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D.J.

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Nov 9, 2008, 3:14:51 PM11/9/08
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I just tried to look up an old post of mine, a poem, and google's
newsgroup search seems to be broken.

It says no documents found, when I just used the newsgroup name,
alt.callahans

The search page certainly looks different. This is the url I wound
up at, http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en&q=&hl=en&

Anyone else have this problem today ?

Thanks,
D.J.
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D.J.

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Nov 9, 2008, 3:47:21 PM11/9/08
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google's new advanced search for newsgroup posts has to have been
written by complete idiots. The one they had as late as 2 weeks ago
worked fine. Now they have a piece of garbage in its place.

I finally found this page:
http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?

If you type in alt.callahans, you get crap that can only be searched
by subject, not date. Although you can order it in date sequence.
But if you just want to look at a particular year, no go.

If someone could kindly email me a location, etc. for an
alt.callahans archive I would appreciate it. Google has flunked out
of the newsgroup archive 'business' by gross idiocy.

D.J.
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Barbara Bailey

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Nov 9, 2008, 4:01:17 PM11/9/08
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D.J. <solo...@cableone.net> wrote in
news:0pieh45ju0spnat5c...@4ax.com:

>
> google's new advanced search for newsgroup posts has to have been
> written by complete idiots. The one they had as late as 2 weeks ago
> worked fine. Now they have a piece of garbage in its place.
>
> I finally found this page:
> http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?
>
> If you type in alt.callahans, you get crap that can only be searched
> by subject, not date. Although you can order it in date sequence.
> But if you just want to look at a particular year, no go.
>
> If someone could kindly email me a location, etc. for an
> alt.callahans archive I would appreciate it. Google has flunked out
> of the newsgroup archive 'business' by gross idiocy.

I've never been successful with the Groups Advanced Search; I just go to
Groups, then down at the bottom of that page go to "All Usenet" then scroll
to "alt" and again to get to "alt.callahans" then "search within this
group".

Tom the Alien Cat

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Nov 9, 2008, 5:35:31 PM11/9/08
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Yes, I have noticed real difficulty lately finding things with "Search
this group" this week.

As you say, it worked just fine before.

Tom

Summer Storms

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Nov 9, 2008, 5:50:44 PM11/9/08
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On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:14:51 -0600, D.J. <solo...@cableone.net>
wrote:

>
>I just tried to look up an old post of mine, a poem, and google's
>newsgroup search seems to be broken.
>
>It says no documents found, when I just used the newsgroup name,
>alt.callahans
>
>The search page certainly looks different. This is the url I wound
>up at, http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en&q=&hl=en&
>
>Anyone else have this problem today ?
>
>Thanks,
>D.J.

Interestingly enough, Teresa Nielsen Hayden appears to be having the
same problem, as described on a brand-new entry over on Making Light.

http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/010783.html

You might check there for some additional information and possible
solutions. The Fluorosphere is often quite helpful, nearly rivaling
the Patrons of the Place at times.

(Besides, it's a good site with a great group of folks.)
--

(Remove dotty rant to reply.)

"Ignorance is an abuse of free will." - comedian Chris Bliss

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Summer Storms

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Nov 9, 2008, 6:06:32 PM11/9/08
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On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:50:44 -0500, Summer Storms
<summerbyt...@gRANT.DOTnet> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:14:51 -0600, D.J. <solo...@cableone.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>I just tried to look up an old post of mine, a poem, and google's
>>newsgroup search seems to be broken.
>>
>>It says no documents found, when I just used the newsgroup name,
>>alt.callahans
>>
>>The search page certainly looks different. This is the url I wound
>>up at, http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en&q=&hl=en&
>>
>>Anyone else have this problem today ?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>D.J.
>
>Interestingly enough, Teresa Nielsen Hayden appears to be having the
>same problem, as described on a brand-new entry over on Making Light.
>
>http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/010783.html
>
>You might check there for some additional information and possible
>solutions. The Fluorosphere is often quite helpful, nearly rivaling
>the Patrons of the Place at times.
>
>(Besides, it's a good site with a great group of folks.)

