It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
Anyone else? (more accurately, who else?)
-denny- -- "...our dignity, our free institutions and the peace and welfare of this and coming generations of Americans will be secure only as we cling to the watchword of true patriotism: 'Our country--when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right.'" - Carl Schurz, in 1899
Denny Wheeler <den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> wrote: >It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm >watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
>So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
>Anyone else? >(more accurately, who else?)
I'll tune in when the News Hour finishes (5 minutes or so). -- Clovis Man (aka George Ruch) "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishible from magic." Arthur C. Clarke
<den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> wrote: >It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm >watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
>So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
>Anyone else? >(more accurately, who else?)
No US channels over here - took a look at Huffington and the msnbc countdown. And now it is time to sleep, almost 3 o'clock.
(Btw what use it is to vote, if the Electoral college can overrule the popular vote? Why not just use the popular vote like it is done everywhere a.f.a.i.k. ? I really understand less of your system every day...)
Goodnight ;o)
-- "He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless, still dead."
Denny Wheeler wrote: > It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm > watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
> So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
> Anyone else? > (more accurately, who else?)
Me. I have a small TV on the back corner of my desk so I can watch/listen while I'm working, and for once I haven't changed channels (Nothing else on tonight, anyway.)
-- Rowan Hawthorn
"Occasionally, I'm callous and strange." - Willow Rosenberg, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
>>It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm >>watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
>>So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
>>Anyone else? >>(more accurately, who else?)
>I'll tune in when the News Hour finishes (5 minutes or so).
There are several 'live' maps online. I have a number of 'em open: electoral-vote.com one from the Belfast Telegraph CNN and maybe the best, NPR.
-denny- -- "...our dignity, our free institutions and the peace and welfare of this and coming generations of Americans will be secure only as we cling to the watchword of true patriotism: 'Our country--when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right.'" - Carl Schurz, in 1899
I am watching Sean K. of Kansas, the Xkcd political guy. I contributed slightly more than $8 to his campaign. Follow the results by using the bottom of this page: http://www.kssos.org/ent/johnson.html Sean
<den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> wrote: >It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm >watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
>So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
>Anyone else? >(more accurately, who else?)
You bet.
(and Obama has won both Penn. & Ohio) And New Mexico. --
Denny Wheeler wrote: > watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
... who else?)
I've been so nervous about terrible surprises in this vote, awe're glued to the tube here in what a friend calls the "Specific Time Zone."
Emailed an old chum that while we wait and watch, the youngster who spends one night a week here is using a game website that required him to put in a password.
"How do you spend roffelmauow?" he inquired. We looked at each other, then the kid, and finally worked out that the keyword he needed was ROFLMAO. Seems odd, having to spell it out. Still, when my daughter arrived at college seven years go she met a roommate who in moments of amusement would say "LOL," as if it were a regular word, rhymed with stall or doll.
Since I'm also at the laptop skimming vote stories, I sent the story to a friend, who responds:
I'm taking the traditional Christmas approach to the elections: I'm not watching news tonight, so I'll wake up tomorrow and be eager to find out what Santa left under the tree: Barack or John. If it's not Barack, I'm not leaving cookies and milk out next time. How many more votes do you suppose he'd get if his name was O'Bama?
My response to the friend, of course: ROFFELMAUOW!
On Nov 4, 4:32 pm, Denny Wheeler <den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> wrote:
> It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm > watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
> So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
> Anyone else? > (more accurately, who else?)
Eye yam, eye yam. I'm in my PJs, curled on the sofa, laptop on (to the sites mentioned elsethread, plus www.pollster.com and facebook) with my son and both dogs and a plate of crackers and cheese (carbs be damned tonight -- either way, I'll need them -- either as comfort or celebration!). I've got my Obama t-shirt to wear tomorrow (under a sweater -- we're not allowed to wear political garb in the classroom).
I'm repeating to myself, "you may not gloat, you may not gloat, you may not gloat...". I have to be nice and I have to be the bigger, more mature person. I have to work with her brother...I work with her brother...be nice...
