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Dan Fox

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May 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/24/99
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I've got the bare bones of my website up - I finally caved in to the
requests from dealers and consultants (God, I sound like Mattison), but
they are right, it will be very handy. Some pix are there - check it out!

www.danfoxart.com

a real domain and everything!

dan

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Erik A. Mattila

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May 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/24/99
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Do you have a construction company, Dan (I joke). I really do like the
backhoe, though...

I guess you don't have the thumbnails scripted yet, since I couldn't get a
large version.

Whew. I promise I won't turn you in to the Bandwidth Conservation Society.
So the mighty download of the thumbnails indicates preloading of the larger
verision, yes?

What kind of file compression software are you using? If I may, look into
Macromedia Fireworks 2 as the premiere compressor (you may be using this
already).

Site looks great. Nice to see some of your other ptngs, albeit thumbnails.
Oh, yes, and now you have a face, too. That's a strange thing -- we're all
so disembodied here.

Erik

The artist formerly known as Kay

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May 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/24/99
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Dan,
I wrote a little ditty on your e-mail thing which my netscape won't let me
send till I check my own messages through gateway or netscape or something
so I am including comments as an attachment here because I'm too lazy or
busy to write it again. It takes so LOOOOONG to download the pics. I
wonder if it is my server's fault. Also, how come the thumbnails don't
enlarge???
Scarlett

Dan Fox wrote in message <19990524150930.178$v...@newsreader.com>...
:I've got the bare bones of my website up - I finally caved in to the

Blockx Waster

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May 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/25/99
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On Mon, 24 May 1999 14:29:57 -0700, "The artist formerly known as Kay"
<scarl...@theriver.com> wrote:

>
>Dan,
>I wrote a little ditty on your e-mail thing which my netscape won't let me
>send till I check my own messages through gateway or netscape or something
>so I am including comments as an attachment here because I'm too lazy or
>busy to write it again. It takes so LOOOOONG to download the pics. I
>wonder if it is my server's fault. Also, how come the thumbnails don't
>enlarge???
>Scarlett
>

It takes long as well on my server and I get some kind of an error
message on the "theory" part.

Quo Vadis

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May 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/28/99
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In article <19990524150930.178$v...@newsreader.com>, Dan Fox
<dan...@erols.com> writes

>I've got the bare bones of my website up - I finally caved in to the
>requests from dealers and consultants (God, I sound like Mattison), but
>they are right, it will be very handy. Some pix are there - check it out!
>
>www.danfoxart.com
>
>a real domain and everything!
>
>dan
>
Help ! it just came up with a load of text .... I haven't got round to
downloading Netscape 4 yet ... doing it tomorrow.
Cheers
abeerortwo
Alison


Dan Fox

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Quo Vadis <ubi...@somewhere.in.cosmos> wrote:

> >
> Help ! it just came up with a load of text .... I haven't got round to
> downloading Netscape 4 yet ... doing it tomorrow.
> Cheers
> abeerortwo
> Alison

It shouldn't do that - it comes up on my Netscape 3 fine. Try again!
And just watch for all the good stuff coming soon. Including my wife's
new site, Kameo Graphics (www.kameographics.com) - Catch her African
series of cards and prints (advt.).

dan

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Quo Vadis

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May 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/29/99
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In article <19990528175215.530$E...@newsreader.com>, Dan Fox
<dan...@erols.com> writes

>It shouldn't do that - it comes up on my Netscape 3 fine. Try again!


>And just watch for all the good stuff coming soon. Including my wife's
>new site, Kameo Graphics (www.kameographics.com) - Catch her African
>series of cards and prints (advt.).
>
>dan

Tried again Dan, unsuccessfully even though I actually got into the site
this time - even went through the rigmarole of installing IE4 for the
occasion (and three hours on the phone to tech support) - the problem is
my trusty laptop doesn't have the capacity to download the jpegs (which
seem to be large - are they ?).

So to think back to the two images you sent me a few weeks ago - which
you know I loved - do you remember I mentioned it was the spatial
relationship between the *drawing* and the abstract that immediately
wooed me ? This is why I always admired Tapies - (that was the clue that
made me search to see if it was you). Is the paint applied thickly ? it
looks like glazes from what I can remember. I am fascinated between the
combination of painting and drawing on the same plane.

