autodidacticism and objectivism
Giggles Like a Girl
age to find a school for autodidacts. Today I did
and the #2 son will be attending there in the autumn.
Meeting with the school team I noticed a bookshelf
full of brand new Ayn Rand books including "The
Fountainhead" and "Anthem" among others. Someone
there is either an objectivist or is using the
material to stimulate discussion and exploration.
I would have thought that just one of her books
would have been good enough for the latter purpose
so I am assuming the former, and will be vigilant.
I met four of the five teachers there and all
shrugged (not like Atlas) when I brought the books
up, so I am assuming it was the fifth teacher
who got them. The school also shares some space
with an adult night school so perhaps the books
are not owned by my boy's new school at all. Even
so I don't see what they'd have to do with ANY
publically-funded institution.
The school is designed for autodidacts not doing
well in the normal classroom so a little
individualist romantic heroism could be useful. I
will be watching to be sure that they thoroughly
debunk and discredit any objectivist or
libertarian notions that take root, of course.
In fact I may propose a weenie-roast with the
books as fuel. They do lots of environmental
education stuff at the school too. Burning books
counts as re-using and recycling, right?
--
Giggles Like a Girl
Keynes
Girl) wrote:
>Never imagined how hard it would be in this day and
>age to find a school for autodidacts. Today I did
>and the #2 son will be attending there in the autumn.
>
I too had thick glasses and hairy palms in my youth.
(Oh wait. I just looked it up.)
No.
Burning books contributes to global warming
if you're standing too close with your globes.
Wilson
Nope. Not gonna touch that one either.
--
Wilson
Giggles Like a Girl
What, your hazmat suit is at the cleaners?
Giggles Like a Girl
Key...@earthlinkspam.net says...
>
>On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:41:03 +0000, not.a.s...@now.go.away (Giggles Like
a
>Girl) wrote:
>
>>Never imagined how hard it would be in this day and
>>age to find a school for autodidacts. Today I did
>>and the #2 son will be attending there in the autumn.
>>
>
>I too had thick glasses and hairy palms in my youth.
>(Oh wait. I just looked it up.)
Either way it doesn't make you special; it just
makes you an average absfg'er.
And no doubt someone with hairy palms and thick glasses
would know all about what happens to globes in various
situations, because he's probably done them all.
mulroys
Libertarians.
More leaving for the trough-feeders that way.
"Giggles Like a Girl" <not.a.s...@now.go.away> wrote in message
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Lazarhat
gotta tell you -- objectivists are kinda chewy and most libertarians I
find to pithy for anything other than breakfast meat consumption....
either way you have to mix in a bit of pork fat during the grind to add
taste and make 'em both less dry.
(top postingly yrs,)
-L
(click - thread returns to standard absfg discussion topic)
< spins the wheel >
"mulroys" <xuew...@comcast.net> wrote in
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Giggles Like a Girl
>
>What the hell's your problem? The world need more objectivists and
>Libertarians.
>
>More leaving for the trough-feeders that way.
I recommend lots of exercise, fresh air, vitamins B12,
D and C. A good immune system is essential for
shaking off the Rand virus.
dt
I wanna know where I can get me a trough.
DT
Giggles Like a Girl
Just steal the Rand shelf from your local libertarian
bookstore. They eat that stuff right up...
mulroys
"Giggles Like a Girl" <no...@real.address.okay> wrote in message
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OOOOH GOLLY ! Maybe we can get together at the People's campfire
afterwards! I just love it when everybody sings "Kumbaya," swaying left and
right all the while.
While I don't care for orthodox randroids myself, the simple idea of
rational self-interest will actually benefit society, while socialist BS
just causes misery.
dt
> "Giggles Like a Girl" <no...@real.address.okay> wrote in message
> news:daa93$46721004$4038ecbe$27...@PRIMUS.CA...
>
>>In article <T6mdnTuTE_KHQezb...@comcast.com>,
>>xuew...@comcast.net says...
>>
>>>What the hell's your problem? The world need more objectivists and
>>>Libertarians.
>>>
>>>More leaving for the trough-feeders that way.
>>
>>I recommend lots of exercise, fresh air, vitamins B12,
>>D and C. A good immune system is essential for
>>shaking off the Rand virus.
>>
>
> Which I'll obtain down at the People's dispensary, no doubt.
>
> OOOOH GOLLY ! Maybe we can get together at the People's campfire
> afterwards! I just love it when everybody sings "Kumbaya," swaying left and
> right all the while.
C'mon, now, you know better than that! We sway left, then back to
center. NEVER sway right!
DT
Pete Watters
No. 1 son (who just graduated from USC) and his buddies stole one
of the campus Randies' banners.
http://pete.stone-watters.com/Images/rand.jpg
Pete (chip off the old block...)
