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Neil

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Jul 31, 2001, 10:47:33 AM7/31/01
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This may be common knowledge, I've been skipping lots of
threads the past few weeks.

What's with the random text posts that have been showing
up recently? The big blocks of text seemingly made up of
randomly chosen words. They're all from different account
names at yahoo.com, and I don't see a way to block them
short of killfiling everything from yahoo.

Thanks for any info.


Luria
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_____

Take the utmost trouble to find the right thing to say,
and then say it with the utmost levity.

- George Bernard Shaw

Leigh Claffey

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Jul 31, 2001, 10:52:31 AM7/31/01
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Neil wrote:
>
> This may be common knowledge, I've been skipping lots of
> threads the past few weeks.
>
> What's with the random text posts that have been showing
> up recently? The big blocks of text seemingly made up of
> randomly chosen words. They're all from different account
> names at yahoo.com, and I don't see a way to block them
> short of killfiling everything from yahoo.
>
> Thanks for any info.
>
> Luria
> (Remove <ical> to E-Mail)

Yahoos posting from yahoo, of course.
Wish someone would bathe them...

--Leigh

Lee S. Billings

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Jul 31, 2001, 11:31:40 AM7/31/01
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In article <20010731104733...@ng-cm1.aol.com>,
ndav...@aol.comical says...

>
>This may be common knowledge, I've been skipping lots of
>threads the past few weeks.
>
>What's with the random text posts that have been showing
>up recently? The big blocks of text seemingly made up of
>randomly chosen words. They're all from different account
>names at yahoo.com, and I don't see a way to block them
>short of killfiling everything from yahoo.

That's a specific type of spammer attack. I don't know why they'd be doing it
in a.c., though -- usually it happens in the net.abuse groups. Mindspring has a
good set of filters; I haven't seen any of what you're talking about, but I
recognize it from comments Werehatrack has made.

Celine

--
"Only the powers of evil claim that doing good is boring."
-- Diane Duane, _Nightfall at Algemron_

D. Potter

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Jul 31, 2001, 11:57:52 AM7/31/01
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Celine wrote:

>In article <20010731104733...@ng-cm1.aol.com>,
>ndav...@aol.comical says...
>>
>>This may be common knowledge, I've been skipping lots of
>>threads the past few weeks.
>>
>>What's with the random text posts that have been showing
>>up recently? The big blocks of text seemingly made up of
>>randomly chosen words. They're all from different account
>>names at yahoo.com, and I don't see a way to block them
>>short of killfiling everything from yahoo.
>
>That's a specific type of spammer attack. I don't know why they'd be doing
>it
>in a.c., though -- usually it happens in the net.abuse groups. Mindspring
>has a
>good set of filters; I haven't seen any of what you're talking about, but
>I
>recognize it from comments Werehatrack has made.

We (Other Newsgroup) had a flood of that mess last week (some of it including
Werehatrack's name); the examples I saw were crossposted to
news.admin.net-abuse.email. This current set has follow-ups set to
news.admin.net-abuse.email. nfilter is recommended, if you don't have a Mac.
Also Agent.

One can always hope that someday, spammers will have lives thrust upon them.

--
D. Potter

"Quit worrying about the chimera and pay attention to the damn bear!"
--Randolph Fritz, in rasff

Alison Murray

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Jul 31, 2001, 12:00:55 PM7/31/01
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On 31 Jul 2001 15:31:40 GMT, stard...@mindspring.com (Lee S.
Billings) wrote:

>In article <20010731104733...@ng-cm1.aol.com>,
>ndav...@aol.comical says...
>>
>>This may be common knowledge, I've been skipping lots of
>>threads the past few weeks.
>>
>>What's with the random text posts that have been showing
>>up recently? The big blocks of text seemingly made up of
>>randomly chosen words. They're all from different account
>>names at yahoo.com, and I don't see a way to block them
>>short of killfiling everything from yahoo.
>
>That's a specific type of spammer attack. I don't know why they'd be doing it
>in a.c., though -- usually it happens in the net.abuse groups. Mindspring has a
>good set of filters; I haven't seen any of what you're talking about, but I
>recognize it from comments Werehatrack has made.
>

It's popping up everywhere. The only groups I haven't seen them in are
the binaries groups.

