Bread and rolls Americans #1 source of salt

[Janet Bostwick]

How is this possible? What a surprise. The article does say that it
is because we eat so much bread.
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/r/30407139/detail.html

Janet

[Boron Elgar]

This was a surprise, even with the idea that people eat a lot of
bread.

There are 2300 milligrams of sodium in a teaspoon of salt. I use maybe
2-3 teaspoons for 8-9 lbs of bread....youch.

Boron

[KenK]

Boron Elgar <boron...@hootmail.com> wrote in
news:5f75j7hldagniibhq...@4ax.com:

I wonder how it would affect the bread if one left out the salt or cut it
way back when making bread? I suspect it would only affect the taste, and
that not so much.


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just after you need it." Steven Wright

[Janet Bostwick]

On 8 Feb 2012 17:01:41 GMT, KenK <inv...@invalid.com> wrote:

>Boron Elgar <boron...@hootmail.com> wrote in
>news:5f75j7hldagniibhq...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:57:19 -0700, Janet Bostwick
>> <nos...@cableone.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>How is this possible? What a surprise. The article does say that it
>>>is because we eat so much bread.
>>>http://www.thebostonchannel.com/r/30407139/detail.html
>>>
>>>Janet
>>
>> This was a surprise, even with the idea that people eat a lot of
>> bread.
>>
>> There are 2300 milligrams of sodium in a teaspoon of salt. I use maybe
>> 2-3 teaspoons for 8-9 lbs of bread....youch.
>>
>> Boron
>>
>
>I wonder how it would affect the bread if one left out the salt or cut it
>way back when making bread? I suspect it would only affect the taste, and
>that not so much.

actually, salt is used to control the growth of the yeast and it
toughens the gluten. Aside from that, bread without salt tastes flat.
I'm sure there must be some sane tweaking room in there. We know that
foods we purchase are more heavily salted to make them appeal more. I
just don't know if bread products are more salted commercially than
the home product.
Janet

[Boron Elgar]

On 8 Feb 2012 17:01:41 GMT, KenK <inv...@invalid.com> wrote:

>Boron Elgar <boron...@hootmail.com> wrote in
>news:5f75j7hldagniibhq...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:57:19 -0700, Janet Bostwick
>> <nos...@cableone.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>How is this possible? What a surprise. The article does say that it
>>>is because we eat so much bread.
>>>http://www.thebostonchannel.com/r/30407139/detail.html
>>>
>>>Janet
>>
>> This was a surprise, even with the idea that people eat a lot of
>> bread.
>>
>> There are 2300 milligrams of sodium in a teaspoon of salt. I use maybe
>> 2-3 teaspoons for 8-9 lbs of bread....youch.
>>
>> Boron
>>
>
>I wonder how it would affect the bread if one left out the salt or cut it
>way back when making bread? I suspect it would only affect the taste, and
>that not so much.

It is an acquired taste. Tuscany is famous for its bread made without
salt. It's great bread, but specifically made to be eaten with
well-flavored items.

Boron

[KingOfGlop]

On Feb 8, 5:23 pm, Boron Elgar <boron_el...@hootmail.com> wrote:

> It is an acquired taste. Tuscany is famous for its bread made without
> salt. It's great bread, but specifically made to be eaten with
> well-flavored items.
>
> Boron

Well that's what Tuscans would have you believe but the real reason
that Tuscan bread is made without salt is because salt was a state
monopoly ( a very lucrative one at that ) so saltless bread was more
of a political and economic statement than a culinary speciality.
Saltless bread tastes like cr*p IMHO and the Tuscan variety is just a
vehicle for political protest akin to the making of salt from seawater
by the followers of Ghandi. Making a virtue out of a necessity is a
very old human activity.And so is being a cynical old curmudgeon<g>

Love

John

[Motzarella]

"Boron Elgar" wrote in message
news:5f75j7hldagniibhq...@4ax.com...

While I do love my salt, I do understand the need to judiciously cut back.
In order to do so, I often do things such as adding raw sunflower seeds
(unsalted) and herbs. Both are recommended ways to cut back without
eliminating flavor. After all, the purpose is to not create one worldwide
Tuscan loaf!


Alan

[Motzarella]

"KingOfGlop" wrote in message
news:22fd413b-6a8a-405a...@db5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...

To add to the motherload of salt veins, how about this one from France. Salt
taxed in France, too. In the Southwest, French roasted lamb included inserts
of garlic and anchovy. More than one way to add you salt (and, no there is
no obvious anchois flavor after three or four hours in the oven.

Alan

[Boron Elgar]

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 20:17:06 -0800, "Motzarella" <alz...@frontier.com>
wrote:

I am one of those fortunate people whose BP readings/health are
unaffected by salt intake. I do not make a habit of deliberately
overindulging, and I keep processed foods to a minimum in the
household, but there is a salt pig on my table and another by the
stove.

Boron

[John White]

In article <hma5j7l4ljnnnk0je...@4ax.com>,

I've forgotten to add salt, and the result was pretty much of a brick.
This was with a bread machine, so I don't know whether it never rose, or
rose and then fell before it was baked, but I won't make that mistake
again. I hope.

