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Hisler

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Dec 15, 2009, 12:19:03 AM12/15/09
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http://www.businessinsider.com/top-10-international-catastrophes-2009-12#mexico-runs-out-of-oil-6

Risk: Mexico is the world's 12th largest economy, so it's worth paying
attention to.
The agony of the drug war aside, the primary issue is energy. "All of
their producing fields are in terminal decline; all of them are failing
at some of the fastest rates in the world," says Zeihan. Within 10
years, he predicts Mexico will become a "major" energy importer.

As the Oil Drum blog has noted on Mexico's oil, "suddenly and soon the
questions as to where the replacement hundreds of thousands of barrels
are going to come from is going to stop being an almost academic exercise."

Adds Zeihan: "What happens when all of a sudden its primary source of
income disappears? Mexico is flirting with failed state status now."


CIA Factbook economic discussion: The administration continues to face
many economic challenges including the need to upgrade infrastructure,
modernize labor laws, and allow private investment in the energy sector.
[President] Calderon has stated that his top economic priorities remain
reducing poverty and creating jobs.

Export partners: US 80.2%, Canada 2.4%, Germany 1.7% (2008)

Import partners: US 49%, China 11.2%, Japan 5.3%, South Korea 4.4%,
Germany 4.1% (2008)

Scotius

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Dec 15, 2009, 1:48:20 AM12/15/09
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:19:03 -0700, Hisler <His...@cocks.net> wrote:

>http://www.businessinsider.com/top-10-international-catastrophes-2009-12#mexico-runs-out-of-oil-6
>
>Risk: Mexico is the world's 12th largest economy, so it's worth paying
>attention to.
>The agony of the drug war aside, the primary issue is energy. "All of
>their producing fields are in terminal decline; all of them are failing
>at some of the fastest rates in the world," says Zeihan. Within 10
>years, he predicts Mexico will become a "major" energy importer.
>
>As the Oil Drum blog has noted on Mexico's oil, "suddenly and soon the
>questions as to where the replacement hundreds of thousands of barrels
>are going to come from is going to stop being an almost academic exercise."
>
>Adds Zeihan: "What happens when all of a sudden its primary source of
>income disappears? Mexico is flirting with failed state status now."
>

Duh! Mexico has been flirting with that since it started being
a destination for wealthy foreigners who wanted to hide money, and a
place where even drug lords can have influence at the highest levels
of government.
It's so corrupt it's unbelievable, and instead of supporting
the Zapatista rebels like the US should have done, it allowed them to
languish. Now Mexico sends it's angry young men to the US to get jobs
and start the "reconquista", and greedy American business interests
allow it to get wage standards driven down.
The Republicans pretend to be against it and the Dems say
they're for it for humanitarian reasons, meaning legal Americans have
no say in politics regarding illegal immigration. Welcome to the USA -
home of the free(-loading corporate bosses).
The illegals aren't to blame either. You'd do the same if you
had to. See that the laws that ensure they can't be paid less than an
American worker get enforced, and they won't be exploited, while the
incentive to allow further immigration will evaporate.

john redthorn

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Dec 15, 2009, 8:00:26 PM12/15/09
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when the oil runs dry America will most certainly give aid to Mexico by
way of barrels. The less income in Mexico the more illegals here. It is
just bad for us all around.
We will be giving them cash food and oil

Hisler

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Dec 16, 2009, 12:25:06 AM12/16/09
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Mexico would then be to the U.S. what Chechnya became to Russia. It
would be far cheaper and more effective to have a ban on Mexicans and
other Latin Americans from entering the U.S., even as tourists. They're
not hard to identify. America is in no position to be the caretaker of
failed Third World countries. Our experiment with tolerance and
diversity should go the way of slavery and the use of DDT. It's a
failed experiment. Latin Americans should be feared the way we once
feared the Germans and Japanese and the communists. Fear is a good
thing when based on rational reasons. No need to tolerate a people who
demand that we base our national interests on what is good for Mexico or
illegal aliens.

Tim Crowley

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Dec 16, 2009, 1:01:42 AM12/16/09
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On Dec 15, 9:25 pm, Hisler <His...@cocks.net> wrote:
> john redthorn wrote:
> > Hisler wrote:
> >>http://www.businessinsider.com/top-10-international-catastrophes-2009...

hint: kkk000k a d000dle do.

Americans want no part of your insane hate.

