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graham

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May 6, 2012, 9:43:34 PM5/6/12
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Janet Bostwick

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May 6, 2012, 11:21:20 PM5/6/12
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On Sun, 6 May 2012 19:43:34 -0600, "graham" <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>http://life.nationalpost.com/2012/05/05/bread-as-political-act-navigating-flour-water-yeast-salt-and-dirty-looks/
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What handsome loaves in the photo! I have no idea what I would do with
such a large loaf, but I covet them.
I read the article. I hadn't realized that there is only anecdotal
evidence against gluten at this time. It seems that there is always
finger pointing going on. Until I have a doctor tell me that I have a
problem with gluten, I will continue to make bread and eat it.
Janet

graham

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May 7, 2012, 9:15:24 AM5/7/12
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"Janet Bostwick" <nos...@cableone.net> wrote in message
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Agreed!
There are too many quacks and so-called "nutritionists" out there these
days, all peddling unsupported nonsense.
Graham


Bertie Doe

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May 7, 2012, 4:05:32 PM5/7/12
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"graham" wrote in message news:9NFpr.36069$Ec.1...@newsfe16.iad...

>http://life.nationalpost.com/2012/05/05/bread-as-political-act-navigating-flour-water-yeast-salt-and-dirty-looks/

Interesting article Graham. The author mentions that the germ is removed to
prevent the flour going rancid and confirmed by 'Longtooth' in members'
comments. Is this true of all the flour we buy? Do any of the Millers sell
germ flour (that we could freeze on delivery).


graham

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May 7, 2012, 4:59:00 PM5/7/12
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"Bertie Doe" <monteb...@ntl.com> wrote in message
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Wholemeal flours still have the wheatgerm and therefore go rancid after a
while. I can by 500g bags of wheatgerm here. It's best to buy it from a
large supermarket with a good turnover so that it is as fresh as possible.
When I do buy it, I keep it in the freezer, as I do with wholemeal flours.
Hovis flour has, AIUI, added wheatgerm.
Graham


Motzarella

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May 7, 2012, 10:55:07 PM5/7/12
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"Janet Bostwick" wrote in message
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Oh how I drooled over that picture! No, not the bread, but the oven!!!!

I pulled out a 5lb "Poilane" type boule on Sunday. Adding to the weight was
a cup of sunflower seeds and a half cup of flax seeds. It has become our
daily bread of choice. (Just cut it in quarters and freeze until need for
one quarter of the bread.) Sliced thin and toasted or as sandwich, not
mention the conduit of some other delicious goodies). This one was for my
surgeon, who I saw today. It was my thanks to him for adding to my life
warranty!!

Alan

Motzarella

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May 7, 2012, 11:01:29 PM5/7/12
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"Janet Bostwick" wrote in message
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While trying to keep my temper in check, I am seriously concerned that these
people who are terrified of gluten are cut from the same cloth as those who
would deprive their children of immunizations because of a highly
discredited quack who has convinced them that it causes Autism. And the
death toll is now rising on measles!

On a more relevant medical issue, how about the prediction that by 2030, 42%
of Americans will be classified as obese! I eat bread, but it is more than
50% whole wheat, contains seeds, on not topped with butter. And I walk 3.5
miles a day.

How about we get seriously upset about subsidies for grains, fats, sugars
and salt. No wonder there is so much of it in our food. It is so damn cheap!
Gluten as a problem is pure B.S. until proven otherwise. If you are gluten
intolerant, don't use it. If you are not, it won't be an issue.

Rant over.

Alan

Ophelia

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May 8, 2012, 6:05:41 AM5/8/12
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"Motzarella" <alz...@frontier.com> wrote in message
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This one was for my
> surgeon, who I saw today. It was my thanks to him for adding to my life
> warranty!!

Congratulations:) I am very pleased for you:))))

Oh yes ... and lucky surgeon too:)
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Barry Harmon

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May 8, 2012, 1:22:48 PM5/8/12
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"Motzarella" <alz...@frontier.com> wrote in
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I like your rant!!!

99.9% of obesity is and always will be calories. If you take in more
calories than you burn up, you will put on weight.

Gluten is just the latest poster child we are using to deflect attention
from where it belongs and give us an excuse for our collective weight
problem. Of course, Americans have always been susceptible to
charletans selling snake oil, especially where food is involved. "Dr."
Graham, the vegetarians, the vegans, the Diamonds, the Atkins Diet, Akai
berries, magic weight loss drinks ... the list goes on forever.