I won't relax about it until we're a year into his presidency :-)
> On Nov 4, 4:32 pm, Denny Wheeler <den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> > wrote:
> > It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm > > watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
> > So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
> > Anyone else? > > (more accurately, who else?)
> Eye yam, eye yam. I'm in my PJs, curled on the sofa, laptop on (to > the sites mentioned elsethread, pluswww.pollster.comand facebook) > with my son and both dogs and a plate of crackers and cheese (carbs be > damned tonight -- either way, I'll need them -- either as comfort or > celebration!). I've got my Obama t-shirt to wear tomorrow (under a > sweater -- we're not allowed to wear political garb in the > classroom).
> I'm repeating to myself, "you may not gloat, you may not gloat, you > may not gloat...". I have to be nice and I have to be the bigger, > more mature person. I have to work with her brother...I work with her > brother...be nice...
> I won't relax about it until we're a year into his presidency :-)
> Erin
With the lost of the north (PA, OH, as well as NY, IA, NM, MN, Wi, and the whole north east) McCain needs California And he will not get it. if the results go the way they are predicted, Obama has just unofficially won.
> It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm > watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
> So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
> Anyone else? > (more accurately, who else?)
> -denny-
Of course.
It's kind of like running your car off the road in the mountains- You know the impact at the bottom is coming, you know it's going to hurt, and you can't do anything about it at this point, but you can't close your eyes, either.
For the record, the last Democrat I supported as President got his head blown off in Dallas in 1963. I wish Mr.Obama better luck, for the sake of the country. The only thing that concerns me more than President Obama is the idea of "President Biden".
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go drape a black ribbon around the flag on the wall and find that bottle of Bushmills...
On Nov 4, 9:46 pm, Sean Cleary <seanearly...@juno.com> wrote:
> I am watching Sean K. of Kansas, the Xkcd political guy. > I contributed slightly more than $8 to his campaign. > Follow the results by using the bottom of this page:http://www.kssos.org/ent/johnson.html > Sean
Wait, what? What about Xkcd? I didn't know about that!
--Kathy, watching CNN's cool toys on the TV and msn.com on the computer.
>>It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm >>watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
>>So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
>>Anyone else? >>(more accurately, who else?)
>You bet.
>(and Obama has won both Penn. & Ohio) And New Mexico.
The New Mexico vote is following the exit poll projections. Currently 55% Obama, 44% McCain with 1/3 of the precincts reporting.
Yahoo/AP has the electoral vote race projected as Obama: 324, McCain 124.
Rep. (now Senator-Elect) Tom Udall (D) is doing his acceptance speech on KOB-TV. He's replacing Sen. Pete Domineci (R), who is retiring for health reasons. -- Clovis Man (aka George Ruch) "New! Do-it-yourself autopsy kits! Be the first on your block to get one!" (Stolen with pride from alt.folklore.urban)
On Nov 4, 6:46 pm, Sean Cleary <seanearly...@juno.com> wrote:
> I am watching Sean K. of Kansas, the Xkcd political guy. > I contributed slightly more than $8 to his campaign. > Follow the results by using the bottom of this page:http://www.kssos.org/ent/johnson.html > Sean
He is listed in the contest for state rep district 15 fyi. Sean
> On Nov 4, 7:33 pm, Erin <karenan...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 4, 4:32 pm, Denny Wheeler <den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> > > wrote:
> > > It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm > > > watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
> > > So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
> > Eye yam, eye yam. I'm in my PJs, curled on the sofa, laptop on (to > > the sites mentioned elsethread, pluswww.pollster.comandfacebook) > > with my son and both dogs and a plate of crackers and cheese (carbs be > > damned tonight -- either way, I'll need them -- either as comfort or > > celebration!). I've got my Obama t-shirt to wear tomorrow (under a > > sweater -- we're not allowed to wear political garb in the > > classroom).
> > I'm repeating to myself, "you may not gloat, you may not gloat, you > > may not gloat...". I have to be nice and I have to be the bigger, > > more mature person. I have to work with her brother...I work with her > > brother...be nice...