Looking forward to seeing your wife's work.

abeerortwo
Alison

Quo Vadis

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May 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/30/99
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Dan: I finally got your site to download ! http://www.danfoxart.com and
it was well worth the ten minute wait ... now THIS is what I call *Art*
! More on that later. Might I suggest that you have the images converted
from gif to jpg ? It seems that jpgs are much easier to work with - they
can be reduced without losing the clarity of the image and are very fast
to send across the Net. Unfortunately the quality of those six images
are very poor and I feel sure this will be the reason (did you see my
post about having slides put onto CDrom ?) can't wait for the rest of
the site ... let us know.
abeerortwo
Alison.

Dan Fox

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Quo Vadis <ubi...@somewhere.in.cosmos> wrote:
> In article <19990528175215.530$E...@newsreader.com>, Dan Fox

>


> Tried again Dan, unsuccessfully even though I actually got into the site
> this time - even went through the rigmarole of installing IE4 for the
> occasion (and three hours on the phone to tech support) - the problem is
> my trusty laptop doesn't have the capacity to download the jpegs (which
> seem to be large - are they ?).

Hmmm - I think the files are gifs, and they are under 50K. I'm going to
improve on this soon, with real thumbnails that link to big pix, etc., so
don't worry if you can't get them now. Sorry you're having trouble!


> So to think back to the two images you sent me a few weeks ago - which
> you know I loved - do you remember I mentioned it was the spatial
> relationship between the *drawing* and the abstract that immediately
> wooed me ? This is why I always admired Tapies - (that was the clue that
> made me search to see if it was you).

Thanks! I'm always especially pleased when another artist likes my stuff.
Yes, the relationship between drawing and painting has always interested
me (Marilyn picked up on this, too). And of course you picked up my
interest in Tapies (clever of you!) I adore his work - I got a good deal a
couple of years ago on his four-volume catalog raisonne (sp?) for a
fraction of the price.

Is the paint applied thickly ? it
> looks like glazes from what I can remember. I am fascinated between the
> combination of painting and drawing on the same plane.

It varies. It's all acrylic, although no one realizes
that unless I tell them - you can make acrylic behave and look like oil if
you have the *****SKILL!**** (grin) It varies from very thin layers
scrubbed into unprimed canvas (as in the Spanish Steps - earth tone -
series), or several layers from transparent to opaque in the Water Planet
one. I also draw on the canvas with oil pastels and charcoal. The thickness
of the paint changes usually due to how many times I have to work things
over, restart, edit, etc., before I see what I want. I almost never do
thick impastos, although you can do it very nicely with acrylic using lots
of gel medium mixed with the paint - modeling paste works, too. (Tapies
uses marble dust and sand with his oil paint as well).

> Looking forward to seeing your wife's work.

I'll let you know when the site is up.

later,

dan

>
> abeerortwo
> Alison

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Dan Fox

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May 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/30/99
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Thanks - see my other post - I answered it before reading this one! Duh.

dan

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Quo Vadis

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May 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/31/99
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In article <19990530133808.408$c...@newsreader.com>, Dan Fox
<dan...@erols.com> writes

>Thanks! I'm always especially pleased when another artist likes my stuff.
>Yes, the relationship between drawing and painting has always interested
>me (Marilyn picked up on this, too). And of course you picked up my
>interest in Tapies (clever of you!) I adore his work - I got a good deal a
>couple of years ago on his four-volume catalog raisonne (sp?) for a
>fraction of the price.

Now I am jealous, Dan. I spent so much time in the Tapies Foundation in
Barcelona trying to decide whether to buy them or not, that I hardly saw
the work. In the end someone told me she could get them for me at a
reduced rate in UK so I opted for a superb catalogue, which I stupidly
gave to a friend of mine who is crazy on Tapies (she paints red shoes
incidentally). The book I bought had an excerpt from his 1970 Essay
*Nothing is Mean* ... I must try and get another copy of it. What I
really like in Tapies work was not only the relationship between drawing
and painting but also the use of texture - which I have always done in
my own work - I love tactile surfaces, especially when they are created
solely in paint. The need for tactile, before anyone psychoanalysis me
and my sexuality, may be a reaction to the sterile environment of the
*screen* today. Video and computer work leaves me cold - maybe we are
saturated by images across the screen ?