As for subsidies in farm products, good luck on that one! There is too
much money and too many votes involved to get them discontinued.

One of the most egregious lobbies and subsidies concerns sugar, although
there are others that are close. The sugar thing bothers me because of
what sugar has done to the Everglades, which are now in danger of being
the Neverglades.

Barry

Bertie Doe

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May 8, 2012, 7:27:29 PM5/8/12
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"Bertie Doe" <monteb...@ntl.com> wrote in message
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> "graham" wrote in message news:9NFpr.36069$Ec.1...@newsfe16.iad...
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>>http://life.nationalpost.com/2012/05/05/bread-as-political-act-navigating-flour-water-yeast-salt-and-dirty-looks/
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> Interesting article Graham. The author mentions that the germ is removed
> to prevent the flour going rancid and confirmed by 'Longtooth' in members'
> comments. Is this true of all the flour we buy? Do any of the Millers sell
> germ flour (that we could freeze on delivery).
>
/Wholemeal flours still have the wheatgerm and therefore go rancid after a
/while. I can by 500g bags of wheatgerm here. It's best to buy it from a
/large supermarket with a good turnover so that it is as fresh as possible.
/When I do buy it, I keep it in the freezer, as I do with wholemeal flours.
/Hovis flour has, AIUI, added wheatgerm.
/Graham

I must make an effort to increase my wholemeal/wheat intake. I've seen a
recipe which uses 100g white for the sponge and 400g w/wheat for the main
dough. I'll try it this week.



Barry Harmon

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May 9, 2012, 9:20:38 PM5/9/12
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"Bertie Doe" <monteb...@ntl.com> wrote in
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I make a Greek 100% whole wheat, Khoriatiko Psomi, and several others.
Take a look at my site.

Barry

Ophelia

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May 10, 2012, 4:28:00 AM5/10/12
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"Barry Harmon" <john...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> I make a Greek 100% whole wheat, Khoriatiko Psomi, and several others.
> Take a look at my site.

Give the address please, Barry?

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Bertie Doe

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May 10, 2012, 5:09:35 AM5/10/12
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"Barry Harmon" wrote in message
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/I make a Greek 100% whole wheat, Khoriatiko Psomi, and several others.
/Take a look at my site.

Thanks Barry, I've just started this one:-
http://www.shipton-mill.com/the-bakery/recipes/article-390/
Your Khoriatiko Psomi sounds interesting, I will try it next week.






Bertie Doe

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May 10, 2012, 5:13:25 AM5/10/12
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"Barry Harmon" <john...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> I make a Greek 100% whole wheat, Khoriatiko Psomi, and several others.
> Take a look at my site.

/Give the address please, Barry?

I bet the weather's better in Greece Oh.
Barry's site:-
http://artisanbreadbaking.com/about/



Ophelia

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May 10, 2012, 5:56:30 AM5/10/12
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"Bertie Doe" <monteb...@ntl.com> wrote in message
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Thanks:)


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Bertie Doe

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May 10, 2012, 11:44:11 AM5/10/12
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"Bertie Doe" wrote in message news:a11eul...@mid.individual.net...



"Barry Harmon" wrote in message

>I make a Greek 100% whole wheat, Khoriatiko Psomi, and several others.
>Take a look at my site.

/Thanks Barry, I've just started this one:-
/http://www.shipton-mill.com/the-bakery/recipes/article-390/
/Your Khoriatiko Psomi sounds interesting, I will try it next week.

Here are some pics of the above recipe which I doubled to get 16 rolls etc.
http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd220/BertieDoe/?action=view&current=575e41bf.pbw
I used 4" diameter and 3" long, mini loaf tins. The crust and crumb were
nice and soft, but the taste was a bit weak. This may be due to my using
s/mkt flour, so I'll try some of Shipton Mill's artisan wholewheat. I'll use
it on Barry's Greek bread next week.







Barry Harmon

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May 10, 2012, 5:14:48 PM5/10/12
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"Ophelia" <Oph...@elsinore.me.uk> wrote in news:a11d2eFg9tU1
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> "Barry Harmon" <john...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:XnsA04ED91C16FBDjo...@209.197.15.254...
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>> I make a Greek 100% whole wheat, Khoriatiko Psomi, and several others.
>> Take a look at my site.
>
> Give the address please, Barry?
>

http://www.artisanbreadbaking.com

Ophelia

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"Barry Harmon" <john...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Thank you:))

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