A binaries newsgroup for us!
Dan Fox
I found alt.binaries.pictures.fine.art. If everyone can get it we
can post our pix there. On the other hand, does anyone object to posting
them here? Group comment?
Cool names I found while looking for the binaries group (all real
groups):
alt.bitch.pork - empty
alt.sex.bondage.particle.physics - had a few bondage ads
alt.spartacus.netscape.bologna - empty
alt.satanism.murder - empty, but creepy anyway
--
Dan
'The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.' - Blake
'Ich bin ein Artsy Fartzy.' - Dan
Kay
Dan Fox wrote in message <19990609185322.353$k...@newsreader.com>...
:Folks -
:
:I found alt.binaries.pictures.fine.art. If everyone can get it we
:can post our pix there. On the other hand, does anyone object to posting
:them here? Group comment?
I may have multiple personalities, but I don't think I qualify as a group.
However, we find that the problem with the binaries groups is that they are
very heavily traffic areas and you have to look through them all (I have
Outlook Express) to find what you are looking for. I don't see a problem
with them being downloaded right here just so long as we don't all download
our pics the same day. Maybe we can have Dan download 2 one day, 2 the next
and so on and then the next week or 2 after Dan's turn then someone else can
start. Anyone else?
::Cool names I found while looking for the binaries group (all real
:groups):
:
:alt.bitch.pork - empty
I like it!
:alt.sex.bondage.particle.physics - had a few bondage ads
Forget it! I already have alt.punishment.spanking on my own posting history
because someone cross-posted. What the heck does that name mean? Kinky sex
with science? The sex & bondage goes together and the particle & physics go
together, but the 4 of them???? Wait a minute, wasn't a physic what they
called or call an enema? Is a particle something kinky I don't know about?
I'm so behind the times, I don't even know what "crack" is, if you smoke it,
inject it, whatever... If you put a testing post on
alt.sex.bondage.particle.physics Dan, then it will show up on Deja News as
part of your posting history :-)
:alt.spartacus.netscape.bologna - empty
That's really cool! Makes me think of Kirk Douglas driving a chariot in
Roman toga, yet gives me a full feeling like I've just had a sandwich.
:alt.satanism.murder - empty, but creepy anyway
You wonder HOW this ng came into existence and WHY...
:--
:Dan
:
:'The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.' - Blake
:'Ich bin ein Artsy Fartzy.' - Dan
I found some Pamela.Sue.Anderson (very full) and I even looked in on (I
can't remember the exact name) a ql - stands for that old TV show "Quantum
Leap" ng and I couldn't believe it! There was one woman who wrote a
different episode for the series every day! I felt like informing her that
the show had been canceled years ago, but, why destroy her dreams?
Did you get a chance to visit the lonely guy writing posts to himself in
uw.visualization? See there are a lot more loony people out there...
Kay
Kay
Erik A. Mattila wrote in message <375F4CB7...@tomatoweb.com>...
:
:
:Kay wrote:
:
:> That's really cool! Makes me think of Kirk Douglas driving a chariot in
:> Roman toga, yet gives me a full feeling like I've just had a sandwich.
:
:with a Tim Conway twist.
:
:Erik still laughing.
Touchay Erik to you too! I just got back from the other group and poor
Larry Seiler is scratching his head in befuddlement at your "poster" post.
(Tim Conway is *highly underrated.)
Kay still snickering and up to mischief.
:
:
Erik A. Mattila
Erik A. Mattila
Kay wrote:
> Erik A. Mattila wrote in message <375F4CB7...@tomatoweb.com>...
> :
> :
> Touchay Erik to you too! I just got back from the other group and poor
> Larry Seiler is scratching his head in befuddlement at your "poster" post.
Do you really think 'befuddled'? I thought I was clear -- but you never can
tell. But did you like the definition of a 'poster' that I found on the Art
Dictionary web site? I thought that was pretty dam cool. "A reproduction of a
two dimensional art work should not be considered a poster unless is is
advertising something" or words to that effect. It's almost like that scene in
Annie Hall where Woody was arguing in the line at the theatre about McCluan,
and McCluan steps up and defends Woody's position.
(Tim Conway is *highly underrated.)
Not by me - it cracks me up just looking at him. --Erik (thinking of Dorf).