Hisler

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Dec 16, 2009, 1:33:39 AM12/16/09
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I am an American. Don't presume to tell me what I want or don't want,
kkkunt.

GeekBoy

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Dec 16, 2009, 11:57:27 AM12/16/09
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>hint: I'm a racist anti-American piece of shit.
>
>Americans want no part of my insanity hate

Agreed

Day Brown

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Dec 19, 2009, 1:31:27 AM12/19/09
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Hisler wrote:
> Mexico would then be to the U.S. what Chechnya became to Russia. It
> would be far cheaper and more effective to have a ban on Mexicans and
> other Latin Americans from entering the U.S., even as tourists. They're
> not hard to identify. America is in no position to be the caretaker of
> failed Third World countries. Our experiment with tolerance and
> diversity should go the way of slavery and the use of DDT. It's a
> failed experiment. Latin Americans should be feared the way we once
> feared the Germans and Japanese and the communists. Fear is a good
> thing when based on rational reasons. No need to tolerate a people who
> demand that we base our national interests on what is good for Mexico or
> illegal aliens.
Reasonable, but apart from what should be done, what will be done? Will
the USA have the political will to effectively seal the southern border
and shores, or will the immigration cause a complete economic collapse
of the system?

The only lesson in History I can draw, and even that not well, is when
there was a refugee problem along the Danube from drought on the Steppes
that had a domino effect with refugees piling up. Attila tried to
negotiate a deal for them to come in to graze their stock in the
Balkans, but when this broke down, the Danube froze over (from the same
climate change), and masses swarmed in.

Things mite have been easy to handle, but the vast majority of residents
in the empire were serfs and slaves who had no investment in the system
to protect and saw a shot at new more egalitarian management. Stripping
the middle class to further enrich the rich destabilizes.

Course, this time around, the US citizenry has lotsa guns. Things could
spin out of control really quickly, and I'd expect ethnically diverse
areas to have demagogues arise scapegoating minorities, with genocide
the usual result. Some areas, like my neck of Ozark woods, which have
homogeneous populations (here 99.9% white) will pull together seeking
common solutions and exclusion of all outsiders.

Liberals should get a clue. Either export illegals and stop more coming
in now, or watch genocide solve the problem later.

Diogenes

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Dec 19, 2009, 6:40:12 AM12/19/09
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> Liberals should get a clue. Either export illegals and stop more coming in
> now, or watch genocide solve the problem later.
==
It won't be long until we will all be speaking Spanish. Immigration is
going to doom our civilization. If we want to be nondiscrimanatory, we
should stop ALL immigration from all countries, even Canada, England,
Germany, Sweden, Nigeria, Mexico, Israel, Iraq, Iran, Jordan--every one of
them. Some of all of these may have people who are OK and would assimilate,
but we don't have any need for more people. Our population will grow
without importing people from every place in the world.

Iconoclast

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Dec 19, 2009, 1:33:59 PM12/19/09
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Excellent post. I like how you provide an historical example and
apply the lessons from history to the present situation in the United
States of America. Brilliant analysis. Bravo.

Iconoclast

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Dec 19, 2009, 1:34:45 PM12/19/09
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Excellent commentary.

Iconoclast

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Dec 19, 2009, 1:43:45 PM12/19/09
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On Dec 19, 7:38 am, C6...@webtv.net (charles bash) wrote:
> There is no Question about "failed states" It is Not just the 3rd world
> = All Democracies {except a tiny few} . Have policies in place that are
> Actively Destroying Their cultural heritage, their Racial stock and even
> their language.
>
> Just look at Europe! Look at the Disasters!! Piling up!  England?
> Norway?  France? Germany?  Denmark? And others. United States" Sure its
> doomed! Look at the Census projections for population changes next 50
> years!  An overall  White Minority population! And no one  making a
> scene.
>
> There are other Factors too,, (a)  the spiralling National Debt (b)
> Global Free trade and the destruction of our industrial base {c} the
> high Drain on our National substance of the millions of illegal aliens.
> {{ I know that 'think tanks' have contrary views }}. But their Views
> won't finance and reopen the Scores Of Hospitals bankrupted by the
> necessity of treating illegal aliens. The state schiool system budgets
> hurt by the necessity of 'taking in ' so many immigrant and illegal
> alien, non-English speaking children, whose education Costs 90% More in
> Virginia!
>
> We have Traitors in the Congress anxious to bring about the Demise of
> Democracy here with a huge new Amnesty of maybe 25 Million persons
> "Unlike Us' as candidate Obama noted about Pennsylvanians  and their
> "Unwelcome' stance toward such persons {immigrants} who "look different
> than we do"
>
> But Pennsylvanians can't be all bad,,At least  "They Cling To Their Guns
> And Religion!""  Barack  Obama reminded us of this..
>
> No use preaching to the choir on these Dismal topics. But we still have
> some power. We have our Letters!  Letters to the Capitol!. And we can
> make them Sting!! No one has ventured the right kind of Letter to the
> Editor on these Dismal topics. But the right kind of letter can;t hurt.
>      C. Bash
>
> <<< Democracy Is Difficult To Make Fit Mitt A Multicultural Society! <<<
> ==o== chancellor helmut schmidt ,
>
> <<< All Great Civilizations Die By Suicide = Not From Murder <<< ==o==
> arnold toynbee ,, historian emeritus,
>
> ~ ~ It is Unbelievable that the US Congress listened to Senator Ted
> Kennedy and his speeches on 'Multiculturalism'! All the Evils that he
> listed as "possible' Won't Happen! Pat Buchanan in his book "Death of
> The West" points out in last chapter what all these Evils were and How
> THEY ALL Developed anyway! ~ ~

