Re: The CORRECT Definition of 'Scientologist'
Sir Frederick
Religions, like languages, are arbitrary.
The main 'truths' are in the pragmatic behavioral
and neurological effects.
Study of neuroscience is recommended.
Also, see :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotheology
and see :
Jude Alexander
"Consider this officer lacking in the essential qualities of judgement,
leadership and cooperation. He acts without forethought as to probable
results... Not considered qualified for command or promotion at this time.
Recommend duty on a large vessel where he can be properly supervised." - US
Navy Fitness Report Reprimanding Lt. L. Ron Hubbard, 1943
"Better than 90 percent of what my father has written about himself is
untrue." - Ron deWolf, son of L. Ron Hubbard
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"They smell of all the baths they didn't take. The trouble with China is,
there are too many chinks here." - L. Ron Hubbard's diary, 1928. (via Jon
Atack, A PIECE OF BLUE SKY: SCIENTOLOGY, DIANETICS AND L. RON HUBBARD
EXPOSED. Lyle Stuart/Carol Publishing Group 1990)
"Let's sell these people a piece of blue sky." - L. Ron Hubbard to an
associate in 1950, soon after the opening of the Hubbard Dianetic Research
Foundation. (via Jon Atack, A PIECE OF BLUE SKY: SCIENTOLOGY, DIANETICS AND
L. RON HUBBARD EXPOSED, Lyle Stuart/Carol Publishing Group. 1990)
"Dianetics is a science; as such, it has no opinion about religion, for
sciences are based on natural laws, not on opinions." - L. Ron Hubbard,
"Dianetic Auditor's Bulletin", October 1950
"Benzedrine often helps a case run." - L. Ron Hubbard, "The Intensive
Processing Procedure," 1950 ["Run a case" = administer Dianetics or
Scientology procedures to someone]
"This volume probably contains more promises and less evidence per page
than has any publication since the invention of printing." - Review of
"Dianetics", Scientific American, 1951
"You are only three or four hours from taking your glasses off for
keeps." - L. Ron Hubbard, "Eyesight and glasses," "Dianetic Auditor's
Bulletin," Vol. 2, No. 7, January 1952
"THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that
down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody
is to lie to them." - L. Ron Hubbard, "Off the Time Track," lecture of June
1952, excerpted in JOURNAL OF SCIENTOLOGY issue 18-G, reprinted in TECHNICAL
VOLUMES OF DIANETICS & SCIENTOLOGY, vol. 1, p. 418
"This [Scientology] is useful knowledge. With it the blind again see, the
lame walk, the ill recover, the insane become sane and the sane become
saner. By its use the thousand abilities Man has sought to recover become
his once more." - L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENTOLOGY: A HISTORY OF MAN, 1952
"Of all the ills of man which can be successfully processed by
Scientology, arthritis ranks near the top. In skilled hands, this ailment,
though misunderstood and dreaded in the past, already has begun to become
history. Twenty-five hours of Scientology by an auditor who fairly
understands how to process arthritis can be said to produce an invariable
alleviation of the condition. Some cases, even severe ones, have responded
in as little as two hours of processing, according to reports from auditors
in the field." - L. Ron Hubbard, "Journal of Scientology," Issue 1-G, 1952
"Leukaemia is evidently psychosomatic in origin and at least eight cases
of leukaemia had been treated successfully by Dianetics after medicine had
traditionally given up. The source of leukaemia has been reported to be an
engram containing the phrase 'It turns my blood to water.'" - L. Ron
Hubbard, "Journal of Scientology," Issue 15-G, 1953
"Scientology...is not a religion." - L. Ron Hubbard, CREATION OF HUMAN
ABILITY, 1954, p. 251
"The purpose of the suit is to harass and discourage rather than to win.
The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on somebody
who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is not
authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause his professional decease.
If possible, of course, ruin him utterly." - L. Ron Hubbard, A MANUAL ON THE
DISSEMINATION OF MATERIAL, 1955
"Now we say there's, well, another place in the world-there's India.
Wonderful place - except for its people." - L. Ron Hubbard, "The Control of
Hysteria" (lecture), 15 April 1957
"When we need somebody haunted we investigate.When we investigate we do so
noisily always." - L. Ron Hubbard, MANUAL OF JUSTICE, 1959
"People attack Scientology, I never forget it, always even the score.