Lazarhat
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Love the book on the right on the caaw-fee table! Excellent bathroom
reading. Five stars! That and the fact that the forward was written by
Thomas Jefferson.
-L
(golly, back in my 'college days' we just had a purple flag with the
silhouette of a giant bong in yellow with GDI (Gawd Damned Independents)
lettering).
Luke Clossey
Beauty, but he hung it too high. A notch lower and it would've looked
like the electrical cord was powering the duct tape.
Luke
Giggles Like a Girl
Giggles Like a Girl
says...
Likewise irrational self-interest will cause misery
whilst sensible socialism benefits society.
I think that deserves a big high-five!
Giggles Like a Girl
>
>mulroys wrote:
>
>> "Giggles Like a Girl" <no...@real.address.okay> wrote in message
>> news:daa93$46721004$4038ecbe$27...@PRIMUS.CA...
>>
>>>In article <T6mdnTuTE_KHQezb...@comcast.com>,
>>>xuew...@comcast.net says...
>>>
>>>>What the hell's your problem? The world need more objectivists and
>>>>Libertarians.
>>>>
>>>>More leaving for the trough-feeders that way.
>>>
>>>I recommend lots of exercise, fresh air, vitamins B12,
>>>D and C. A good immune system is essential for
>>>shaking off the Rand virus.
>>>
>>
>> Which I'll obtain down at the People's dispensary, no doubt.
>>
>> OOOOH GOLLY ! Maybe we can get together at the People's campfire
>> afterwards! I just love it when everybody sings "Kumbaya," swaying left and
>> right all the while.
>
>C'mon, now, you know better than that! We sway left, then back to
>center. NEVER sway right!
Well, I lean to the ri-ight, but I'm rooting for the left.
--
Giggles Like a Girl, Wheels of Fire
Lazarhat
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Hey now bay-bee... get into my big black car....
-L
mulroys
"Giggles Like a Girl" <not.a.s...@now.go.away> wrote in message
Any Socialism eventually leads to death-camps.
> I think that deserves a big high-five!
You can high-five each other after the Noam Chomsy reading.
Lee Rudolph
>Any Socialism eventually leads to death-camps.
You're so angry when you're cute.
Lee Rudolph
Lazarhat
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Like the socialists that set up Gitmo? Or Abu Garib? Oh wait, those were
(are) fascists!
>
>> I think that deserves a big high-five!
>
> You can high-five each other after the Noam Chomsy reading.
>
What!?! Is Noam here? You think I can get him to autograph my
girlfriend's boobs?
-L
Not Sure
When I take over, Mulroy will be my Propaganda
Minister.
--
Iam Notsure
Donald Shepherd
>
>
> Any Socialism eventually leads to death-camps.
>
>
Like the Swedish death camps, where people are forced to eat meatballs
and live in barracks furnished by IKEA...
Don
Lee Rudolph
Pete Watters
And lingonberry sauce. Don't forget the lingonberry sauce.
Pete (what the hell is a lingonberry?)
Pete Watters
Shit. Now I have to go find the Commander Cody album again.
Pete
Lee Rudolph
In an emergency, Captain Beefheart will do.
Lee Rudolph ("EeeeeeeeeeelectRICityyyyyyy!!!!")
Pete Watters
Y'know, I think I'm really in a Dan Hicks and His Hot Licks mood.
Pete (like "Long Come a Viper"...)
mulroys
"Lazarhat" <lazarhat@_burnt_crusty_bits_yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Gitmo. Also, did you ever wonder what Abu Gharib was like before we got
there?
mulroys
"Donald Shepherd" <don...@nauticom.net> wrote in message
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OK Sweeden and Norway are sort of Socialisms in stasis. Still, both are
retinking all those gubberment supplied goodies .
Donald Shepherd
Donald Shepherd
> "Donald Shepherd" <dons...@nauticom.net> wrote in message
Sweden has an entire city that is experiencing the Stockholm
Syndrome...
Don
Donald Shepherd
I knew you wouldn't forget, Pete. Lingon is Swedish for dingle.
Don
Luke Clossey
Luke Clossey
Isn't the Stockholm Syndrome just a fancy term for patriotism? Whole
countries are suffering from it, although naturally less nominally than
Stockholm...
Luke
Donald Shepherd
> In article <1182025675.145545.116...@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
I just thought it sounded funny.
Don
Lee Rudolph
>Isn't the Stockholm Syndrome just a fancy term for patriotism? Whole
>countries are suffering from it, although naturally less nominally than
>Stockholm...
THE KIDNAPPING OF THE PRESIDENT
1970
I meant
the kidnapping _by_ the President, of course.