Ali ;-)

[tluA ssuR] kcartahereW

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Jul 31, 2001, 11:19:35 AM7/31/01
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:52:31 GMT, Leigh Claffey <sna...@home.com>
wrote:

>Neil wrote:
>>
>> This may be common knowledge, I've been skipping lots of
>> threads the past few weeks.
>>
>> What's with the random text posts that have been showing
>> up recently? The big blocks of text seemingly made up of
>> randomly chosen words. They're all from different account
>> names at yahoo.com, and I don't see a way to block them
>> short of killfiling everything from yahoo.
>

>Yahoos posting from yahoo, of course.
>Wish someone would bathe them...
>

If only it were that simple.

Repeating what I posted in another message:

The spew you are seeing in these nonsense messages is a deliberate
attempt by an entity called "hipcrime" to cause disruption of the
anti-spam newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.email by causing others to
*reply* to these postings without killing the n.a.n-a.e "followup-to"
setting in the spew postings. The poster of these messages has been
putting out up to 250K of them per day; originally, they were posted
just to nanae, but lately the news feed services have been getting
much more effective at filtering his high-volume spewage into that
group, so now he's trying to bypass the filters by getting unwitting
assistance from others.

Bottom line: If you find something amusing about the spew, and want
to note that in a message, please MAKE SURE that your newsreader DOES
NOT forward your response into news.admin.net-abuse.email

BTW, hipcrime has also been forging the names of users of nanae (and
presumably other newsgroups) on messages posted both in nanae and
elsewhere; don't assume that spew from a familiar name really came
from that person.

(adding this:)

The postings cite yahoo addresses, but the headers show paths that
originate from Roadrunner; it has become apparent that Roadrunner is
incapable of dealing with the problem effectively; system admins have
contacted Roadrunner's admins repeatedly about this, and all that I
have seen thus far in the way of action from RR is a temporary
shutdown of an individual abused server here and there; they have
failed to take the really *needed* step of securing their systems
against unauthorized usage.

Spamblocked address; remove snowfromdriveway if replying.

Neil

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Jul 31, 2001, 1:19:56 PM7/31/01
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tluA ssuR etorw:

>, Leigh Claffey <sna...@home.com> wrote:
>>Neil wrote:
>>>
>>> This may be common knowledge, I've been skipping lots of
>>> threads the past few weeks.
>>>
>>> What's with the random text posts that have been showing
>>> up recently? The big blocks of text seemingly made up of
>>> randomly chosen words. They're all from different account
>>> names at yahoo.com, and I don't see a way to block them
>>> short of killfiling everything from yahoo.
>>
>>Yahoos posting from yahoo, of course.
>>Wish someone would bathe them...
>
>If only it were that simple.
>
>Repeating what I posted in another message:
>
>The spew you are seeing in these nonsense messages is a deliberate
>attempt by an entity called "hipcrime" to cause disruption of the
>anti-spam newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.email

<snip>

>Bottom line: If you find something amusing about the spew, and want
>to note that in a message, please MAKE SURE that your newsreader DOES
>NOT forward your response into news.admin.net-abuse.email

Thanks! I always trim cross-postings anyway.

<snip>

>The postings cite yahoo addresses, but the headers show paths that
>originate from Roadrunner; it has become apparent that Roadrunner is
>incapable of dealing with the problem effectively; system admins have
>contacted Roadrunner's admins repeatedly about this, and all that I
>have seen thus far in the way of action from RR is a temporary
>shutdown of an individual abused server here and there; they have
>failed to take the really *needed* step of securing their systems
>against unauthorized usage.

I have noticed it's not all through yahoo; the first dozen or so
I looked at had those addresses.


Luria
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Leigh Claffey

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Jul 31, 2001, 2:07:49 PM7/31/01
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"[tluA ssuR] kcartahereW" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:52:31 GMT, Leigh Claffey <sna...@home.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Neil wrote:
> >>
> >> This may be common knowledge, I've been skipping lots of
> >> threads the past few weeks.
> >>
> >> What's with the random text posts that have been showing
> >> up recently? The big blocks of text seemingly made up of
> >> randomly chosen words. They're all from different account
> >> names at yahoo.com, and I don't see a way to block them
> >> short of killfiling everything from yahoo.
> >
> >Yahoos posting from yahoo, of course.
> >Wish someone would bathe them...
> >
>
> If only it were that simple.
>
> Repeating what I posted in another message:
>
Sorry guys. I was making a literary reference
(yeah, trying to be a smidge funny...)
All I saw was A.C. in my reply so I have to assume
it only went to you guys in response to Neil's query.