Quo Vadis
<scarl...@theriver.com> writes
>I may have multiple personalities, but I don't think I qualify as a group.
>However, we find that the problem with the binaries groups is that they are
>very heavily traffic areas and you have to look through them all (I have
>Outlook Express) to find what you are looking for. I don't see a problem
>with them being downloaded right here just so long as we don't all download
>our pics the same day. Maybe we can have Dan download 2 one day, 2 the next
>and so on and then the next week or 2 after Dan's turn then someone else can
>start. Anyone else?
Same problem for me - a binary group is an absolute no no - crunched
laptop and 19k modem in a mobile phone .... slowwwwww. I would like to
post one of my latest paintings to you - so am going to do a small jpeg
file sometime today if the scanner behaves.
>Forget it! I already have alt.punishment.spanking on my own posting history
>because someone cross-posted. What the heck does that name mean? Kinky sex
>with science? The sex & bondage goes together and the particle & physics go
>together, but the 4 of them???? Wait a minute, wasn't a physic what they
>called or call an enema? Is a particle something kinky I don't know about?
>I'm so behind the times, I don't even know what "crack" is, if you smoke it,
>inject it, whatever... If you put a testing post on
>alt.sex.bondage.particle.physics Dan, then it will show up on Deja News as
>part of your posting history :-)
Peter was just saying he thought he recognised your name from somewhere
...... yuk yuk (as Dan would say)
*Crack* ... you can do any of the above with it. Haven't you seen
*Trainspotting * ??????? I was on a bus in Manchester a couple of years
ago when a guy got on and sat next to me, got out some silver foil, put
some crack in it and started to set fire to it and inhale the fumes.
Consequently so did I. I got off the bus immediately and for the next
three or four hours was a complete mess. It was very frightening.
>Did you get a chance to visit the lonely guy writing posts to himself in
>uw.visualization? See there are a lot more loony people out there...
>Kay
>
Oh - lets go visit him - I hate that idea ... gone all soppy at this
end.
Alison A Raimes
ali...@raimes.demon.co.uk
http://www.raimes.demon.co.uk
Dan Fox
> I found some Pamela.Sue.Anderson (very full)
Indeed!
and I even looked in on (I
> can't remember the exact name) a ql - stands for that old TV show
> "Quantum Leap" ng and I couldn't believe it! There was one woman who
> wrote a different episode for the series every day! I felt like
> informing her that the show had been canceled years ago, but, why destroy
> her dreams?
There are more psych and sociology doctoral dissertations here than
any army of graduate students could ever touch.
>
> Did you get a chance to visit the lonely guy writing posts to himself in
> uw.visualization? See there are a lot more loony people out there...
I did check it out! Thanks. I wonder what his reaction would be of someone
else (can't think WHO might be so brazen and twisted) would begin posting
there with him.
Posting here or in our new group is probably best - I looked into the
binaries group I mentioned and they are all into the masters - might
object to our stuff! (old story by now)....
Dan
> Kay
tin...@home.com
Maybe I am missing the point but, I can see people
who don't have a web site needing to post
pictures, for myself I just use my site.
I have 12mb of storage at the globe. I use it to
store some graphics that are accessed from my
page, which is hosted on another server.
A group of people could get together and set up
storage on a site like the globe, use a common
password create an index, upload with ftp
software, which is free, on their own page. One
advantage is you can treat the entire page as art,
like book design. The url can be posted in an
email such that you just click on it and it goes
to the proper page.
Any way these are today's thoughts on the subject.
_______tinman end_______
Dan Fox wrote:
>
> Folks -
>
> I found alt.binaries.pictures.fine.art. If everyone can get it we
> can post our pix there. On the other hand, does anyone object to posting
> them here? Group comment?
>
> Cool names I found while looking for the binaries group (all real
> groups):
>
> alt.bitch.pork - empty
>
> alt.sex.bondage.particle.physics - had a few bondage ads
>
> alt.spartacus.netscape.bologna - empty
>
> alt.satanism.murder - empty, but creepy anyway
>
Quo Vadis
>____tinman start_________
>Maybe I am missing the point but, I can see people
>who don't have a web site needing to post
>pictures, for myself I just use my site.
>
>I have 12mb of storage at the globe. I use it to
>store some graphics that are accessed from my
>page, which is hosted on another server.