He took all of us hostage, he had his bombs
in that room where he and we were together,
he had certain demands. But it was a ploy:
like us, he had read the reports, listened to
certain genuine victims' accounts of love
they grew to feel for their captors; he wanted
us to love him. Only that.
1982
Some of us were
kidnapped by our parents.--How did I mean this?
Not literally, not at first, not until
I met a child whose father gathered him up
once, into his arms, and ran: ran out of the
playground, out of the mother's sight, out of the
neighborhood. She went to court to get the boy
back. What is it like, to be so desired?
Is it like living in a room full of bombs?
1999
Later, fallen from a window, the boy died.
Later yet: much later: in fact, now, in his
windowless room, a president is holding
himself for ransom. There are many of them.
I cannot keep up with the news, history,
my birthdays. The mother gave away the boy's
undamaged organs, they were small and useful,
and I assume they persist, seventeen years
after his fall, naturalized, in bodies
that know them nearly as well as they know the
backs of their hands.
===
Only the first part is immediately relevant...
Lee Rudolph
Luke Clossey
muddy philosophy. :(
Luke
mulroys
See me after class...
Lazarhat
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Ah. Those in Cuba are Communists, or Marxists at best (or is it at
worst). Canada is more Socialist.
As to the question, nope. Never once wondered about Abu Garib before this
manufactured war because it wasn't my countrymen (and women -- heckuva
job, Lyndie!) disgracing themselves, my country and the prisoners.
I'd imagine there was a lot less naked muslim man pyramids, less threats
of flushing the Koran down toilets and a lot less finger pointing at
exposed genetalia by US Army enlisted personnel.
-L
Giggles Like a Girl
lazarhat@_burnt_crusty_bits_yahoo.com says...
I knew at least one of the other senior citizens around here
would get that. :)
Giggles Like a Girl
Heh.
>> I think that deserves a big high-five!
>
>You can high-five each other after the Noam Chomsy reading.
Actually I see a lot more of that after Rand readings.
Giggles Like a Girl
don...@nauticom.net says...
Well, there must be forced labour there. How else
could you get people to build Sobs and Vulvas?
Giggles Like a Girl
says...
Something that comes from a lingon, I'd wager.
Giggles Like a Girl
says...
>
>
>"Donald Shepherd" <don...@nauticom.net> wrote in message
>news:1182019644....@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 16, 11:18 am, "mulroys" <xuews...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Any Socialism eventually leads to death-camps.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Like the Swedish death camps, where people are forced to eat meatballs
>> and live in barracks furnished by IKEA...
>
>OK Sweeden and Norway are sort of Socialisms in stasis.
Rubbish, they are socialism in practical realisation, as
is Canada, Germany, the UK, the Netherlands, Italy, etc.
etc. etc.. Even when they have a "right wing" party it
is generally flaming socialist by comparison to either of
the American parties.
> Still, both are
>retinking all those gubberment supplied goodies .
US anti-socialists have been predicting the eventual failure
or popular decline of socialism in the democratic socialist
states ever since they began. Fortunately most of those
anti-socialists haven't been silly enough to hold their
breath waiting, but pathetically, they do hang with eager
anticipation on every drop of news that they can interpret
as the decline of socialism.
Giggles Like a Girl
don...@nauticom.net says...
Really. Which city would that be?
Giggles Like a Girl
Nah, Stockholm Syndrome is the opposite of "familiarity
breeds contempt".
mulroys
"Giggles Like a Girl" <not.a.s...@now.go.away> wrote in message
Which had to be bailed out by GM and Ford respectively.
Ned Ludd
"mulroys" <xuew...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
Haha!
Hey, today's Bloomsday!
Ned
Giggles Like a Girl
Imagine a country with a population of less than 9 million
supporting TWO indigenous auto manufacturers for decades.
Canada never even did that, with over 32 million people
and unparalleled resource strength. Getting bought by
foreign firms (not exactly a "bailout" in the same sense
that the US government bailed out Chrysler) only means
that they allow the free market in Sweden. You are free
to attach any significance to such events as you like, of
course, but it doesn't really make your anti-socialist
case seem more realistic...it makes it seem desperate for
confirming factoids.
Lazarhat
My all-time favoUrite Cream song. I especially liked playing it live
with the old band because the beat is so slouchy.
-L
(and who you callin' senior citizen, grandpaw?) ;-)
Lazarhat
$4674ac63$4038ecbe$18...@PRIMUS.CA:
Sell out to Ford. Let underpaid 'merkins make 'em. Which is what they did
with Vulva. Not sure about Sobs. Prolly not since they also make military
jets.
-L
Lazarhat
Sweden is just outsourcing to one of the bigger third-world countries...
namely, the US of A.
