Re: two cents wanted NX7 vs SolidEdge - Whats the diff??
Cliff
>On Oct 24, 11:05�am, "billynev...@gmail.com" <billynev...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> Hi,
>> � Please elucidate and illuminate to your harts' contents on the
>> differences, perceived and experienced, �between Solid Edge and NX6/7.
>> Will Solid Edge ever be absorbed into NX and offered as NX8 Light ?
>> (gh and no e at the end - Light)
>> �I am interested in the CAM capabilities of each. Looking for multi
>> axis lathe(Integrex IV with a turret, Mori NT with a turret, Star SB
>> and SRs) and run o-the-mill (ha-ha) 3D vertical mills. From drawing
>> and importing to post creation and editing.
>>
>> �Thank you for your time
>
>> I am interested in the CAM capabilities of each.
>
>Solid Edge ST2 has zero CAM capabilities. Solid Edge ST2 has a push
>button transfer of the Solid Edge ST2 file to NX CAM Express. NX CAM
>Express has the same user interface as NX.
And SE stores CAM data where in it's part database, exactly?
CAM Express is limited to 3 axes work max.
UG is full 5 axes. And a full CAD/CAM (not just CAD) system.
Clueless banquer has no clues.
>Since Solid Edge ST2 and NX CAM Express are made by the same company
>(Siemens) you will never have an issue with file transfer problems
>between the two radically different systems.
Gee, exact same part database binary format, eh?
Exact same annotation entities & views?
And UG parts & data go to SE just fine, right?
LOL ....
>The differences between user interfaces of Solid Edge ST2 and NX are
>just huge. The Solid Edge ST2 user interface is as modern as it gets
>and is what everyone in the CAD business is moving to or has moved to.
>NX has a huge legacy problem and has it's own unique interface. What
>one prefers is a matter of taste. I greatly prefer Solid Edge with ST2
>style of user interface.
You have NEVER used or had either so this is all your usual
uninformed BS & crapola.
>There are supposed to be big changes in NX
>7.5. I don't know what they are but I suspect that they will redo the
>user interface and make it more like ST2.
IOW You have no clues at all, as usual.
>That's a guess and I could
>be wrong. The Solid Edge ST2 user interface is what's called the
>Ribbon Bar.
By MicroSoft, right?
>On the CAD end what the user must now decide is what is best for
>them / what is really the best approach:
>
>1. Direct Modeling: SpaceClaim, CoCreate, KeyCreator.
>
>2. History based Modeling: SolidWorks, Pro-E.
Nice (partial) list of stuff you don't have or use & never have.
>3. Fusion Modeling: Autodesk Inventor Fusion where you can use Direct
>Modeling or History based modeling. If you use Direct Modeling side of
>Inventor Fusion you can transfer your Direct Modeling using the
>"Fusion Change Manager". Lets say you make changes to a History Based
>model using the Direct Editing side of Inventor Fusion. You then
>transfer the modified model into the History side of Inventor Fusion.
>The "Fusion Change Manager" highlights the changes and gives you
>choice to accept them or reject them. If you accept the changes you
>made in the Direct Modeling side of Inventor Fusion your changes are
>imported into Inventor's History Tree as if they were created their in
>the first place! I believe the new version of IronCAD (IronCAD Next
>Generation which is now in the late stages of beta) will also work
>like this. I expect this approach to appear in many more systems as
>well.
IOW clueless buzzword king.
>4. No Fusion: Solid Edge with ST2. One side is History, the other side
>is Direct Modeling... the ST side. You can't make a Solid Edge ST2
>part into a Solid Edge ST2 History based part but you can make a
>History based part into a ST part.
>
>My Opinion:
>
>As time goes on Direct Modeling will continue to get bigger and bigger
>with even more powerful tools and History based modeling with die. I
>feel strongly that History based modeling is a dead-end.
Hence the reasons for it's development & wide use.
By REAL users doing REAL work for REAL pay.
>You and others have a very large range of choices to make now as the
>market continues to rapidly change and fragment. My choice right now
>is Direct Modeling with either Solid Edge with ST2 or SpaceClaim. I'm
>open to trying CoCreate if the user interface gets better. I'd be very
>happy if I never had to use a History based modeler again. History
>based modeling was developed by Russians
LOL .....
>and they have compared
>History based modeling to playing Chess where you have to think many
>moves ahead...
Never your skillset.
Bet you don't know what chess is either.
>No thanks, I don't think manufacturing and modifying others part
>designs should work like that.
No thinking allowed or needed in banquerland.
>You got no responses from idiots like Cliffy Huprich, Tom Brewer and
>the real / fake Joe 788 because they have no fucking clues about
>what's really going on in the CAD world at present. The real / fake
>Joe 788 never had any clues even in the past because he's a CADCAM
>moron and proves it over and over. Very similar to his good buddy
>James Meyette who works for Selway Machine Tool.
IOW Actual users & experts ......
>I hope this helped you because it's a damn good post that most people
>in this newsgroup will never understand or acknowledge.
Yours is a "damn good post" since when, clueless?
>Siemens has a huge job ahead of them to truly modernize NX.... even
>though they just finished redoing their user interface. It's not their
>fault. Things really changed while they were redoing it and many will
>always prefer it to the Ribbon Bar style of user interface that's
>becoming so popular.
Gee, how well does MS software run on UNIX?
>I'm one of the few that really likes what the Ribbon Bar brings to the
>table and think the "kinks" will get ironed out.
>
>Anything else I can help you with?
What kinds of meds are you on?
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Cliff
Cliff
>
>"Joe788" <larry...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Just Published On The Jon Banquer Blog:
>>
>> http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/how-drill-recognition-should-be-done-solidcam-gets-it-right/
>
>Is it me, or is this guy a few fries short of a happy meal?
>
He cannot even find the store.
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Cliff