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Janet Erdile

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Jun 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/17/99
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Hi,
I am new to this newsgroup however, I'm not new to California.
I moved away from California after 43 years and miss it
terribly. I would be interested in what is happening in California
these days. Am I in the right newsgroup?
If not, any suggestions on where I should look?

Janet Erdile

Earn Extra Income and Drive a Free Car
Janet_...@Drive-a-free-car.com
http://Drive-A-Free-Car.com


ThePsyko

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Jun 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/17/99
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In article <Ze6a3.2199$26.1...@typhoon.mbnet.mb.ca>,

I'm new to this group as well (but still living in California), but it
seems to me that after a cursory scanning of the headers in here that
perhaps this group should be called alt.racial.tension instead of
alt.california
--
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"God told me to skin you alive"
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Nopalito

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Jun 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/17/99
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In article <7kb73g$nag$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
ThePsyko <TheP...@itookmyprozac.com> wrote:

> I'm new to this group as well (but still living in California), but it
> seems to me that after a cursory scanning of the headers in here that
> perhaps this group should be called alt.racial.tension instead of
> alt.california

You're right, but then, newsgroups are what we make them. Alt.california
would be more like what you and Janet expected it to be (and according
to its charter and my opinion, what it should be) if people made
postings appropriately. You always have the option of ignoring the
racially-oriented posts and posting on the specific topics that interest
you, and that you feel are more suited to the group's purposes.

- Dean

--
"Jazz is freedom"
- Miles Davis

Michael Ejercito

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Jun 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/17/99
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In article <Ze6a3.2199$26.1...@typhoon.mbnet.mb.ca>, "Janet Erdile"
<Janet_...@Drive-A-Free-Car.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> I am new to this newsgroup however, I'm not new to California.
> I moved away from California after 43 years and miss it
> terribly. I would be interested in what is happening in California
> these days. Am I in the right newsgroup?
> If not, any suggestions on where I should look?
>
> Janet Erdile
>
> Earn Extra Income and Drive a Free Car
> Janet_...@Drive-a-free-car.com
> http://Drive-A-Free-Car.com

Yes,you would be in the right newsgroup. Just yesterday,the Calstate
legislature passed a budget and sent it to the governor of California.


Michael


CSULB College Republicans


For Truth,Justice,Freedom,and the American Way

The Devil's Advocate©

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Jun 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/17/99
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On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:18:05 GMT, ThePsyko
<TheP...@itookmyprozac.com> wrote:

>I'm new to this group as well (but still living in California), but it
>seems to me that after a cursory scanning of the headers in here that
>perhaps this group should be called alt.racial.tension instead of
>alt.california

No kidding, but most of the hate comes from people that don't even
live in California, they have just attached themselves to this
newgroup like ticks.
--

regards,
The Devil's Advocate

"Your Warrant Is In Question"
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Ms. Morrow

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Jun 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/18/99
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In article <Ze6a3.2199$26.1...@typhoon.mbnet.mb.ca>, Janet Erdile
<Janet_...@Drive-A-Free-Car.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> I am new to this newsgroup however, I'm not new to California.
> I moved away from California after 43 years and miss it
> terribly. I would be interested in what is happening in California
> these days. Am I in the right newsgroup?
> If not, any suggestions on where I should look?


CA changes as new tides might come in. Presently Southern California
is mostly Hispanic and it comes as a jolt. (Seriously.) No has any
tolerance for college student protests-those days are over. CA is
struggling against communism presently and there is a link to the fact
that CA is now the lowest scorers academically. (The ignorant can't do
for self syndrome.) Religiously you are free here. A person with
religious bigotry would one day discover he or she can't make it
through the parking lot.

The CA of 43 years ago is long gone. The lovely Orange County suburbs
are just stucco slums without one tree or open field left. Piles upon
piles of people, an ever increasing birth rate (And illiteracy) as
conditions worsen, and the smog is unfathomable. L.A. County is now
one of the poorest in the nation.

