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JJohns...@webtv.net

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We White Nationalists often spend time arguing with the Multiracialists
about whether or not the White race is superior to the Negro race. Such
arguments, for the most part, are a waste of time. The bottom line is
that the White man and the Black man have major physical and
psychological differences. These differences are so great that it is
impossible for the two races to live in the same society without
constant racial warfare of one type or another.

The Multiracialist obviously has little understanding of human nature in
that he refuses to acknowledge that each race of mankind needs its own
living space. The Multiracialist seems to believe that if we ignore
racial differences that those differences will magically go away.

Another thing of interest is that when the Multiracialist speaks of
"diversity", he always means "diversity" at the expense of Whites. You
will never hear from a Multiracialist that an all colored organization,
or a colored nation is lacking "diversity" because there are no Whites.
To the Multiracialist, "diversity" is lacking ONLY when there are to
many Whites. Thus, "diversity", to the Multiracialist, means reducing
White people to a minority anywhere and everywhere.

Unfortunately, many White Americans are infected with the Multiracialist
virus. These masochistic, self hating Whites are very rarely turned
around. Trying to talk sense to them is like trying to talk a queer out
of his perversion.
But in the last few years more and more of us Whites are opening our
eyes and opposing the destruction of our race and nation. Even some of
the Blacks are growing tired of racial-mixing and Jewish arrogance, as
can be seen in the Black Nationalist movement.

I will conclude this by urging every right thinking White person to do
everything in his or her power (within the law) to oppose the people and
policies that are hostile towards our very existence.

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The Devil's Advocate©

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On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:05:14 -0500 (EST), JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

>about whether or not the White race is superior to the Negro race. Such
>arguments, for the most part, are a waste of time. The bottom line is
>that the White man and the Black man have major physical and
>psychological differences. These differences are so great that it is
>impossible for the two races to live in the same society without
>constant racial warfare of one type or another.

I am black and have plenty of white friends as well as Hispanic
friends, we all get along great, shut up and get a life asshole.

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Thomas Mohr

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Just a few questions.

1) How can you be a Roman Catholic and an antisemite at the same time ? I
mean, Jeseus was a Jew, the twelve Apostles were Jews, The Bible was written
by Jews, etc., etc. So how can you be such an antisemite and a Roman
Catholic ?
2) How can you be a Roman Catholic and defamate the character of people ?
3) How can you be a Roman Catholic and see other humans as that inferior and
bad ?
4) How can you be a Roman Catholic and offend people in public for no reason
?

JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

> We White Nationalists often spend time arguing with the Multiracialists

> about whether or not the White race is superior to the Negro race. Such
> arguments, for the most part, are a waste of time. The bottom line is
> that the White man and the Black man have major physical and
> psychological differences.

Scientific proof please ?


> These differences are so great that it is
> impossible for the two races to live in the same society without
> constant racial warfare of one type or another.

Scientific proof please ?


JJohns...@webtv.net

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"The Devil's Advocate" said, "I am black and have plenty of white
friends as well as hispanic friends, we all get along great, shut up and
get a life asshole."

This kind of mentality is a perfect of example of the Negro inability to
think in the abstract. He has an inability to see the whole picture. He
is only concerned with his own immediate surroundings. If he and his
"friends" get along than in his mind all is well with the rest of the
world. He not only has poor insight, he is also a bit self-centered.

Perhaps next time some Black activist is sniveling about "White racism",
we can shut him up by reminding him that "The Devil's Advocate" gets
along with his White "friends", Therefore racism of any kind does not
and cannot exist!

Aviator

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>We White Nationalists often spend time arguing with the Multiracialists
>about whether or not the White race is superior to the Negro race. Such
>arguments, for the most part, are a waste of time. The bottom line is
>that the White man and the Black man have major physical and
>psychological differences. These differences are so great that it is

>impossible for the two races to live in the same society without
>constant racial warfare of one type or another.

There are dozens of blacks and hispanics in my company. The only warfare we
have is disagreements around a boardroom table. As usual your opinion comes
from books and propaganda


>
>The Multiracialist obviously has little understanding of human nature in
>that he refuses to acknowledge that each race of mankind needs its own
>living space. The Multiracialist seems to believe that if we ignore
>racial differences that those differences will magically go away.

Are you some kind of idiot who thinks that we share the same "living
space"?? And you expect anyon to believe your argument.


>
>Another thing of interest is that when the Multiracialist speaks of
>"diversity", he always means "diversity" at the expense of Whites. You
>will never hear from a Multiracialist that an all colored organization,
>or a colored nation is lacking "diversity" because there are no Whites.
>To the Multiracialist, "diversity" is lacking ONLY when there are to
>many Whites. Thus, "diversity", to the Multiracialist, means reducing
>White people to a minority anywhere and everywhere.

Wrong. By deciding to be a racist, you have created your own minority. Now
you know how it feels. Enjoy it


>
>Unfortunately, many White Americans are infected with the Multiracialist
>virus. These masochistic, self hating Whites are very rarely turned
>around. Trying to talk sense to them is like trying to talk a queer out
>of his perversion.

Self hating?? I dont think so. I get along with other ethnicities. They have
their culture and I have mine. Your arrogant stupity manifests itself in you
assertion that because the majority of the white population doesnt agree
with your perverted hate agenda, that we are all wrong. I like myself just
fine, and I see through pathetic belief that you are better than everyone
else. Youre a scared minority

>But in the last few years more and more of us Whites are opening our
>eyes and opposing the destruction of our race and nation. Even some of
>the Blacks are growing tired of racial-mixing and Jewish arrogance, as
>can be seen in the Black Nationalist movement.

Racists on either side of the color bar are sick cowards. The increase in
the numbers of white supremists has increased at the same rate as the
population growth. You remain a losers comprising less than 1% of the
population with no support and the inability to even get ONE representative
into government.


>
>I will conclude this by urging every right thinking White person to do
>everything in his or her power (within the law) to oppose the people and
>policies that are hostile towards our very existence.

Considering the above facts, why would anyone want to join your little gang
of losers???
>
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>http://www.usaor.net/losers/ipm
>
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>http://www.natapp.com
>
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>http://www.poop.com
>


Thomas Mohr

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JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

> This kind of mentality is a perfect of example of the Negro inability to
> think in the abstract. He has an inability to see the whole picture. He
> is only concerned with his own immediate surroundings. If he and his
> "friends" get along than in his mind all is well with the rest of the
> world. He not only has poor insight, he is also a bit self-centered.

Johnson, you are VERY wrong. The whole thing has nothing to do with abstract
thinking. Do you know what abstract thinking is ? Can you probably give us a
typical example of abstract thinking ?

The issue is not abstract thinking, the issue is generalization and the
ability to conclude from a sample to the whole and vice versa.

What you racists do is to conclude from a VERY large whole - using
scientifically very uncertain assumptions - to very small samples. Such a
thing has nothing to do with seeing the whole picture. It is more with being
not intelligent enough to see the details.

