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> On Nov 5, 7:04 pm, Alison Hiltabidle <ahiltabi...@verizon.net> wrote: >> saavik explained :
>>> Alison Hiltabidle wrote: >>>> After serious thinking Marten Kemp wrote : >>>>> Jette wrote: >>>>>> Marten Kemp wrote: >>>>>>> Barack Obama is President-Elect. >>>>>> I wonder if the Secret Service is hiring new staff? >>>>> I'm too old, but I can see myself taking a bullet for that guy. >>>> Why?
>>> Oh, maybe because he is capable of doing great things? (read that whichever >>> way you wish)
>>> Margo
>> or not. Neither candidate gave me warm fuzzies.
> No matter who we voted for, we must be proud of the historic moment.
> Juan Williams said it, IMO, best:
> "Kids in this country are told that each of them can grow up to be > president. Black kids never saw themselves as part of that group. > Today they do"
> cheers
> oz, who didn't vote for him, but wish him all the best
I'm more concerned about the capability of the candidate than the color of his skin. I don't see it historic if the person is incapable of the job, regardless of color. Or sex. Or religion. Ad nauseum.
>MajorOz expressed precisely : >> On Nov 5, 7:04 pm, Alison Hiltabidle <ahiltabi...@verizon.net> wrote: >>> saavik explained :
>>>> Alison Hiltabidle wrote: >>>>> After serious thinking Marten Kemp wrote : >>>>>> Jette wrote: >>>>>>> Marten Kemp wrote: >>>>>>>> Barack Obama is President-Elect. >>>>>>> I wonder if the Secret Service is hiring new staff? >>>>>> I'm too old, but I can see myself taking a bullet for that guy. >>>>> Why?
>>>> Oh, maybe because he is capable of doing great things? (read that whichever >>>> way you wish)
>>>> Margo
>>> or not. Neither candidate gave me warm fuzzies.
>> No matter who we voted for, we must be proud of the historic moment.
>> Juan Williams said it, IMO, best:
>> "Kids in this country are told that each of them can grow up to be >> president. Black kids never saw themselves as part of that group. >> Today they do"
>> cheers
>> oz, who didn't vote for him, but wish him all the best
>I'm more concerned about the capability of the candidate than the color >of his skin. I don't see it historic if the person is incapable of the >job, regardless of color. Or sex. Or religion. Ad nauseum.
Bush? -- David No email replies please. So I'm right. Period. Anyone who believes different is retarded. (Stolen from JJRussell, alt.funnytown) (Originally posted by Jami JoAnne in alt.folklore.urban)
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:02:00 -0500, Alison Hiltabidle > <ahiltabi...@verizon.net> typed furiously:
>> MajorOz expressed precisely : >>> On Nov 5, 7:04 pm, Alison Hiltabidle <ahiltabi...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>> saavik explained :
>>>>> Alison Hiltabidle wrote: >>>>>> After serious thinking Marten Kemp wrote : >>>>>>> Jette wrote: >>>>>>>> Marten Kemp wrote: >>>>>>>>> Barack Obama is President-Elect. >>>>>>>> I wonder if the Secret Service is hiring new staff? >>>>>>> I'm too old, but I can see myself taking a bullet for that guy. >>>>>> Why?
>>>>> Oh, maybe because he is capable of doing great things? (read that >>>>> whichever way you wish)
>>>>> Margo
>>>> or not. Neither candidate gave me warm fuzzies.
>>> No matter who we voted for, we must be proud of the historic moment.
>>> Juan Williams said it, IMO, best:
>>> "Kids in this country are told that each of them can grow up to be >>> president. Black kids never saw themselves as part of that group. >>> Today they do"
>>> cheers
>>> oz, who didn't vote for him, but wish him all the best
>> I'm more concerned about the capability of the candidate than the color >> of his skin. I don't see it historic if the person is incapable of the >> job, regardless of color. Or sex. Or religion. Ad nauseum.
<ahiltabi...@verizon.net> wrote: >>> or not. Neither candidate gave me warm fuzzies.
>> No matter who we voted for, we must be proud of the historic moment.
>> Juan Williams said it, IMO, best:
>> "Kids in this country are told that each of them can grow up to be >> president. Black kids never saw themselves as part of that group. >> Today they do"
>> cheers
>> oz, who didn't vote for him, but wish him all the best
>I'm more concerned about the capability of the candidate than the color >of his skin. I don't see it historic if the person is incapable of the >job, regardless of color. Or sex. Or religion. Ad nauseum.
It's historic regardless of the man's ability. If you don't see that, you need to give the horse back her blinkers.
I for one voted for Obama because I think he does have a lot of ability--more than I've seen in a candidate for many years.
But--it's a damn' remarkable thing that any man of color ('man' in the sense of 'person' not of 'male') could be elected to the Presidency.
-denny- -- "...our dignity, our free institutions and the peace and welfare of this and coming generations of Americans will be secure only as we cling to the watchword of true patriotism: 'Our country--when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right.'" - Carl Schurz, in 1899
>And just think: Only 1460 days until the 2012 elections!
