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Alexis

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Mar 29, 2006, 2:26:09 PM3/29/06
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I'm in a creative slump and I need some ideas, and sort of quickly :-)

One of our local bookstores is sponsoring an art project/contest to
coincide with the production of 'Cats' that is coming here next week.
We're reading the poems from the book and we're going to write our own
cinquains about either cats in general or any of the cats from the book
who are also in the musical. However, i'm looking to hopefully find
something "different" to do to illustrate our poems. Some different,
but not overly difficult, technique, maybe. I've done basic technique
lessons with them in wax relief (with watercolor over crayon), tempra
paint, chalk, oil pastels, and fingerpaint. My first idea was to give
them a choice between any of them to draw their interpretation of the
cats, but if anyone else has an idea for something new and different (I
know there are a LOT of folks here more visually creative and I am),
I'd love to hear your ideas.

TIA and drinks for anyone who has suggestions!

Alexis.

Queen Maggie

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Mar 29, 2006, 2:56:40 PM3/29/06
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How about having the class paint each other's faces as cats? You can use
basic tempera paints mixed with a little cold cream (I've done this many
times for festival and family face painting) draw them a template of what
they should do: a split lip line and whiskers, pink nose, add cat ears, and
you're good to go. They don't have to be particularly exact: they can do
the colors and such they'd like to have a cat be in their imaginations...
Just make sure that you have either cheap disposable paint brushes (dollar
store packs of the plastic ones) or just use Q-tips (to avoid transferring
individual's facial bacteria from one person to another with different
immunities)

Queen Maggie


Alexis

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Mar 29, 2006, 3:00:46 PM3/29/06
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Queen Maggie wrote:

<snip>

> >
> How about having the class paint each other's faces as cats? You can use
> basic tempera paints mixed with a little cold cream (I've done this many
> times for festival and family face painting) draw them a template of what
> they should do: a split lip line and whiskers, pink nose, add cat ears, and
> you're good to go. They don't have to be particularly exact: they can do
> the colors and such they'd like to have a cat be in their imaginations...
> Just make sure that you have either cheap disposable paint brushes (dollar
> store packs of the plastic ones) or just use Q-tips (to avoid transferring
> individual's facial bacteria from one person to another with different
> immunities)
>
> Queen Maggie

That's a *great* idea. I've never seen the cold cream/tempra paint
technique. thanks! If we do this (I'm not sure I'll be able to unless
I can get a parent in to help with it. My TA is out ill for a couple
of weeks), I'll try to post some pictures (and their associated poems)!

Alexis.

Queen Maggie

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Mar 29, 2006, 3:02:18 PM3/29/06
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Alexis wrote:

Ooh, another idea: potato stamping. take half a potato, carve the imprint
in it, dip and press... you could have some kids do ears, others eyes,
noses, lips, maybe paws, stripes, tails... and see what they come up with.
Or do a giant cooperative project on a big sheet of paper: get groups to do
parts that all come together. or use felt and make it like a (glued
together) quilt.
There's also tissue paper stained glass interpretations, or paper
mache(molded over balloons, say for the original shaping)

Queen Maggie

Rowan Hawthorn

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Mar 29, 2006, 3:17:05 PM3/29/06
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"How about: colored pencils (real ones, like the Prismacolor series,)
art markers, pen & ink, or even basic drawing pencil? For the
technically inclined, maybe Photoshopping feline images over human?"

--
Rowan Hawthorn

"Occasionally, I'm callous and strange." - Willow Rosenberg, "Buffy the
Vampire Slayer"

HangingJester

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Mar 29, 2006, 3:16:37 PM3/29/06
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How about:

a 3D rendering output to 2D?
Wire frame CAD?
Lithographs?
Done in comic book style?

~ Jester

Alexis

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Mar 29, 2006, 3:35:15 PM3/29/06
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I like these ideas, but I don't know anything about the first three.
Do you have the time to write out a description of how I might do them
with a class of 18 5- and 6-year-olds? I'd *love* to do something like
this -- unique and attention-grabbing (if not for this project, then
later down the line).

Thanks!

Alexis.

Alexis

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Mar 29, 2006, 3:39:58 PM3/29/06
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I would *love* to have some decent art colored pencils! Unfortunately,
that's never been in the budget -- anyone know a good way to use the
lower-end colored pencils (Crayola, fex) to get a different finish or
more high-end look?

