Dani, Dani, Dani!
I'm so glad you're back... you're my hero!
Luv ya, luv ya, luv ya!
(oh no! I really am PMSing... three mood swings in half an
hour... But I really do love you!)
Hugs
Murielle
<of Dani_K>
> You really do live up to your reputation as an asshole.
Um, what reputation is that?
I can't remember anyone saying Dani is an asshole for quite a long
time...
Hoping you were joking,
--
Jon Skeet
When 900 years old *you* reach, look as good *you* will not, hmm?
Yoda - http://yoda.trin.cam.ac.uk. Geek code:
d- s:- a-- C++ UL++ P+ L++ W+++ N++ w--- M-- t- 5 X+ tv b+++ D+ G h* r++
>Hi guys,
>Howya been? I missed you.
Hiya Dani. I confess missing your posts. Maybe that explains
something. ;-)
>It was very weird to be able to read a flame war and not
>be able to be involved. Prolly good for me but I did a lot
>of fingernail biting.
ROFL
>Not that I have a shitload of room to talk since I've
>been known to drag these things on for weeks myself, but
>it really does seem to me that everyone has said everything
>it's possible to say...in short concise posts and in long
>flowing prose.
>So, I have just a teeny weeny suggestion...
>Shut up, wouldja?
If you put it that way, how can I refuse :-)
>Huggles and smoochies,
Time for an grouphug !
Fred
There are two worlds of magic
One is the glittering domain of the illusionist.
The other is a secret place, where
magic is a terrifying reality
Here, men have the power of demons.
And Death itself is an illusion.
Clive Barker - Lord of Illusions
On 3 Nov 1996, Dani_K wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Howya been? I missed you.
Same to you, lady! I mean we *really* missed you!!
> So, I have just a teeny weeny suggestion...
>
> Shut up, wouldja?
>
> Huggles and smoochies,
>
> Dani K.
This is better than those joyful "flavored coffee" moments.....
just kick back, feel the warmth, smell the aroma of mocha,
and say "Dani's back, and all will be well."
Jan, who loves you babe!!
On 3 Nov 1996, Peter Price wrote:
> You really do live up to your reputation as an asshole.
Dani is my hero, the daughter I never had. You, on the
other hand could learn from your own sig.
> "Clever people learn from others' mistakes.
> Fools learn from their own."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jan
Jan Junod ju...@u.washington.edu
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Peter, Peter! I hope this was meant as a joke on your part, although
it certainly doesn't come out that way! Dani K. may _have_ an a$$hole,
but she certainly _isn't_ one. As far as I can recall, neither of these
two possibilities have been discussed in-depth on ABSK.
We love Dani.
We do as Dani says (sometimes...).
Don't try to slag Dani totally without reason, Peter. That just shows
you've missed something.
Jon R.
-She's back! She's back!-
>
> This is better than those joyful "flavored coffee" moments.....
> just kick back, feel the warmth, smell the aroma of mocha,
> and say "Dani's back, and all will be well."
Shit! I couldn't have said it better myself!
Welcome back Dani! We missed you!
Kim
--
Kim Murrell ki...@mail.warped.com
"having a pony to ride was better than no pony at all,
no matter how the weather of it's heart might lie."
Opposition: Dani K. is a big meanie. She appears to be
a large mass of flesh (resembleming my face..hmmm?) with
a single orifice located aproximately in the center.
She is often known to emit a foul oder. Due to these
characteristics I believe that Dani K. is an asshole.
Ok now I challenge all of you who believe this to
make your opposition's argument! Prefice your
argument with I don't believe any of this!
Let's see some in depth discussion of this very
important topic!
BTW:
You should all shut up.
Tina :P~~~
--
"It's true! We're so lame!"- Homer J. Simpson
>I'm not gonna preach (I promise). I'll start this post
>off by giving the oppositions argument and telling
>you that I don't believe any of it! Now remember
>that because it is important to what I'm going to say!
>
>
>Opposition: Dani K. is a big meanie. She appears to be
>a large mass of flesh (resembleming my face..hmmm?) with
>a single orifice located aproximately in the center.
>She is often known to emit a foul oder. Due to these
>characteristics I believe that Dani K. is an asshole.
>
>Ok now I challenge all of you who believe this to
>make your opposition's argument! Prefice your
>argument with I don't believe any of this!
[...]
I hate to be a hardass, but I have to butt in here and give my opinion:
Dani is definitely an asshole, the reason being that when someone plops
into this group and behaves like a potty-mouth, Dani will shit all over
him. Also, in one of our many OT (Off-Toilet) debates I once saw an old
fart blowing hot air in his rebuttal; when Dani found out, she rectum.