The relationship between drawing and painting continues to intrigue me.
In my first year degree I had a tutor who made sure we all thought the
two should never meet on a canvas. Still haven't figured out the reasons
- he was a fifties Hard Edge painter (always boasting about being
buddies with Greenberg). Unfortunately that stayed with me from day one
- and that is probably why the two for me have never integrated. I got
him back in my finals by doing the backward writing series ... pissed
him right off !

>It varies. It's all acrylic, although no one realizes
>that unless I tell them - you can make acrylic behave and look like oil if
>you have the *****SKILL!**** (grin)

True ! but I have also mastered how to make oils behave like acrylics -
I still say that the vibrancy of the colours cannot be matched in
acrylics. *******Flame me****** (huge grin)

>It varies from very thin layers
>scrubbed into unprimed canvas (as in the Spanish Steps - earth tone -
>series), or several layers from transparent to opaque in the Water Planet
>one. I also draw on the canvas with oil pastels and charcoal. The thickness
>of the paint changes usually due to how many times I have to work things
>over, restart, edit, etc., before I see what I want. I almost never do
>thick impastos, although you can do it very nicely with acrylic using lots
>of gel medium mixed with the paint - modeling paste works, too. (Tapies
>uses marble dust and sand with his oil paint as well).

This is how my friend who paints red shoes works .... she always has a
hands on approach .. working the paint and mediums into the canvas and
often stitching into it. I just get such a buzz out of these sorts of
surfaces. Some of my work from five years ago has built up surfaces with
glass, rope, metal and tissue paper - the tissue is soaked in PVA glue
(the kids water soluble glue) and then layered across the surfaces.
Glazes of paint applied on top of this and it becomes like a plastic.

On that note ... off to the canvas I go !

abeerortwo
Alison.

Kay again

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Jun 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/2/99
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Erik put up two of my works I paid $20 to get scanned by a printing place.
The one's I scanned are being worked on by Dan who is furiously fighting off
Mattison's advances at the same time. I don't like showing old work and
this is only 2 of them, but people can get a better idea of what I'm
jabbering away about by visiting my temporary site, compliments of the
wonderful, marvelous, magnificent (grovel, grovel) ERIK at:
www.impix.com/kane/kayl.html

Kay
(Erik's new groupie)


Kay again

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Quo Vadis wrote in message ...
(snip for space):

not only the relationship between drawing
:and painting but also the use of texture - which I have always done in
:my own work - I love tactile surfaces, especially when they are created
:solely in paint.

That's one objection I have to viewing art on the web. I can't *see* the
surface textures in anyone's work!

The need for tactile, before anyone psychoanalysis me
:and my sexuality, may be a reaction to the sterile environment of the
:*screen* today. Video and computer work leaves me cold - maybe we are
:saturated by images across the screen ?

We really can't see the 3-dimensionality of the paint surface. What I mean
is that a work may be a *flat 2-D surface painting, yet, if the paint is
applied thickly there will always be an almost imperceptible casting of
shadows, ridges, strokes, etc. which we can examine. Also, an extremely
large work can't be viewed in its normal size. Then again, slides may
project an image extremely large, yet we still suffer from *lessening the
impact of the paint surface by comparison when we view works in person.

:The relationship between drawing and painting continues to intrigue me.


:In my first year degree I had a tutor who made sure we all thought the
:two should never meet on a canvas.

I don't know how it can be avoided...

: Still haven't figured out the reasons


:- he was a fifties Hard Edge painter (always boasting about being
:buddies with Greenberg). Unfortunately that stayed with me from day one
:- and that is probably why the two for me have never integrated.

I think they have, to a degree.

: I got


:him back in my finals by doing the backward writing series ... pissed
:him right off !