I need to learn more about pen & ink technique myself (it's on my list
of Things To Learn). The photoshop idea is excellent. I don't yet my
kiddos up to that level (we've had limited computer lab time, and I've
been using it to focus on other things, and I only have Photoshop on my
teacher-computer). However, maybe I'll play with that idea myself a
little bit and just do a "demonstration" and whole-group project with
it.

thanks!

Alexis.

Larisa

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Mar 29, 2006, 3:44:57 PM3/29/06
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HangingJester wrote:

> How about:
>
> a 3D rendering output to 2D?
> Wire frame CAD?
> Lithographs?
> Done in comic book style?

Origami?
Papier-mache?
Quilting?
Paper-cutting?

LM

Rowan Hawthorn

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Mar 29, 2006, 4:30:24 PM3/29/06
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"The only thing I could suggest there would be to try using a paper with
less tooth so that the color goes on smoother (maybe even unmarked comic
artboards or something similar,) and maybe picking up a few
better-quality blender pencils to smooth it out even more. Also,
several of the brands make a 'student' grade of pencil that is quite a
bit less expensive than their 'professional' grade, and a 'scholastic'
grade that's even less. Check here:"

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V2C0311EC

Rae

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Mar 29, 2006, 6:15:22 PM3/29/06
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"Alexis" <alexisi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Hmm...I don't know if this is as good as the other suggestions, but I have a
neat book on paper mask making that just requires construction paper, glue
and popsicle sticks etc... Some of the templates/ideas are quite nice and
they have several cat faces to use. Like the face painting idea, the kids
could imagine what it would be like to *be* a cat. I can stretch my
computer skills by scanning and sending the instructions to you if you'd
like :-}

Rae


denaldo

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Mar 29, 2006, 9:44:26 PM3/29/06
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There is the 'Yankee Doodle' cat,
though he isn't very 'tony'.
Give the kid a paper,
and have him glue on macaroni.

Maybe a dried pea or bean,
whatever fits your groove.
To tape upon the fridge's door,
or hang up in the Louvre.

Spaghetti strands for whiskers,
rice for dainty claws,
(and since the tot will never eat them)
Lima beans for paws.

And when it looks most cattish,
and your little ones are through,
You can boil them all in water
for a yucky 'kitty' stew.

--
"Reginald wrote, 'Never be a pioneer. It is the early
Christian that gets the fattest lion.'" Saki
Send 'POINT'less replies to den...@ePOINTv1.net.

John Vinson

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Mar 30, 2006, 12:31:58 AM3/30/06
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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:44:26 -0600, denaldo <den...@ePOINTv1.net>
wrote:

>There is the 'Yankee Doodle' cat,
>though he isn't very 'tony'.
>Give the kid a paper,
>and have him glue on macaroni.
>
>Maybe a dried pea or bean,
>whatever fits your groove.
>To tape upon the fridge's door,
>or hang up in the Louvre.
>
>Spaghetti strands for whiskers,
>rice for dainty claws,
>(and since the tot will never eat them)
>Lima beans for paws.
>
>And when it looks most cattish,
>and your little ones are through,
>You can boil them all in water
>for a yucky 'kitty' stew.

<SNORK!>
<splutter>

"Barkeep... I'm paying for Denaldo's next three or four drinks, if
he'll permit. That's CLASSIC!"

John the Wysard jvinson *at* WysardOfInfo *dot* com

HangingJester

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Mar 30, 2006, 5:04:20 AM3/30/06
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Forget the 3D rendering and CAD. I did not realize that this artwork
would be created by 5-6 year old children, and this type of art program
is most likely beyond their current artistic abilities.

Lithographs are often named after the look of the lithograph printing
process. The original process creates a print in a pressing manner
somewhat like woodcuts did but the lithograph process is capable of much
finer detail.

Today it also can be interpreted as being a drawing method (usually done
with either ink or pencil,) that attempts to recreate the lithograph
appearance (Technically, these are not actually lithographs, but again
the purpose is to try to make it "look" like a lithograph). Shading is
typically done using a similar method throughout the work,
(line-shading, crosshatch, or pointillism). The initial printing of the
art was usually "black and white" but sometimes coloring would be added
later. Here are some examples:

http://www.jbroxic.com/Drawings/drawings.html
http://www.currierprints.com/MakingAPrint.htm

Of course a particular "comic book" style would be dependent on the
drawing methods of the cartoonist, but would include the use of framing
borders. With a few frames on the same page, it could depict a short
storyboard. The children could bring in a favorite comic book style of
art and use it's artistic styling methods as inspiration on how they can
draw their cat comics.