Let me put it this way: Imagine the painting "waterlillies" by Monet. You
racists stop at the point where you say: this painting is green and blue.
You are unable or not intelligent enugh to see the details and the intention
of the painting. The same way you say "The negroe lacks abstract thinking".
And what makes things worse, you don't even know that. What you do is
guessing the colour of a painting without having seen it and then you try to
describe it based on a guess. Not very smart, isn't it ?


JJohns...@webtv.net

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It is amusing that Mr. Mohr requires scientific proof regarding a matter
that only requires simple reasoning and common sense. If you need proof
that multiracialism does not work Mr. Mohr, how about all the "hate
crimes" that you, Berg, Aviator and the rest of your leftist buddies are
always screeching and howling about. There would be no "hate crimes" in
a racially homogeneous society. Although I guess that all murders could
be considered "hate crimes" due to the fact that murder is generally not
a sign of love and affection under any circumstances - unless you're
into some intense kinky sh_t - and with you liberals you never know.
Perhaps necrophilia will be the next "civil right" you people will be
campaigning for.

JJohns...@webtv.net

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I honestly do not understand why Mr. Mohr continues to ask me questions
that I have already answered about twenty times. But I will give him
somemore answers in the hopes of shutting him up. This is the last time
I will answer this question regarding Catholicism, so burn it into your
liberal brain, Mr. Mohr.

It is not a sin to be loyal to and defend your OWN family, race, nation,
or tribe when it is under attack.

With regards to "anti-semitism" and its relation to Catholicism here is
What Pope Eugenius IV had to say about the Jews in 1442 A.D.:

"We decree and order that from now on, AND FOR ALL TIME(emphasis added
for Mr. Mohr), Christians shall not eat or drink with Jews; nor admit
them to feasts, nor cohabit with them, nor bathe with them. Christians
shall not allow Jews to hold civil honors over Christians, or to
exercise public offices in the State. Jews cannot be merchants, Tax
Collectors, or agents in the buying and selling of produce and goods of
Christians, nor their Procurators, Computers or Lawyers in matrimonial
matters, nor Obstetricians; nor can they have association or partnership
with Christians. No Christian can leave or bequeath anything in his last
Will and Testament to Jews or their congregations. Jews are prohibited
from erecting new synogogues. They are obliged to pay annually a tenth
part of their goods and holdings. Against them Christians can testify,
but the testimony of Jews against Christians is in no case of any value.
All and every single Jew, of whatever sex and age, must everywhere wear
the distinct dress and known marks by which they can be evidently
distinguished from Christians. They cannot live among Christians, but in
a certain street, separated and segregated from Christians, and outside
which they cannot under any pretext have houses..."

Also, Fr. Coughlin, a Catholic priest earlier this century was very
critical of the Jews and exposed the fact that the Jews are the bearers
of communism. I am sorry that Mr. Mohr could not comprehend a single
word I had to say when I answered this question about Catholicism and
its relation to my ideology numerous times before. Also, I am a White
Nationalist or a Fascist (The movement towards nationalism and
conservatism as opposed to internationalism and radicalism, originated
by the Fascisti in Italy), not a "Nazi". A Nazi is a member of Adolph
Hitlers National Socialist German Workers Party. Hitler has been dead
for fifty years and I am a few decades to young and a few thousand miles
to far to have been a member of the National Socialist German Workers
Party (Nazi Party).

ipm

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"The Devil's AdvocateŠ" wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:05:14 -0500 (EST), JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:
>

> >about whether or not the White race is superior to the Negro race. Such
> >arguments, for the most part, are a waste of time. The bottom line is
> >that the White man and the Black man have major physical and
> >psychological differences. These differences are so great that it is
> >impossible for the two races to live in the same society without
> >constant racial warfare of one type or another.
>

> I am black and have plenty of white friends as well as Hispanic


> friends, we all get along great, shut up and get a life asshole.

You said good-bye once, now hit the road.

--
Regards,
Ian

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Thomas Mohr

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JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

> I honestly do not understand why Mr. Mohr continues to ask me questions
> that I have already answered about twenty times.

I expected that you can not understand that. You never answered these
questions.

> It is not a sin to be loyal to and defend your OWN family, race, nation,
> or tribe when it is under attack.

As I said. You are NOT my family. My non-white cousin is.


>
> With regards to "anti-semitism" and its relation to Catholicism here is
> What Pope Eugenius IV had to say about the Jews in 1442 A.D.:
>
> "We decree and order that from now on, AND FOR ALL TIME(emphasis added
> for Mr. Mohr), Christians shall not eat or drink with Jews; nor admit
> them to feasts, nor cohabit with them, nor bathe with them. Christians
> shall not allow Jews to hold civil honors over Christians, or to
> exercise public offices in the State. Jews cannot be merchants, Tax
> Collectors, or agents in the buying and selling of produce and goods of
> Christians, nor their Procurators, Computers or Lawyers in matrimonial
> matters, nor Obstetricians; nor can they have association or partnership
> with Christians. No Christian can leave or bequeath anything in his last
> Will and Testament to Jews or their congregations. Jews are prohibited
> from erecting new synogogues. They are obliged to pay annually a tenth
> part of their goods and holdings. Against them Christians can testify,
> but the testimony of Jews against Christians is in no case of any value.
> All and every single Jew, of whatever sex and age, must everywhere wear
> the distinct dress and known marks by which they can be evidently
> distinguished from Christians. They cannot live among Christians, but in
> a certain street, separated and segregated from Christians, and outside
> which they cannot under any pretext have houses..."

My god. That was 1442 !!! Just a few questions. Do you believe in witches ?
Do you believe that Gallilei's model of the solar system is against the
faith of the church (also such a decree) ? Do you believe that Darwin's
theory of evolution is against the church (also condemned).


> Also, I am a White
> Nationalist or a Fascist (The movement towards nationalism and
> conservatism as opposed to internationalism and radicalism, originated
> by the Fascisti in Italy), not a "Nazi". A Nazi is a member of Adolph
> Hitlers National Socialist German Workers Party. Hitler has been dead
> for fifty years and I am a few decades to young and a few thousand miles
> to far to have been a member of the National Socialist German Workers
> Party (Nazi Party).

I never said you were a Nazi, you showed up with Hitler. However, you share
MANY traits of a Nazi.

Thomas Mohr

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JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

> "We decree and order that from now on, AND FOR ALL TIME(emphasis added
> for Mr. Mohr), Christians shall not eat or drink with Jews; nor admit
> them to feasts, nor cohabit with them, nor bathe with them. Christians
> shall not allow Jews to hold civil honors over Christians, or to
> exercise public offices in the State. Jews cannot be merchants, Tax
> Collectors, or agents in the buying and selling of produce and goods of
> Christians, nor their Procurators, Computers or Lawyers in matrimonial
> matters, nor Obstetricians; nor can they have association or partnership
> with Christians. No Christian can leave or bequeath anything in his last
> Will and Testament to Jews or their congregations. Jews are prohibited
> from erecting new synogogues. They are obliged to pay annually a tenth
> part of their goods and holdings. Against them Christians can testify,
> but the testimony of Jews against Christians is in no case of any value.
> All and every single Jew, of whatever sex and age, must everywhere wear
> the distinct dress and known marks by which they can be evidently
> distinguished from Christians. They cannot live among Christians, but in
> a certain street, separated and segregated from Christians, and outside
> which they cannot under any pretext have houses..."

