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Re: Hasn't Polgar Been to the White House Ms. Suhay?
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samsloan
Apr 18, 2012, 10:53:34 AM4/18/12
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Susan Polgar has posted a fake April Fools picture of herself with
President Obama.
http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/2011/04/president-obama-greeted-knight-raider.html
However, I do not see the big deal. Even if she really had met with
him, what difference would it make?
What is a big deal is how Susan Polgar keeps making false claims about
her accomplishments.
For example, here is one she often makes:
"FIRST WOMAN EVER IN HISTORY TO:
"o Break the gender barrier to qualify for the Men’s World
Championship Cycle (1986)"
This refers to her tie for second place in the 1986 Hungarian
Championship. However, this was the weakest ever Hungarian
Championship, as no grandmasters played. Her tie for second did NOT
qualify her for the Men's World Championship Cycle as she finished
third on tie-breaking points, and only the top two got to go to the
Zonal Tournament. Also, she never played again in the Hungarian
Championship and this result from 26 years ago is not noteworthy.
Again and again, Truong and Polgar use this 1986 result to claim that
Polgar did not merely qualify to be one of hundreds to compete for the
world championship, but that she was actually denied the world
championship title because she was a woman. Here is one example:
"Troung spoke before the crowd Friday reminding those in
attendance of Polgar’s struggle to overcome gender adversity. The four-
time winner of the Women’s World Championship and five-time Olympic
Gold medalist Polgar was the first woman to break the gender barrier
in the game of chess.
"“No woman ever played at the level of the champion men before
Susan. She was told no to the number one title because of who she was
as a woman,” Troung said. “This wasn’t 100 years ago either.”"
http://lubbockonline.com/local-news/2011-07-29/girls-develop-their-chess-playing-susan-polgar-invitational#.T47ShtXleSo
So here Susan Polgar is claiming to have been the actual World
Champion, whereas in reality she was never even in the top one hundred
players in the world. This demeans the actual accomplishments of Judit
Polgar and Hou Yifan who really are in the top 100 players in the
world.
The Real Sam Sloan
President Obama.
http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/2011/04/president-obama-greeted-knight-raider.html
However, I do not see the big deal. Even if she really had met with
him, what difference would it make?
What is a big deal is how Susan Polgar keeps making false claims about
her accomplishments.
For example, here is one she often makes:
"FIRST WOMAN EVER IN HISTORY TO:
"o Break the gender barrier to qualify for the Men’s World
Championship Cycle (1986)"
This refers to her tie for second place in the 1986 Hungarian
Championship. However, this was the weakest ever Hungarian
Championship, as no grandmasters played. Her tie for second did NOT
qualify her for the Men's World Championship Cycle as she finished
third on tie-breaking points, and only the top two got to go to the
Zonal Tournament. Also, she never played again in the Hungarian
Championship and this result from 26 years ago is not noteworthy.
Again and again, Truong and Polgar use this 1986 result to claim that
Polgar did not merely qualify to be one of hundreds to compete for the
world championship, but that she was actually denied the world
championship title because she was a woman. Here is one example:
"Troung spoke before the crowd Friday reminding those in
attendance of Polgar’s struggle to overcome gender adversity. The four-
time winner of the Women’s World Championship and five-time Olympic
Gold medalist Polgar was the first woman to break the gender barrier
in the game of chess.
"“No woman ever played at the level of the champion men before
Susan. She was told no to the number one title because of who she was
as a woman,” Troung said. “This wasn’t 100 years ago either.”"
http://lubbockonline.com/local-news/2011-07-29/girls-develop-their-chess-playing-susan-polgar-invitational#.T47ShtXleSo
So here Susan Polgar is claiming to have been the actual World
Champion, whereas in reality she was never even in the top one hundred
players in the world. This demeans the actual accomplishments of Judit
Polgar and Hou Yifan who really are in the top 100 players in the
world.
The Real Sam Sloan
Your smrat ®
Apr 18, 2012, 11:30:28 AM4/18/12
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On Apr 18, 10:53 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is a big deal is how Susan Polgar keeps making false claims about
> her accomplishments.
Are her pronouncements more or less egregious than the time that Sam
> What is a big deal is how Susan Polgar keeps making false claims about
> her accomplishments.
Sloan announced that "Sam Sloan wins Silver Medal in World Memory
Championship" and yet failed to mention that he competed in a field of
two?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_frm/thread/8779984596e6746f/d03add3bc5ca63f5?lnk=gst&q=memory#d03add3bc5ca63f5
samsloan
Apr 18, 2012, 11:52:16 AM4/18/12
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On Apr 18, 8:30 am, Your smrat ® <yoursm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 18, 10:53 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What is a big deal is how Susan Polgar keeps making false claims about
> > her accomplishments.
>
> Are her pronouncements more or less egregious than the time that Sam
> Sloan announced that "Sam Sloan wins Silver Medal in World Memory
> Championship" and yet failed to mention that he competed in a field of
> two?
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/browse_frm/thread/8779...
> On Apr 18, 10:53 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What is a big deal is how Susan Polgar keeps making false claims about
> > her accomplishments.
>
> Are her pronouncements more or less egregious than the time that Sam
> Sloan announced that "Sam Sloan wins Silver Medal in World Memory
> Championship" and yet failed to mention that he competed in a field of
> two?
>
True, but I really did win the Silver Medal.
Also you had to qualify or be invited to the event. It was not an open
event.
Sam Sloan
samsloan
Apr 18, 2012, 3:17:39 PM4/18/12
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[quote="artichoke"][quote="jacklemoine"]Just a little point of
historical trivia: I saw a photo of the Polgars posing with George
Bush (the elder) at the White House some years ago.[/quote]
And I remember her boasting during the W administration (I have a
vague impression that it was shortly after "Mission Accomplished")
that she was going to a function at the White House.
Now she either forgot those highlights when saying she has never been
invited by a sitting President ... or at least the latter claim was
not exactly correct ... or she's the queen of sour grapes.[/quote]
I did not see this. Is she actually complaining that a sitting US
President has never invited her to the White House?
This would be a bit like her suing the USCF because we only put her
picture on the cover of Chess Life one time. That was part of her
lawsuit in Texas.
Sam Sloan
historical trivia: I saw a photo of the Polgars posing with George
Bush (the elder) at the White House some years ago.[/quote]
And I remember her boasting during the W administration (I have a
vague impression that it was shortly after "Mission Accomplished")
that she was going to a function at the White House.
Now she either forgot those highlights when saying she has never been
invited by a sitting President ... or at least the latter claim was
not exactly correct ... or she's the queen of sour grapes.[/quote]
I did not see this. Is she actually complaining that a sitting US
President has never invited her to the White House?
This would be a bit like her suing the USCF because we only put her
picture on the cover of Chess Life one time. That was part of her
lawsuit in Texas.
Sam Sloan
Your smrat ®
Apr 18, 2012, 3:04:51 PM4/18/12
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On Apr 18, 11:52 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also you had to qualify or be invited to the event. It was not an open
> event.
That's odd. In the thread in which you announced your glorious last
> Also you had to qualify or be invited to the event. It was not an open
> event.
place silver medal finish you explained your pathetic showing by
saying that others had trained whereas
"By contrast, I was a walk-in. I attended this event essentially by
accident, as I did not know about it and was on my way to Beijing for
the Sports Accord event."
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/msg/03e057c6b97d8a0a
Can you explain how you qualified for or were invited to an event that
you did not know about and attended by accident?
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