People attack auditors, or staff, or organisations, or me. I never forget
until the slate is clear." - L. Ron Hubbard, MANUAL OF JUSTICE, 1959
"So we listen. We add up associations of people with people. When a push
against Scientology starts somewhere, we go over the people involved and
weed them out. Push vanishes." - L. Ron Hubbard, MANUAL OF JUSTICE, 1959
"If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any
organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause
them to sue for peace. Peace is bought with an exchange of advantage, so
make the advantage and then settle. Don't ever defend. Always attack. Don't
ever do nothing. Unexpected attacks in the rear of the enemy's front ranks
work best." - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter,
"Department of Governmental Affairs", 15 Aug 1960
"We're playing for blood, the stake is EARTH." - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard
Communications Office Policy Letter, 7 November 1962
"There is no more ethical group on this planet than ourselves." - L. Ron
Hubbard, KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING. 7 February 1965, reissued 27 August
1980
"A truly Suppressive Person or group has no rights of any kind and actions
taken against them are not punishable." - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard
Communications Office Policy Letter, 1 March 1965, HCO (Division 1) "Ethics,
Suppressive Acts, Suppression of Scientology and Scientologists"
"Show me any person who is critical of us and I'll show you crimes and
intended crimes that would stand a magistrate's hair on end." - L. Ron
Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Bulletin, 4 April 1965
"In short a staff member can get away with murder so long as his statistic
is up and can't sneeze without a chop if it's down. ... When people do start
reporting a staff member with a high statistic, what you investigate is the
person who turned in the report." - L. Ron Hubbard, HCO PL 1 September 1965,
"Ethics Protection"
"Somebody some day will say 'this is illegal.' By then be sure the orgs
[Scientology organizations] say what is legal or not." - L. Ron Hubbard,
Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 4 January 1966, "LRH
Relationship to Orgs"
"This is the correct procedure: Spot who is attacking us. Start
investigating them promptly for felonies or worse using our own
professionals, not outside agencies. Double curve our reply by saying we
welcome an investigation of them. Start feeding lurid, blood sex crime
actual evidence on the attackers to the press. Don't ever tamely submit to
an investigation of us. Make it rough, rough on attackers all the way." - L.
Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 25 February 1966
"A psychiatrist today has the power to (1) take a fancy to a woman (2)
lead her to take wild treatment as a joke (3) drug and shock her to
temporary insanity (4) incarnate [sic] her (5) use her sexually (6)
sterilise her to prevent conception (7) kill her by a brain operation to
prevent disclosure. And all with no fear of reprisal. Yet it is rape and
murder. We want at least one bad mark on every psychiatrist in England, a
murder, an assault, or a rape or more than one. This is Project Psychiatry.
We will remove them." - L. Ron Hubbard, Sec ED, Office of LRH, Confidential,
22 February 1966, "Project Psychiatry"
"I'm drinking lots of rum and popping pinks and greys." - L. Ron Hubbard
in a 1967 letter to his wife, written during the period when he was creating
Scientology's secret "upper levels." (Bent Corydon and L. Ron Hubbard, Jr.