My fault, tinman - I haven't the faintest idea how to deal with HTML
because I have always had someone do it for me. Unfortunately, the
photographer screwed up on the recent pictures he took and now it looks
like it will be weeks before I can get them redone and onto my site ...
by which time they will be old work. If I can persuade Erik, maybe he
could teach me how to put up a temporary page on my site .... eh Erik
???? pretty please, fluttering eyelids at him .....
Alison
Erik A. Mattila
Quo Vadis wrote:
Only if you paste on Louise Nevelson's eyelashes.
Step one --- do you have any html software? Microsoft Frontpage, Adobe
Pagemaker, etc? We can take it from there. BTW, Tinman can probably help
here too, as could Dan and others. Just because I make a living designing
websites doesn't mean I know what I'm doing.
Erik
Quo Vadis
<emat...@tomatoweb.com> writes
>Only if you paste on Louise Nevelson's eyelashes.
>
Who the hell is she ? and have you got her phone number so I can ask
her? Then again if you had her phone number I guess you wouldn't need me
to imitate her ;-)
>Step one --- do you have any html software? Microsoft Frontpage, Adobe
>Pagemaker, etc? We can take it from there.
Hot Metal (thought it was porn software when Demon sent it to me) -
haven't got it loaded up though - will I be able to run it on the big
computer and still load the site from floppy disc via the laptop ?
> BTW, Tinman can probably help
>here too, as could Dan and others.
Dan ?????????? what, while he is on the run ???? and Tinman is looking
for his heart (and writing me a psychoanalysis of my drawings) - hard
luck, you are stuck with me, old bean.
>Just because I make a living designing
>websites doesn't mean I know what I'm doing.
>
>Erik
>
Just because I make a living driving a van doesn't mean I can miss every
Mercedes Benz on the road.
I have heard Adrian Frost's name being mentioned somewhere incidentally
- maybe he teaches ?? anymore clues ??? no doubt I will see that name
everywhere now.
Waiting on tenterhooks for lesson number two
TTFN
Alison
ali...@raimes.demon.co.uk
http://www.raimes.demon.co.uk
Erik A. Mattila
Quo Vadis wrote:
> In article <37655AD1...@tomatoweb.com>, Erik A. Mattila
> <emat...@tomatoweb.com> writes
>
> >Only if you paste on Louise Nevelson's eyelashes.
> >
>
> Who the hell is she ? and have you got her phone number so I can ask
> her? Then again if you had her phone number I guess you wouldn't need me
> to imitate her ;-)
What, you haven't been reading Kay's posts? Tell her who Louise Nevelson
is. She's deceased, but earned her tag as a top US sculptor in the US.
Sometimes her work is reminescent of Noguchi to me. Very wonderful stuff
-- look her up, you won't be disappointed. (Kay and I have both seen a film
which shows Louise bossing around her two young men apprentices. Kay
commented on her make-up.)
> >Step one --- do you have any html software? Microsoft Frontpage, Adobe
> >Pagemaker, etc? We can take it from there.
>
> Hot Metal (thought it was porn software when Demon sent it to me) -
> haven't got it loaded up though - will I be able to run it on the big
> computer and still load the site from floppy disc via the laptop ?
Hot Metal? I'm lost in PC land, but load it and see if it is 'intuitive'
or if its all html code. The applications I've named are all intuitive, in
other words, the application makes the html, all you have to do is work in
a more user friendly environment. There's no point in learning html,
really. I use Macromedia Dreamweaver, and GoLive Cyberstudio is a
contender. But you really don't need this level for what you are doing
(ulness someone just gives you some software). So take a look at Hot Metal
and see if it dumbfounds you.)
> > BTW, Tinman can probably help
> >here too, as could Dan and others.
>
> Dan ?????????? what, while he is on the run ???? and Tinman is looking
> for his heart (and writing me a psychoanalysis of my drawings) - hard
> luck, you are stuck with me, old bean.
>
> >Just because I make a living designing
> >websites doesn't mean I know what I'm doing.
> >
> >Erik
> >
> Just because I make a living driving a van doesn't mean I can miss every
> Mercedes Benz on the road.
Don't you mean "Mercedes Bent"? (sorry for being insentive, but the
opportunity to pun is more important.)
> I have heard Adrian Frost's name being mentioned somewhere incidentally
> - maybe he teaches ?? anymore clues ??? no doubt I will see that name
> everywhere now.