Johnson, I know that marines are trained to omit thinking and to obey
orders, but Just one question. With this decree, the pope would have
forbidden the social intercourse with his own boss. Remember, Jesus was a
jew and he never seceded from Judaism. Just a LITTLE thinking PLEASE.


Thomas Mohr

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JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

> It is amusing that Mr. Mohr requires scientific proof regarding a matter
> that only requires simple reasoning and common sense. If you need proof
> that multiracialism does not work Mr. Mohr, how about all the "hate
> crimes" that you, Berg, Aviator and the rest of your leftist buddies are
> always screeching and howling about. There would be no "hate crimes" in
> a racially homogeneous society. Although I guess that all murders could
> be considered "hate crimes" due to the fact that murder is generally not
> a sign of love and affection under any circumstances - unless you're
> into some intense kinky sh_t - and with you liberals you never know.
> Perhaps necrophilia will be the next "civil right" you people will be
> campaigning for.

So the demand for a scientific proof amuses you ? We'll see if you're still
amused when I'm finished with you.

The point is, you post statements like negroes have no ability to think in
abstract terms, negroes have a higher genetic incidence to diseases, etc.,
etc. all things that have to be proven before you spread them. So please
give the scientific proof, okay ?

I'm now convinced that your knowledge in science is deplorable. "Common
sense" is something that works well in the super-market, but not when it
comes to science. F.i. "Common sense" tells you that something can not be a
particle and a wave at the same time. In fact that violates common sense
that heavily that you even can not imagine it. But - as tricky as nature is
- *everything* you see - including you yourself - consists *entirely* of
particles which are a wave and a particle at the same time. Totally against
common sense.


Aviator

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ipm <i...@usaor.net> wrote in message news:36DAA125...@usaor.net...

>
>
>"The Devil's AdvocateŠ" wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:05:14 -0500 (EST), JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:
>>
>> >about whether or not the White race is superior to the Negro race. Such
>> >arguments, for the most part, are a waste of time. The bottom line is
>> >that the White man and the Black man have major physical and
>> >psychological differences. These differences are so great that it is
>> >impossible for the two races to live in the same society without
>> >constant racial warfare of one type or another.
>>
>> I am black and have plenty of white friends as well as Hispanic
>> friends, we all get along great, shut up and get a life asshole.
>
>You said good-bye once, now hit the road.

Fuck you bigot!! He can stay as long as he wants, loser

JJohns...@webtv.net

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Mr. Mohr asked, "Do you believe in witches?"

Although they may not be able to fly on brooms and cast spells there are
people who practice satanic worship and what they themselves call
"witchcraft". A few hundred years ago these people were dealt with
accordingly.

I believe in the Jews and their usury system - even worse than witches!

Thomas Mohr

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JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

> Mr. Mohr asked, "Do you believe in witches?"
>
> Although they may not be able to fly on brooms and cast spells there are
> people who practice satanic worship and what they themselves call
> "witchcraft". A few hundred years ago these people were dealt with
> accordingly.
>
> I believe in the Jews and their usury system - even worse than witches!

Do you believe that the model of the solar system created by Galileo Galilei
is against the faith ?

Do you know why Jews were notorious for usury ? Do you know that ?

BTW, I STILL miss the scientific reference to your claims. Which
qualification do you have to write your statements ? Do you UNDERSTAND
what's behind them or are you just a parrot ?


ipm

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JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

> Mr. Mohr asked, "Do you believe in witches?"
>
> Although they may not be able to fly on brooms and cast spells there are
> people who practice satanic worship and what they themselves call
> "witchcraft". A few hundred years ago these people were dealt with
> accordingly.
>
> I believe in the Jews and their usury system - even worse than witches!

LOL! Johnson, you sure nailed the blithering fool that time.

Aviator

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ipm <i...@usaor.net> wrote in message news:36DB24CE...@usaor.net...

>
>
>JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:
>
>> Mr. Mohr asked, "Do you believe in witches?"
>>
>> Although they may not be able to fly on brooms and cast spells there are
>> people who practice satanic worship and what they themselves call
>> "witchcraft". A few hundred years ago these people were dealt with
>> accordingly.
>>
>> I believe in the Jews and their usury system - even worse than witches!
>
>LOL! Johnson, you sure nailed the blithering fool that time.

I get it!!! Roger agrees with Johnny, so that makes it right!!!!! Now we
know why he has had to call in five buddies to peddle his pathetic, racist
hate agenda

Get real asshole. Two wrongs dont make it right!!!

Fantomas

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ipm wrote:

>
> "The Devil's Advocate©" wrote:

> > I am black and have plenty of white friends as well as Hispanic
> > friends, we all get along great,

Which is how life works in the real California which Ian-Roger has never
been to.

shut up and get a life asshole.
>
> You said good-bye once, now hit the road.

Why don't you hit the road Ian-Roger and get to know the
California that you have never known...
the bath houses are awaiting your presence.

Fantomas


ipm

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Fantomas wrote:

> ipm wrote:
>
> > You said good-bye once, now hit the road.
>
> Why don't you hit the road Ian-Roger and get to know the
> California that you have never known...
> the bath houses are awaiting your presence.

LOL! I'd be like Jesus chasing out the moneychangers!

JJohns...@webtv.net

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Jesus chasing out the money changers. That is an excellent analogy!

Greg Taylor

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JJohnson wrote

>It is not a sin to be loyal to and defend your OWN family,
>race, nation, or tribe when it is under attack.

>With regards to "anti-semitism" and its relation to


>Catholicism here is What Pope Eugenius IV had to say
>about the Jews in 1442 A.D.:

>(ridiculous quote snipped)

So JJ, as a *Christian* why is it that you follow the teachings of
someone other than *Christ*?
----------------------
Greg Taylor
http://members.tripod.com/nomorehate/

Greg Taylor

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JJohnson wrote

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

>>I am black and have plenty of white friends as well

>>as hispanic friends, we all get along great, shut up


>>and get a life asshole.

>This kind of mentality is a perfect of example of the


>Negro inability to think in the abstract. He has an
>inability to see the whole picture. He is only concerned
>with his own immediate surroundings. If he and his
>"friends" get along than in his mind all is well with the
>rest of the world. He not only has poor insight, he is
>also a bit self-centered.

Your mentality is rather humorous. You are unable to adapt to your
surroundings so you mock others who *are* able to.

Darwin was right. Those that adapt, survive. Those that don't,
become extinct.

Your type will soon be among the extinct.

The Devil's Advocate©

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On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 05:07:50 -0500 (EST), JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

>"The Devil's Advocate" said, "I am black and have plenty of white


>friends as well as hispanic friends, we all get along great, shut up and
>get a life asshole."
>
>This kind of mentality is a perfect of example of the Negro inability to
>think in the abstract.