> > I won't relax about it until we're a year into his presidency :-)
> > Erin
> With the lost of the north (PA, OH, as well as NY, IA, NM, MN, Wi, > and the whole north east) > McCain needs California > And he will not get it. > if the results go the way they are predicted, > Obama has just unofficially won.
Google has just added in CA, OR, WA as expected, FL and VA as not really for sure expected. Obama projected to have (over) 324 votes.
> On Nov 4, 7:52 pm, Sean Cleary <seanearly...@juno.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 4, 7:33 pm, Erin <karenan...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Nov 4, 4:32 pm, Denny Wheeler <den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> > > > wrote:
> > > > It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm > > > > watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
> > > > So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
> > > Eye yam, eye yam. I'm in my PJs, curled on the sofa, laptop on (to > > > the sites mentioned elsethread, pluswww.pollster.comandfacebook) > > > with my son and both dogs and a plate of crackers and cheese (carbs be > > > damned tonight -- either way, I'll need them -- either as comfort or > > > celebration!). I've got my Obama t-shirt to wear tomorrow (under a > > > sweater -- we're not allowed to wear political garb in the > > > classroom).
> > > I'm repeating to myself, "you may not gloat, you may not gloat, you > > > may not gloat...". I have to be nice and I have to be the bigger, > > > more mature person. I have to work with her brother...I work with her > > > brother...be nice...
> > > I won't relax about it until we're a year into his presidency :-)
> > > Erin
> > With the lost of the north (PA, OH, as well as NY, IA, NM, MN, Wi, > > and the whole north east) > > McCain needs California > > And he will not get it. > > if the results go the way they are predicted, > > Obama has just unofficially won.
> Google has just added in CA, OR, WA as expected, FL and VA as not > really for sure expected. > Obama projected to have (over) 324 votes.
And all others, either with california added or not, will total over 270 with california. So I am going off to play somewhere else, But thank you for being there. Sean
> On Nov 4, 4:32 pm, Denny Wheeler <den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> > wrote:
> > It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm > > watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
> > So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
> > Anyone else? > > (more accurately, who else?)
> Eye yam, eye yam. I'm in my PJs, curled on the sofa, laptop on (to > the sites mentioned elsethread, pluswww.pollster.comand facebook) > with my son and both dogs and a plate of crackers and cheese (carbs be > damned tonight -- either way, I'll need them -- either as comfort or > celebration!). I've got my Obama t-shirt to wear tomorrow (under a > sweater -- we're not allowed to wear political garb in the > classroom).
> I'm repeating to myself, "you may not gloat, you may not gloat, you > may not gloat...". I have to be nice and I have to be the bigger, > more mature person. I have to work with her brother...I work with her > brother...be nice...
> I won't relax about it until we're a year into his presidency :-)
> Erin
So, now that it's official, I STILL can't gloat...dang, being the bigger person stinks :-)
I have to say, the concession speech McCain is giving now, is perhaps the best speech I've heard him give in the past 2 years.
<karenan...@hushmail.com> wrote: >On Nov 4, 4:32 pm, Denny Wheeler <den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> >wrote: >> It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm >> watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
>> So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
>> Anyone else? >> (more accurately, who else?)
>Eye yam, eye yam. I'm in my PJs, curled on the sofa, laptop on (to >the sites mentioned elsethread, plus www.pollster.com and facebook) >with my son and both dogs and a plate of crackers and cheese (carbs be >damned tonight -- either way, I'll need them -- either as comfort or >celebration!). I've got my Obama t-shirt to wear tomorrow (under a >sweater -- we're not allowed to wear political garb in the >classroom).
>I'm repeating to myself, "you may not gloat, you may not gloat, you >may not gloat...". I have to be nice and I have to be the bigger, >more mature person. I have to work with her brother...I work with her >brother...be nice...
*chortle*!!! (something most of us don't have to deal with...)
> On Nov 4, 4:32 pm, Denny Wheeler <den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> > wrote:
> > It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm > > watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
> > So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
> > Anyone else? > > (more accurately, who else?)
