Looking for scam meetings
Bruce Miller
marketing type scam meetings/interviews. the reasons i do this are for
entertainment purposes and also i find that it has helped my
communication skills. i have also mastered the art of appearing
enthusiastic and naive. let me tell you, nothing is quite as much fun
as asking an MLM-scammer a really damning question in a group setting
with a completely innocent look on your face, and then watching them
stumble over themselves in an attempt to cover up the truth.
i had most recently been "hired" by vector marketing/cutco and was
attending their training seminars up to the point where you have to
pay them money. the few dollars in gas money i spent going there was
well worth the 5hr training sessions. :) so, now i'm looking for some
other MLM-type schemes to patronize in the area. i have been unable to
locate any other ones so far to attend, so i'm posting here to see if
you guys know of any i can get involved in.
my only requirements are:
1. no upfront monetary investment. i want to at least be able to
attend one or two meetings, preferably even a training session or two,
before having to pay (at which point i stop showing up).
2. it has to actually be a scam-like business. i don't feel bad
scamming the scammers, but i don't really want to do that to any
honest businesses.
from what i've heard of Amway/Quixtar, it sounds perfect, but i have
yet to be prospected. i applied for the vector marketing thing online,
but haven't seen any other online applications for similar businesses.
also, my brother's wife was involved in some investments pyramid
scheme as well, but i don't know what the name of the business was or
how she got involved.
any assistance at all is greatly appreciated. :)
-bm3719
SJE
wrote:
An outfit called Primerica sounds like exactly what you're looking
for. Post a resume on Monster and I'm sure you'll get some email from
one of their Regional VPs (*cough*) very soon.
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Bruce Miller
thanks. after running a quick search, Primerica does seem to be a good
candidate. i will be checking them out shortly.
-bm3719
Ross Clement
: hi all. this may sound strange, but i enjoy attending MLM and network
: marketing type scam meetings/interviews. the reasons i do this are for
: entertainment purposes and also i find that it has helped my
: communication skills. i have also mastered the art of appearing
: enthusiastic and naive. let me tell you, nothing is quite as much fun
: as asking an MLM-scammer a really damning question in a group setting
: with a completely innocent look on your face, and then watching them
: stumble over themselves in an attempt to cover up the truth.
Can you post details of some of your most interesting meetings?
Cheers,
Ross-c
Bruce Miller
i tried to write a story for my webpage about my last experience, but
it wasn't reading as all that interesting so i deleted it. i think my
MLM experiences better lend themselves to verbally spoken anecdotes,
as there really is no climax or plot involved in them. this is
probably a result of not getting too involved with them, and just
leaving non-dramatically. i've read some good amway stories, for
example, but they all are of people that actually signed up and stayed
in for awhile. so, several funny things happen in my presence, but
nothing that lends itself to a good narrative. if a story worth
telling does transpire, i will be sure to post it. :)
i have noticed that i can get away with alot more than i thought i
would be able to (ex. showing up 30 minutes late to meetings,
interrupting the speaker, helping myself to office supplies), so
perhaps i'll start pushing the envelope a little more and see what
happens.
-bm3719
holkingers
The Real Bev
> i have noticed that i can get away with alot more than i thought i
> would be able to (ex. showing up 30 minutes late to meetings,
> interrupting the speaker, helping myself to office supplies), so
> perhaps i'll start pushing the envelope a little more and see what
> happens.
Around here people with insurance, real estate and other wealth-building
schemes frequently invite potential members for lunch or dinner at a local
coffee shop (Marie Callender's, Coco's, Denny's, etc.) with some sort of
separate 'banquet' facilities. You might call the coffee shops and ask
about their schedule of such meetings.
Skip the ones held at libraries, they don't serve food.
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Cheers,
Bev
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"Don't force it, use a bigger hammer!"
--M. Irving
Anon
BFH wrote:
> On 16 May 2003 10:52:40 -0700, bm3...@ark.ship.edu (Bruce Miller)
> wrote:
>
>
>>hi all. this may sound strange, but i enjoy attending MLM and network
>>marketing type scam meetings/interviews. the reasons i do this are for
>>entertainment purposes and also i find that it has helped my
>>communication skills. i have also mastered the art of appearing
>>enthusiastic and naive. let me tell you, nothing is quite as much fun
>>as asking an MLM-scammer a really damning question in a group setting
>>with a completely innocent look on your face, and then watching them
>>stumble over themselves in an attempt to cover up the truth.
>>
>
>
> Have you tried Pre-Paid Legal?
