A sad toast
rincewind
a second and makes a toast.
"And so we see that Maine has chosen fear over reason, knee-jerk
reaction over thought and has taken it's place with quite a few other
states marching steadfastly into the Nineteenth Century! My toast is
to those gay people of Maine who thought they were actually going to
get real compassion!"
Jim Hetley
They did get real compassion. Just, 47% of the population . . .
The "civil rights" movement got started with court cases, long before
any majority-rule vote would have granted equality to blacks. School
desegregation involved "activist judges making new law and cramming
social change down the throat of an unwilling public."
Jim
(saddened resident of Maine)
David
<edrh...@hotmail.com> typed:
I'll toast to that.
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David
No email replies please.
Work consists of whatever a body is obliged to do. Play consists of
whatever a body is not obliged to do. -- Mark Twain
Tom the Alien Cat
I will toast them, too. They have longer to wait, now. It is
bittersweet that I've found people in the gay situation can be pretty
practical, in the face of a whole system that is aimed dead against
them, but what bothers me is what responsibility the majority voters
will continue to have to bear for continuing this injustice. Friends
here in the Carolinas are sometimes unwilling to learn about their
ancesters from the 1800s, because of the real chance they participated
in the slavery thing. A generation from now, young kids may be asking
their parents "What were you thinking? Are you ashamed?" or "I dread
to ask which way you voted, Dad".
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tom tac
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The real and lasting victories are those of peace, and not of war.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Margo
It is sad, but IMO it is a setback, not a defeat.
Onward to justice and victory!
>>>>>>>>>>>>Crash<<<<<<<<<<<
Margo
Kay Shapero
@v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, edrh...@hotmail.com says...
The kittycat picks up a shotglass of Tully and downs it, then follows
the toast.
Nearly half the state voted against the thing which is at least a start.
Like the Civil Rights movement, like the battle for women to get the
vote, like many another prececent it takes time - but you've got to keep
on pushing.
To all the 'second class citizens' of yesterday, today, and .. I'd say
tomorrow but what I really want is that we humans quit DOING that to
each other by then.
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Kay Shapero
address munged, email kay at following domain
http://www.kayshapero.net
ka.mi...@gmail.com
Just water today, thanks.
47% of Maine voters backed equality. That's
a lot more than it would have been twenty, ten,
five or even just one year ago.
Exit polls are hard to find, but University of Maine
Orono campus was 81% to defeat Prop 1.
It is just a matter of time. I too am sad for Mainers
who have been denied again, and told to wait some
more - that their time to be treated as equals must
wait. But they are winning the fight, and some day,
some day soon by the looks of it, they shall prevail.
To the Future!
< < < CRASH > > >
Magus Firecow.
moonstorm
>And I can still remember "White" and "Colored" water fountains at the
>Memphis bus station, so it hasn't been so very long.
>
>To everybody who is .....erm...different!
>
>######CRASH######
>
>Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
>Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
And I can still recall my shock in moving from Seattle to Topeka
Kansas in 1954 and finding water fountains labeled "white" and
"colored', and that dark skinned people were required to 'step to the
back of the bus'! The main segregation in the Pacifi Northwest back
then was against the Native Americans. The 'drunken war-whoops' as
they were referred to. I can't help but wonder WHY we have to have
others to dislike?
Wes Struebing
Joining Rincewind in that toast, the Graybeard takes his mug and
raises it in that direction.
(sending commiseration, as well)
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Wes Struebing
wrote:
Good point, Margo! The fact that the legislature voted it into law
(before this popular vote - popular in the sense of the people voting)
is an indication that [I hope!] it is coming.
Jim Hetley
>
> Good point, Margo! The fact that the legislature voted it into law
> (before this popular vote - popular in the sense of the people voting)
> is an indication that [I hope!] it is coming.
> --
Passed by the legislature and signed by the governor. Then vetoed by
the Bishop of Portland . . .
Jim
Kathy Fitz
friends, and their neighbors. This defeat was a terrible
disappointment, but the demographics make it clear that eventual
victory is inevitable.
We have come so far already -- even 10 or 15 years ago, this
conversation would never have happened. The wheel that turns progress
into history may turn slowly at times, but it cannot be stopped.
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--Kathy
0mn1vore
Easier than sorting out your own problems. At least it looks easier.
Oh well,
Patrick.
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but fix the (a) and the comma first.
"People everywhere enjoy believing things that they know are
not true. It spares them the ordeal of thinking for themselves
and taking responsibility for what they know."
[Brook Atkinson, "Once Around the Sun"]
Margo
Huh! Nice separation of church and state there...
Jim Hetley
We noticed.
Jim
Margo
I know...
I was just emphasizing the irony with something other than a "me too".
Wes Struebing
As did others...
Desideria
wrote:
>In <dvn6f5tiss0qslhf0...@4ax.com> Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:34:47 -0800, moonstorm said:
>
>>
>>>And I can still remember "White" and "Colored" water fountains at the
>>>Memphis bus station, so it hasn't been so very long.
>>>
>>>To everybody who is .....erm...different!
>>>
>>>######CRASH######
>>>
>>>Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
>>>Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
>>
>> And I can still recall my shock in moving from Seattle to Topeka
>> Kansas in 1954 and finding water fountains labeled "white" and
>> "colored', and that dark skinned people were required to 'step to the
>> back of the bus'! The main segregation in the Pacifi Northwest back
>> then was against the Native Americans. The 'drunken war-whoops' as
>> they were referred to. I can't help but wonder WHY we have to have
>> others to dislike?
>
>Easier than sorting out your own problems. At least it looks easier.
>
>
>
>Oh well,
>
>Patrick.
(bounce, bounce, bounce)
OMNI!!!!
(sends hugs if you wish them)
Desideria
Phatchick
>The main segregation in the Pacifi Northwest back
> then was against the Native Americans. The 'drunken war-whoops' as
> they were referred to. I can't help but wonder WHY we have to have
> others to dislike?
We had similar issues with whites/native americans in Wisconsin when I
was a kid. ANYONE who lived on a reservation was almost automatically
looked down on for all the standard stereotypical reasons. A LOT of
that has changed since the casinos came in, apparently money talks
rather loudly.
Phatchick
Vox constupro tamen absolute vox est vere frigus.