> Eye yam, eye yam. I'm in my PJs, curled on the sofa, laptop on (to > the sites mentioned elsethread, pluswww.pollster.comand facebook) > with my son and both dogs and a plate of crackers and cheese (carbs be > damned tonight -- either way, I'll need them -- either as comfort or > celebration!). I've got my Obama t-shirt to wear tomorrow (under a > sweater -- we're not allowed to wear political garb in the > classroom).
> I'm repeating to myself, "you may not gloat, you may not gloat, you > may not gloat...". I have to be nice and I have to be the bigger, > more mature person. I have to work with her brother...I work with her > brother...be nice...
> I won't relax about it until we're a year into his presidency :-)
> Erin
I've been following the Google electoral map while on the phone with a friend of mine in California who is watching the election on TV. And no, I'm not relaxed yet either. What happened in 2000 and 2004 is making me heartily paranoid.
<den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> wrote: >It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm >watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
>So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
>Anyone else? >(more accurately, who else?)
>-denny-
I've been watching the PBS News coverage since 7 (MST). Impressive.
I just heard McCain's concession speech. I'll need to think about it but I was very impressed with his grace in defeat, his willingness to support Obama, and his hushing of the boos from the crowd. Really admirable! --
John the Wysard JVinson *at* Wysard Of Info *dot* com
> On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:32:36 -0800, Denny Wheeler
> <den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> wrote: > >It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm > >watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
> >So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
> >Anyone else? > >(more accurately, who else?)
> >-denny-
> I've been watching the PBS News coverage since 7 (MST). Impressive.
> I just heard McCain's concession speech. I'll need to think about it but I was > very impressed with his grace in defeat, his willingness to support Obama, and > his hushing of the boos from the crowd. Really admirable!
My son and I just said the same thing -- "that's the best speech I've heard him give during the entire campaign."
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:04:52 +0100, Tonnie <tonn...@NOgmail.com> wrote: >(Btw what use it is to vote, if the Electoral college can overrule the >popular vote?
It could theoretically, but in practice it won't (can't) happen. Most states are "winner take all" so if (say) Iowa goes 51% for Obama and 49% for McCain, all of its electoral college votes go for Obama; this can (and has) lead to minority candidates getting elected - but it is NOT a question of the Electoral College voting against the will of the people. --
John the Wysard JVinson *at* Wysard Of Info *dot* com
Erin <karenan...@hushmail.com> wrote: >On Nov 4, 7:33 pm, John W. Vinson <jvinson@STOP_SPAM.WysardOfInfo.com> >wrote: >> On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:32:36 -0800, Denny Wheeler >> <den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> wrote: >> >It's early--just a hair past 5:30 Pacific (8:30 Eastern) time--but I'm >> >watching the election results avidly for the first time in many years.
>> >So far I've seen not much surprising, but then it is early.
>> >Anyone else? >> >(more accurately, who else?)
>> I've been watching the PBS News coverage since 7 (MST). Impressive.
>> I just heard McCain's concession speech. I'll need to think about it but I was >> very impressed with his grace in defeat, his willingness to support Obama, and >> his hushing of the boos from the crowd. Really admirable!
>My son and I just said the same thing -- "that's the best speech I've >heard him give during the entire campaign."
If he'd only done that *during* the campaign. -- Clovis Man (aka George Ruch) "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishible from magic." Arthur C. Clarke
On Nov 4, 7:57 pm, Kathy Fitz <katerin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 4, 9:46 pm, Sean Cleary <seanearly...@juno.com> wrote:
> > I am watching Sean K. of Kansas, the Xkcd political guy. > > I contributed slightly more than $8 to his campaign. > > Follow the results by using the bottom of this page:http://www.kssos.org/ent/johnson.html > > Sean
> Wait, what? What about Xkcd? I didn't know about that!
> --Kathy, watching CNN's cool toys on the TV and msn.com on the > computer.
google xkcd kansas political race or some such, xkcd kansas might be enough. Fun stuff. And real politics. Los Angeles times carried an article on the guy, and may have substantially contributed to his publicity and there by to his funds. He is losing by about 50 votes with less than 5% of the votes in. sean