I love it when you white power rangers flaunt your ignorance. Negroes
can't think in the abstract? Then explain abstract art in West Africa.
You probably don't even know that African art inspired the abstract
movement in Europe, by the likes of Picasso who studied african art.
But then as most white nationalism, you are a philistine that knows
very little about the Western culture you allege to be defending.

And secondly, intellectually, I'll squash you into the ground as I've
done for the last year with the other white power rangers.

> He has an inability to see the whole picture. He
>is only concerned with his own immediate surroundings. If he and his
>"friends" get along than in his mind all is well with the rest of the
>world. He not only has poor insight, he is also a bit self-centered.

The point in posting what I did is to say that people that don't care
about race don't have any racial problems. When race is made such an
important issue, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. I've been
lucky enough to see people of every diverse background get along just
fine as if they were one. People like you are the forces of evil in
this world.

>
>Perhaps next time some Black activist is sniveling about "White racism",
>we can shut him up by reminding him that "The Devil's Advocate" gets
>along with his White "friends", Therefore racism of any kind does not
>and cannot exist!

It's hasn't been my argument that racism is holding me back in any
major way, so take it up with someone else.

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On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 18:37:50 -0500, ipm <i...@usaor.net> wrote:

>LOL! Johnson, you sure nailed the blithering fool that time.

...something you have no hope of doing.

Why don't you take him out of your killfile, you coward?

JJohns...@webtv.net

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When I say "abstract", I am not referring to filthy, formless, communist
"art" that looks like an automobile accident in paint. Picasso was a
left-wing culture destroyer.

When I refer to abstract thinking, I mean the ability to mentally focus
on theoretical and ideological themes. The ability to evaluate the whole
picture.

I will say that Negroes have street smarts though (concrete reasoning)
such as figuring out where your next dose of heroin or crack will come
from. Or deciding which corner is best to stand on to wait for a White
woman to rape. Regarding that type of reasoning, Negroes seem to excel.

Robert McCallum

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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 04:59:54 -0500 (EST), JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

>When I say "abstract", I am not referring to filthy, formless, communist
>"art" that looks like an automobile accident in paint. Picasso was a
>left-wing culture destroyer.
>
>When I refer to abstract thinking, I mean the ability to mentally focus
>on theoretical and ideological themes. The ability to evaluate the whole
>picture.
>
>I will say that Negroes have street smarts though (concrete reasoning)
>such as figuring out where your next dose of heroin or crack will come
>from. Or deciding which corner is best to stand on to wait for a White
>woman to rape. Regarding that type of reasoning, Negroes seem to excel.
>
>

Which, of course, puts them above you. You have no abstract reasoning
skills at all.

Thomas Mohr

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JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

> When I say "abstract", I am not referring to filthy, formless, communist
> "art" that looks like an automobile accident in paint. Picasso was a
> left-wing culture destroyer.

Well, fortunately your sense for art is not in dicscussion.


> When I refer to abstract thinking, I mean the ability to mentally focus
> on theoretical and ideological themes. The ability to evaluate the whole
> picture.

That is "generalization", not abstract thinking. Abstract thinking is f.i.
if somebody says "bring me a desk" and you bring him a desk. Then you
perform abstract thinking.


> I will say that Negroes have street smarts though (concrete reasoning)
> such as figuring out where your next dose of heroin or crack will come
> from. Or deciding which corner is best to stand on to wait for a White
> woman to rape. Regarding that type of reasoning, Negroes seem to excel.

Obviously you are not very smart. What you do here might be considered as
character defamation and even a criminal act.

Thomas Mohr

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ipm wrote:

> LOL! I'd be like Jesus chasing out the moneychangers!

With one decisive difference. Jesus was the good guy. You are the bad one.
Or do you really think that you can compare with Jesus with YOUR file of
lies, character defamations, etc. etc. ?

ipm

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"The Devil's AdvocateŠ" wrote:

> On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 18:37:50 -0500, ipm <i...@usaor.net> wrote:
>
> >LOL! Johnson, you sure nailed the blithering fool that time.
>
> ...something you have no hope of doing.
>
> Why don't you take him out of your killfile, you coward?

LOL! Me a coward? Boy, you know better than anyone how I've been whipping
your ass for months. I will say you're entertaining to a point. I mean I
just laugh whenever you start your offended negro act, or when you
threaten to contact someone's ISP, or when you say goodbye but don't
leave- all because you you're getting your head handed to you. I never
know what silliness you'll be engaged in next. Mohr, OTOH, is just boring.
He keeps moaning and lying with such tedious monotony that he's not even
funny. Nonetheless, I can still appreciate when someone else slaps him
around like he deserves. My arms are worn out!

Thomas Mohr

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ipm wrote:

>
> > I believe in the Jews and their usury system - even worse than witches!
>

> LOL! Johnson, you sure nailed the blithering fool that time.

Nailed ? hahaha. McKinney, I nailed your balls to the wall more than once and
it takes more than a johnson to nail me. Wait till I'm finished with him.
He'll look as stupid as you looked after we played the scenarios, after I
revealed that nearly your entire post concerning Talmudic hartred was a lie,
after I reveald that you "analyse" although you have not the slightest clue
how to do that and after I exposed that you have severe lacks in your
instincts.

Thomas Mohr

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JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

> When I say "abstract", I am not referring to filthy, formless, communist
> "art" that looks like an automobile accident in paint. Picasso was a
> left-wing culture destroyer.
>

> When I refer to abstract thinking, I mean the ability to mentally focus
> on theoretical and ideological themes. The ability to evaluate the whole
> picture.
>

> I will say that Negroes have street smarts though (concrete reasoning)
> such as figuring out where your next dose of heroin or crack will come
> from. Or deciding which corner is best to stand on to wait for a White
> woman to rape. Regarding that type of reasoning, Negroes seem to excel.

Johnson, I notice that you panicly avoid my questions concerning scientific
proof. Afraid ? Fear from an ex-marine ? Or simply to stupid to give a
simple scientific proof ?

To give you an example to where "common sense" might lead, answer following:

You cut a triangle into four geometric figures, no gaps are left. Is it
possible to rearrange the figures in a way that they form the original
triangle, but have a gap of one square unit between them ? Please answre the
question an I will demonstarte to where your "common sense" leads even in
this simple case.


Thomas Mohr

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ipm wrote:

> LOL! Me a coward? Boy, you know better than anyone how I've been whipping
> your ass for months. I will say you're entertaining to a point. I mean I
> just laugh whenever you start your offended negro act, or when you
> threaten to contact someone's ISP, or when you say goodbye but don't
> leave- all because you you're getting your head handed to you. I never
> know what silliness you'll be engaged in next. Mohr, OTOH, is just boring.
> He keeps moaning and lying with such tedious monotony that he's not even
> funny.

Lying ? When ? Citation please ?

Irmin

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(The Devil's AdvocateŽ) wrote:

[...]

