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Bjorn

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Mar 16, 2004, 12:25:33 AM3/16/04
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Ok, this is not a Nokia, but I would like to point my finger on one issue.
Just recently Nokia revealed new models coming later this year, but only 1.3
megapixel cameras. This week a small vendor reveals a 2.1 megapixel camera
phone to come in 2004. Why is the biggest manufacturer not able to keep up
with the small ones?
You can read about this phone here
http://www.phonecontent.com/bm/news/gnews/205.shtml


eggster2k

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Mar 16, 2004, 4:11:36 AM3/16/04
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 06:25:33 +0100, "Bjorn" <humo...@online.no>
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phones are getting silly now!

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Mar 16, 2004, 1:37:51 PM3/16/04
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 06:25:33 +0100, "Bjorn" <humo...@online.no>
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|>Ok, this is not a Nokia, but I would like to point my finger on one issue.

I read of this last month. 1.3 Mpix were available at that time, this
month 2.1 Mpix chips will become available.

Nice too, their a different beast than what are being used now.
smaller, less current demand.
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Mar 16, 2004, 2:16:50 PM3/16/04
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 06:25:33 +0100, "Bjorn" <humo...@online.no>
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I read of this last month. 1.3 Mpix were available at that time, this


month 2.1 Mpix chips will become available.

Nice too, there a different beast than what are being used now.


smaller, less current demand.
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Trax

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Mar 16, 2004, 2:31:54 PM3/16/04
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 06:25:33 +0100, "Bjorn" <humo...@online.no>
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I read of this last month. 1.3 Mpix were available at that time, this


month 2.1 Mpix chips will become available.

Nice too, they're a different beast than what are being used now.

Trax

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Mar 16, 2004, 2:32:05 PM3/16/04
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 06:25:33 +0100, "Bjorn" <humo...@online.no>
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<resent X2>

|>Ok, this is not a Nokia, but I would like to point my finger on one issue.

I read of this last month. 1.3 Mpix were available at that time, this

michael turner

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Mar 16, 2004, 8:58:55 PM3/16/04
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What's the point in having a phone with a 2.1megapixel camera built in ?

I thought the purpose of phones with built-in cameras was for sending pics
using MMS. Which probably why most phones have CIF or VGA res. cameras.

You can get a decent multi-megapixel digital camera for less money if you
just want to take photos.

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Mar 17, 2004, 10:35:42 AM3/17/04
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The purpose of a phone with a good camera for me is to be able to have my
camera on hand at all times since I always carry my phone. I rarely send
mms, and use bluetooth to transfer to my computer. When I do send, I use
email, not sms on my 3650.

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Krzys-iek

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Mar 17, 2004, 5:27:50 PM3/17/04
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Bjorn <humo...@online.no> napisal nam:


Do you really think that 2.1Mpix will give you better photo quality with
those plastic, small, crapy lens inside phones?

Now we get ~40KB of:
Chromatic a. , blur picture, hi compression, low saturated colors etc...
2.1Mpix will give you 500KB with those photo related problems (common in
cell phones and very cheap digital camers "trust", apitek etc) ...

And still there is no auto focus system for cellphones with camera ?
only damn fix focus....

0,3Mpix photo from a cheap canon A40 (resized from 2.1Mpix) looks 101010110
times better then any photo from taken with a cell phone, does not it?

vxclubby

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Mar 17, 2004, 8:56:25 PM3/17/04
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Because nokia are fucking theives.
They will release the new phone, wait for everyone to buy it then release
the i model 2 months later and not let you update the firmware, not that
firmware would have anything to do with the mp of a camera.!!! But think
about it, does this sound like the norm for nokia.!!!

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michael turner

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Mar 17, 2004, 9:44:59 PM3/17/04
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:56:25 +0000, vxclubby wrote:

> Because nokia are fucking theives.
> They will release the new phone, wait for everyone to buy it then release
> the i model 2 months later and not let you update the firmware,

Updating the firmware will NOT give you the 'i' version's *hardware* and
features.

Updating a 3510's firmware will not give you the 3510i's
*colour* screen, see also 8910 and 8910i. Same with the 6310, updating the
firmware will not give it the 6310i's Java capabilities.

Anyway there's only four phones in the Nokia range that have 'i' in their
numberings,.

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eggster2k

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Mar 18, 2004, 5:52:44 AM3/18/04
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there used to be quite a few 'i' model nokias in the old days, then
they stopped for a while and now they're back!

rachel

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Mar 18, 2004, 9:19:05 AM3/18/04
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"vxclubby" <tea_tow...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dl76c.108518$Wa.4...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

> Because nokia are fucking theives.
> They will release the new phone, wait for everyone to buy it then release
> the i model 2 months later and not let you update the firmware, not that
> firmware would have anything to do with the mp of a camera.!!! But
think
> about it, does this sound like the norm for nokia.!!!
>

That is quite an accusation!

Many companies do such a thing.
They issue them for a 1st release, and let the complaints or suggestions
roll in from the initial customer's and then re-release the phone.

Most companies do this.
Car manufacturer's refresh models, add different engines, specs.
Computer companies are the best.

Technology moves on so quickly, and unfortunately, the "early adopters"
often suffer


michael turner

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Mar 18, 2004, 9:46:09 AM3/18/04
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The one phone, although it ain't Nokia, that I know of where a firmware
update would give you the 'i's features, was the SE t68. However
I never actually bothered getting my t68 upgraded to the 'i' version.

Ben Pope

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Mar 20, 2004, 9:47:05 AM3/20/04
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600euros vs say, 500 for the 6600.

Bear in mind that if this company sells 1% of the number of phones that
Nokia sell, then they'll likely be pretty chuffed. When you are a small
company you can afford to differentiate yourself in different ways. It's
not about keeping up, it's about making the most money in the easiest way -
and for a small company vs the worlds largest handset manufacturer, there
are clearly differences in what they should do.

It looks like a nice piece of kit.

Ben
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