Miguel O'Pastel

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Jun 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/18/99
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Of course all these conditions were not caused by native Californians, but
by carpetbaggers from the East who having fouled their nests are here
fouling ours.
M

Ms. Morrow wrote in message <180619991503210971%chow...@pacbell.net>...

Tom

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Jun 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/18/99
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On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:36:32 -0700, "Miguel O'Pastel"
<heresl...@you.kid> wrote:

>Of course all these conditions were not caused by native Californians, but
>by carpetbaggers from the East who having fouled their nests are here
>fouling ours.
>M

Care to mention the millions of carpetbaggers from south of the
border? I give blame to both. So can you.

-Tom

David Gleason

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Jun 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/18/99
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Ms. Morrow <chow...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:180619991503210971%chow...@pacbell.net...

> CA changes as new tides might come in. Presently Southern California
> is mostly Hispanic and it comes as a jolt

"Mostly" to me means over 50% or a majority. Southern California is not over
50% Hispanic, so your statement is false.

Jafo

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Jun 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/18/99
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On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:36:32 -0700, Miguel O'Pastel wrote:

>Of course all these conditions were not caused by native Californians, but
>by carpetbaggers from the East who having fouled their nests are here
>fouling ours.

Did the carpetbaggers from the East bring poverty?

>Ms. Morrow wrote...


>|CA changes as new tides might come in. Presently Southern California

>|is mostly Hispanic and it comes as a jolt. (Seriously.) No has any
>|tolerance for college student protests-those days are over. CA is
>|struggling against communism presently and there is a link to the fact
>|that CA is now the lowest scorers academically. (The ignorant can't do
>|for self syndrome.) Religiously you are free here. A person with
>|religious bigotry would one day discover he or she can't make it
>|through the parking lot.
>|
>|The CA of 43 years ago is long gone. The lovely Orange County suburbs
>|are just stucco slums without one tree or open field left. Piles upon
>|piles of people, an ever increasing birth rate (And illiteracy) as
>|conditions worsen, and the smog is unfathomable. L.A. County is now
>|one of the poorest in the nation.

--
~ Jafo http://www.cheetah.net/jafo/


Miguel O'Pastel

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Jun 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/18/99
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The ones from the South work on the landscape. The others destroy it.
M

Tom wrote in message <376ad87e....@news.uark.edu>...


|On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:36:32 -0700, "Miguel O'Pastel"

|<heresl...@you.kid> wrote:
|
|>Of course all these conditions were not caused by native Californians, but
|>by carpetbaggers from the East who having fouled their nests are here
|>fouling ours.

Miguel O'Pastel

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Jun 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/18/99
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Yes.
M

Jafo wrote in message <377befa7...@news1.cheetah.net>...


|On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:36:32 -0700, Miguel O'Pastel wrote:
|
|>Of course all these conditions were not caused by native Californians, but
|>by carpetbaggers from the East who having fouled their nests are here
|>fouling ours.
|

The Devil's Advocate©

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On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:03:21 -0700, "Ms. Morrow"
<chow...@pacbell.net> wrote:

>The CA of 43 years ago is long gone. The lovely Orange County suburbs
>are just stucco slums without one tree or open field left.

Stop spreading misinformation. I'm sure that demographically, Orange
County is probably in the top 10% if not 5% of the wealthiest counties
in America.

> Piles upon
>piles of people, an ever increasing birth rate (And illiteracy) as
>conditions worsen, and the smog is unfathomable. L.A. County is now
>one of the poorest in the nation.

And do you have proof that L.A. County is amongst the poorest in the
nation? This is utter bullshit.