--Leigh
(Maybe I should just get a frigging 'End User' button
and get it over with...)
Sorry

Peter Eng

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Jul 31, 2001, 3:15:57 PM7/31/01
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----------
In article <tukdmts5aftivlad1...@4ax.com>, Alison Murray
<amu...@dallasjewishweek.com> wrote:


>
>>In article <20010731104733...@ng-cm1.aol.com>,
>>ndav...@aol.comical says...
>>>
>>>This may be common knowledge, I've been skipping lots of
>>>threads the past few weeks.
>>>
>>>What's with the random text posts that have been showing
>>>up recently? The big blocks of text seemingly made up of
>>>randomly chosen words. They're all from different account
>>>names at yahoo.com, and I don't see a way to block them
>>>short of killfiling everything from yahoo.
>>
>>

> It's popping up everywhere. The only groups I haven't seen them in are
> the binaries groups.
>
> Ali ;-)
>

THAT'S IT!!!

Of course, now it makes sense...hipcrime's trying to post binaries! :)

Peter Eng

Werehatrack

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Jul 31, 2001, 2:41:23 PM7/31/01
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:07:49 GMT, Leigh Claffey <sna...@home.com>
wrote:

>


>--Leigh
>(Maybe I should just get a frigging 'End User' button
>and get it over with...)

Once, a number of years ago, I ran across a local parts outlet that
had two left of a "special" keyboard with an extra key that was marked
"Reset"; I asked, and sure enough, the key was set up to issue the
ctrl-alt-delete keystroke combination...on a single key. Sensing an
opportunity here, I grabbed them both. I took them home, carefully
sanded the word "Reset" off the three-finger button, and even more
carefully marked it with the word "Any".

Concealed in a large backpack, I took one with me to the University of
Houston computer terminal lab, where the PCs were located which
students could use as terminals to access the Vaxen on which the
majority of students had their accounts in those days. I carefully
timed my arrival to be during a time when I knew the population of the
lab would be small, and stealthily swapped the keyboard onto a PC
nearby.

A few minutes were all I had to wait before a student came in and sat
down to access the Vaxen from that machine; the first step in this
process was to get a login screen, which was accomplished by rebooting
the PC. The machines were running MSDOS 6.2 in those days, and the
batch file which loaded the network drivers and login utility had a
"pause" command in it just after the login line...which displayed the
message "Press any key to continue." The student promptly did exactly
as he had been told to do by the machine. He pressed the "Any"
key...and the machine rebooted. On the third round, he finally
figured out that something weird was going on, so he got up and headed
for the tech support desk, where a CS grad student was earning a
pittance by handing out BOFH advice in very broken English. As the
student made his way up to the help desk, I surreptitiously swapped
the keyboard back out, and when the CS grad came back to demonstrate
that "Press any key to continue" would work just fine if you hit
"Enter", the student had *no* luck convincing him that there really
*was* an "Any" key just a few minutes ago.

The help desk guy was someone I knew, and it became obvious that he'd
figured that something fishy was going on; as I was about to leave a
little while later, he motioned me over. "How you make that guy think
there is 'Any' key, and how you get it to reboot with one key?" I
showed him the keyboard; he offered me $20 for it. I took the money.
I have *no* idea what he did with the keyboard...but three days later,
he asked me if I had another one, and I sold him the second for the
same price.

Martin DeMello

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Jul 31, 2001, 3:59:00 PM7/31/01
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[tluA ssuR] kcartahereW <really.not@home> wrote:

> Bottom line: If you find something amusing about the spew, and want
> to note that in a message, please MAKE SURE that your newsreader DOES
> NOT forward your response into news.admin.net-abuse.email

And repeating what I posted in another ng (and don't worry, I did remove
nanae <g>):

Swinburne on stimulants, Kafka on acid
Joyce with a bong (which would render him placid)
Gibson a-flirting with opium punk
Couldn't have written a tenth of this junk

When I'm spaced out
When I'm smoking
When the world is bleared
I simply look over the drivel in here
And then I don't feel
So weird

--
Martin DeMello

Kevin Ahearn

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Jul 31, 2001, 7:37:15 PM7/31/01
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>Swinburne on stimulants, Kafka on acid
>Joyce with a bong (which would render him placid)
>Gibson a-flirting with opium punk
>Couldn't have written a tenth of this junk
>
> When I'm spaced out
> When I'm smoking
> When the world is bleared
> I simply look over the drivel in here
> And then I don't feel
> So weird
>
>--
>Martin DeMello

I LOVE IT! Thanks for posting!

