>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform. The truth is unsettling
> >>>>for the untruthful.
> >>>
> >>>That is why we bother you so much.
> >>
> >>No that is why you are so bothered by Andrew. If you believed he wasn't
> >>telling the truth you would simply killfile him and ignore what he has
> >>to say, but instead you seem compelled to read and comment on his every
> >>word.
> >
> > For some of us, it's a matter of sport.
> >
> then you are all poor sportsmen.
"A malicious man disguises himself with his lips, but in his heart he
harbors deceit. Though his speech is charming, do not believe him, for
seven abominations fill his heart. His malice may be concealed by
deception, but his wickedness will be exposed in the assembly. If a man
digs a pit, he will fall into it; if a man rolls a stone, it will roll
back on him." (Proverbs 26:24-27)
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Fred Stone wrote:
> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> > news:439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com:
> >>Les Hellawell wrote:
> >>>It is not
> >>>people like you who bring peace to the world, quite the reverse.
> >>
> >>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform. The truth is unsettling
> >>for the untruthful.
> >
> > That is why we bother you so much.
> >
> No that is why you are so bothered by Andrew. If you believed he wasn't
> telling the truth you would simply killfile him and ignore what he has
> to say, but instead you seem compelled to read and comment on his every
> word.
Words written with the LORD's guidance so all praises belong to Him,
Whom we love with all of our hearts, minds, souls, and strengths :-))
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:32:21 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >Bryan wrote:
> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> > "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> >> >><and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > The LORD remains omniscient.
> >> >
> >> >>you're a flop...
> >> >
> >> > Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
> >>
> >> the more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they
> >> still are discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway,
> >> someday the Holy Spirit will finally come alive in them.
> >
> >this discussion.
>
> Actually, it was boredom
That is not what I discern.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> news:439F0C2B...@heartmdphd.com:
> > Bryan wrote:
> >> Grandpa Chuck wrote:
> >> > Will you people who are not regular members of ASD please refrain
> from
> >> > cross-posting to it? Thank you.
> >> >
> >> > I started this thread and then Chung, who most of us in ASD have in
> >> > our killfiles, jumped in with his usual cross-posting bullshit.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:34:40 -0800, "GaryG"
> <sorryn...@NOSPAMX.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOC...@raincity.com> wrote in message
> >> >
> >> since the title clearly claims that the thread is Off Topic anyone is
> >> free to cross post it wherever they wish. if you don't like it, then
> >> stop reading it.
> >
> > Though the untruthful hate the truth, they still find themselves
> > irresistably drawn to Him.
>
> That must be why you're drawn to post in alt.atheism.
No.
The LORD continues to guide me in everything I say, do, and write.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:32:11 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >Mephisto wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >> >>><and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Better let the LORD know
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> The LORD remains omniscient.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>you're a flop...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you
> >> >the more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they
> >> >still are discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway,
> >> >someday the Holy Spirit will finally come alive in them.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >It's amazing to see your resolve, in the face of so many, you still
> >> >remain steadfast, I could use a dozen of you on my Evangelism team my
> >> >friend.
> >>
> >
> >That would depend on whether Bryan is called to use the scientific
> >method of proving things.
>
> I didn't ask you.
I made no claim that you did.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> In <SDVnf.8689$Kf4....@fe08.lga>, Bryan <cybe...@optonline.net> wrote:
<snip>
> >>
> > I have one thanks, and it is given daily in service to The Lord Jesus
> > Christ.
>
> Necrophilia gives me the creeps...
Then you should be thankful that the LORD is risen and lives :-))
Fred Stone
> Fred Stone wrote:
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
>> news:439F0C2B...@heartmdphd.com:
>> > Bryan wrote:
>> >> Grandpa Chuck wrote:
>> >> > Will you people who are not regular members of ASD please
>> >> > refrain
>> from
>> >> > cross-posting to it? Thank you.
>> >> >
>> >> > I started this thread and then Chung, who most of us in ASD have
>> >> > in our killfiles, jumped in with his usual cross-posting
>> >> > bullshit.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:34:40 -0800, "GaryG"
>> <sorryn...@NOSPAMX.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOC...@raincity.com> wrote in message
>> >> >
>> >> since the title clearly claims that the thread is Off Topic anyone
>> >> is free to cross post it wherever they wish. if you don't like it,
>> >> then stop reading it.
>> >
>> > Though the untruthful hate the truth, they still find themselves
>> > irresistably drawn to Him.
>>
>> That must be why you're drawn to post in alt.atheism.
>
> No.
