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<< << a homo beige female, and a hetero beige male
Can you please explain these two terms? Have heard of them before but not
sure what it means and didnt even know you could tell by just looking at
them?
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Technically, you are right. A hetero beige has a beige color of coat, that
like a standard, drapes and fades into a white belly, and will have ruby or
red eyes. He/she can produce 50% hetero beige when placed with a standard, a
little more when with a pinkwhite or hetero beige. The color can vary from a
light blonde color to a suede brown color.
A homo beige is a single color all over, a creamy white that some call
strawberry because of its slight pink cast. They have pink eyes. A TRUE homo
beige can produce only more beige, so no matter what the mate, the kits will
carry the beige gene and show that as a matter of hetero beige, homo beige,
TOV, or pinkwhite. You can really not know if it is a homo beige until it has
been bred and you have seen several litters of the union with more than one
female.
Now, in a pet market, many of us take the liberty of calling a beige homo if
it is one color all over and has the pinkish cast and pink eyes, and a hetero
beige if it is a fading color, white belly, and ruby eyes. This seems to be
an accepted description of the difference in the two--hetero beige and homo
beige. I also have found these same situations to be with homo and hetero
ebony.
Now that I have completely confused everyone, let one of the genetic guys get
hold of this, and they will explain specifically what it take to make one,
what one can make, and how often that will happen. What no one can really do
is insure that it is homo from the color of its fur. We will probably all
agree, however, that you can't read a chin's genetics by the color of its
cover.
Susie
GNat's Chinchillas
Texas >>
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Vance...@aol.com wrote:
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> << << a homo beige female, and a hetero beige male
> Can you please explain these two terms? Have heard of them before but not
> sure what it means and didnt even know you could tell by just looking at
> them?
> >>
>
>
> Technically, you are right. A hetero beige has a beige color of coat, that
> like a standard, drapes and fades into a white belly, and will have ruby or
> red eyes. He/she can produce 50% hetero beige when placed with a standard, a
> little more when with a pinkwhite or hetero beige. The color can vary from a
> light blonde color to a suede brown color.
> A homo beige is a single color all over
Hi Susie,
As far I consider it, a homo beige isn't the same color all over. A homo
beige also has a white belly (same as hetero beige) I felt I had to
correct this.
> a creamy white that some call
> strawberry because of its slight pink cast. They have pink eyes. A TRUE homo
> beige can produce only more beige, so no matter what the mate, the kits will
> carry the beige gene and show that as a matter of hetero beige, homo beige,
> TOV, or pinkwhite. You can really not know if it is a homo beige until it has
> been bred and you have seen several litters of the union with more than one
> female.
I hope you've read that mail about the blue eyes <grin>. Because homo
beige is one of the colors which you can see it's a homzygous animal.
> Now, in a pet market, many of us take the liberty of calling a beige homo if
> it is one color all over and has the pinkish cast and pink eyes, and a hetero
> beige if it is a fading color, white belly, and ruby eyes. This seems to be
> an accepted description of the difference in the two--hetero beige and homo
> beige. I also have found these same situations to be with homo and hetero
> ebony.
Oops I don't know what's going on in the pet market but an ebony always
has a colored belly regardless it's a homozygous or heterozygous animal.
There are some hetero ebonies which almost haven't any color on the
belly but those I consider as very bad color ebonies. On a show they
will be judged as dark standards.......
And beiges always have white bellies regardless the state of the genes.
> Now that I have completely confused everyone
Yep, you sure did <grin>, I hope the pet-market (and I thought chinmail
represents the pet market) will leran soon cause I think people might
get dissapointed by thinking they have bought a certain animal and it
turns out to be something else (a hetero ebony with white belly...)
Please don't get me wrong Susie, I'm not accusing you, I know you know
ho it should be.
, let one of the genetic
guys get
> hold of this, and they will explain specifically what it take to make one,
> what one can make, and how often that will happen. What no one can really do
> is insure that it is homo from the color of its fur. We will probably all
> agree, however, that you can't read a chin's genetics by the color of its
> cover.
Unfortunaly the homo beige is the only mutation for which this doesn't
go. As I told in another male you can see it in their eyes. The eyes
must have a blueish hint in it.
So how to "make" a homozygous beige?
Hetero beige * hetero beige:
50% hetero beige
25% homo beige
25% standard
Hetero beige * Brown Velvet(pastel velvet):
12,5% homo beige
25% hetero beige
12,5% standard
12,5% blond velvet (light pastel velvet)
25% brown velvet (pastel velvet)
12,5% black velvet
Hetero beige * Pink white
12,5% homo beige
25% hetero beige
12,5% standard
12,5% white/homo beige cross
25% pinkwhite
12,5% somekind of wilson white (white, mosaic or silver)
Ofcourse you also can breed homo beiges with a hetero ebony pastel or
whatever kind of crosses as long as there is beige in both animals an
both animals don't carry another trait in a homozygous state. For
example with a homo ebony pastell you'll never breed a homo beige, cause
that ebony will always throw an ebony gene....
Thank you for the information Susie,
sander
> Susie
> GNat's Chinchillas
> Texas >>
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> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:57:00 EST
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> In a message dated 2/14/99 5:02:01 PM Central Standard Time, jasp...@mnsi.net
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