--Kevin
The newest version of the universe is running around with arms akimbo, foaming
the mouth, completely out of its mind.

--Joel Achenbach

Remove shooting star to reply. Unsolicited commercial e-mails will be shat
upon and reported to your ISP.

Martin DeMello

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Jul 31, 2001, 8:58:53 PM7/31/01
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Kevin Ahearn <kevah...@aol.comet.com> wrote:

> I LOVE IT! Thanks for posting!

Thanks :) Now if I can just get this tune out of my head...

--
Martin DeMello/zem

D_Jim

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Jul 31, 2001, 9:49:05 PM7/31/01
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zem says:

>Kevin wrote:
>
>> I LOVE IT! Thanks for posting!
>
>Thanks :) Now if I can just get this tune out of my head...

Singing. Singing.

Oooh, I not Cthulu and I'm okay !
I type all night,
and answer the phone all day !

I keep me stockings,
hidden in a drawer,
its made of plywood,
from the Elder Daaays !

I hops about on my tenticles,
making Root Beer !

My slide rule,
is non-Euclidian,
it makes me very happy !

Ole' !

D.J. whose brain hurts. :-)

--
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http://djim51.crosswinds.net/
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D_Jim

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zem says:

>Kevin wrote:
>
>> I LOVE IT! Thanks for posting!
>
>Thanks :) Now if I can just get this tune out of my head...

Singing. Singing.

Oooh, I not Cthulu and I'm okay !
I type all night,
and answer the phone all day !

I keep me stockings,
hidden in a drawer,
its made of plywood,
from the Elder Daaays !

I hops about on my tenticles,
making Root Beer !

My slide rule,
is non-Euclidian,

it has a mind-meld of its ooowwwnnn !

Martin DeMello

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Jul 31, 2001, 11:30:57 PM7/31/01
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D_Jim <dji...@webcheesydatasync.com> wrote:

> zem says:
>>
>>Thanks :) Now if I can just get this tune out of my head...

> Singing. Singing.

> Oooh, I not Cthulu and I'm okay !

LOL! Yeah, like that's so much better :)

--
Martin DeMello/zem

Peter Eng

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Aug 1, 2001, 2:44:14 AM8/1/01
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In article <9k7t5h$49b$1...@joe.rice.edu>, Martin DeMello
<mdem...@ruf.rice.edu> wrote:

Okay, try this one:

I'm a toad again
Just got changed into a toad again
The lass I love wants only humans for her friends
And I can't believe that I'm a toad again

I'm a toad again
Hopping to towns where I've never been
Praying that I can be human once again
And I can't believe that I'm a toad again

Oh, I'm a toad again
I ticked off a wizard and now I'm stuck this way
And I need my friends
'Cause I'd sure like to be human again some day
So I say

I'm a toad again
Just got changed into a toad again
The lass I love wants only humans for her friends
And I can't believe that I'm a toad again

I'm a toad again
I ticked off a wizard and now I'm stuck this way
Oh, I need my friends
'Cause I'd sure like to be human again someday
So I say

Now I'm myself again
And the fee is ninety thousand yen
I get paid next week, can you wait until then....
Oh, I can't believe it, I'm a toad again.
No, I can't believe it, I'm a toad again.

There. Is that any better?

Peter Eng

Martin DeMello

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Aug 1, 2001, 3:51:52 AM8/1/01
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Werehatrack <ra...@argosnowfromdrivewaylink.net> wrote:
<snip *hilarious* tale>

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

--
Martin DeMello/zem

cynical innocent

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Aug 1, 2001, 5:52:25 AM8/1/01
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Werehatrack <ra...@argoSnowFromDrivewaylink.net> wrote:

> I took them home, carefully sanded the word "Reset" off the three-finger
> button, and even more carefully marked it with the word "Any".

Hee hee! Sounds like the sort of thing I would have _loved_ to do when I
was running a computer lab in high school.