a.k.a. Ronald DeWolf, "L. RON HUBBARD: MESSIAH OR MADMAN?" Random House
1989)
"ENEMY SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by any
means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May
be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed." - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard
Communications Office Policy Letter, 18 October 1967 [SP = Suppressive
Person a.k.a. critic of Scientology]
"Now, get this as a technical fact, not a hopeful idea. Every time we have
investigated the background of a critic of Scientology, we have found crimes
for which that person or group could be imprisoned under existing law. We do
not find critics of Scientology who do not have criminal pasts." - L. Ron
Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Bulletin, 5 November 1967, "Critics
of Scientology"
"In all the broad Universe there is no other hope for Man than
ourselves." - L. Ron Hubbard, "Ron's Journal" 1967
"The practice of declaring people FAIR GAME will cease. FAIR GAME may not
appear on any Ethics Order. It causes bad public relations. This P/L does
not cancel any policy on the treatment or handling of an SP." - L. Ron
Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 21 October 1968,
"Cancellation of Fair Game"
"When you move off a point of power, pay all your obligations on the nail,
empower all your friends completely and move off with your pockets full of
artillery, potential blackmail on every erstwhile rival, unlimited funds in
your private account and the addresses of experienced assassins and go live
in Bulgravia [sic] and bribe the police." - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard
Communications Office Policy Letter, 12 February 1967, "The Responsibilities
of Leaders"
"The names and connections, at this time, of the bitterly opposing enemy
are: 1. Psychiatry and psychology (not medicine). 2. The heads of news media
who are also directors of psychiatric front groups. 3. A few key political
figures in the fields of "mental health" and education. 4. A decline of
monetary stability caused by the current planning of bankers who are also
directors of psychiatric front organizations [that] would make us unable to
function." - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 16
February 1969, "TARGETS, DEFENSE"
"Our organizations are friendly. They are only here to help you." - L. Ron
Hubbard, "Dianetic Contract" 23 May 1969
"'Psychiatry' and 'psychiatrist' are easily redefined to mean 'an
anti-social enemy of the people'. This takes the kill crazy psychiatrist off
the preferred list of Professions... The redefinition of words is done by
associating different emotions and symbols with the word than were
intended...Scientologists are redefining 'doctor', 'Psychiatry' and
'psychology' to mean 'undesirable antisocial elements'...The way to redefine
a word is to get the new definition repeated as often as possible. Thus it
is necessary to redefine medicine, psychiatry and psychology downward and
define Dianetics and Scientology upwards. This, so far as words are
concerned, is the public opinion battle for belief in your definitions, and
not those of the opposition. A consistent, repeated effort is the key to any
success with this technique of propaganda." - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard
Communications Office Policy Letter, 5 October 1971, PR Series 12,
"Propaganda by Redefinition of Words"
"The alleviation of the condition of insanity has also been accomplished
now." - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Bulletin, November
1970,"Psychosis" "MAKE MONEY. MAKE MORE MONEY. MAKE OTHER PEOPLE PRODUCE SO
AS TO MAKE MORE MONEY." - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office
Policy Letter, 9 March 1972, MS OEC 384
"Having viewed slum clearance projects in most major cities of the world
may I state that you have conceived and created in the Johannesburg
townships what is probably the most impressive and adequate resettlement
activity in existence." - L. Ron Hubbard in a letter to H.F. Verwoerd
(widely considered to be the architect of South Africa's apartheid system)
dated November 7, 1960, reprinted in K.T.C. Kotz�, INQUIRY INTO THE EFFECTS
AND PRACTICES OF SCIENTOLOGY, p. 59, Pretoria 1973
"Scientology is used to increase spiritual freedom, intelligence, ability
and to produce immortality." - L. Ron Hubbard, DIANETICS AND SCIENTOLOGY
TECHNICAL DICTIONARY, copyright 1975, reprinted 1987, p. 370
"When somebody enrols, consider he or she has joined up for the duration
of the universe - never permit an 'open-minded' approach... If they
enrolled, they're aboard, and if they're aboard they're here on the same
terms as the rest of us - win or die in the attempt. Never let them be half
minded about being Scientologists... When Mrs. Pattycake comes to us to be
taught, turn that wandering doubt in her eye into a fixed, dedicated glare.
The proper instruction attitude is, 'We'd rather have you dead than
incapable.'" - L. Ron Hubbard, KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING, 7 February 1965,
reissued 27 August 1980
"I'd like to start a religion. That's where the money is." - L. Ron
Hubbard to Lloyd Eshbach, in 1949; quoted by Eshbach in OVER MY SHOULDER:
REFLECTIONS ON A SCIENCE FICTION ERA, Donald M. Grant Publisher. 1983
"Arthritis vanishes, myopia gets better, heart illness decreases, asthma
disappears, stomachs function properly and the whole catalogue of illnesses
goes away and stays away." L. Ron Hubbard, DIANETICS: THE MODERN SCIENCE OF
MENTAL HEALTH, 1987 Ed., p. 72
"In any event, any person from 2.0 down on the Tone Scale should not
have, in any thinking society, any civil rights of any kind, because by
abusing those rights he brings into being arduous and strenuous laws which
are oppressive to those who need no such restraints." - L. Ron Hubbard,
SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, 1989 Ed., p. 145 [The "Tone Scale" is Scientology's
measure of mental and spiritual health.]