With Apologies,
Bryan Byun ("Stool" in Korean)
>Sphincter Boy wrote:
>> I hate to be a hardass, but I have to butt in here and give my opinion:
>> Dani is definitely an asshole, the reason being that when someone plops
>> into this group and behaves like a potty-mouth, Dani will shit all over
>> him. Also, in one of our many OT (Off-Toilet) debates I once saw an old
>> fart blowing hot air in his rebuttal; when Dani found out, she rectum.
> Bryan! I thought that you one of your arguments while trying to
>prove your divinity, said something about your lack of foul odor.
>This means that your new pseudonym is the final clinching proof of your
>non-divinity.
Stein, Stein, Stein...as you're a heretic I can hardly expect you to keep
up with the scriptures, so let me set you straight -- Sphincter Boy is the
Son of Dark Penguin, sent down to redeem humanity for its chronic
flatulence. I suggest you consult the holy text, Dark Penguin vs. the
Beagle Boys #232: "Anal and Void", and find enlightenment therein.
--
Dark Penguin, Deity
Bryan! I thought that you one of your arguments while trying to
prove your divinity, said something about your lack of foul odor.
This means that your new pseudonym is the final clinching proof of your
non-divinity.
Yessssss!
Stein.
Stein, for your information, The Dark Penguin has been granted the
status of minor deity in this thread. By me, now God in four threads.
(And counting.)
Jon R.
I'm *still* waiting for Dani to rip Peter a new one.
See? She said she'd try to be nice, and she was! That was not
a Dani_K flame of old...
If you'd like to see an example Peter, I'd be happy to send you my
favorite which was directed towards a spammer... in my book it
was the ultimate! I keep waiting for an opportunity to arise for me to
use it. I'd be happy to show it to you via e-mail, if you'd like <g>
***with Dani's permission, of course***
Janet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Believe half of what you see and none
of what you hear.
*Somebody, somewhere, sometime*
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Stein, for your information, The Dark Penguin has been granted the
>status of minor deity in this thread. By me, now God in four threads.
>(And counting.)
>
>Jon R.
Does that count my latest, Jon? Shakespeare, King and God?
Janet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If I listened long enough to you
I'd find a way to believe that it's all true.
Knowing, that you lied...
T. Hardin as sung by Rod Stewart...
*not* the Bangles!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oh Bryan!
Thank you! You have no idea how much I needed that laugh tonight.
Now, if I can just get the neo-citrin out of my nose, and off my keyboard
before it gets sticky all will be right with the world.
Oh, I missed y'all *so* much. I'm never, ever going to stay away
again. I need this far too much!
Huge hugs!
Murielle
>
> I hate to be a hardass, but I have to butt in here and give my opinion:
> Dani is definitely an asshole, the reason being that when someone plops
> into this group and behaves like a potty-mouth, Dani will shit all over
> him. Also, in one of our many OT (Off-Toilet) debates I once saw an old
> fart blowing hot air in his rebuttal; when Dani found out, she rectum.
Yup. Rectum...damn near killed 'em. <G>
Kim
BTW, does anyone know the joke to that punchline?
>Oh Bryan!
>
> Thank you! You have no idea how much I needed that laugh tonight.
>Now, if I can just get the neo-citrin out of my nose, and off my keyboard
>before it gets sticky all will be right with the world.
I should thank you! You have no idea how much I needed a kind word. I've
been down lately. So, hugs right back at ya!
> Oh, I missed y'all *so* much. I'm never, ever going to stay away
>again. I need this far too much!
Finally, someone who *doesn't* want to leave absk! : D
--
Bryan Byun bb...@linkline.com
<http://linkline.com/personal/bbyun/bryan/schmenge.html>
-------------------------------------------------------
He had been a precocious child. An intellectual. At twelve,
he had translated the poems of T.S. Eliot into English.
-- Woody Allen
: > Also, in one of our many OT (Off-Toilet) debates I once saw an old
: > fart blowing hot air in his rebuttal; when Dani found out, she rectum.
: Yup. Rectum...damn near killed 'em. <G>
: BTW, does anyone know the joke to that punchline?
Nope...I'm not even sure that there IS one. That's a line that
I've been using off and on since I first heard it in high school.
--
Bev Vincent
Houston, TX
Nah. In that thread I'll be "Larger Than Life".
Jon R.
> Yup. Rectum...damn near killed 'em. <G>
>
> Kim
>
> BTW, does anyone know the joke to that punchline?
A kid was walking to school and he saw the aftermath of a motorcycle
accident. When he got to school he was so excited that he started telling
the teacher the whole story finishing with the claim that the
motorcyclist had been lying in the grass with the tail pipe stuck up his
ass.
The teacher said ... Johnny!!! "Rectum", please.
And Johnny replied ... "Rectum? ... damn near killed him!"