-L
(third-world now, thanks to W... heckuva job, Georgie!)
Robert Epstein
> Don writes:
>
>
>>On Jun 16, 11:18 am, "mulroys" <xuews...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Any Socialism eventually leads to death-camps.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Like the Swedish death camps, where people are forced to eat meatballs
>>and live in barracks furnished by IKEA...
>
>
> And lingonberry sauce. Don't forget the lingonberry sauce.
>
> Pete (what the hell is a lingonberry?)
I f*n love lingonberries. try the swedish pancakes at IHOP; that's the
only place I know where you can get 'em.
Robert
- - - - - - -
mulroys
"Giggles Like a Girl" <not.a.s...@now.go.away> wrote in message
> Never imagined how hard it would be in this day and
> age to find a school for autodidacts. Today I did
> and the #2 son will be attending there in the autumn.
>
> Meeting with the school team I noticed a bookshelf
> full of brand new Ayn Rand books including "The
> Fountainhead" and "Anthem" among others. Someone
> there is either an objectivist or is using the
> material to stimulate discussion and exploration.
> I would have thought that just one of her books
> would have been good enough for the latter purpose
> so I am assuming the former, and will be vigilant.
>
> I met four of the five teachers there and all
> shrugged (not like Atlas) when I brought the books
> up, so I am assuming it was the fifth teacher
> who got them. The school also shares some space
> with an adult night school so perhaps the books
> are not owned by my boy's new school at all. Even
> so I don't see what they'd have to do with ANY
> publically-funded institution.
>
> The school is designed for autodidacts not doing
> well in the normal classroom so a little
> individualist romantic heroism could be useful. I
> will be watching to be sure that they thoroughly
> debunk and discredit any objectivist or
> libertarian notions that take root, of course.
> In fact I may propose a weenie-roast with the
> books as fuel. They do lots of environmental
> education stuff at the school too. Burning books
> counts as re-using and recycling, right?
>
OK, This tread is going EVERYWHERE. We've gone to Abu Gharab, Cuba, and
etc. Folks have proudly displayed their BDS. (Bush Derangemant
yndrome.) -I'm suprised that the Jews haven't been blamed yet.
So, Giggles. I have a question. If I HAD to be a character in a book, I'd
like to be Howard Rourke, Henry Rearden, Francisco DiAnconia, Ragnar
Danneskold or any other author's romantic hero. Wouldn't you also like to
live like that?
Or would you rather be the main character in this book?:
http://www.littledemocrats.net/
mulroys
"Robert Epstein" <epste...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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IHOP. -Talk about a death camp.
Ned Ludd
"Giggles Like a Girl" <not.a.s...@now.go.away> wrote in message
>
>>>>> Any Socialism eventually leads to death-camps.
>>>>
>>>> Like the Swedish death camps, where people are forced to eat
>>>> meatballs and live in barracks furnished by IKEA...
>>>
>>> Well, there must be forced labour there. How else
>>> could you get people to build Sobs and Vulvas?
>>
>> Which had to be bailed out by GM and Ford respectively.
>
> Imagine a country with a population of less than 9 million
> supporting TWO indigenous auto manufacturers for decades.
> Canada never even did that, with over 32 million people
> and unparalleled resource strength. Getting bought by
> foreign firms (not exactly a "bailout" in the same sense
> that the US government bailed out Chrysler) only means
> that they allow the free market in Sweden. You are free
> to attach any significance to such events as you like, of
> course, but it doesn't really make your anti-socialist
> case seem more realistic...it makes it seem desperate for
> confirming factoids.
> --
> Giggles Like a Girl
>
Socialism, Marxism, Communism in all forms has been completely
discredited economically world-wide. Even the f*cking CHINESE,
ferchrissake, have embraced Capitalism. Whine all you want, but
you LOST. The game is OVER. Complete capitulation, embarrassment
and disgrace to all forms of collectivism for economic purposes.
Ned
Pete Watters
Any way we can blame the Jews for this?
Pete (just trying to cover all your bases are belong to us...)
Pete Watters
What about the Vatican?
Pete (snort...)
Lazarhat
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
Was that just an example of the Ned touchdown end-zone dance?
"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other
forms that have been tried from time to time." - W.C.
-L
(Havana cigar?)
(Cuba, cuba...)
Lazarhat
news:eldupree-E9F573...@news.west.cox.net:
Shouldn't threads reach their logical conclusion anytime either Nazis
AND/OR Jews are mentioned? It's only fair! Why do the Nazis get to have
all the power?
-L
(stick a fork in it)
Lazarhat
And just like that, Ned falls off his chair due to a paroxysm of
disbelief.
-L
Lee Rudolph
>mulroys writes:
...