AND... in reading through the thread on Making Light (psst, by the
way, you recognize the name of the proprietress, right? From Tor
Books, Spider's publisher?), I have run across the following links
posted by a longtime Fluorospherian, one Jon Meltzer. According to
Jon, Slashdot has a story on this problem, here:

http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/09/2029206&from=rss

and if you go to the following link (which takes you to a post in the
comments on the Slashdot story), there are instructions on how to work
around the issue for now:

http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1023305&cid=25697243

Tonnie

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Nov 9, 2008, 6:32:26 PM11/9/08
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On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:47:21 -0600, D.J. <solo...@cableone.net>
wrote:

>
>google's new advanced search for newsgroup posts has to have been
>written by complete idiots. The one they had as late as 2 weeks ago
>worked fine. Now they have a piece of garbage in its place.
>
>I finally found this page:
>http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?
>
>If you type in alt.callahans, you get crap that can only be searched
>by subject, not date. Although you can order it in date sequence.
>But if you just want to look at a particular year, no go.
>
>If someone could kindly email me a location, etc. for an
>alt.callahans archive I would appreciate it. Google has flunked out
>of the newsgroup archive 'business' by gross idiocy.
>

There is an archive in Macedonia:
http://www.macedonia.eu.org/scripts/dnewsweb.exe?cmd=xover&group=alt.callahans&utag=

Didn't check it yet - my Macedonian is not that good ;o))
But you might be able to search... just give it a try.

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Achard

John W. Vinson

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Nov 10, 2008, 1:09:26 AM11/10/08
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On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:14:51 -0600, D.J. <solo...@cableone.net> wrote:

>I just tried to look up an old post of mine, a poem, and google's
>newsgroup search seems to be broken.
>
>It says no documents found, when I just used the newsgroup name,
>alt.callahans
>
>The search page certainly looks different. This is the url I wound
>up at, http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en&q=&hl=en&
>
>Anyone else have this problem today ?

There's been a major change ... for the worse, apparently... in Google Groups
search. There are a lot of Microsoft MVPs complaining about it on the private
groups.

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Denny Wheeler

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Nov 10, 2008, 11:25:54 PM11/10/08
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There's been continual degredation ever since Google took it over from
Deja News. And, unfortunately, the other reasonably complete usenet
archive (I forget its name now) went away about the same time Google
goobled Deja News.

-denny-
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Robert Miles

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Nov 15, 2008, 8:17:33 PM11/15/08
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Ive noticed that in a regular google search, it won't look at
newsgroups unless you put "newsgroup " before the newsgroup
name. However, it will still find any web sites that happened to
save that newsgroup post, except for the Google Group site.

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Robert Miles

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Nov 15, 2008, 8:25:57 PM11/15/08
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"D.J." <solo...@cableone.net> wrote in message
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>
> google's new advanced search for newsgroup posts has to have been
> written by complete idiots. The one they had as late as 2 weeks ago
> worked fine. Now they have a piece of garbage in its place.
>
> I finally found this page:
> http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?
>
> If you type in alt.callahans, you get crap that can only be searched
> by subject, not date. Although you can order it in date sequence.
> But if you just want to look at a particular year, no go.
>
> If someone could kindly email me a location, etc. for an
> alt.callahans archive I would appreciate it. Google has flunked out
> of the newsgroup archive 'business' by gross idiocy.
>
> D.J.
> --
You might want to tell them that, and also tell them that you don't like
them allowing spammers to use Google Groups to clutter up the rest
of Usenet with spam. Most of the spam I see was posted through
Google Groups. I've read that they try to protect their own users
from spam, but they seem to be at least a month behind in doing
anything to protect the rest of Usenet.

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