:>It varies. It's all acrylic, although no one realizes
:>that unless I tell them - you can make acrylic behave and look like oil if
:>you have the *****SKILL!**** (grin)
:
:True ! but I have also mastered how to make oils behave like acrylics -
:I still say that the vibrancy of the colours cannot be matched in
:acrylics. *******Flame me****** (huge grin)


Flame, flame. But I agree. I can do an acrylic very thickly and it isn't
really obviously different from oil BUT I look at the acrylic and picture
how it would look if I did another like it in oil and the oil always wins by
a landslide! What I CANNOT get from acrylic is the sensual feeling of
stroking (psychoanalize me now!). There seems to be a visual and physical
integration of senses that is unsurpassed in any other medium (to me) except
perhaps for the sheer physicality of sculpting which I experienced though I
only took 4 sculpture classes.

(snipping good stuff)

:On that note ... off to the canvas I go !
:
:abeerortwo
:Alison.


(breathing heavy)
Kay
:


Dan Fox

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Before you put Erik on too high a pedestal - I got a HTTP/1.0 404 Object
Not Found message there!

dan
still want to see your work!

--
Dan

*The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom.* - Blake

Dan Fox

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"Kay again" <scarl...@theriver.com> wrote:


What I CANNOT get from acrylic is the
> sensual feeling of stroking (psychoanalize me now!).
>

> (snipping good stuff)
>
> :On that note ... off to the canvas I go !

Stroking and snipping the good stuff! Kay, Alison and I have pix of
ourselves on our sites - ah, could
you include one of yourself? For purposes of visual identification, etc.,
only, of course.

>
> (breathing heavy)
> Kay

Dan
(looking around furtively)

Quo Vadis

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In article <19990602094522.845$G...@newsreader.com>, Dan Fox
<dan...@erols.com> writes

>Before you put Erik on too high a pedestal - I got a HTTP/1.0 404 Object


>Not Found message there!
>dan
>still want to see your work!
>

Try http://www.impix.com/kane/images

This stuff is great ! the sort of stuff I want to read .... into ...
more later.


Dan Fox

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Wow! Great stuff indeed! I, too, will look at greater length. Nice repro,
too. They are unique, artistic, and very professional.

Kay, your pix are incredibly sexual - especially the second one (with
the big phallic form in the foreground and the, um, open doorways receding,
and that funky little form at the base of the phallic form that I haven't
figured out yet. Is this intentional, or a manifestation of your
unconscious mind? Massive psychoanalysis needed! (just kidding - I don't
even believe in the unconscious mind)

My God, can you believe the flame war I would start with a post like this
on RAF?

Post more pix!

Nice site, too, Erik. I just skimmed it but will go back.

--
Dan

'The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.' - Blake

Kay again

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Dan Fox wrote in message <19990602145427.932$T...@newsreader.com>...

:Quo Vadis <ubi...@somewhere.in.cosmos> wrote:
:> In article <19990602094522.845$G...@newsreader.com>, Dan Fox
:> <dan...@erols.com> writes
:>
:> >Before you put Erik on too high a pedestal - I got a HTTP/1.0 404 Object
:> >Not Found message there!
:> >dan
:> >still want to see your work!
:> >
:> Try http://www.impix.com/kane/images
:>
:> This stuff is great ! the sort of stuff I want to read .... into ...
:> more later.
:
:Wow! Great stuff indeed! I, too, will look at greater length. Nice repro,
:too. They are unique, artistic, and very professional.
:
:Kay, your pix are incredibly sexual -

So I'm NOT repressed? (I need to know!)

especially the second one (with
:the big phallic form in the foreground and the, um, open doorways receding,
:and that funky little form at the base of the phallic form that I haven't
:figured out yet.

Phallic/vaginal - that's all I ever heard from my upper-division art history
professor. Sweet man - and loved his classes, but every single work of art
was "phallic" or "vaginal"... It's probably stayed with me for life. I
don't see a *building outside - I see a penis! And everywhere I go, vagina,
vagina, vagina... I wish I could go somewhere *neutered!