>You probably don't even know that African art inspired the
>abstract movement in Europe, by the likes of Picasso who studied
>african art. But then as most white nationalism, you are a
>philistine that knows very little about the Western culture you
>allege to be defending.

[...]

You're confusing abstract art and mental abstraction. They're
related but not identical, and the latter has a precise meaning in
studies of intelligence.

But I like your example. Afrocentrists, far from applauding
Picasso for borrowing from African models, as I believe you do,
now accuse him of cultural imperialism, despoiling Black culture
for Eurocentric purposes. An interesting fact of art history that
could have been used nonracially to emphasize our common human
legacy of artistic expression has been twisted, though with
suitably complex language, into just another political tool for
getting Whitey.

So your example illustrates our growing balkanization. We're not
one nation, we don't belong to a single culture, and we're
steadily growing further apart, propelled largely by minority
rejection of and hostility toward Euro-Americans.

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"The Devil's AdvocateŠ" wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 05:07:50 -0500 (EST), JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> >"The Devil's Advocate" said, "I am black and have plenty of white
> >friends as well as hispanic friends, we all get along great, shut up and
> >get a life asshole."
> >
> >This kind of mentality is a perfect of example of the Negro inability to
> >think in the abstract.
>
> I love it when you white power rangers flaunt your ignorance. Negroes
> can't think in the abstract? Then explain abstract art in West Africa.

> You probably don't even know that African art inspired the abstract
> movement in Europe, by the likes of Picasso who studied african art.
> But then as most white nationalism, you are a philistine that knows
> very little about the Western culture you allege to be defending.

Picasso was a degenerate. I am not surprised to hear his daubings were
inspired by something from Africa.


> And secondly, intellectually, I'll squash you into the ground as I've
> done for the last year with the other white power rangers.

ROTFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even if you focused every once of intellectual ability
you couldn't squash a friggin' ant. You've made yourself into a laughing
stock so many times I quit counting. Just like three days ago you were
telling everyone you were saying goodbye because you had too many other
things to do. What happened? You're still here whining and making ludicrous
claims of victory. The more of your gibberings that I read the more I am
convinced that you're some kind of nut.

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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 04:59:54 -0500 (EST), JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

>When I say "abstract", I am not referring to filthy, formless, communist
>"art" that looks like an automobile accident in paint. Picasso was a
>left-wing culture destroyer.

You white power rangers see communism hidden under every rock, ROTFL!

>
>When I refer to abstract thinking, I mean the ability to mentally focus
>on theoretical and ideological themes. The ability to evaluate the whole
>picture.
>
>I will say that Negroes have street smarts though (concrete reasoning)
>such as figuring out where your next dose of heroin or crack will come
>from. Or deciding which corner is best to stand on to wait for a White
>woman to rape. Regarding that type of reasoning, Negroes seem to excel.

I see you were chosen from the lowest common denominator.

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On Tue, 02 Mar 1999 11:20:58 -0500, ipm <i...@usaor.net> wrote:

>The more of your gibberings that I read the more I am
>convinced that you're some kind of nut.

Well, what's that say for you since you respond to everything I say.

The Devil's Advocate©

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On Tue, 02 Mar 1999 09:07:37 -0500, ipm <i...@usaor.net> wrote:

>Boy, you know better than anyone how I've been whipping
>your ass for months.

This is a reoccuring hallucinations of yours, why don't you go ahead
and name some occasions where you've whipped my ass.

Fantomas

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> Also, I am a White
> Nationalist or a Fascist (The movement towards nationalism and
> conservatism as opposed to internationalism and radicalism, originated
> by the Fascisti in Italy)

This proves that you know nothing about Italian fascism. Fascism was NOT
a movement towards conservatism ; indeed it was opposed deeply to
conserva-
tism. Read the writings of Mussolini or Marinetti sometime. Many
conserva-
tives ( monarchists ) supported fascism believing that it was the lesser
evil compared to Marxism, but it shows a total ignorance of fascism that
you would think of it as a movement towards conservatism. Unless you are
trying to make a joke here which I highly doubt. Also,fascism was not
antisemitic until Mussolini had been reduced to a puppet of Hitler.
Prior
to World War II there was no Jew hatred in fascist Italy ( the similar
government of Franco in Spain banned the public practice of Judaism and
forced Jewish children to attend Catholic schools but did nothing
contrary
to the life and livelihood of the tiny Jewish population of Spain ).
Even
then the " racial laws " were only half heartedly enforced until
Mussolini
collapsed and the Germans invaded. Learn about your 20th c. history
instead
of repeating the same old Pierce dogma...

Fantomas

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Nazism is a form of Fascism. Also, you are confusing true conservatism
with U.S. conservatism (which is a form of liberalism).

The Websters Collegiate Dictionary (fifth edition) gives the following
definition of Fascism: "The movement toward nationalism and conservatism


as opposed to internationalism and radicalism, originated by the

Fascisti in Italy."

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>We White Nationalists often spend time arguing with the Multiracialists
>about whether or not the White race is superior to the Negro race. Such
>arguments, for the most part, are a waste of time. The bottom line is
>that the White man and the Black man have major physical and
>psychological differences. These differences are so great that it is
>impossible for the two races to live in the same society without
>constant racial warfare of one type or another.

What a crock of shit!!! The MAJORITY of the population ( around 90% ) Its
only you bigotted 1%er racist assholes who cant assimilate
>
>The Multiracialist obviously has little understanding of human nature in
>that he refuses to acknowledge that each race of mankind needs its own
>living space. The Multiracialist seems to believe that if we ignore
>racial differences that those differences will magically go away.
>
>Another thing of interest is that when the Multiracialist speaks of
>"diversity", he always means "diversity" at the expense of Whites. You
>will never hear from a Multiracialist that an all colored organization,
>or a colored nation is lacking "diversity" because there are no Whites.
>To the Multiracialist, "diversity" is lacking ONLY when there are to
>many Whites. Thus, "diversity", to the Multiracialist, means reducing
>White people to a minority anywhere and everywhere.

Its interesting to not that 90% of the population does not concur with this
idiotic assertion. What you really mean is that RACIST whites have been
reduced to a minority, by your own choice, I might add. Yet you still blame
evryone else for your lifes travails

Youre a racist loser, and will probably die a bitter and twisted old man,
and never realise that you did it to yourself
>
>Unfortunately, many White Americans are infected with the Multiracialist
>virus. These masochistic, self hating Whites are very rarely turned
>around. Trying to talk sense to them is like trying to talk a queer out
>of his perversion.

This is the same crap you use in other posts as well. Do you feel you need
to repeat yourself often in order to reassure youself that you are right??
No-one else in this Newsgroup buys that crap

>But in the last few years more and more of us Whites are opening our
>eyes and opposing the destruction of our race and nation. Even some of
>the Blacks are growing tired of racial-mixing and Jewish arrogance, as
>can be seen in the Black Nationalist movement.
>
>I will conclude this by urging every right thinking White person to do
>everything in his or her power (within the law) to oppose the people and
>policies that are hostile towards our very existence.