Yes, now you'll hear his name everywhere. I liked him. He secured a room
in the UC Davis Art Department building during his 10 week appointment, and
camped there. I went in and he had his skivvies hanging over the sink
(laundry day). He had covered the walls of the room with butcher paper --
completely. On to this he was attaching the thing of his life in
California, which were primarily cartons from 12 packs of the cheapest beer
available. Over these paste-ons he painted - brushing, throwing, splating
-- anything you can imagine. When it came time for a show, he cut out
several paintings from the walls of the room. They really looked nice. I
mean, anyone who visited him in his cave would think that there's no future
in the project. What a surprise. He's a total lush, but he does it in
style.
> Waiting on tenterhooks for lesson number two
> TTFN
>
> Alison
> ali...@raimes.demon.co.uk
> http://www.raimes.demon.co.uk
Well, you'll have to solve the ftp (File Transfer Protocol) mystery.
That's how you transfer files from your computer to demon.co's servers. On
a Mac an application called "Fetch" is the favorite, but you'll have to
fine what's available for the PC environment. Dan will know. Most of the
time these transfer applications are freeware.
Yes, if you can copy files from your mainframe to your laptop, you can also
copy html files.
Cheers,
Erik
Kay
Erik A. Mattila wrote in message <3765D094...@tomatoweb.com>...
:
:
:Quo Vadis wrote:
:
:> In article <37655AD1...@tomatoweb.com>, Erik A. Mattila
:> <emat...@tomatoweb.com> writes
:>
:> >Only if you paste on Louise Nevelson's eyelashes.
:> >
:>
:> Who the hell is she ? and have you got her phone number so I can ask
:> her? Then again if you had her phone number I guess you wouldn't need me
:> to imitate her ;-)
:
:What, you haven't been reading Kay's posts? Tell her who Louise Nevelson
:is.
You need a seance to call her, but you're in luck! I have several family
members in that business... She lived to be over 90, I think. Assemblage
artist. Awesome! Erik loves her. All my 20 year old girl students have
ambitions to be like her when they are old. Very self-confident and
assertive! Had to give up a son to persue being an artist. Beautiful when
young. Many, many websites on her. She is in every single collection I can
imagine, but here is the site for you to look at #1 her eyelashes (trimmed
down for the photo) and #2 her work (she is most famous for the
compartmentalized sprayed black on wood work like "Black Chord") I just
looked these up from some bookmarked artists lists and I am sure there are
many many more:
Eyelashes & photo: www.pacewildenstein.com/nevel/
and
Artwork: www.echonyc.com/~whitnet/collection/featured/intro.html
: She's deceased, but earned her tag as a top US sculptor in the US.
Sorry to correct you Erik, but she has international status which she
mentioned several times in her film.. (Remember, going to Japan, saying she
didn't care if she was in the Biennielle because her work was all over the
world in the top museums and collections of the world???)
:Sometimes her work is reminescent of Noguchi to me. Very wonderful stuff
:-- look her up, you won't be disappointed. (Kay and I have both seen a film
:which shows Louise bossing around her two young men apprentices. Kay
:commented on her make-up.)
Also commented on her smoking. A brown cigarette in one scene. A white
cigarette in another. She must have puffed away about 20 of those things in
a half-hour film. WHAT A WOMAN! WHAT AND ARTIST!
:(snip stuff over my head)
:> Just because I make a living driving a van doesn't mean I can miss every
:> Mercedes Benz on the road.
:
:Don't you mean "Mercedes Bent"? (sorry for being insentive, but the
:opportunity to pun is more important.)
I admire that quality Erik...
:> I have heard Adrian Frost's name being mentioned somewhere incidentally
:> - maybe he teaches ?? anymore clues ??? no doubt I will see that name
:> everywhere now.
Now he is one that I don't know!
:Yes, now you'll hear his name everywhere. I liked him. He secured a room
:in the UC Davis Art Department building during his 10 week appointment, and
:camped there. I went in and he had his skivvies hanging over the sink
:(laundry day). He had covered the walls of the room with butcher paper --
:completely. On to this he was attaching the thing of his life in
:California, which were primarily cartons from 12 packs of the cheapest beer
:available. Over these paste-ons he painted - brushing, throwing, splating
:-- anything you can imagine. When it came time for a show, he cut out
:several paintings from the walls of the room. They really looked nice. I
:mean, anyone who visited him in his cave would think that there's no future
:in the project. What a surprise. He's a total lush, but he does it in
:style.