: Is this intentional, or a manifestation of your
:unconscious mind?

Seriously, it probably is NOT intentional and probably IS a manifestation of
my unconscious mind! I've had too many people make the same type of
comments to totally disregard it out of hand. I LIKE control, but don't
really have much of it in my life, let alone my art. Then again,
*controlled people can be real bores...

Massive psychoanalysis needed! (just kidding - I don't
:even believe in the unconscious mind)


I believe in it, but choose to ignore it since if we mind each other's
business too much we argue!

:My God, can you believe the flame war I would start with a post like this
:on RAF?


Come on Dan - please? You were the one who had the nerve to post your own
work and photo and a flame war DID start. I think you should throw the
phallic stuff all over raf and give May (now Jullian) a rest from calling
Alison *twat (she said she would rather have called her a *prick anyway).
Hmmm, reminds me of my own Granny when she was alive!

:Post more pix!


Yes, I will when I get the slides made - postponed because of open-heart
surgery of the person's dad who takes my slides. More procrastination
becomes available - or maybe I'll do them myself and save money. I've had
great results/I've had horrible results.

:Nice site, too, Erik. I just skimmed it but will go back.


Erik's deserves full critique. Get Blockx Waster someone - he's really good
at that kind of stuff, but he's probably in Switzerland on his Honeymoon
now...
Kay

:Dan

Kay again

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Dan Fox wrote in message <19990602095023.937$l...@newsreader.com>...

Yes, Dan, I intend to. I never thought about it before but even people here
in reality (whatever that is) like to know what an artist looks like. I'm
going to get that electrolysis like I told you and then get a picture!
(Though it's somewhat scary thinking that I could be the fodder for some
imbecile's mastabatory fantasies, like Dan is to Mattison!)

Kay
(looking around fearfully)


Erik A. Mattila

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Hey, I got the error too (I tried to log on as I was falling off my ivory
tower pedestal).

Somehow a '1' got changed to a 'l' (which leads me to believe that Kay
hasn't lernt to copy/paste yet ((pass the buck))).

try:

http://www.impix.com/kane/kay1.html

Erik

Dan Fox wrote:

> "Kay again" <scarl...@theriver.com> wrote:
> > Erik put up two of my works I paid $20 to get scanned by a printing
> > place. The one's I scanned are being worked on by Dan who is furiously
> > fighting off Mattison's advances at the same time. I don't like showing
> > old work and this is only 2 of them, but people can get a better idea of
> > what I'm jabbering away about by visiting my temporary site, compliments
> > of the wonderful, marvelous, magnificent (grovel, grovel) ERIK at:
> > www.impix.com/kane/kayl.html
> >
> > Kay
> > (Erik's new groupie)
>

> Before you put Erik on too high a pedestal - I got a HTTP/1.0 404 Object
> Not Found message there!
>
> dan
> still want to see your work!
>

> --
> Dan
>
> *The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom.* - Blake


Erik A. Mattila

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Dan Fox wrote:

> Kay, your pix are incredibly sexual - especially the second one (with


> the big phallic form in the foreground and the, um, open doorways receding,
> and that funky little form at the base of the phallic form that I haven't

> figured out yet. Is this intentional, or a manifestation of your
> unconscious mind? Massive psychoanalysis needed! (just kidding - I don't


> even believe in the unconscious mind)

Well, that's not a phallus anyway, Dan. It's one of those Calvin Klien
deodorant bottles.
Erik

>
>
> My God, can you believe the flame war I would start with a post like this
> on RAF?
>

> Post more pix!


>
> Nice site, too, Erik. I just skimmed it but will go back.

Anyone who wants to look at my digital experiments with abstract art (which
baffles me) can see them here.

http://www.impix.com/apr/at1.htm

There's a link at the bottome of th pate to "ae experiments." I'm looking for
feedback re: what is abstract art? Of course what you will see here are
completely fake. No smell of paint, stains, etc. Digital art is very weird
in this respect.