Ho hum. No one in his right mind would give this bigotted racist garbage a
second thought

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>On Tue, 02 Mar 1999 08:11:36 GMT, soca...@earthlink.netNO-JUNK
>(The Devil's AdvocateŽ) wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>>You probably don't even know that African art inspired the
>>abstract movement in Europe, by the likes of Picasso who studied
>>african art. But then as most white nationalism, you are a
>>philistine that knows very little about the Western culture you
>>allege to be defending.
>
>[...]
>
>You're confusing abstract art and mental abstraction. They're
>related but not identical, and the latter has a precise meaning in
>studies of intelligence.
>
>But I like your example. Afrocentrists, far from applauding
>Picasso for borrowing from African models, as I believe you do,
>now accuse him of cultural imperialism, despoiling Black culture
>for Eurocentric purposes. An interesting fact of art history that
>could have been used nonracially to emphasize our common human
>legacy of artistic expression has been twisted, though with
>suitably complex language, into just another political tool for
>getting Whitey.
>
>So your example illustrates our growing balkanization. We're not
>one nation, we don't belong to a single culture, and we're
>steadily growing further apart, propelled largely by minority
>rejection of and hostility toward Euro-Americans.

90% of the population is getting along just fine. You self made minority
bigots are the ones bitching. Why bother us with your problems??

Dont have the audacity to group the rest of whites in America in with you
and your racist buddies. You are worlds apart


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>Nazism is a form of Fascism. Also, you are confusing true conservatism
>with U.S. conservatism (which is a form of liberalism).
>
>The Websters Collegiate Dictionary (fifth edition) gives the following
>definition of Fascism: "The movement toward nationalism and conservatism
>as opposed to internationalism and radicalism, originated by the
>Fascisti in Italy."

Main Entry: fas·cism
Pronunciation: 'fa-"shi-z&m also 'fa-"si-
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin
fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date: 1921
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that
of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and
that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression
of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial
control <early instances of army fascism and brutality -- J. W. Aldridge>
- fas·cist /-shist also -sist/ noun or adjective, often capitalized
- fas·cis·tic /fa-'shis-tik also -'sis-/ adjective, often capitalized
- fas·cis·ti·cal·ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb, often capitalized
>

Websters is such a pussy compared to the Oxford


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JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

> Nazism is a form of Fascism. Also, you are confusing true conservatism
> with U.S. conservatism (which is a form of liberalism).
>
> The Websters Collegiate Dictionary (fifth edition) gives the following
> definition of Fascism: "The movement toward nationalism and conservatism
> as opposed to internationalism and radicalism, originated by the
> Fascisti in Italy."

However, even true conservatives have NOTHING to do with fascism.


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<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:

>You're confusing abstract art and mental abstraction. They're
>related but not identical, and the latter has a precise meaning in
>studies of intelligence.
>
>But I like your example. Afrocentrists, far from applauding
>Picasso for borrowing from African models,

I am not an Afrocentrist...

>as I believe you do,
>now accuse him of cultural imperialism, despoiling Black culture
>for Eurocentric purposes. An interesting fact of art history that
>could have been used nonracially to emphasize our common human
>legacy of artistic expression has been twisted, though with
>suitably complex language, into just another political tool for
>getting Whitey.

I don't know too many blacks that have a gripe with Picasso.

>So your example illustrates our growing balkanization. We're not
>one nation,

You're simple emphasising such a claim is enough to make it a
self-fulfilling prophesy. People that aren't raised to care about race
usually don't.

>we don't belong to a single culture,

That can be said to some extent within any culture or country. What
does a poor white hick, in rural Pennslyvania or W. Virginia have in
common with a white yuppy from Midtown Manhattan or W. Hollywood? Put
them in a room together and they wouldn't have to much to talk about.
A black yuppy and a white yuppy have more in common than either does
with their rural counterparts. No, this nation is not comprised of any
one single culture even within races, but we do share many fundamental
beliefs that hold various people together. There are people of every
race in the armed forces ready to die for the country at any given
minute.

>and we're
>steadily growing further apart, propelled largely by minority
>rejection of and hostility toward Euro-Americans.

Then how do you explain the high and increasing intermarriage rates of
Asians, Native Americans and Hispanics into the white population?

The Devil's Advocate©

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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:34:54 -0500 (EST), JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

>Nazism is a form of Fascism. Also, you are confusing true conservatism
>with U.S. conservatism (which is a form of liberalism).

There is no absolute definition of what is conservative. It is a
relative statement to our own times. What is conservative today was
considered liberal at one time. Americans view gun rights as a
conservative position. Some outside the U.S. see gun rights as being
liberal.

Fantomas

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JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> Nazism is a form of Fascism

True. Nazism was very much opposed to conservatism too, being basically
Stalinism with a racial element added.

. Also, you are confusing true conservatism
> with U.S. conservatism (which is a form of liberalism).
>

I think you are trying to refer to the European conservative tradition
of
monarchism and traditionalism. However, this is still a distinct
ideology
which is not fascism. Fascism was a vanguardist movement that was anti-
conservative by nature. Read Mussolini's own writings, such as the entry
on fascism in the Encyclopedia Italiana that he supervised ( 1928 ? )
Last year I went to a show in Milan dedicated to the futurists, whose
leader Filippo Marinetti became one of the chief propagandists for
fascism.
To call him - or his compatriot Julius Evola - a spokesman for
conservatism is absurd ; in general fascism
was something totally distinct from conservatism. It is true that many
European conservatives got into bed with fascism
so as to speak ; they saw it as the only alternative to communism and
thus timidly backed it. This was true of monarchists and even some
Christian Democrats - although TBF it was these elements who turned
against Mussolini when he was no longer winning. It is not in the
favour of European conservatives that so many backed fascism ; indeed,
it is a mark of the cowardice of many conservatives that so many fell
behind
the fascists. ( There were some conservative regimes that took on
fascist characteristics, but I would consider the government of
Portugal
under Salazar and pre WWII Finland to only be semifascist and not
fully fascist, likewise Spain under Don Miguel Primo de Rivera. I think
this is what you may be trying to refer to - or at least the author of
the Websters Dictionary was trying to refer to ). Even in Great Britain
there were all too many in the Tory party who supported Franco in the
Spanish Civil War, to the point of Britain being considered a de facto
ally of the Nationalists by some historians like Paul Preston. This had
to do with the Spanish monarchists being quite anglophilic - and a good
portion of the Spanish military was monarchist. ( Remember that the
queen of Spain Victoria Eugenia, grandmother of current king Juan
Carlos,
was British, and the granddaughter of Victoria ). Likewise much of the
Italian military was monarchist and anglophilic, and thus there was a
definite sympathy for fascist ideals in some conservative sectors
even in the UK. However, this is not the same as saying that fascism was
a movement towards conservatism. Quite the opposite.