I believe that posts on usenet have far more power than a letter to
"the editor." Newspaper editors may have at one time held great
influence over politics, but now they have been reduced to being the
equivalent of the communist party hacks for Izvestia, Pravda and the
Tass News Agency in the former USSR. I recall that the Denver Post
and Rocky Mountain News would attack Congressman Tancredo at every
opportunity with smears and lies, and Tancredo would win by over 70
percent of the vote in his District until he retired. Most American
newspapers have become mouthpieces for La Raza and illegal immigration
-- and as a result they are losing advertising because businessmen
don't want to offend their potential customers by supporting anti-
American, anti-White, pro-illegal alien propaganda rags. Not to
mention that every newspaper puts out word for word exactly the same
"news" coming out of the Ministry of Truth in the District of
Criminals.

Day Brown

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Dec 20, 2009, 1:34:19 AM12/20/09
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Iconoclast wrote:
>> Liberals should get a clue. Either export illegals and stop more coming
>> in now, or watch genocide solve the problem later.
>
> Excellent post. I like how you provide an historical example and
> apply the lessons from history to the present situation in the United
> States of America. Brilliant analysis. Bravo.
Grateful of agreement when found. Of course, we know of the decline in
academic performance with every generation since Eisenhower. So, why
would we expect people to be familiar with historical examples?

I was lucky; got polio for my 7th birthday, right after I learned to
read. They put in the hospital where all I could do was read. Then in
school, while they sent the other boys onto the ball field, they sent me
to the library. How many other boys began reading Plato at 14?

I didnt get a lot of it, but I saw questions the bible didnt even know
about, much less answers. I also saw that none of my teachers was as
gifted as Socrates; an insight they did not care for.

In my teens I read Ayn Rand; but when mature, I read Nietzsche, and saw
she never had an idea she didnt steal from him. I also saw how the Nazis
claimed him as a patron saint, and saw further how he described
anti-Semites. "And I am equally out of patience with those newest
speculators in idealism called anti-Semites, who parade as
Christian-Aryan worthies and endeavor to stir up all the asinine
elements of the nation by that cheapest of propaganda tricks, a moral
attitude." The liberals were so lacking in scholarship they never caught
the Nazis at the misrepresentation of Nietzsche's positions.

And how many guys have bought issues of Cosmopolitan and Glamour to see
what young women are being told? You dont see the young women here cause
they have moved on. Already smart thirtysomething, now less sexy, women
see they'll never meet Mr Wright, and are going to fertility clinics.
They are blowing off the perfect marriage to have the perfect baby. Who
will grow up to be lots smarter and more sociable than the posters.

But so far as I can tell, they are all WHITE. This is the Uberwench, and
they are going to take over the world. Eugenics run by Capitalism, not
government. Neither Liberals nor Conservatives can do diddly about it. I
expect non-white women will pick up on what these upscale Uberwench are
doing, and then also go to fertility clinics since the men in their
communities dont support the kids anyway. And we both know they will be
using Aryan lines of the Y chromosome. No way to stop that either.

Either way, the kids will be far more talented and able to compete in
the capitalist global market, and thus better able to take good care of
momma later in life. And every generation will be whiter. Darwinianism.

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