>
The Dirty Dozen
The FTC has identified its "Dirty Dozen". These are the twelve scams
most likely to arrive via bulk e-mail in your e-mail box. Here are the
"dirty dozen" and a brief explanation of why each is a scam:
Business Opportunities Scams:
These offers make it sound like it is very easy to start a business that
will earn piles of money without much work, selling or cash. Many of
these "opportunities" are actually illegal pyramid schemes or frauds
that are masquerading as legitimate opportunities to earn money.
Make Money by Sending Bulk E-mail:
These solicitations offer to sell you bulk e mail lists (consisting of
millions of e mail addresses), spam software (usually very poor in
quality), or services to send spam on your behalf. Don't do this.
Chain Letters:
No list of scams would be complete without this old "favorite" - e mail
style. Here you're asked to send a small amount of money (or some item)
to each of four or five names at the top of the list, and then forward
the message including your name at the bottom, via bulk e mail. Many of
these letters claim they are legal - they are not. Further, nearly
everyone who participates in these chain letters loses money. Even if
there is a "product" such as a report on how to make money, it does not
make these schemes legal.
Work-At-Home-Schemes:
The most common work-at-home scam promises that you'll earn money for
stuffing envelopes. For example, you're promised you'll earn $2.00 for
every envelope you stuff. In fact, there never is any real envelope
stuffing employment available. Instead, you pay to register and then
you're instructed to send the same envelope-stuffing ad via bulk e mail
to others. The only money you can earn would come from others who fall
for the scam and pay to register. Finally, if you did actually do work
for one of these outfits (for example, some promise to pay you for craft
work), they'd refuse to pay you and say your work didn't measure up to
their "quality standards."
Health And Diet Scams:
These are similar to the miracle cures offered off-line: ways to lose
weight without eating less or exercising, "scientific breakthroughs,"
"secret formulas" which provide cures for hair loss, and herbal formulas
that liquefy fat cells so that they are absorbed by your body. These
scams often include testimonials from "famous" medical experts you
haven't heard of. Of course, these gimmicks don't work.
Effortless Income:
The newest version offers get-rich-quick schemes to make unlimited
profits exchanging money on the world currency markets. There are lots
of variants, but they all promise vast riches with no work. Beware of
these scams.
Free Goods:
These offers promise expensive items such as computers... for free. They
ask you to pay a fee to join, and then you have to bring in a certain
number of other members. Many of these scams are just disguised pyramid
schemes.
Investment Opportunities:
These scams promise outrageously high returns...and of course, there is
"no risk." Many of these scams are illegal Ponzi schemes, in which early
investors are paid with the money from later investors. This gives the
early investors the illusion that the system works and they are then
encouraged to invest more money (which they eventually lose). The sales
pitches for these offers include claims of high-level financial
connections, that the promoters are privy to inside information, or
promises that they'll guarantee the investment. The promoters are long
gone if you try to take advantage of their "guarantees."
Cable De-Scrambler Kits:
These scams offer kits or information on how to receive cable
transmissions without paying any subscription fees. There are two
problems with these offers: 1) the kits and information don't work; and
2) even if they did work, it is illegal to steal service from cable
television companies. Further, many cable companies have aggressively
been prosecuting cable service theft.
Guaranteed Loans or Credit, or Easy Terms Scams:
There are lots of variants of this scam: home equity loans that don't
require any equity in your home, loans regardless of your credit
history, offshore bank loans, credit cards regardless of your credit
history, etc. Sometimes these offers are combined with pyramid schemes
that offer to pay you for attracting other participants to the scheme.
However, they are scams - the loans don't come through, you are turned
down unless you meet stringent requirements, or the credit cards simply
don't arrive.
Credit Repair Scams:
These scams promise to erase accurate negative information from your
credit file so that you can now qualify for loans, mortgages, or credit
cards. The promoters of these scams cannot deliver. Further, if you
follow their advice and lie on a loan or credit application,
misrepresent your Social Security number, or get an Employer
Identification number from the Internal Revenue Service under false
pretenses, you will be committing fraud and violating federal laws.
Don't fall for this scam.
Vacation Prize Promotions:
Last, but not least, is a scam in which you receive electronic
verification congratulating you because you've "won" a fabulous
vacation, or you've been "specially selected" for this opportunity. The
"deluxe cruise ship" may well be more like a tugboat, upgrades can be
very expensive, and hotel accommodations are likely to be very shabby.
The punch line... which you've heard from us many times before... If it
sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Further, don't buy anything
via bulk e-mail (spam). Your chances of being scammed are astronomical.
Jack
Jack
Moondoggie
Primerica will call you within 30 seconds of clicking ok.
Moondoggie
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