And just think: only 300-400 days 'til the campaigning for 2012 starts. <grump>
-denny- -- "...our dignity, our free institutions and the peace and welfare of this and coming generations of Americans will be secure only as we cling to the watchword of true patriotism: 'Our country--when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right.'" - Carl Schurz, in 1899
>>>> or not. Neither candidate gave me warm fuzzies.
>>> No matter who we voted for, we must be proud of the historic moment.
>>> Juan Williams said it, IMO, best:
>>> "Kids in this country are told that each of them can grow up to be >>> president. Black kids never saw themselves as part of that group. >>> Today they do"
>>> cheers
>>> oz, who didn't vote for him, but wish him all the best
>>I'm more concerned about the capability of the candidate than the color >>of his skin. I don't see it historic if the person is incapable of the >>job, regardless of color. Or sex. Or religion. Ad nauseum.
>It's historic regardless of the man's ability. If you don't see that, >you need to give the horse back her blinkers.
>I for one voted for Obama because I think he does have a lot of >ability--more than I've seen in a candidate for many years.
>But--it's a damn' remarkable thing that any man of color ('man' in the >sense of 'person' not of 'male') could be elected to the Presidency.
Now all you need to do is pass the last hurdles, elect a female and/or a coloured female. -- David No email replies please. Your mode of life will be changed for the better because of good news soon.
>>>>> or not. Neither candidate gave me warm fuzzies.
>>>> No matter who we voted for, we must be proud of the historic moment.
>>>> Juan Williams said it, IMO, best:
>>>> "Kids in this country are told that each of them can grow up to be >>>> president. Black kids never saw themselves as part of that group. >>>> Today they do"
>>>> cheers
>>>> oz, who didn't vote for him, but wish him all the best
>>>I'm more concerned about the capability of the candidate than the color >>>of his skin. I don't see it historic if the person is incapable of the >>>job, regardless of color. Or sex. Or religion. Ad nauseum.
>>It's historic regardless of the man's ability. If you don't see that, >>you need to give the horse back her blinkers.
>>I for one voted for Obama because I think he does have a lot of >>ability--more than I've seen in a candidate for many years.
>>But--it's a damn' remarkable thing that any man of color ('man' in the >>sense of 'person' not of 'male') could be elected to the Presidency.
>Now all you need to do is pass the last hurdles, elect a female and/or >a coloured female.
Yeah. I told Denny I was conscious of a letdown after McCain conceded and Obama officially won. I suddenly realized that *I* would be cheering like those crowds--the way I did at the World Cup the American women won--if it had been the right *female* candidate who won.
For me to really feel represented, and to see the last hurdle overcome, I feel the need to have a woman president, but only one I can wholly support.
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:02:00 -0500, Alison Hiltabidle > <ahiltabi...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> or not. Neither candidate gave me warm fuzzies.
>>> No matter who we voted for, we must be proud of the historic moment.
>>> Juan Williams said it, IMO, best:
>>> "Kids in this country are told that each of them can grow up to be >>> president. Black kids never saw themselves as part of that group. >>> Today they do"
>>> cheers
>>> oz, who didn't vote for him, but wish him all the best
>> I'm more concerned about the capability of the candidate than the color >> of his skin. I don't see it historic if the person is incapable of the >> job, regardless of color. Or sex. Or religion. Ad nauseum.
> It's historic regardless of the man's ability. If you don't see that, > you need to give the horse back her blinkers.
> I for one voted for Obama because I think he does have a lot of > ability--more than I've seen in a candidate for many years.
> But--it's a damn' remarkable thing that any man of color ('man' in the > sense of 'person' not of 'male') could be elected to the Presidency.
> -denny-
But it shouldn't be. What should be important is the capability of the person in office, not the color, creed, sex, or religion of the person in office.
Alison Hiltabidle wrote: > Denny Wheeler brought next idea : > > Alison Hiltabidle wrote: > >> I'm more concerned about the capability of the candidate than > >> the color of his skin. I don't see it historic if the person > >> is incapable of the job, regardless of color. Or sex. Or > >> religion. Ad nauseum. > > It's historic regardless of the man's ability. If you don't > > see that, you need to give the horse back her blinkers. > > I for one voted for Obama because I think he does have a lot of > > ability--more than I've seen in a candidate for many years. > > But--it's a damn' remarkable thing that any man of color ('man' > > in the sense of 'person' not of 'male') could be elected to the > > Presidency. > But it shouldn't be. What should be important is the capability > of the person in office, not the color, creed, sex, or religion > of the person in office.
Probably you don't remember 1960 and the people that said we couldn't possibly have a President who was Roman Catholic. JFK proved that being RC was not a bar to the presidency. (He persuaded people to vote for him, and they proved it. Whichever.)
Yesterday, it was proved that African ancestry is not a bar either. It is wonderful - it is a thing to rejoice at - that this next step has been taken. It would not, could not, have happened in 1960.
JFK said (approximately) "I will not be the Catholic president; I will be the President, and I happen to be Catholic." Obama is the president who happens to be coloured, or of mixed race, or even black. He's not my president (because I'm now a British citizen) but he is president for all the US and represents every US citizen.
The fact that Hilary Clinton came so near to being nominated proves that gender is not a bar either.
Now if only stupidity, incompetence, and corruption were bars...
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