~ Jester

Alexis

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Mar 30, 2006, 10:33:43 AM3/30/06
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denaldo wrote:
>>
> There is the 'Yankee Doodle' cat,
> though he isn't very 'tony'.
> Give the kid a paper,
> and have him glue on macaroni.
>
> Maybe a dried pea or bean,
> whatever fits your groove.
> To tape upon the fridge's door,
> or hang up in the Louvre.
>
> Spaghetti strands for whiskers,
> rice for dainty claws,
> (and since the tot will never eat them)
> Lima beans for paws.
>
> And when it looks most cattish,
> and your little ones are through,
> You can boil them all in water
> for a yucky 'kitty' stew.
>

LOL -- and for that, allow me to sponsor your bartab!

May I steal-borrow-use this?

Thank you! What a perfect way to start my morning!

Alexis.

Alexis

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Mar 30, 2006, 10:40:10 AM3/30/06
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Rae wrote:> >
> Hmm...I don't know if this is as good as the other suggestions, but I have a
> neat book on paper mask making that just requires construction paper, glue
> and popsicle sticks etc... Some of the templates/ideas are quite nice and
> they have several cat faces to use. Like the face painting idea, the kids
> could imagine what it would be like to *be* a cat. I can stretch my
> computer skills by scanning and sending the instructions to you if you'd
> like :-}


If you're up to it, I'd love to see the templates. Thanks!

denaldo

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Mar 30, 2006, 3:33:14 PM3/30/06
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Alexis wrote:
> denaldo wrote:
> >>
> > There is the 'Yankee Doodle' cat,

<snip>

>
> LOL -- and for that, allow me to sponsor your bartab!
>
> May I steal-borrow-use this?
>
> Thank you! What a perfect way to start my morning!

Go right ahead. I had just read Ol' Possum's book again
last week or so, and a poetic response seemed called for..

Wesley Struebing

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Mar 30, 2006, 9:22:23 PM3/30/06
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(the Graybeard agrees) It's classic SOMETHING...!

<grins and adds some shekels to the wysard's monies for denaldo>

--

Wes Struebing

I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America,
and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples,
promising liberty and justice for all.

Alexis

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Mar 31, 2006, 1:38:11 AM3/31/06
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Well, I've gotta tell you -- I had the BEST response to this from my
students! Here's what I did (if you're at all interested in knowing
how your works get put to work <g>).

I copied the entire thing on to chart paper and gave my kiddos a chance
to come up with a highlighter to find and highight any words they were
already able to read. This accounted for about half of the poem. Then
we read it by reading *just* the words that we highlighted -- sort of a
MadLibs version, given all the missing words. It was something of a
do-it-yourself cloze exercise. Then, we went back and dissected the
unfamiliar words for sounds and context clues. Then, eventually, we
were able to read the entire thing.

As a response exercise, I had about 8 different types of pasta and rice
and beans out on trays for them to use to create their own cats. Some
of them are truly marvelous (I'll try to get decent pictures tomorrow).


The only hitch was when three trays (the rice, the lentils, and the
penne) got knocked off the table (it would be the rice!).

So, tomorrow I'm going to spray the pictures with shellac to,
hopefully, keep the pasta from falling off when they're hung up. Then
I'll send them off to the bookstore with their fingerpaints, their
poems (they wrote cinquains), and their photographs (after we face
paint) for their art display.

Thanks, everyone! There were a lot of great ideas -- I've got them
printed out for the next time (because there's *always* a next time for
new ideas).

Alexis.

Tim Merrigan

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Apr 9, 2006, 2:53:40 AM4/9/06
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You do know she's talking about a kindergarten class, don't you?
--

I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America,

and to the republic which it established, one nation, from many peoples,


promising liberty and justice for all.

Feel free to use the above variant pledge in your own postings.

Tim Merrigan

HangingJester

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Apr 9, 2006, 2:43:57 PM4/9/06
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At the time I posted that, I did not. Alexis' post only mentioned "local
bookstores" There was no indication in the original post that Alexis was
talking about having children in her class create the art.