What? A Performance Artist??? California has a real shortage of THEM
<snicker> I don't know who he is, but I saw a film in my Intro to
Contemporary Art class about performance artist Chris Burden getting his
hands nailed to a VW car and living in a locker and REALLY WEIRD stuff, even
by California standards, so naturally - I loved him. Adrian Frost sounds
tame for a performance artist. What is new and special about him?
:> Waiting on tenterhooks for lesson number two
:> TTFN
What does TTFN mean?
:> Alison
:> ali...@raimes.demon.co.uk
:> http://www.raimes.demon.co.uk
:
:Cheers,
:Erik
(snip technical stuff)
Kay
Dan Fox
ago and I have a copy - but sure to be available at places like
bibliofind.com. Well worth getting.
What an artist! What a woman! What a bitch! I wish I had known her.
--
Dan
'The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.' - Blake
Dan Fox
>
> >Step one --- do you have any html software? Microsoft Frontpage, Adobe
> >Pagemaker, etc? We can take it from there.
>
> Hot Metal (thought it was porn software when Demon sent it to me) -
> haven't got it loaded up though - will I be able to run it on the big
> computer and still load the site from floppy disc via the laptop ?
>
> >here too, as could Dan and others.
>
> Dan ?????????? what, while he is on the run ???? and Tinman is looking
> for his heart (and writing me a psychoanalysis of my drawings) - hard
> luck, you are stuck with me, old bean.
Alison -
My wife and I are learning web design - she's much more knowledgeable
than I am (grin) at this point. I sketched out my present site on paper
and she designed it from there. Much more to come. We use a very
comprehensive program called Net Objects Fusion 4.0 It is expensive
(about $250. USD), but we need it because you can use it to design
so-called Enterprise Sites - complex sites complete with shopping carts,
billing, etc. Krys is preparing her site for selling her cards and
block prints and need this. KILLER art, by the way - block printing,
ink on handmade paper - check it out! www.kameographics.com - should
be up this week (advt.).
ANYway - you no longer use HTML code to build sites. Tools like Net Objects
are strictly point-and-click. You can go into html if you want to, of
course.
There's all kindsa stuff like meta-tags for search engines, etc., that's
explained in the books that come with the software. Putting it up on the
web is a snap - just an FTP operation. When you buy the space on a server
they give you a username and password. Your program (like net objects)
just uses those items to upload the site. Piece of cake. (If Mani can
do it, anyone can, right?)
Later
Quo Vadis
<dan...@erols.com> writes
>ANYway - you no longer use HTML code to build sites. Tools like Net Objects
>are strictly point-and-click. You can go into html if you want to, of
>course.
>
>There's all kindsa stuff like meta-tags for search engines, etc., that's
>explained in the books that come with the software. Putting it up on the
>web is a snap - just an FTP operation. When you buy the space on a server
>they give you a username and password. Your program (like net objects)
>just uses those items to upload the site. Piece of cake. (If Mani can
>do it, anyone can, right?)
>
>Later
>
I was about to say this to Erik, Dan - I watched my web designer put the
page up and it was a matter of writing the page and then going to the
website via my password and inserting the file ... didn't need to go
near FTP (though I do know how to use this). Going to have a go at the
weekend when I get the CDrom with slides on it.
Cheers ... and no doubt I will need more help.
Alison
ali...@raimes.demon.co.uk
http://www.raimes.demon.co.uk
Quo Vadis
<emat...@tomatoweb.com> writes
>Don't you mean "Mercedes Bent"? (sorry for being insentive, but the
>opportunity to pun is more important.)
you should know by now that the British love nothing more than to laugh
at themselves, Erik ! I've been laughing about last week and my mishaps
ever since .... in fact I rolled on the floor when his morning's post
brought a Court summons for running a red light (caught on camera) which
happened on the same day as the restructuring of my dealer's car and the
day after I dropped the laptop. Let the gods hurl their rocks and I will
be here to catch them ;-)
Erik - do you know anything about British politics ? This morning the
leader of the *Monster Raving Loony Party*, Screaming Lord Sutch
committed suicide. The Union Jack at the Houses of Parliament was flying
at half mast when I went past earlier. He was the nutter who wore a top
hat and leopard skin shirts and carried a megaphone - favourite pastime
was to turn up at party political broadcasts with his slogans 'Vote for
Insanity you know it makes sense' and 'New Loony, no danger'. he wanted
to turn the butter mountain into a ski slope for Eddie the Eagle and to
breed fish in the wine lake so they came out ready pickled. Once he
canvassed Richmond, Surrey, before discovering he should have been at
Richmond, Yorkshire, for a by-election !
