Re: Home Buyer Beware...Realtors® Are Secretly Stealing Your Rights -- Public Service Announcement
Steve Horrillo
On 28-Mar-2006, "Jay Reifert" <true-...@12345true-agent.com> wrote:
> ***************************************************************
> Home Buyer Beware...Realtors® Are Secretly Stealing Your Rights
> ******************Public Service Announcement******************
> ***************************************************************
>
> Better than 99% of all Realtors® have positioned themselves
> to strip you of your right to representation from a buyer's
> agent--representation from a specialist which could come at
> no additional cost to you--just as a result of your going to
> look at homes with them. (THIS IS EVEN TRUE OF OPEN HOUSES.)
>
> You may find it hard to believe, but it's absolutely true.
>
> Even if you live in a state where buyer agency is the default
> relationship, your rights are in extreme jeopardy, as your
> ability to make your own choices is being stolen from you,
> without your knowledge, or consent.
>
> To learn more about this theft...and to aid in protecting
> yourself from becoming a victim of organized real estate's
> biggest, best kept, dirty little secret, visit:
>
> http://www.real-reform.org/pcnonebas.pdf
>
> If you have problems opening the file, you can download the
> latest version of the free Adobe Acrobat Reader at:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
>
> Soon, you are likely to see messages from Realtors® who will
> be wildly spinning lies of omission, or half-truths, in an
> attempt to remove your focus from the substance of what you'll
> find in the free report.
>
> As you consider their protestations, just keep in mind that the
> way to remove all doubt of what is true, is to simply use
> the consumer friendly form that you'll find within the report.
>
> That's your ticket to freedom. That's your protection from
> the ethically challenged who would silently shackle you
> without your knowledge/consent.
Try talking a buyer into exclusive buyers agency. That's when they tell you
they don't want to give up their freedom of choice. I'm all for having a
contract when working with a buyer. In fact I wouldn't handle one without
it. It benefits both of us. Just try getting a buyer to sign a contract. I
don't think demonizing the traditional process is going to get you buyers
for you business but it's an interesting approach. Make them think that
having no contract is bondage and being under contract is freedom. LOL
If you truly were in it to help you would be listing buyer's typical
objections to signing an exclusive buyers agency contract, and teach
realtors how to overcome those objections. In reality far more Realtors get
burned by the buyer because they don't have a contract. Contract or not the
vast majority of agents I know who handle buyers are on the buyers side.
BTW - this in no public service announcement being that at the end you try
to solicit business from these buyers. You make it appear you are trying to
educate but it's clear that it's just a scheme to find buyers. You're on the
right track. Buyer's Agency is a good thing. You're just taking the low
road.
--
Warmest regards,
Steve Horrillo, Realtor / C.Ht. =^..^=
http://BrokerAgentTraining.com http://over100percent.com
Steve Horrillo
On 29-Mar-2006, "Jay Reifert" <true-...@12345true-agent.com> wrote:
> has consistently avoided talking about the issue...undisclosed
> Procuring Cause
What's to talk about? Procuring cause is just common sense business
practice. It works the same way in any company that employs commissioned
sales people. The one who greets and gets the customer to buy gets the
commission. Simple as that. You're trying to make a big something out of
nothing.
Steve Horrillo
On 29-Mar-2006, "Jay Reifert" <true-...@12345true-agent.com> wrote:
> Stay on point, Steve. Let's
> hear you defend the non-disclosure of procuring cause.
Why not start a thread on procuring cause rather than using buzz words like,
"secret" and "theft?" You're trying to toy with peoples emotions. IMO you
would have a better chance being taken seriously if you start talking like
an expert rather than a Buzz Marketing politician. While I understand you
think you've found gold in this procuring cause angle but it's not as you
are trying to present it.
I agree with you that only exclusive buyer's agency should be allowed. The
buyer's agent does most of the work and should be afforded some protection
beyond the impotent procuring cause rule. Yet this is a one sided view. You
need to understand that any industry in the world ultimately has to respond
to what the consumer wants. You're making it sound like Realtors don't want
their client to be contractually bound to them like the seller is. They
would love it if the buyer had no choice but to sign with someone. Doing all
the work then having another agent get the commission is one of the biggest
heart breaks there is for those that handle buyers. The fact is in practice
if given the choice the potential buyer will choose not to sign a contract
just to be shown some houses.