Erik

>
>
> --
> Dan
>
> 'The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.' - Blake


Kay again

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Erik A. Mattila wrote in message <3755B84A...@tomatoweb.com>...
:Hey, I got the error too (I tried to log on as I was falling off my ivory

:tower pedestal).
:
:Somehow a '1' got changed to a 'l' (which leads me to believe that Kay
:hasn't lernt to copy/paste yet ((pass the buck))).

:
:try:
:
:http://www.impix.com/kane/kay1.html
:
:Erik

I printed out your "copy/paste" post. You mean I was supposed to DO
something else? (besides, that's my great typing)
Kayl
or
Kay1
(one digit, and a career goes down the toilet!)


Dan Fox

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"Kay again" <scarl...@theriver.com> wrote:
> Dan Fox wrote in message <19990602145427.932$T...@newsreader.com>...
> :Quo Vadis <ubi...@somewhere.in.cosmos> wrote:
> :> In article <19990602094522.845$G...@newsreader.com>, Dan Fox
> :> <dan...@erols.com> writes
> :>
> :> >Before you put Erik on too high a pedestal - I got a HTTP/1.0 404

> :> >Object Not Found message there!
> :> >dan
> :> >still want to see your work!
> :> >
> :> Try http://www.impix.com/kane/images
> :>
> :> This stuff is great ! the sort of stuff I want to read .... into ...
> :> more later.
> :
> :Wow! Great stuff indeed! I, too, will look at greater length. Nice
> :repro, too. They are unique, artistic, and very professional.
> :
> :Kay, your pix are incredibly sexual -
>
> So I'm NOT repressed? (I need to know!)

Repressed? Not hardly, ma'am!

>
> especially the second one (with
> :the big phallic form in the foreground and the, um, open doorways
> :receding, and that funky little form at the base of the phallic form
> :that I haven't figured out yet.
>

> Phallic/vaginal - that's all I ever heard from my upper-division art
> history professor. Sweet man - and loved his classes, but every single
> work of art was "phallic" or "vaginal"... It's probably stayed with me
> for life. I don't see a *building outside - I see a penis! And
> everywhere I go, vagina, vagina, vagina... I wish I could go somewhere
> *neutered!

Well, judging from this work he was right - don't get me wrong, I really
like it. I'll be looking at it in more detail - when my wife is out of
the room, of course.

>
> : Is this intentional, or a manifestation of your
> :unconscious mind?
>


> Seriously, it probably is NOT intentional and probably IS a manifestation
> of my unconscious mind! I've had too many people make the same type of
> comments to totally disregard it out of hand. I LIKE control, but don't
> really have much of it in my life, let alone my art. Then again,
> *controlled people can be real bores...

Fritz Perls said that if you have a complete plan for your life you don't
have a life, you just have a plan. My Dad was a control freak, planned
every detail of his life. Got him nowhere. I try to be as uncontrolled
and irresponsible as possible, but it's harder with kids.

>
> Massive psychoanalysis needed! (just kidding - I don't
> :even believe in the unconscious mind)
>

> I believe in it, but choose to ignore it since if we mind each other's
> business too much we argue!

Don't kid with your id!

>
> :My God, can you believe the flame war I would start with a post like
> :this on RAF?
>


> Come on Dan - please? You were the one who had the nerve to post your
> own work and photo and a flame war DID start. I think you should throw
> the phallic stuff all over raf and give May (now Jullian) a rest from
> calling Alison *twat (she said she would rather have called her a *prick
> anyway). Hmmm, reminds me of my own Granny when she was alive!

Is it time for another cool post from me to the RAF gang?
You could start by posting the URL to
your pix, maybe renaming them for the benefit of RAF! Like, 'Jillian
practicing Onanism While Hutto Watches,' etc etc. Some fuckwad (!) in RAF
said in all seriousness that there was no difference between a naked moose
and a naked woman. That idea should be worth a whole series of kinkoid fun!

>
> :Post more pix!
>
> Yes, I will when I get the slides made - postponed because of open-heart
> surgery of the person's dad who takes my slides. More procrastination
> becomes available - or maybe I'll do them myself and save money. I've
> had great results/I've had horrible results.

My slide guy had his entire building burn down. He lost everything, all his
own photo work, records, customer work, equipment. No insurance. We set up
a fund for him and his family. Not a good time to be a slide guy,
apparently.