Goodness knows who I will vote for at the next election now !!
ayardofaleortwo (hey, has anyone actually tried to drink a yard of ale
... does everyone know what a yard of ale is ??)
Alison
ali...@raimes.demon.co.uk
http://www.raimes.demon.co.uk
Quo Vadis
<scarl...@theriver.com> writes
>You need a seance to call her, but you're in luck! I have several family
>members in that business...
Kay: Have you ever been to a seance ? when we were teenagers we messed
around with the occult all the time - two of our group were *mediums* -
fascinating stuff especially the Ouija board and levitating. I mentioned
my friend Paule to you recently (the red shoes girl) - and that she is a
white witch - I mean a serious follower of it as a *religion* not the
kids who mess with something they don't know about and base all their
ideas on myths. *Real* witchcraft/magic is really educating stuff - all
the mumbo jumbo of it suddenly becomes mind boggling to anyone
interested in the potential of the mind and its power of focus. Nothing
to do with the after world of course !
>She lived to be over 90, I think. Assemblage
>artist. Awesome! Erik loves her.
Had a look at her photo ... so that is what turns Erik on eh ? Weird ...
I guess the film was more revealing !
>Artwork: www.echonyc.com/~whitnet/collection/featured/intro.html
Couldn't get this one to work ... is the address correct ?
How's the painting going Kay ? have you really pulled the plug or are
you just skimming us until you have more time ? I'm getting the idea of
being an artist now - sell a painting: get a parking fine; sell another:
crunch the laptop; and sell one more: get done for running a light ....
its all becoming very clear now !
TTFN - Ta ta for now !
Alison
ali...@raimes.demon.co.uk
http://www.raimes.demon.co.uk
Erik A. Mattila
Quo Vadis wrote:
> In article <%7o93.12834$G01.3...@news3.giganews.com>, Kay
> <scarl...@theriver.com> writes
>
> >You need a seance to call her, but you're in luck! I have several family
> >members in that business...
>
> Kay: Have you ever been to a seance ? when we were teenagers we messed
> around with the occult all the time - two of our group were *mediums* -
> fascinating stuff especially the Ouija board and levitating. I mentioned
> my friend Paule to you recently (the red shoes girl) - and that she is a
> white witch - I mean a serious follower of it as a *religion* not the
> kids who mess with something they don't know about and base all their
> ideas on myths. *Real* witchcraft/magic is really educating stuff - all
> the mumbo jumbo of it suddenly becomes mind boggling to anyone
> interested in the potential of the mind and its power of focus. Nothing
> to do with the after world of course !
>
> >She lived to be over 90, I think. Assemblage
> >artist. Awesome! Erik loves her.
>
> Had a look at her photo ... so that is what turns Erik on eh ? Weird ...
> I guess the film was more revealing !
No, it was that bossy attittude she had . Puhish me, punish me!
Erik
Kay
Quo Vadis wrote in message ...
:In article <%7o93.12834$G01.3...@news3.giganews.com>, Kay
:<scarl...@theriver.com> writes
:
:>You need a seance to call her, but you're in luck! I have several family
:>members in that business...
(snipping Seance which I'll answer later)
:
:>She lived to be over 90, I think. Assemblage
:>artist. Awesome! Erik loves her.
:
:Had a look at her photo ... so that is what turns Erik on eh ? Weird ...
:I guess the film was more revealing !
:>Artwork: www.echonyc.com/~whitnet/collection/featured/intro.html
***Correction of my poor typing abilities:
Artwork: www.echonyc.com/~whitney/collection/featured/intro.html
(I had put whitnet instead of whitney - computers are SO fussy!)
