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Jan 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/18/99
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i'm just writing with a question that has me stunped. What is a pastel
chin? In some places they seem to be the same as tans but elswhere they
are called something different. What colour combinations produce pastels
and what do pastel chins look like. Also how do you tell whether an ebony
is homo or hetro. On some sites i have seen jet black ebonies called
hetros.
Could somebody please explain what this is all about?

Thanx from Rachael

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Jan 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/18/99
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> i'm just writing with a question that has me stunped. What is a pastel
> chin? In some places they seem to be the same as tans but elswhere they
> are called something different.

Welcome to the confusing world of color descriptions. Tans, pastels,
ebony browns, chocolats they are all in the same league...

What colour combinations produce pastels
> and what do pastel chins look like.

Pastel is a term that designates beige in the genetic make-up. We have
pastel velvets and ebony pastels.

Obviously an ebony pastel is a cross between somekind of beige and
somekind of ebony. The ebony can be in a homozygous or heterozygous
state and the beige can be in a homozygous or heterozygous state. So all
kind of varying shades are possible. Mostly we speak of two groups: dark
pastels and light pastels

Light pastels have at least the beige part in a homozygous state. But
beware young kits might look like a light pastel, but when turning older
they are getting darker and darker (experience). Anyway true light
pastells can be recognized by their eyes; light red with a blueish hint
in it.

Well dark pastels have the beige part in a heterozygous state (the other
part is black)


Also how do you tell whether an ebony
> is homo or hetro.

The belly, eye brows and body sides will tell you in a good way what is
a real heterozygous animal; they'll turn up lighter than the back.

On some sites i have seen jet black ebonies called
> hetros.

That's because a totally black animal hasn't have to be a homozygous
animal. Such can be the distribution.... That's why I always say :
homozygous until breeding proved different....

There is no telling if it's a true homozygous animal. Breeding will tell
you all.

Sander

Anjela Ross

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Jan 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/19/99
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Hi there

OK, well the difference between a hetero ebony and a full black ebony is that
one is a half ebony and one a full ebony, meaning that the hetero only carries
one ebony gene and the full black ebony carries two ebony genes. Alot of
information on homepages, especially on genetics is wrong and you really need
to search around all the sites to get some decent information. As some of it
is way off track and very confusing for people.

Anyhow, with regards to pastels, well there are two different groups that seem
to be called pastels. In the UK where I am from, if you cross a beige charcoal
carrier or a homo beige charcoal carrier to a charcoal it is possible to breed
what is called a pastel or a light pastel, dependant on what type of beige you
use. The charcoal acts in the same manner as ebony and wraps the colour around
the bodies, although using ebony produces better results, as charcoals on the
whole do not tend to be as good quality as ebony chins. When crossing ebony
to a beige ebony carrier you will produce what I would call as tan, as it is
called in the USA and Canada, but here in Europe, they call it an Ebony
pastel. It is also possible to breed a chocolate coloured Tan or ebony pastel,
by crossing an ebony that has black velvet in it as well, to a beige carrying
ebony. These animals are known as Dark Tans in the states, or as Touch of
velvet tans, but in Europe that are known as chocolates or ebony pastels.

It may seem confusing but hopefully this has helped you out as bit to know
what the difference is. If looking to purchase one you will need to find out
whether it has ebony or charcoal in it, to know which way is best to proceed
with breeding from it and then know what you are going to produce from it.

If you need further help with this, by all means email me or take a look at my
homepage on which there is an article about breeding with ebony, which may
give you a better insight into this.

Bye for now

Anjela
Crystal Chinchillas

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> Dear Group
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> i'm just writing with a question that has me stunped. What is a pastel
> chin? In some places they seem to be the same as tans but elswhere they

> are called something different. What colour combinations produce pastels
> and what do pastel chins look like. Also how do you tell whether an ebony
> is homo or hetro. On some sites i have seen jet black ebonies called
> hetros.


> Could somebody please explain what this is all about?
>
> Thanx from Rachael
>

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