> The Websters Collegiate Dictionary (fifth edition) gives the following
> definition of Fascism: "The movement toward nationalism and conservatism
> as opposed to internationalism and radicalism, originated by the
> Fascisti in Italy."

Websters by nature has an American perspective and is not a good source
on these matters. That is the most ridiculous definition of fascism that
I have ever heard. It sounds like it was written by a doctrinaire left
winger who viewed all right wingers as being fascist. " Fascist lackeys
of the capitalist state " and the like. In any case, do a bit more
research into the history of the twentieth century before you talk about
these things. Fast food media leftism is not a legitimate source.
The Webster definition sounds to me like the communist definition of a
fascist : a non-Marxist whom one disagrees with. ( A Marxist who one
disagrees with is defined, depending on the speakers' allegiances,
as a Stalinist, Trotskyite, Menshevik or revisionist ).

The only way that fascism could be mixed up with conservatism is
in terms of how there was a tradition of sorts in Italy of radical
vanguardist revolutionary movements that took inspiration in the
glories of the past. In this sense, as Italian fascism did seek
ample precedent in the Roman and Renaissance eras, it could be
considered conservative - but this is really stretching it.
Just because a movement conforms to an historical pattern
does not make it conservative. In that sense Soviet Communism
was conservative as it conformed to certain patterns in
Russian history. Somehow I do not think that is what you are
trying to say.

I suggest that you read Luigi Barzini's The Italians, J.
ESPECIALLY the chapters on Cola di Rienzo and Mussolini,
as just the first in a long series of things to read, and
then come back and talk about fascism.


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I never claimed to be a conservative of any sort. I am a White
Nationalist. I am opposed to what your ilk calls "democracy"(rule by
mobs). Just as you feel that we White Nationalists should be locked up,
I feel that Multiracialists should be locked up. I only made reference
to conservatism, because both conservatism and Fascism are on the
Right-wing of the political spectrum and Websters made the connection.

In the 1960's the Multiracialist government used the full force of
Federal authority to forcefully integrate the schools against the will
of the southern people. Today, the Left-wing regime in Washington wants
to pass "hate-crime" laws to silence all opponents of Multiracialism.

If we White Nationalists were to replace the present regime, I would
support 100% the full use of Federal authority to enforce racial
separation and to silence all leftist agitators and race-traitors. I
would not object to the death penalty for those convicted of treason.

I find it amusing that the obnoxious scumbag who calls himself "Aviator"
likes to screech about the fact that White Nationalists are a minority
as if I cared one ounce about opinion polls and "democracy"(rule by
mobs).

The majority will go along with whoever is in power as long as they have
food on the table and a roof over their heads. Currently, it is the
multracialists who are in power, so that is the flow the majority herd
will go with. If we White Nationalists were in power, the majority would
support our ideology. This is the way it has always been. To be called a
"racist" today is the same as being called a "witch" in 17th century
Salem, or a "heretic" during the Inquisition. That is why there has
always been leaders and followers. The upside down democratic philosophy
teaches that the herd should be the leader. I disagree.

I honestly do not care if you call me a Fascist, or a National
Socialist, or a monarchist or whatever. I am sure that the little
dirtbag, Aviator, will respond with a string of obsceneties, a typical
left-wing strategy. Shout down your opponents and call names, but don't
debate the facts.

"Democracy, I do not conceive that God did ordain as a fit government
for church or commonwealth. If the people be governors, who shall be
governed?" (John Cotton)

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JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

> In the 1960's the Multiracialist government used the full force of
> Federal authority to forcefully integrate the schools against the will
> of the southern people. Today, the Left-wing regime in Washington wants
> to pass "hate-crime" laws to silence all opponents of Multiracialism.

And you complain ? The government only implemented what you demand below,
but from THEIR side of view. The difference is they LET you express your
opinion, you would silence them. If the government would implement your
ideas as outlined below, you probably would sit in prison. The same as with
McKinney. Preaching water and demanding wine. Hyporitical.


> If we White Nationalists were to replace the present regime, I would
> support 100% the full use of Federal authority to enforce racial
> separation and to silence all leftist agitators and race-traitors. I
> would not object to the death penalty for those convicted of treason.

You're skating on very thin ice. "Treason" is commonly defined as activity
to destroy a country or endanger it's constitution. The activities of your
movement might qualify as treason.

> I honestly do not care if you call me a Fascist, or a National
> Socialist, or a monarchist or whatever. I am sure that the little
> dirtbag, Aviator, will respond with a string of obsceneties, a typical
> left-wing strategy. Shout down your opponents and call names, but don't
> debate the facts.

I have repeatedly asked you to give proof to support your "facts" and
reasonings and you refused to do so. It's YOU who is afraid and/or unable to
debate the facts and it's you who started name-calling. The only thing you
do is parrotting (not very intelligently compiled) propaganda. Do you know
which light that throws on you ?

I have made the observation that people who extensivvley use words ending on
-ism have not a real idea of what they speak about.

BTW, please leave God out of your posts. I bet if He would talk with you,
you would be very, very silent and ashamed afterwards. Mortified, so to say.


Thomas Mohr

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> The majority will go along with whoever is in power as long as they have
> food on the table and a roof over their heads. Currently, it is the
> multracialists who are in power, so that is the flow the majority herd
> will go with. If we White Nationalists were in power, the majority would
> support our ideology.

> This is the way it has always been.

we are a bit naive, aren't we ? Study history and you will see how false
this statement is. I remember very well when communists were in power in
f.i. Czechia. The majority did never support them - when people had enough,
they kicked communists out. Ditto in most other dictatorships (fascist,
communist or whatever).


Aviator

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<JJohns...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>I never claimed to be a conservative of any sort. I am a White
>Nationalist. I am opposed to what your ilk calls "democracy"(rule by
>mobs). Just as you feel that we White Nationalists should be locked up,
>I feel that Multiracialists should be locked up. I only made reference
>to conservatism, because both conservatism and Fascism are on the
>Right-wing of the political spectrum and Websters made the connection.
>
>In the 1960's the Multiracialist government used the full force of
>Federal authority to forcefully integrate the schools against the will
>of the southern people. Today, the Left-wing regime in Washington wants
>to pass "hate-crime" laws to silence all opponents of Multiracialism.

Pray, how are they proposing to *silence* you assholes?? Your prolific
posting shows this assertion to be the usual WIN lies in order to give there
pathetic, scummy little band of bigots some sort of credibility

Fat chance


>
>If we White Nationalists were to replace the present regime, I would
>support 100% the full use of Federal authority to enforce racial
>separation and to silence all leftist agitators and race-traitors. I
>would not object to the death penalty for those convicted of treason.

You are a total idiot if you believe that there is the REMOTEST possibility
of you racist bigots EVER occupying a position of power in this country


>
>I find it amusing that the obnoxious scumbag who calls himself "Aviator"
>likes to screech about the fact that White Nationalists are a minority
>as if I cared one ounce about opinion polls and "democracy"(rule by
>mobs).

Do you have any figures to disprove my claim?? You have no idea how many of
you there are because you asshole racists are so dumb that you form hundreds
of tiny groups, all believing you are the only credible group.