>
> :Nice site, too, Erik. I just skimmed it but will go back.
>
> Erik's deserves full critique. Get Blockx Waster someone - he's really
> good at that kind of stuff, but he's probably in Switzerland on his
> Honeymoon now...
> Kay

Yeah, with Claudia the fine fraulein. Maybe HE will post pics. Jeez, I'm
getting punchy. My non-existend unconscious is pretty close to the surface
tonight.

Dan Fox

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"Kay again" <scarl...@theriver.com> wrote:
> Dan Fox wrote in message <19990602095023.937$l...@newsreader.com>...

> Yes, Dan, I intend to. I never thought about it before but even people
> here in reality (whatever that is) like to know what an artist looks
> like. I'm going to get that electrolysis like I told you and then get a
> picture! (Though it's somewhat scary thinking that I could be the fodder
> for some imbecile's mastabatory fantasies, like Dan is to Mattison!)

Hey, let's be honest, here. Mattison brags because she is a poor lost soul
who probably hasn't been laid since the Crimean War. WHAT HARM is there for
her to be carrying around prints of my picture, putting them up in the john
in her hovel in Mexico, folding them in her handbag, stealing furtive
glances at my manly countenance during the day and then, when she's
finished uplifting the Mexican people, having a slug of Tequila and
a total Wank-o-Rama as I gaze down benevolently?

Don't be fearful, Kay. Be glad. Glad that you have the potential
to brighten the life of some incest-ridden mental defective in, say,
Mississippi. Why, you may be responsible for some lout's first waking
orgasm. This is not to be taken lightly.

(I actually met the woman, thirty years after the fact, who
WAS responsible for my first waking orgasm. But that's another story.)


> Kay
> (looking around fearfully)

Quo Vadis

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In article <19990602222349.358$o...@newsreader.com>, Dan Fox
<dan...@erols.com> writes

>(I actually met the woman, thirty years after the fact, who


>WAS responsible for my first waking orgasm. But that's another story.)

you promised us that story ages ago ... come on


Dan Fox

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That must've been another story. Here's this one - all true.

When I started
going to San Miguel de Allende (the art colony in Mexico that I hope to
Christ Mattison doesn't find), I met a charming couple - writer Alice
Densen and her husband Charles.

Alice is a terrific woman, still vibrant in late middle age, outrageous,
and sexy as hell. She made a lot of money by writing a book called The
Ghost and Mrs. Muir, which was made into a tv series. She also wrote a
novel called Amo, a fictionalized account of her liasons with everyone from
Phillip Roth to Hugh Hefner.

Anyway, when she was young she posed for skin magazines, etc., and got
picked as a Playboy Playmate. She was billed as 'the writing playmate,' and
the magazine carried one of her short stories in the same issue. One pic
showed her with her Phi Beta Kappa key in strategic spot.

I remembered her very well in the magazine and told her that I thought she
was responsible for my first waking orgasm. She and Charles got a good
laugh out of that - and it's true. A guy remembers those things.

They live in New York in the winter and San Miguel in the summer, and we
still get together.

Anybody wanna add their stories?

Quo Vadis

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In article <19990603113521.905$u...@newsreader.com>, Dan Fox
<dan...@erols.com> writes

>


>That must've been another story. Here's this one - all true.

Nice story ! don't start me off ... I spent three years working for the
rich and famous (including -- excuse spellings -- Geraldo Rivera and as
bunch of crazies riding on the back of whales; John Travolta (he has a
great ass); Jackie Onassis (she drips wealth, moody bitch she was); Don
Johnson and the entire cast of Miami Vice including the alligator;
Robert Maxwell (yes yes, *I* poisoned him); and one of the princes of
Kuwait and his merry band who caused us a lot of embarrassment and a
near rape charge in Spain ..... need I continue ???? No artists I am
afraid ... but when Peter the Sublime arrives maybe you can pursuade him
to tell you his tale of out staring Picasso in a south of France cafe
almost fifty years ago....

gotto to Dan ... I mean rush .......

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