>> IHOP. -Talk about a death camp.
>
>Any way we can blame the Jews for this?
Sure, aren't they the ones that nailed the sign with "IHOP" on it
over Jesus's head? (For some reason we never hear about the signs
over the two thieves' heads: "IKEA" and "SAAB". Might be in one of
those Gnostic gospels, I guess.)
Lee "lucky Jesus, always in the middle" Rudolph
Ned Ludd
"Pete Watters" <eldu...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Well pull the Pope off his latest 7-year-old altarboy and ask him.
Ned
(Hey, I was IN Rome two months ago, and I guarantee you Capitalism
is alive and well in the Vatican.)
Ned Ludd
>
>> Socialism, Marxism, Communism in all forms has been completely
>> discredited economically world-wide. Even the f*cking CHINESE,
>> ferchrissake, have embraced Capitalism. Whine all you want, but
>> you LOST. The game is OVER. Complete capitulation, embarrassment
>> and disgrace to all forms of collectivism for economic purposes.
>> Ned
>
> Was that just an example of the Ned touchdown end-zone dance?
> "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those
> other forms that have been tried from time to time." - W.C.
> -L
> (Havana cigar?)
> (Cuba, cuba...)
>
Oh, F*ck 'Em. You know, Jefferson said something like a free
people has to destroy its rulers occasionally if they have any
hope of remaining free. Except the real rulers now are the
corporations. And the legal, federal bodies who are supposed
to check and limit the monopoly power of the corps are in the
pocket of the corps, with the active help of the administration.
Ned
Ned Ludd
>
>>>>>>> Any Socialism eventually leads to death-camps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like the Swedish death camps, where people are forced to eat
>>>>>> meatballs and live in barracks furnished by IKEA...
>>>>>
>>>>> And lingonberry sauce. Don't forget the lingonberry sauce.
>>>>> Pete (what the hell is a lingonberry?)
>>>>
>>>> I f*n love lingonberries. try the swedish pancakes at IHOP;
>>>> that's the only place I know where you can get 'em.
>>>
>>> IHOP. -Talk about a death camp.
>>
>> Any way we can blame the Jews for this?
>> Pete (just trying to cover all your bases are belong to us...)
>
> Shouldn't threads reach their logical conclusion anytime either
> Nazis AND/OR Jews are mentioned? It's only fair! Why do the Nazis
> get to have all the power?
> -L
> (stick a fork in it)
>
They don't. The Master Race gets the Chosen People. And the
Chosen People get the Master Race.
Ah, symmetry!
Ned
mulroys
They want a socialism, but with their enlightened leadership, it'll
actuallly work this time.
-At least JP II did.
Lee Rudolph
>"Lazarhat" <lazarhat@_burnt_crusty_bits_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns9952581159B14...@216.168.3.44...
...
>> Shouldn't threads reach their logical conclusion anytime either
>> Nazis AND/OR Jews are mentioned? It's only fair! Why do the Nazis
>> get to have all the power?
>> -L
>> (stick a fork in it)
>>
>
> They don't. The Master Race gets the Chosen People. And the
>Chosen People get the Master Race.
Hey, how'd the North Koreans get into this?
...Oh. ChosEn, not ChosOn. Nemmine.
Lee "-minjujuui-inmin-konghwaguk" Rudolph
Keynes
Quitcher bitchin. It's the American answer to communism.
Keynes
Kiss kiss.
Randoids are SO romantic.
Ned Ludd
"Keynes" <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote in message
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>
>>>> Socialism, Marxism, Communism in all forms has been completely
>>>> discredited economically world-wide. Even the f*cking CHINESE,
>>>> ferchrissake, have embraced Capitalism. Whine all you want, but
>>>> you LOST. The game is OVER. Complete capitulation, embarrassment
>>>> and disgrace to all forms of collectivism for economic purposes.
>>>> Ned
>>>
>>> Was that just an example of the Ned touchdown end-zone dance?
>>> "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those
>>> other forms that have been tried from time to time." - W.C.
>>> -L
>>> (Havana cigar?)
>>> (Cuba, cuba...)
>>
>> Oh, F*ck 'Em. You know, Jefferson said something like a free
>> people has to destroy its rulers occasionally if they have any
>> hope of remaining free. Except the real rulers now are the
>> corporations. And the legal, federal bodies who are supposed
>> to check and limit the monopoly power of the corps are in the
>> pocket of the corps, with the active help of the administration.
>> Ned
>
> Quitcher bitchin. It's the American answer to communism.
>
It's turning into America's FORM of communism.
Ned
Lazarhat
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
Did you buy one of those Bobblehead Benedict Dolls? They're cool!
-L
Lazarhat
@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:
Thus, they too shall implode.