Divided, stupid and arrogant


>
>The majority will go along with whoever is in power as long as they have
>food on the table and a roof over their heads. Currently, it is the
>multracialists who are in power, so that is the flow the majority herd
>will go with. If we White Nationalists were in power, the majority would

>support our ideology. This is the way it has always been. To be called a
>"racist" today is the same as being called a "witch" in 17th century
>Salem, or a "heretic" during the Inquisition. That is why there has
>always been leaders and followers. The upside down democratic philosophy
>teaches that the herd should be the leader. I disagree.

Well, you ragtag goons will have to work a lot harder then, wont you???


>
>I honestly do not care if you call me a Fascist, or a National
>Socialist, or a monarchist or whatever. I am sure that the little
>dirtbag, Aviator, will respond with a string of obsceneties, a typical
>left-wing strategy. Shout down your opponents and call names, but don't
>debate the facts.

You dont have facts to debate, You lie and distort figures. You claim the
mainstream press is too tainted by Jews to be credible, then go and use news
reports as *proof* of your assertions

How much dumber can you get


>
>"Democracy, I do not conceive that God did ordain as a fit government
>for church or commonwealth. If the people be governors, who shall be
>governed?" (John Cotton)

Any bigotted, racist hate peddling morons deserve the ridicule and derision
you enjoy in this newsgroup. I challenge you to show TWO persons in this
group who agrees with ANYTHING you have posted, outside of your WIN
recitation artists

Youre a pathetic bunch of losers. with ZERO support

protocol13

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Hispanic is not a race, but a cultural and ethnic group. They may be
white, black, asian and indian. About 33% of all Mexicans are full blood
Indians. Blacks are the
majority in the Dominican Republic and are about 33% of all Colombians.
Indians are the majority in Guatemala, Ecuador, Peru and Bolivia. Whites
(mostly of Spanish origin are significant percentage of Argentineans,
Costa Ricans, Colombians, Uruguayans, Chileans and Cubans. There is a
large number Asian Hispanics in
Panama, Peru and Colombia.

"The Devil's AdvocateŠ" wrote:

protocol13

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Any person that professes the beliefs that Johnson has is not a Catholic.
Until the 1960 Catholics in the US could not be president. In the 1800's and
the early 1900's
the KKKand the "Know Nothing" WASP organizations burned and destroyed
Catholic churches and persecuted Catholics in this country. Today, the
Catholic
church has over 100 million Catholics in Black Africa and 100 million Catholics
in Asia. There is over 70 million Black Hispanic Catholics in Latin America and
over 60 million Native Indian Hispanic Catholics in Latin America.

Thomas Mohr wrote:

> Just a few questions.
>
> 1) How can you be a Roman Catholic and an antisemite at the same time ? I
> mean, Jeseus was a Jew, the twelve Apostles were Jews, The Bible was written
> by Jews, etc., etc. So how can you be such an antisemite and a Roman
> Catholic ?
> 2) How can you be a Roman Catholic and defamate the character of people ?
> 3) How can you be a Roman Catholic and see other humans as that inferior and
> bad ?
> 4) How can you be a Roman Catholic and offend people in public for no reason
> ?


>
> JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > We White Nationalists often spend time arguing with the Multiracialists
> > about whether or not the White race is superior to the Negro race. Such
> > arguments, for the most part, are a waste of time. The bottom line is
> > that the White man and the Black man have major physical and
> > psychological differences.
>

> Scientific proof please ?


>
> > These differences are so great that it is
> > impossible for the two races to live in the same society without
> > constant racial warfare of one type or another.
>

> Scientific proof please ?


The Devil's Advocate©

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On 07 Mar 1999 23:59:17 PST, protocol13 <pr...@concentric.net> wrote:

>Hispanic is not a race, but a cultural and ethnic group. They may be
>white, black, asian and indian. About 33% of all Mexicans are full blood
>Indians. Blacks are the
>majority in the Dominican Republic and are about 33% of all Colombians.
>Indians are the majority in Guatemala, Ecuador, Peru and Bolivia. Whites
>(mostly of Spanish origin are significant percentage of Argentineans,
>Costa Ricans, Colombians, Uruguayans, Chileans and Cubans. There is a
>large number Asian Hispanics in
>Panama, Peru and Colombia.

Do these Asians consider themselves to be Hispanic, or do they simply
see themselves as Asians living in Latin-America?

JJohns...@webtv.net

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I don't care how many non-Whites are Catholic. As long as they practice
their Catholicism outside my country, I urge them to be Catholics.

The KKK of the 1800's era was not anti-Catholic. You are thinking of the
KKK of the 1920's. Also, I am not a member of the Klan, but the Klan
does not exclude Catholics from its membership anymore. Actually, I
consider pre-Vatican II Catholicism a superior form of worship than
protestantism. We White Nationalists don't agree on everything, but we
agree that our race is our nation, and that is the important thing.

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JJohns...@webtv.net

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I would agree that the word "hispanic" is not a racial term, but mestizo
is. Most mestizos are referred to as "hispanic", and on a job
application "hispanic" is listed as a race for some reason.

Thomas Mohr

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JJohns...@webtv.net wrote:

> I don't care how many non-Whites are Catholic. As long as they practice
> their Catholicism outside my country, I urge them to be Catholics.

Johnson, for me you are not a Catholic. Because if you would be a Catholic,
you would care. According to the church, Catholicism is the only way to get
true salvation and the church *always* cared *very much* that other people
are catholic and saved. In my opinion you are not even a christian. It is
written: "You can not serve two masters, God and the money". You also can
not serve two masters: God and the genes.

Christianity is about love, mercy and humanity, altruism and to take a human
s a human. You preach hate, hostility, brutality, egoism and "white=huamn,
non-white= huamn ?? Not really". Read the Bible: it is full of evidence that
Jesus included people who were not considered as "inside" in the sense of
your tribal laws. Jesus always showed a deep compassion for "the others",
"the outsiders", especially if they were in need. In fact he often sharply
critizized Pharisees ofr exactly the point of view you preach: "love inside,
hate outside".


protocol13

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They see themselves as Colombians or Peruvians or Brazilians or..

"The Devil's AdvocateŠ" wrote:

Aviator

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<JJohns...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>I don't care how many non-Whites are Catholic. As long as they practice
>their Catholicism outside my country, I urge them to be Catholics.
>
>The KKK of the 1800's era was not anti-Catholic. You are thinking of the
>KKK of the 1920's. Also, I am not a member of the Klan, but the Klan
>does not exclude Catholics from its membership anymore. Actually, I
>consider pre-Vatican II Catholicism a superior form of worship than
>protestantism. We White Nationalists don't agree on everything, but we
>agree that our race is our nation, and that is the important thing.

Funny thing. Roger was telling us how you guys attend KKK Rallies and get
arrested. Youre nation is pretty minute considering that you have SOOO
little support. Dont lump the moderate majority in with you bigotted hate
peddlers. They dont buy your shit

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