--Rose

--
Knowledge and understanding aren't props | { http://i.am/rwp/ }
for one another. Knowledge is a pile of bricks, | { ro...@callahans.org }
and understanding is a way of building. | { pragmatic hedonist }
-- Theodore Sturgeon, "The Sex Opposite" | { cynical innocent }

WareWolf

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Aug 1, 2001, 7:25:56 AM8/1/01
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You are an evil, evil man, Russ.

BOYC?

Dusty

In case you missed it:


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Martin DeMello

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Peter Eng <dorn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Okay, try this one:

> I'm a toad again
> Just got changed into a toad again

Don't know this one - who's it by? Sounds annoyingly catchy just from the
lyrics.

--
Martin DeMello/zem

Lollee Roberts

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Aug 1, 2001, 12:21:41 PM8/1/01
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In article <9k8v3r$3gd$1...@joe.rice.edu>, Martin DeMello <mdem...@ruf.rice.edu>
writes:

> Okay, try this one:
>
>> I'm a toad again
>> Just got changed into a toad again
>
>Don't know this one - who's it by? Sounds annoyingly catchy just from the
>lyrics.
>

Willie Nelson's "On the Road Again". I'm sure you know the tune. It's sort of
ubiquitous here in Texas.
Lollee

Ace Lightning

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Aug 1, 2001, 4:50:02 PM8/1/01
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Martin DeMello wrote:
>>I'm a toad again
>>Just got changed into a toad again
>Don't know this one - who's it by? Sounds annoyingly catchy just from the
>lyrics.

"On The Road Again", which was a huge hit for Willie Nelson.

The Revanchist

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Aug 2, 2001, 4:00:29 PM8/2/01
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> Neil wrote:
> >
> >
> > What's with the random text posts that have been showing
> > up recently? The big blocks of text seemingly made up of
> > randomly chosen words. They're all from different account
> > names at yahoo.com, and I don't see a way to block them
> > short of killfiling everything from yahoo.

They originate at demon.co.uk, check the headers, send a copy of each
one complete with the headers to ab...@demon.net and the account will
be closed.

Do not reply to the posts on the ng, the follow-ups are set to go
elsewhere.


--
The Revanchist
'Revenge is mine' saith the Lord, 'so, let's talk franchising.'
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revanchist [at] camelot [.] de


Gessika Rovario-Cole

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Aug 8, 2001, 4:51:21 AM8/8/01
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*giggle* Well, I don't know how zem feels, but it made me giggle like
mad. Which is a good thing right now."

"BOYC?"

Gesi
--
I'm not men.
I'm not a group.
It's just me.
- Trent
(Playing By Heart)

Peter Eng

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Aug 9, 2001, 4:31:53 AM8/9/01
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In article <MPG.15dac795b...@News.CIS.DFN.DE>, Gessika
Rovario-Cole <mys...@spamcop.net> wrote:


> And then Peter Eng said:
>> Okay, try this one:
>>

>> I'm a toad again...
(snip)


>>
>
> *giggle* Well, I don't know how zem feels, but it made me giggle like
> mad. Which is a good thing right now."
>
> "BOYC?"
>
> Gesi
> --

"I'll take a glass of milk to go with the fudge-covered Oreos in my
freezer."

Peter Eng
--
who prefers being e-mailed as peng, a resident of scn.org, and is under the
impression that spambots aren't smart enough to translate this part.

Leonard Erickson

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Aug 14, 2001, 8:56:21 PM8/14/01
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:19:35 -0500, "[tluA ssuR] kcartahereW"
<really.not@home> wrote:

>The postings cite yahoo addresses, but the headers show paths that
>originate from Roadrunner; it has become apparent that Roadrunner is
>incapable of dealing with the problem effectively; system admins have
>contacted Roadrunner's admins repeatedly about this, and all that I
>have seen thus far in the way of action from RR is a temporary
>shutdown of an individual abused server here and there; they have
>failed to take the really *needed* step of securing their systems
>against unauthorized usage.

Well, I suspect they'd get the idea if some ISPs started sending them
*bills* for the time it takes do deal with these and the bandwidth
that's wasted by them.

If that fails, it may be time to UDP Roadrunner...

Leonard Erickson (aka Nemo) kal...@krypton.rain.com
"No, I will _not_ move your planet... What do you want to move it _for_?
It's fine right where it is!"
-- Dairine Callahan, Wizard (no relation)

Leonard Erickson

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Aug 14, 2001, 8:56:23 PM8/14/01
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Sorry, they show up there too.

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