-L
Lazarhat
ujbnZ2dnU...@comcast.com:
ROTFLMAO
The Vatican 'enlightened'?
Oh stop!
Please.
No really. I'm getting a sideache.
-L
Ned Ludd
>
>>>> Socialism, Marxism, Communism in all forms has been completely
>>>> discredited economically world-wide. Even the f*cking CHINESE,
>>>> ferchrissake, have embraced Capitalism. Whine all you want, but
>>>> you LOST. The game is OVER. Complete capitulation, embarrassment
>>>> and disgrace to all forms of collectivism for economic purposes.
>>>
>>> What about the Vatican?
>>> Pete (snort...)
>>
>> Well pull the Pope off his latest 7-year-old altarboy and ask him.
>> Ned
>> (Hey, I was IN Rome two months ago, and I guarantee you Capitalism
>> is alive and well in the Vatican.)
>
> Did you buy one of those Bobblehead Benedict Dolls? They're cool!
> -L
>
There ain't nuthin' cool, or funny, about Ratzy of the thousand-yard-
stare.
Ned
Luke Clossey
Lee Rudolph <lrud...@panix.com> wrote:
>lclo...@sfu.ca (Luke Clossey) writes:
>
>>Isn't the Stockholm Syndrome just a fancy term for patriotism? Whole
>>countries are suffering from it, although naturally less nominally than
>>Stockholm...
>
> THE KIDNAPPING OF THE PRESIDENT
>
> 1970
> I meant
> the kidnapping _by_ the President, of course.
> He took all of us hostage, he had his bombs
> in that room where he and we were together,
> he had certain demands. But it was a ploy:
> like us, he had read the reports, listened to
> certain genuine victims' accounts of love
> they grew to feel for their captors; he wanted
> us to love him. Only that.
>
>
> 1982
> Some of us were
> kidnapped by our parents.--How did I mean this?
> Not literally, not at first, not until
> I met a child whose father gathered him up
> once, into his arms, and ran: ran out of the
> playground, out of the mother's sight, out of the
> neighborhood. She went to court to get the boy
> back. What is it like, to be so desired?
> Is it like living in a room full of bombs?
>
>
> 1999
>
> Later, fallen from a window, the boy died.
> Later yet: much later: in fact, now, in his
> windowless room, a president is holding
> himself for ransom. There are many of them.
> I cannot keep up with the news, history,
> my birthdays. The mother gave away the boy's
> undamaged organs, they were small and useful,
> and I assume they persist, seventeen years
> after his fall, naturalized, in bodies
> that know them nearly as well as they know the
> backs of their hands.
>
>===
>
>Only the first part is immediately relevant...
>
>Lee Rudolph
>
The other parts get more relevant the more I think about them.
Luke
Luke Clossey
Rumour has it that you can buy big Benedict lollypops at the gate to the
Vatican...
Luke
Not Sure
Is he the last Pope or is that the next guy? I bet the next Pope is
Canadian!
--
Iam Notsure
Not Sure
>
> Rumour has it that you can buy big Benedict lollypops at the gate to
> the Vatican...
>
> Luke
Have you been cheating on your Diet of Worms again?
--
Iam Notsure
Robert Epstein
yeah, you have to be pretty low down to even talk about IHOP, but that's
where I'm at. And the lingonberries are fine and run free.
Robert
- - - - -
Robert Epstein
sheesh, and I never even realized that the entire Jesus story had taken
place in Sweden over pancakes. Damn you Jewish lingonberries, DAMN YOU!!!!
robert
- - - - - -
Robert Epstein
I love it when you talk dirty.
Robert
Giggles Like a Girl
ned...@ix.netcom.com says...
>
>
>"Giggles Like a Girl" <not.a.s...@now.go.away> wrote in message
>news:91e6d$4674c1c0$4038ecbe$59...@PRIMUS.CA...
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Like the Swedish death camps, where people are forced to eat
>>>>> meatballs and live in barracks furnished by IKEA...
>>>>
>>>> could you get people to build Sobs and Vulvas?
>>>
>>> Which had to be bailed out by GM and Ford respectively.
>>
>> Imagine a country with a population of less than 9 million
>> supporting TWO indigenous auto manufacturers for decades.
>> Canada never even did that, with over 32 million people
>> and unparalleled resource strength. Getting bought by
>> foreign firms (not exactly a "bailout" in the same sense
>> that the US government bailed out Chrysler) only means
>> that they allow the free market in Sweden. You are free
>> to attach any significance to such events as you like, of
>> course, but it doesn't really make your anti-socialist
>> case seem more realistic...it makes it seem desperate for
>> confirming factoids.