"Scientology is the only specific (cure) for radiation (atomic bomb)
burns." - L. Ron Hubbard, ALL ABOUT RADIATION, p. 109
"Radiation is apparently enormously water-soluble as well as water
removable. According to researchers, one merely has to take a hose to a
building surface or a road to wash the radiation off of it. This factor is
well known to defense trained personnel." - L. Ron Hubbard, Clear Body,
Clear Mind, page 47
"Scientology...is not a psycho-therapy nor a religion." - L. Ron Hubbard's
"Creation of Human Ability" p251
"Unfortunately, it is all too often true that suppressors to a creative
action must be removed before construction and creation takes place. Any
person very high on the Tone Scale may level destruction toward a
suppressor." - L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, p. 159
"There are only two answers for the handling of people from 2.0 down on
the Tone Scale, neither one of which has anything to do with reasoning with
them or listening to their justification of their acts. The first is to
raise them on the Tone Scale by un-enturbulating some of their theta by any
one of the three valid processes. The other is to dispose of them quietly
and without sorrow." - L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, p. 170
"The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower
bands of the Tone Scale from the social order would result in an almost
instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral
into which any society may have entered." - L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF
SURVIVAL, p. 170
"A Venezuelan dictator once decided to stop leprosy. He saw that most
lepers in his country were also beggars. By the simple expedient of
collecting and destroying all the beggars in Venezuela an end was put to
leprosy in that country." - L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, p. 171
"Advanced Courses [in Scientology] are the most valuable service on the
planet. Life insurance, houses, cars, stocks, bonds, college savings, all
are transitory and impermanent... There is nothing to compare with Advanced
Courses. They are infinitely valuable and transcend time itself." - L. Ron
Hubbard speaking of his Operating Thetan Courses, Flag Mission Order 375
"Don't break your back scrubbing floors. Get yourself a nigger, that's
what they were born for." - L. Ron Hubbard, in a letter to his 2nd wife
"A long term propaganda technique used by socialists (Communists and Nazis
alike} is of interest to PR practitioners. I know of no place it is
mentioned in PR literature. But the data had verbal circulation in
intelligence circles and is in constant current use. The trick is -- WORDS
ARE REDEFINED TO MEAN SOMETHING ELSE TO THE ADVANTAGE OF THE PROPAGANDIST.
Many instances of planned and campaigned in order to obtain a public opinion
advantage for the group doing the propaganda. Given enough repetition of the
redefinition public opinion can be altered by altering the meaning of a
word. The technique is good or bad depending on the ultimate objective of
the propagandist."
"There was no Christ."
"Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her crimes,
known and unknown."
"We are slowly and carefully teaching the unholy a lesson. It is as follows:
We are not a law enforcement agency. BUT we will become interested in the
crimes of people who seek to stop us. If you oppose scientology we promptly
look up - and find and expose - your crimes. If you leave us alone we will
leave you alone. It's very simple. Even a fool can grasp that. And don't
underrate our ability to carry it out."
"If the government were to knock out the control point of Scientology they
would reap the whirlwinds."
"A science is something which is constructed from truth on workable axioms,
there are 55 axioms in Scientology which are very demonstrably true."
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"How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?"
Winston thought. "By making him suffer," he said.
"Exactly. By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough. Unless he is
suffering, how can you be sure that he is obeying your will and not his own?
Power is in inflicting pain and humiliation. Power is in tearing human minds
to pieces and putting them together in new shapes of your own choosing. Do
you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact
opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A
world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being
trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but *more* merciless as it
refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress toward more pain. The
old civilizations claimed that they were founded on love and justice. Ours
is founded upon hatred. In our world there will be no emotions except fear,
rage, triumph, and self-abasement. Everything else we will destroy -
everything.
"Already we are breaking down the habits of thought which have survived
from before the Revolution. We have cut the links between child and parent
and between man and woman. No one dares trust a wife or a child or a friend
any longer. But in the future there will be no wives and no friends.
Children will be taken from their mothers at birth, as one takes eggs from a
hen. The sex instinct will be eradicated. Procreation will be an annual
formality like the renewal of a ration card. We shall abolish the orgasm.
Our neurologists are at work upon it now. There will be no loyalty, except
loyalty toward the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big
Brother. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a
defeated enemy. There will be no art, no literature, no science. When we are
omnipotent we shall have no more need for science. There will be no
distinction between beauty and ugliness. There will be no curiosity, no
employment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be
destroyed. But always - do not forget this, Winston - always there will be
the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing
subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the
sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of
the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever."