I understand your reasoning. Taking away procuring cause will take away any
shread of protection the buyer's agent has, in the hopes it will force the
agent to force the public into contractual obligation. All I can tell you is
I've been a consumer far longer than I've been a Realtor and I personally
would never put all my eggs in one basket with regards to finding a home.
Why aren't you telling the public the exclusive agent's "dirty little
secret?" That during the contract period they're stuck with you. That even
if they find a FSBO on their own they will owe you your commisssion.
Steve Horrillo
On 30-Mar-2006, "Jay Reifert" <true-...@12345true-agent.com> wrote:
> 3) My clients are not trapped into using my service. They
> know what they can expect from me, and what I expect from
> them. They have the contractual ability to fire me,
How about posting a copy of you your contract so we can see what you're
talking about? If you're not willing to do that this is the last time I'm
going to take you seriously enough to reply to.
Steve Horrillo
On 30-Mar-2006, "Jay Reifert" <true-...@12345true-agent.com> wrote:
> It's
> right here and it will be archived on Google Groups, formerly
> known as DejaNews. You are doing quite the job of immortalizing
> yourself, Steve.
I understand the workings of Usenet very well. You obviously don't, or don't
care. You are spamming newsgroups with a veiled sales pitch and are in
violation of your Terms of Service agreement. But you know that don't you.
Anyone who knows how to read the headers can see you are hiding the name of
your ISP.
Jay Reifert
You're a riot, Steve. My contract is a proprietary document,
built out of years worth of my research, experience and fine
tuning. Why don't you ask Coca Cola to post their secret
recipe here? I have no intention of putting it out here for
you, and your kind, to copy.
I care not, one iota, whether you take me seriously, or
not. My message is not meant to make you happy, safe or
secure. It is to put consumers on notice of how Realtors®
are stealing away their right to representation, without
their knowledge.
So, you just feel free to fade away...
The link, again: http://www.real-reform.org/pcnonebas.pdf .
Thank you for your part in helping me propagate the link,
Steve.
Jay Reifert -- Fitchburg/Madison ****** http://www.real-reform.org
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Jay Reifert
Ahhhhhhhhh, now we slip into yet another diversionary tactic,
don't we? You know you can't attack the message, so now you
put out a petty call for censorship? That isn't going to
work either, you junior fascist.
Why don't you call Laurie Janik, General Counsel of the National
Association of Realtors® over at NAR headquarters in Chicago
and ask Laurie to do something about me? I am just spoiling to
get this fight into the public eye, so that the abuses endemic
with Procuring Cause, the silent theft of home buyer rights,
will come to the forefront of consumer consciousness.
I have no qualms, whatsoever, about the truth of this situation
getting out. Unlike NAR...I have nothing to hide.
Have you bothered Googling me yet, Steve? I'm pretty easy to
figure out by any consumer who wants to do their homework. It
wouldn't be that hard for you to figure out, either.
Thanks for another opportunity to post the link, Steve. Here
it is again... http://www.real-reform.org/pcnonebas.pdf .
Jay Reifert -- Fitchburg/Madison ****** http://www.real-reform.org
http://profiles.yahoo.com/jay_reifert ** http://www.true-agent.com
http://www.madison-real-estate.com
mailto:true-...@12345true-agent.com <-----------Remember to
remove the numbers from
the email address before
hitting send.
Steve Horrillo
On 31-Mar-2006, "Jay Reifert" <true-...@12345true-agent.com> wrote:
> You're a riot, Steve. My contract is a proprietary document,
> built out of years worth of my research, experience and fine
> tuning. Why don't you ask Coca Cola to post their secret
> recipe here? I have no intention of putting it out here for
> you, and your kind, to copy.
Now you're comparing yourself to Coca Cola. LOL. Every agent that dealt with
you and every buyer has a copy of your contract. It's no big secret. If I
thought you ever had any clients or dealings with agents I would ask them to
post it but that would be a long shot.
I figured you wouldn't let the public see how you try to trap buyers.
Legitimate agents use approved forms not home made ones. You're bad news
dude.