>> --
>> Giggles Like a Girl
>>
>
>discredited economically world-wide. Even the f*cking CHINESE,
>ferchrissake, have embraced Capitalism. Whine all you want, but
>you LOST. The game is OVER. Complete capitulation, embarrassment
>and disgrace to all forms of collectivism for economic purposes.
"Whining"? Oh golly that's rich. Triumphalism feels so good
it doesn't matter if the foe is imaginary and making imaginary
sounds; just thinking he is makes it all seem real. Hit that
morphine pump one more time, baby.
The sad thing is that it's all just shadow boxing with
petrified definitions. Socialism is not a revolutionary
ideal any more so much as a modus operandi. Americans call
Canada "socialist" because we have a few more features of a
welfare state than they do, but only the nuts think there is
a short greasy playground slide between Canada's socialism
and the horror-show of Lenin and Stalin they have tattooed in
their minds. Even the USA is quite socialist in practice.
Anything short of law of the jungle dog eat dog capitalism
with rich landowners and serfs and nothing in between is too
socialist for some people, but they sound ridiculous in the
presence of the accomplished fact of socialism-in-practice
in all of the developed world. Far from being discredited
it is more popular than ever.
Die-hards who think there's some kind of capitalist vs.
socialist ideological struggle going on (or already won and
lost) are stuck in the past in old debates, and old vanities
mostly shaped by cold-war national-identity propaganda.
Fast forward to the 21st century and we find that what has
been thoroughly discredited is political and economic
ideologies -- not particular ideologies but ideological
thinking in general.
Finally, China isn't an example of the success of
capitalism; it's an example of the success of pragmatism
and non-ideological thinking. The Chinese government still
runs the Chinese economy, but through currency control and
the market rather than through micromanagement of labour.
Lazarhat
@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
Pope Dar-El the Kilted
-L
dt
> Pete Watters <eldu...@cox.net> wrote in
> news:eldupree-2F4290...@news.west.cox.net:
>
>
>>Giggles writes:
>>
>>
>>>In article <f4u7e1$4rs$1...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, dal...@ATnewsguy.com
>>>says...
>>>
>>>>Giggles Like a Girl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article <T6mdnTuTE_KHQezb...@comcast.com>,
>>>
>>>xuew...@comcast.net says...
>>>
>>>>>>What the hell's your problem? The world need more objectivists
>>>>>>and Libertarians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>More leaving for the trough-feeders that way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I recommend lots of exercise, fresh air, vitamins B12,
>>>>>D and C. A good immune system is essential for
>>>>>shaking off the Rand virus.
>>>>
>>>>I wanna know where I can get me a trough.
>>>
>>>Just steal the Rand shelf from your local libertarian
>>>bookstore. They eat that stuff right up...
>>
>>No. 1 son (who just graduated from USC) and his buddies stole one
>>of the campus Randies' banners.
>>
>>http://pete.stone-watters.com/Images/rand.jpg
>>
>>Pete (chip off the old block...)
>>
>
>
> Love the book on the right on the caaw-fee table! Excellent bathroom
> reading. Five stars! That and the fact that the forward was written by
> Thomas Jefferson.
And here I spent all my time tryin' to figure out what was on the teevee...
DT
Donald Shepherd
wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> .
>
> Die-hards who think there's some kind of capitalist vs.
> socialist ideological struggle going on (or already won and
> lost) are stuck in the past in old debates, and old vanities
> mostly shaped by cold-war national-identity propaganda.
> Fast forward to the 21st century and we find that what has
> been thoroughly discredited is political and economic
> ideologies -- not particular ideologies but ideological
> thinking in general.
>
>
>
> Giggles Like a Girl
Quite on! All the ideological skirmishes around here make me feel that
way. They'll be sellin' mukluks in Hades by the time any of our more
vociferous combatants convince each other about anything different.
All these "-ism"s just get so boooorrring!
I think we need a New Movement to fight this. May I propose
"antiismism". It means what it says. Let's all join together and
rebuke those who sharpen the points of their arguments in preparation
for their little contests that nobody important cares about.
Don
Keynes
wrote:
Hell, we know nobody important cares about us.
Do you have to rub it in?
Lazarhat
news:f561d5$an6$2...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu:
He's probably like me. The TV is just background noise.
-L
(until the Daily Show comes on, that is,,,)
Lazarhat
news:844d735oajhfu4fbl...@4ax.com:
Nobody loves us, not even buddhist single mothers!
-L
(sobbing quietly)
Ned Ludd
"Not Sure" <i...@notsure.org> wrote in message
news:Qoodi.1853$W9....@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>
>>>>>> Socialism, Marxism, Communism in all forms has been completely
>>>>>> discredited economically world-wide. Even the f*cking CHINESE,
>>>>>> ferchrissake, have embraced Capitalism. Whine all you want, but
>>>>>> you LOST. The game is OVER. Complete capitulation, embarrassment
>>>>>> and disgrace to all forms of collectivism for economic purposes.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about the Vatican?