I think what turns Erik on (and me) is her forceful personality, her
self-confidence, her determination, etc. She inspires me so much as an
artist even though she was a sculptor and I'm a painter. I took the film
Erik and I speak about and showed my class on Tuesday (they always love her
eyelashes, minks and cigarettes - about 4 or 5 in a 30 minute film) and in
addition to loving her nubile (can we use that word to describe males?)
young studio assistants - you should see it Alison "Up about an inch. No put
it back down about a half inch. No put is where it was in the beginning. Is
that too much trouble, darling?" - I love her attitude about gender "I've
got balls" about her life "I can't look back, it would destroy me" and about
the process of making art "To me, it is the same as giving birth but I call
it *psycic labor pains* - extremely painful but you can't make art without
it and I experience it each and every time I make art..." I came home very
enthused because I had been going through some *psychic labor pains* doing
my own art and it's nice to be validated and inspired so much.
:
:Couldn't get this one to work ... is the address correct ?
No. Can't type. I put the (I hope) correct address above whitney, not
whitnet! They have a slide show of her work. Black Chord the best example,
to me, of her black compartmentalized assemblages.
:
:How's the painting going Kay ?
It really, really sucked big time, but now it is wonderful!!!
: have you really pulled the plug or are
:you just skimming us until you have more time ?
Not reading at all or I wouldn't be able to tear myself away from this
screen. Tonight, in the desert, its raining so I had to close the studio
windows and it is so hot and stuffy (don't care about fumes or anything)
that it is too uncomfortable to work..
I'm getting the idea of
:being an artist now - sell a painting: get a parking fine; sell another:
:crunch the laptop; and sell one more: get done for running a light ....
:its all becoming very clear now !
Damn! I didn't know you had to SELL the painting for that. I've been doing
it all wrong. I've got the running lights tickets, speeding tickets, no
seatbelt tickets, expired tags tickets and fender benders and I've lately
GIVEN my paintings to various art charity auctions... Sell the painting
first?
:TTFN - Ta ta for now !
:Alison
: ali...@raimes.demon.co.uk
: http://www.raimes.demon.co.uk
I learn something knew every day!
Kay
Quo Vadis
<emat...@tomatoweb.com> writes
>No, it was that bossy attittude she had . Puhish me, punish me!
>Erik
starting to build up a pretty good picture of you now Erik !! Are you
into leather too ?
ayardofaleortwo
Alison
ali...@raimes.demon.co.uk
http://www.raimes.demon.co.uk
Erik A. Mattila
Quo Vadis wrote:
No, leather is passe. The latest is Hair Robes. This time of year,
where I am living, in is an act of pennance just to go outside.
Erik
Kay
Erik A. Mattila wrote in message <376B522B...@tomatoweb.com>...
:
:
Fortunately, I know nothing about Hair Robes. Curious, but afraid to ask!
(What a vivid picture that gives me <cringe> yet somehow in this I picture
you with a Hugh Hefneresque pipe in your mouth and it somehow *works*)
Kay
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Erik A. Mattila
"Monks Habit" (you know, like Friar Tuck) and these were reonwned to be
painfully skratchy and uncomfortable --ON PURPOSE -- so the monk would never
really be comfortable. Why -- for the same reason the Penitantes beat
themselves with a whip.
Can't tell you what "Marmite" is. Maybe it's that stuff Alison uses in her
paintings.
Erik
tin...@home.com
subject: web pages
If you are using a computer and have netscape
browser it should come with a composer (microsoft
also provides a composer) that you can use to
create basic web pages. Most people have some type
of Internet service provider (ISP), and normally
the service provider gives 5mb or more of web
space. They will tell you how to access that
space. If you have WebTV there may be other
problems
Composers are much like word processors and very
easy to use, after a few hours practice. After a
while you will figure out how to adjust the
composer code to your own taste.
The next problem is getting your finished page to
your web site. You can use free FTP software to do
that. Composers also have a publish feature that I
started to figure out after I figured out how the
use the FTP
You can get free web site space, I got 12mb at the
globe. There are conditions, they advertise on
your site. The globe will it says promote your
site in what ever way it does in one city for
free. I chose New York. If you go this route let
me know because the globe is a tricky site to
manage, but once you create a door page it's easy,
just don't play around with the door page once you
get it to work.
There are tricks to speeding up the loading of
your graphics, myself or someone else can give you
information on that.
have fun
_________tinman end________