Miguel O'Pastel

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Jun 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/19/99
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I assume you are not a native Californian.
M
Douglas K Long wrote in message <7kgpsm$lh$1...@news.uta.edu>...
|Miguel O'Pastel (heresl...@you.kid) wrote:
|: The ones from the South work on the landscape. The others destroy it.
|
| The ones from the south - south of the border - *assault* the
| landscape. When I was growing up on the San Fran Peninsula,
| all the gardeners were Japanese. They worked quietly - no
| leaf blowers - and artfully and usually alone or in pairs.
| The south-of-the-border bunch arrive in packs, hack at
| the shrubbery, do dumb stuff such as cut grass when its
| wet, run their leaf blowers incessantly, and generally
| do the sorry job of artless primitives. While they do
| *work* on the landscape, the landscape would be better
| off it they didn't.

ken berg

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Jun 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/19/99
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Oh, California is not as bad as some would say. Still, there is a huge
pollution problem here. Garbage lines most of the streets and trash blows
incessantly down the highways and ditches.

Also, some Californians seem not to like trees. I mean, a lot of houses
have not even one single tree in the yard. I would think folks would want
some shade in summertime, but that's just my opinion.

It is not my business to care whether someone has a tree in their yard, but
why we do not hire folks to clean our streets, and why we do not enforce the
littering laws is beyond me.

Other large metropolitan areas are clean and tidy, and California could be
clean as well. California is one of the most beautiful states in the
nation, but at present she is being buried under old newspapers, fast food
wrappers, beer bottles etc..

If I were king, nothing would get done until the streets and byways of this
great state were clean and tidy. The cities would put folks on the payroll
whose sole job it would be to pick up trash and maintain the streets,
ditches, and vacant lots. Those who owned vacant lots would be billed for
their clean up. Those without jobs would have jobs, good pay, and would
feel proud of what they accomplish.

Everyone feels better when things are nice and neat. If folks feel better,
they act better toward each other.

Ken Berg
go...@inreach.com


David Gleason wrote in message ...


>
>Ms. Morrow <chow...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>news:180619991503210971%chow...@pacbell.net...

>> CA changes as new tides might come in. Presently Southern California

The Devil's Advocate©

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Jun 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/19/99
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On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:42:18 -0700, "Angelmoon"
<computer...@exite.com> wrote:

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>But they went bankrupt a few years ago.

I'm talking about the general affluence of the population, not how
much the county has in the bank.

Miguel O'Pastel

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Jun 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/20/99
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The oranges are definitely gone.
M

The Devil's Advocate© <--nojunk--...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
<376ad0f...@news.earthlink.net>...


|On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:03:21 -0700, "Ms. Morrow"
|<chow...@pacbell.net> wrote:
|
|>The CA of 43 years ago is long gone. The lovely Orange County suburbs
|>are just stucco slums without one tree or open field left.
|
|Stop spreading misinformation. I'm sure that demographically, Orange
|County is probably in the top 10% if not 5% of the wealthiest counties
|in America.
|
|> Piles upon
|>piles of people, an ever increasing birth rate (And illiteracy) as
|>conditions worsen, and the smog is unfathomable. L.A. County is now
|>one of the poorest in the nation.
|
|And do you have proof that L.A. County is amongst the poorest in the
|nation? This is utter bullshit.

Miguel O'Pastel

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Jun 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/20/99
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That's because of white LOOTers.
M

Angelmoon wrote in message <7kf036$du1$1...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
|x-no-archive:yes


|
|The Devil's Advocate© <--nojunk--...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
|<376ad0f...@news.earthlink.net>...
|>On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:03:21 -0700, "Ms. Morrow"
|><chow...@pacbell.net> wrote:
|>
|>>The CA of 43 years ago is long gone. The lovely Orange County suburbs
|>>are just stucco slums without one tree or open field left.
|>
|>Stop spreading misinformation. I'm sure that demographically, Orange
|>County is probably in the top 10% if not 5% of the wealthiest counties
|>in America.
|>

Alan Earle

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Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
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Angelmoon wrote:

>It would seem you are in the correct group, but you may not like it here
>anymore.
>Taxes-up
>Cost of living-up
>Illegal immigration-up
>Pollution-up
>Percent of people on welfare-up
>Quality of life-down


Being fluent in Spanish and Vietnamese helps too.


Miguel O'Pastel

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Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
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It is not as racist in the North.
M

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