[Boron Elgar]

Actually, salt inhibits fermentation, so you bricked it for some other
reason.

Boron

[Janet Bostwick]

On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:44:18 -0500, Boron Elgar
<boron...@hootmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:14:45 -0500, John White
><jc...@jccw.removeme.org> wrote:
>

snip

>>I've forgotten to add salt, and the result was pretty much of a brick.
>>This was with a bread machine, so I don't know whether it never rose, or
>>rose and then fell before it was baked, but I won't make that mistake
>>again. I hope.
>
>Actually, salt inhibits fermentation, so you bricked it for some other
>reason.
>
>Boron

"Bricked It" is a new baking term for me, but it makes a lot of sense.
I will add to my culinary vocabulary. :o)
Janet

[Boron Elgar]

I stole it from those who hack into the OS or firmware of a smartphone
or other electronic device and trash it by accident. That is called
bricking the device. Seemed like a good steal.

Boron

[John White]

In article <irt7j7dtlvpdd6dj4...@4ax.com>,

No, it was definitely the lack of salt. Standard recipe, same yeast
worked fine before and after the failure. That's why I suggested that it
might have risen and then fallen before the baking cycle began.

I could probably replicate the experience, but I definitely don't want
to!

[Ophelia]

"Janet Bostwick" <nos...@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:8e08j7h485hbt7v5j...@4ax.com...

... and mine if that is alright with you:)

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[Krypsis]

It sure is. A "failed" loaf has the density of a brick,the right shape
and, with a bit of luck, the right colour!

Have seen the term used on ancient computer hard drives which were about
the size of a brick and weighed as much. A more common term for a failed
hard drive was "doorstop" but "brick" was used by a few people.

--

Krypsis

[Attila.Iskander]

"Janet Bostwick" <nos...@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:8e08j7h485hbt7v5j...@4ax.com...

The few times, counted on one hand, I ended up with a doorstop was when I
left out the yeast.
Usually when prepping the breadmaker and being interrupted.
(The joys of young kids and an old, old dog with TB (Tiny Bladder))


Since then, the kids have grown up, the dog has passed away, and I stopped
using a breadmaker.

Does anyone think that If I wrote a (Country) song about young kids, dog and
breadmaker, and played it backwards, I would get back the young kids and dog
??
<sigh>

[Ophelia]

"Attila.Iskander" <Attila....@Live.com> wrote in message
news:jiek6e$315$1...@dont-email.me...

> Since then, the kids have grown up, the dog has passed away, and I stopped
> using a breadmaker.
>
> Does anyone think that If I wrote a (Country) song about young kids, dog
> and breadmaker, and played it backwards, I would get back the young kids
> and dog ??
> <sigh>

If I had a magic wand I would do it for you:)


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[Attila.Iskander]

"Ophelia" <Oph...@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
news:9r70im...@mid.individual.net...

If I had a magic wand, I would try to use it for something else.
<sigh>

Although, it makes one think of how much damage / unintended consequences
would evolve from a rabid do-gooder going at it with a magic wand.

[Ophelia]

"Attila.Iskander" <Attila....@Live.com> wrote in message

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Hmmmm good point.


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[sf]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 18:51:10 -0600, "Attila.Iskander"
<Attila....@Live.com> wrote:

> Does anyone think that If I wrote a (Country) song about young kids, dog and
> breadmaker, and played it backwards, I would get back the young kids and dog
> ??

Wait long enough and you'll have grandkids which are the best of both
worlds. It's true that you get to spoil them all day long and then
send them home with their parents who put them to bed. Pets are
always a perplexing issue; because they're nice to have around but
when you're child and work free, the siren's call of long vacations in
other parts of the world beckons at least once or twice a year.

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[~misfit~]

So it's too late for a wish then? :-(
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)

[Ophelia]

"~misfit~" <sore_n...@nospamyahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:jisaio$8c2$1...@dont-email.me...

> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Ophelia wrote:
>> "Attila.Iskander" <Attila....@Live.com> wrote in message
>> news:jimkm3$ud8$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" <Oph...@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:9r70im...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Attila.Iskander" <Attila....@Live.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:jiek6e$315$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>>
>>>>> Since then, the kids have grown up, the dog has passed away, and I
>>>>> stopped using a breadmaker.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone think that If I wrote a (Country) song about young
>>>>> kids, dog and breadmaker, and played it backwards, I would get
>>>>> back the young kids and dog ??
>>>>> <sigh>
>>>>
>>>> If I had a magic wand I would do it for you:)
>>>>
>>>
>>> If I had a magic wand, I would try to use it for something else.
>>> <sigh>
>>>
>>> Although, it makes one think of how much damage / unintended
>>> consequences would evolve from a rabid do-gooder going at it with a
>>> magic wand.
>>
>> Hmmmm good point.
>
> So it's too late for a wish then? :-(

Well ... make your wish and I will wave my wand around a bit at you! How
will that do? :)

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[~misfit~]

:-) Thanks, have just done so.

Best,

[Ophelia]

"~misfit~" <sore_n...@nospamyahoo.com.au> wrote in message

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:)

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