>>>>> Pete (snort...)
>>>>
>>>> Well pull the Pope off his latest 7-year-old altarboy and ask him.
>>>> Ned
>>>> (Hey, I was IN Rome two months ago, and I guarantee you Capitalism
>>>> is alive and well in the Vatican.)
>>>
>>> Did you buy one of those Bobblehead Benedict Dolls? They're cool!
>>> -L
>>
>> There ain't nuthin' cool, or funny, about Ratzy of the thousand-yard-
>> stare.
>
> Is he the last Pope or is that the next guy? I bet the next Pope is
> Canadian!
> --
> Iam Notsure
>
Last Pope. Peter just comes back to see Rome burn.
Ned
Keynes
Well, show her yer fine buns.
(That always works.)
Not Sure
> Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote in
>>
>> Hell, we know nobody important cares about us.
>> Do you have to rub it in?
>
> Nobody loves us, not even buddhist single mothers!
>
> -L
>
> (sobbing quietly)
Then we have to create a new cadre of single Buddhist
mothers who will love us. Warm up the Kentucky Jelly
and the Pod Goo! We have work to do!
--
Iam Notsure
Lazarhat
news:i75d73trtd30f7u2b...@4ax.com:
Alas, I am bunless. Cookies, yep. Muffins, yep. Cinnamon rolls, yep. But
no buns.
-L
Lazarhat
@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
Why do I get an image of Kelly LeBrock and hear the "Weird Science" theme
song in my head?
-L
Pete Watters
Reminds me of the time I had to explain to a naive copy editor
why I was rewriting her headline to a story:
"Pastor fondly recalls
mom's hot sticky buns"
Pete (a copy editor has to have a dirty mind...)
dt
> In article <f4v1lb$f09$1...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, dal...@ATnewsguy.com says...
>
>>mulroys wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Giggles Like a Girl" <no...@real.address.okay> wrote in message
>>>news:daa93$46721004$4038ecbe$27...@PRIMUS.CA...
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article <T6mdnTuTE_KHQezb...@comcast.com>,
>>>>xuew...@comcast.net says...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>What the hell's your problem? The world need more objectivists and
>>>>>Libertarians.
>>>>>
>>>>>More leaving for the trough-feeders that way.
>>>>
>>>>I recommend lots of exercise, fresh air, vitamins B12,
>>>>D and C. A good immune system is essential for
>>>>shaking off the Rand virus.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Which I'll obtain down at the People's dispensary, no doubt.
>>>
>>>OOOOH GOLLY ! Maybe we can get together at the People's campfire
>>>afterwards! I just love it when everybody sings "Kumbaya," swaying left and
>>>right all the while.
>>
>>C'mon, now, you know better than that! We sway left, then back to
>>center. NEVER sway right!
>
>
> Well, I lean to the ri-ight, but I'm rooting for the left.
It's just a jump to the left. And then a step to the ri-i-i-i-ight...
DT
dt
> Lee Rudolph writes:
>
>
>>Donald Shepherd <don...@nauticom.net> writes:
>>
>>
>>>On Jun 16, 11:18 am, "mulroys" <xuews...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Any Socialism eventually leads to death-camps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Like the Swedish death camps, where people are forced to eat meatballs
>>>and live in barracks furnished by IKEA...
>>
>>...while listening to ABBA.
>
>
> Shit. Now I have to go find the Commander Cody album again.
>
> Pete
"Son, you're gonna drive me to drinkin'..."
DT
dt
> Don writes:
>
>
>>On Jun 16, 11:18 am, "mulroys" <xuews...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Any Socialism eventually leads to death-camps.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Like the Swedish death camps, where people are forced to eat meatballs
>>and live in barracks furnished by IKEA...
>
>
> And lingonberry sauce. Don't forget the lingonberry sauce.
>
> Pete (what the hell is a lingonberry?)
A freakin' pretentious cranberry.
DT
dt
> On Jun 16, 2:55 pm, lrudo...@panix.com (Lee Rudolph) wrote:
>
>>Donald Shepherd <dons...@nauticom.net> writes:
>>
>>>On Jun 16, 11:18 am, "mulroys" <xuews...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>Any Socialism eventually leads to death-camps.
>>
>>>Like the Swedish death camps, where people are forced to eat meatballs
>>>and live in barracks furnished by IKEA...
>>
>>...while listening to ABBA.
>>
>>Lee Rudolph
>
>
>
> Oh, the horror!!!
>
> Don
There must've been something in the air that night...
DT