>
Yes. You clearly hate the truth and are drawn to post your untruths in
alt.atheism.
> The LORD continues to guide me in everything I say, do, and write.
>
It must be nice to be able to take the LORD's name in vain to justify
your arrogant falsehoods.
David Jensen
Practicing medicine using prescriptions from the Bible is malpractice.
JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> >
> > In <439FD886...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >
> > > dr_ernie...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> > >> > In <439F2F7A...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > >> > <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > >> > >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Better let the LORD know
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The LORD remains omniscient.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> you're a flop...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
> > >> >
> > >> > Not without dinner a movie first!
> > >>
> > >> LOL!!!
> > >
> > > Without the LORD, there can be only despair.
> >
> > Then why don't I feel despair?
>
> Denial.
Liar. He didn't say he denies his despair, he asked why he doesn't
feel despair, since you assert without evidence "Without the LORD,
Les Hellawell
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" wrote:
>>
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> > "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> > > > "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" wrote:
>> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> > > > > > Fred Stone wrote:
>> > > > > > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
>> > > > > > > news:439EDFB...@heartmdphd.com:
>> > > > > > > > That which you are "sour graping."
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Ah, another lying Christer, but that's redundant.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Ignorance is strength, eh?
>> > > >
>> > > > No.
>> > >
>> > > Then stop pretending
>> >
>> > Pretending is not my style.
>>
>> Ah.
>
>Such is the infinite strength available to those who reside in the
>truth.
Thank you for the compliment, but really we are not always right.
Yes we are clearly right about the illogicality of religion but I
suspect, like me we are often wrong about other things.
Glad you have realised we were right and truthful all along
jes...@phantomemail.com
> JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort wrote:
>
> >
> >>The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you
> >>the more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they
> >>still are discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway,
> >>someday the Holy Spirit will finally come alive in them.
> >
>
I wasn't going to reply, since you were kind enough to not re-add
alt.atheism; thank you for that. However, despite your insistence to
the contrary, nobody in alt.atheism is discussing "the lord." Nobody
in alt.atheism is interested in your mythology. To insist otherwise,
particularly in light of how clearly every single poster from
alt.atheism has made their position, is stupid. Please try to avoid
letting your theism make you stupid.
> > Telling Andrew
> > his proselytizing is off-topic and unwelcome in alt.atheism is not
> > "discussing the Lord."
>
> Telling him so in a thread clearly marked as Off Topic is.
No, still not; doesn't matter if the thread is marked OT, it only
matters that the topic of the thread is unwelcome in alt.atheism. The
subject under discussion at that point is the bad manners of the person
insisting on repeatedly crossposting their theistic nonsense where it
is unwelcome; we already know it's off topic.
> > Pointing out that Andrew is being rude by
> > arrogantly posting and reposting his unsupported wishful thinking where
> > he knows FOR A FACT not a single person wants to hear it is not
> > "discussing the Lord."
>
> You can tell Andrew not to proselytize but it means nothing since the
> thread is clearly marked as OT.
You are wrong, I suspect deliberately so. Proselytizing is unwelcome
in alt.atheism; it doesn't matter that it's also off topic, because the
group wasn't formed for proselytizing, and the members of the group
don't want unsupported theistic nonsense pushed on them. There are all
sorts of topics which ARE welcome, and some of them happen to be
off-topic to the generally concern of alt.atheism. Off topic and
unwelcome are not always the same thing.
> And you sir are not qualified to say what Andrew "knows for a fact" at all.
In fact, I am qualified, unless you can point out anyone in alt.atheism
who has indicated interest.
> > If I decided to repeatedly and compulsively spew some sort of unwelcome
> > concepts at you, say racism or paedophila, do you think that "maybe
> > somehow, someway, someday" the desire to kill people outside your race
> > or rape children will finally come alive in you?
>
> Your straw man argument is quite weak and transparent.
Amusing, in that I'm merely using an analogy of your argument.
Apparently, when I do it, it's a strawman, but when you do it, it's
legitimate debate.
> > Heck, both of those
> > attitudes have biblical approval; maybe you should get started. You
> > wouldn't want to anger "the Lord."
>
> The Truth is that what you say is not so.
Really? You sure about that?
Numbers 31:17-18
Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every
woman that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with
him, keep alive for yourselves.
1 Samuel 15:2-3
Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly
destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and
woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
> >>Peace brother.
> >
> > Fuck off, asshole.
>
> sorry to have upset you so.
Then don't be an asshole.
> >>It's amazing to see your resolve, in the face of so many, you still
> >>remain steadfast, I could use a dozen of you on my Evangelism team my
> >>friend.