~ Jester

Alexis

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Apr 9, 2006, 8:30:22 PM4/9/06
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HangingJester wrote:

<snip>

>> At the time I posted that, I did not. Alexis' post only mentioned "local
> bookstores" There was no indication in the original post that Alexis was
> talking about having children in her class create the art.
>
> ~ Jester

You're right -- I was unclear in my original post and I apologize for
that. It's not fair for me to ask for assistance without being more
clear on the parameters. I thought the ideas were great, but I didn't
know how to do any of the first three.

Our projects turned out great (the student poetry was excellent, their
illustrations were fun) and I brought 32 projects to the bookstore.
Unfortunately, none of my students won the Cats tickets -- I wasn't all
that impressed with the top three projects, but that's the way it goes!

Thank you to everyone who offered ideas!

Alexis

PS -- the face painting was wonderful. I did a lesson on proportion
and drawing faces, then the students used pastels to turn their picture
of a human face into one of a cat face (the pastels represented the
makeup). Unfortunately, the parent helper who had originally planned
to come in and help wasn't, at the very last minute, able to, so it was
something of a time squeeze to get all 20 of them painted. But we had
a great time with it, and the cold cream paint was perfect. Thanks!

Queen Maggie

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Apr 10, 2006, 8:46:42 AM4/10/06
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Alexis wrote:
(snips)


> PS -- the face painting was wonderful. I did a lesson on proportion
> and drawing faces, then the students used pastels to turn their picture
> of a human face into one of a cat face (the pastels represented the
> makeup). Unfortunately, the parent helper who had originally planned
> to come in and help wasn't, at the very last minute, able to, so it was
> something of a time squeeze to get all 20 of them painted. But we had
> a great time with it, and the cold cream paint was perfect. Thanks!
>

Oh, good! I always love that type of project: I've taught stage makeup
workshops for theater camps and community groups and girl scout troops, and
I always did my own kids faces before we went to street festivals...
because I knew they'd want to get it done, and that way I could let them
have another treat since we wouldn't have spent the money on a
'professional' painter. Mine were always more extensive and more individual
than anything else we'd see. There was always at least one query as to
where that artist was, from another parent, too! (I get far too smug about
such things)
;D

Queen Maggie

0mn1vore

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Apr 10, 2006, 2:52:54 PM4/10/06
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On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:43:57 -0700, HangingJester wrote
(in message <QBc_f.1220$3s4.1142@fed1read11>):

> Tim Merrigan wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:16:37 -0800, HangingJester
>> <hangin...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Alexis wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm in a creative slump and I need some ideas, and sort of quickly :-)
>>>>
>>>> One of our local bookstores is sponsoring an art project/contest to
>>>> coincide with the production of 'Cats' that is coming here next week.
>>>> We're reading the poems from the book and we're going to write our own
>>>> cinquains about either cats in general or any of the cats from the book
>>>> who are also in the musical. However, i'm looking to hopefully find
>>>> something "different" to do to illustrate our poems. Some different,
>>>> but not overly difficult, technique, maybe. I've done basic technique
>>>> lessons with them in wax relief (with watercolor over crayon), tempra
>>>> paint, chalk, oil pastels, and fingerpaint. My first idea was to give
>>>> them a choice between any of them to draw their interpretation of the
>>>> cats, but if anyone else has an idea for something new and different (I
>>>> know there are a LOT of folks here more visually creative and I am),
>>>> I'd love to hear your ideas.
>>>
>>> How about:
>>>
>>> a 3D rendering output to 2D?
>>> Wire frame CAD?
>>> Lithographs?
>>> Done in comic book style?
>>>

>>>> Jester
>>
>>
>> You do know she's talking about a kindergarten class, don't you?
>
> At the time I posted that, I did not. Alexis' post only mentioned "local
> bookstores" There was no indication in the original post that Alexis was
> talking about having children in her class create the art.
>
> ~ Jester

But you know, I still like the idea of a bunch of reeeally geeky
5 and 6yr-olds producing lithographs of fully rendered wire-frame
CAD designs, done in the comic book style. All while wearing cat
face-paint.

Thanks. :-)


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Of course not. it's called `eMail',
There is no escape. not `yMail', silly.]


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