- George Orwell, "1984"
"Therefore we really do have the remedy before the assault weapon is
produced. Did you ever read poor old George Orwell's uh.. 1984? Yes, yes,
that's wonderful. That would be, could be, the palest imagined shadow of
what a world would be like under the rule of the secret use of Scientology
with no remedy in existence." - L. Ron Hubbard, Philadelphia Doctorate
Course Tape 20
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bigfl...@gmail.com
If one sees that the physiology either 'supports' the paranormal
experiences, or causes them cannot ever be proven.This is where the
rules of epistomology fall down.
Do you love a particular peice of music,because of the way your
hormones respond? Not in my book!
BOfL
Sir Frederick
Try the self qualia, called in folk talk 'feelings'. Your "hormones"
is more folk talk. "Hormones" are part of brain structure and process,
but a limited part. You have your own stories, that you have well practiced,
plus you are very verbose, a form of story practice. Of course I am
similar, but my stories come out of a proven engineering background.
Eventually engineers must build synthetic intelligence that will top
human intelligence, including both self and sensor qualia.
bigfl...@gmail.com
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What "does" an engineering background prove? The vision comes first,
before it is engineered into form.It proves we have the capacity to
bring our imagination into 'reality'. I get the impression that you
are suggesting that engineering stories have more validity.
Which would have had to come first, Mozart or the piano?
Where do visions come from? Did your qualia have a board meeting, and
pass on directions to the executive?
Be interesting trying to engineer qualia into the synthetic
intelligence machine. Imagine that!
I mentioned hormones as a reference to the whole physiological chain
of events.
Tell me which part of the following sequence, qualia kicks in.
I decide to run a mile in four minutes. I get warmed up, and then
psyched up. The gun goes off, then I burst into activity, keeping my
mind fixed on the goal and my attention on the rhythm, overcoming
increasing pain by concentrated determination.
I miss by 10 seconds, but before my next attempt, my body has adapted,
and is capable of greater effort after recovery.
Perhaps insert * where applicable.
BOfL
Sir Frederick
The piano DID come first.
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>Where do visions come from? Did your qualia have a board meeting, and
>pass on directions to the executive?
Can't get away from the personification attribute, can you?
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>Be interesting trying to engineer qualia into the synthetic
>intelligence machine. Imagine that!
Nature did it in a billion or so years.
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>I mentioned hormones as a reference to the whole physiological chain
>of events.
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>Tell me which part of the following sequence, qualia kicks in.
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>I decide to run a mile in four minutes. I get warmed up, and then
>psyched up. The gun goes off, then I burst into activity, keeping my
>mind fixed on the goal and my attention on the rhythm, overcoming
>increasing pain by concentrated determination.
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>I miss by 10 seconds, but before my next attempt, my body has adapted,
>and is capable of greater effort after recovery.
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>Perhaps insert * where applicable.
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>BOfL
The self qualia referenced as "I"(self personification, a virtual reality representation
only).
BOfL
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> >Which would have had to come first, Mozart or the piano?
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> The piano DID come first.
How simplistic....I wonder how Schrodegger would answer that, 'cause M
was a very cool cat.
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> >Where do visions come from? Did your qualia have a board meeting, and
> >pass on directions to the executive?
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> Can't get away from the personification attribute, can you?
What's to get away from? Must be a struggle if you identify self as a
conglomoration of energized cells.Even ones' stories are "attributes"
of self, but not self.
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> >Be interesting trying to engineer qualia into the synthetic
> >intelligence machine. Imagine that!
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> Nature did it in a billion or so years.
Ahhh "that" sort of engineering.Good job there wasnt a time penalty.
BOfL
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> >I mentioned hormones as a reference to the whole physiological chain
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> >Tell me which part of the following sequence, qualia kicks in.
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> >I decide to run a mile in four minutes. I get warmed up, and then
> >psyched up. The gun goes off, then I burst into activity, keeping my
> >mind fixed on the goal and my attention on the rhythm, overcoming
> >increasing pain by concentrated determination.
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> >I miss by 10 seconds, but before my next attempt, my body has adapted,
> >and is capable of greater effort after recovery.
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> >Perhaps insert * where applicable.
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> The self qualia referenced as "I"(self personification, a virtual reality representation
> only).
Which is where you get self deception from ?
BOfL
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