> >
> > Great. Do it elsewhere.
>
> Here is just fine, in fact here is where it is needed most.
When you say "here," what do you mean, exactly?
jes...@phantomemail.com
> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >>Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >>>>>><and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Better let the LORD know
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The LORD remains omniscient.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>you're a flop...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>the more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they
> >>>>still are discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway,
> >>>>someday the Holy Spirit will finally come alive in them.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>It's amazing to see your resolve, in the face of so many, you still
> >>>>remain steadfast, I could use a dozen of you on my Evangelism team my
> >>>>friend.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>I highly doubt Andrew has OCD. I highly doubt you are qualified to
> >>diagnose ANYONE with OCD in the first place.
> >
> >
> > "attacked" was *seriously pathetic.
> >
> > I hope you get a life someday!
> >
> Christ.
That's nice. Did you happen to read what he said about bothering
people with your nonsense? It was important enough to be repeated a
few times.
Matthew 10:14
And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye
depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
Mark K. Bilbo
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> Mephisto wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:32:21 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>> >Bryan wrote:
>> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> >> > "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>> >> >>In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> >> >><and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Better let the LORD know
>> >> >
>> >> > The LORD remains omniscient.
>> >> >
>> >> >>you're a flop...
>> >> >
>> >> > Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
>> >>
>> >> The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule
>> >> you the more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad
>> >> they still are discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow,
>> >> someway, someday the Holy Spirit will finally come alive in them.
>> >
>> >Indeed, the light of the Holy Spirit has drawn them irresistably into
>> >this discussion.
>>
>> Actually, it was boredom
>
> That is not what I discern.
That's what happens when you squeeze your eyes closed and jam your fingers
in your ears...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We need everything you've got"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2726554C
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
Mark K. Bilbo
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what all the other religions said too...
Mark K. Bilbo
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>> In <SDVnf.8689$Kf4....@fe08.lga>, Bryan <cybe...@optonline.net>
>> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>> >>
>> > I have one thanks, and it is given daily in service to The Lord Jesus
>> > Christ.
>>
>> Necrophilia gives me the creeps...
>
> Then you should be thankful that the LORD is risen and lives :-))
And you have what evidence for that?
(Or are ya gonna disearn something?)
Mark K. Bilbo
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>>
>> In <439FD886...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>
>> > dr_ernie...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> >> > In <439F2F7A...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> >> > <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> >> > >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Better let the LORD know
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The LORD remains omniscient.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> you're a flop...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
>> >> >
>> >> > Not without dinner a movie first!
>> >>
>> >> LOL!!!
>> >
>> > Without the LORD, there can be only despair.
>>
>> Then why don't I feel despair?
>
> Denial.
Back atcha!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:00:07 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >Mephisto wrote:
> >> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:32:21 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >> >Bryan wrote:
> >> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> >> > "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> >> >> >>In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >> >> >><and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Better let the LORD know
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The LORD remains omniscient.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>you're a flop...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
> >> >>
> >> >> The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule you
> >> >> the more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad they
> >> >> still are discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow, someway,
> >> >> someday the Holy Spirit will finally come alive in them.
> >> >
> >> >Indeed, the light of the Holy Spirit has drawn them irresistably into
> >> >this discussion.
> >>
> >> Actually, it was boredom
> >
> >That is not what I discern.
>
You remind me of the blind man would evaluate the vision of the seeing.
> Surely you don't regard yourself as being
> omniscient?
Correct.
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/22/05):
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:
In Christ's love always,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Your response indicates that you have received Bryan and have read his
words.
Mark K. Bilbo
<meph...@go.away> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:00:07 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
>>Mephisto wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:32:21 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>> >Bryan wrote:
>>> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>> >> > "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>>> >> >>In <439EFE20...@heartmdphd.com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>> >> >><and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>Better let the LORD know
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The LORD remains omniscient.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>you're a flop...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.
>>> >>
>>> >> The best part Andrew is that the more they attack you and ridicule
>>> >> you the more they prove you are not a flop, because for good or bad
>>> >> they still are discussing the Lord with you and maybe somehow,
>>> >> someway, someday the Holy Spirit will finally come alive in them.
>>> >
>>> >Indeed, the light of the Holy Spirit has drawn them irresistably into
>>> >this discussion.
>>>
>>> Actually, it was boredom
>>
>>That is not what I discern.
>
> Then you are wrong. Surely you don't regard yourself as being omniscient?
Sure he is! He's with *Jesus!