Stevie Canuck
--
Living and dying we feed the fire.
Jacob Steep
> A kid was walking to school and he saw the aftermath of a motorcycle
> accident. When he got to school he was so excited that he started
> telling the teacher the whole story finishing with the claim that the
> motorcyclist had been lying in the grass with the tail pipe stuck up > his ass.
>
> The teacher said ... Johnny!!! "Rectum", please.
>
> And Johnny replied ... "Rectum? ... damn near killed him!"
>
And believe it or not I laughed and laughed and laughed. All I
can say is.....
Leave it up to Stevie to know the joke.
Janine
--
Let us think the unthinkable, let us do the undoable. Let us
prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, an see if we may
not eff it after all. -- Dirk Gently
J U S T K I D D I N G, D A N I !!
DaveBer
David E. Holcomb <dav...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<55m648$n...@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>...
Please note, Dani definitely has an *arsehole* (as most human beings do),
I don't think among her collection of strange objects she has an asshole
(the mind boggles as to what one would look like).
>We love Dani.
But alas, only Stan gets to be married to her.
--
Alex Heatley Information Technology Services
Domain: Alex.H...@vuw.ac.nz Victoria University of Wellington
Path: I don't support bang paths P.O Box 600, New Zealand.
Web Page: http://www.vuw.ac.nz/~thetroll/index.html
Seizing the point, he beat the argument to death with it.
On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Dark Penguin wrote:
> I should thank you! You have no idea how much I needed a kind word. I've
> been down lately. So, hugs right back at ya!
(blush!) Well, you know... Hugging is one of the things I've
actually mastered! So, anytime you need a hug... just holler!
> Finally, someone who *doesn't* want to leave absk! : D
You Bet! I feel so guilty about staying away so long... I
honestly just lost track of time.
Feel better soon!
Hugs again,
Murielle
In this case, would it be fair to say Stevie's been anally
retentive? :)
>I hate to be a hardass, but I have to butt in here and give my opinion:
>Dani is definitely an asshole, the reason being that when someone plops
>into this group and behaves like a potty-mouth, Dani will shit all over
>him. Also, in one of our many OT (Off-Toilet) debates I once saw an old
>fart blowing hot air in his rebuttal; when Dani found out, she rectum.
Hahaha! This is by fart he funniest fake posting I ever saw!
Chuckie chuckie chuckieeeeee!
Angelo
--
rcb...@urc.tue.nl (internet) Hemelrijken 167, 5612 LC Eindhoven, Netherlands
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The good are innocent and create justice. The bad are guilty, which is why
they invent mercy." -- Terry Pratchett, Witches Abroad.
Eh? Enlighten this poor misguided foreigner about the difference between
the terms "ass" (which I know can also be a donkey) and "arse", please.
I thought "arse" was just a slight euphemism. Of course, if this is
wrong, I'll have to reread all my English books due to this newfound
insight.
As for your point: That was my point also. (about D having an a.)
Jon R.
>
> Chuckie chuckie chuckieeeeee!
>
> Angelo
So's that typo--Freudian slip, mayhap? :-0
Scribbler
LOL!!!
Thanks Stevie!
I can't wait to tell Dan. He's beem trying to remember that joke for months. :)
KIm
>>Hahaha! This is by fart he funniest fake posting I ever saw!
>>
>No way, Angelo! I think *your* post is the funniest! :-D
Heh, heh. And to think I get payed for doing this ;-)
Well, not actually, but let's just say that my job doesn't exactly keep me
from it ;=D
>Angelo Wentzler wrote:
>> Hahaha! This is by fart he funniest fake posting I ever saw!
^^^^^^^^^^
>So's that typo--Freudian slip, mayhap? :-0
Intentional, of course, don't be ridiculos. (Ah, he noticed! Sigh)
>bu...@hole.com (Sphincter Boy) writes:
>
>>I hate to be a hardass, but I have to butt in here and give my opinion:
>>Dani is definitely an asshole, the reason being that when someone plops
>>into this group and behaves like a potty-mouth, Dani will shit all over
>>him. Also, in one of our many OT (Off-Toilet) debates I once saw an old
>>fart blowing hot air in his rebuttal; when Dani found out, she rectum.
>
>Hahaha! This is by fart he funniest fake posting I ever saw!
>
No way, Angelo! I think *your* post is the funniest! :-D
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Barbara Levy
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"There are things here in Derry that bite."
- Albert Carson
: Eh? Enlighten this poor misguided foreigner about the difference between
: the terms "ass" (which I know can also be a donkey) and "arse", please.
: I thought "arse" was just a slight euphemism. Of course, if this is
: wrong, I'll have to reread all my English books due to this newfound
: insight.
'Arse' is the corect form. 'Ass' is used by Americans who can't speak
proper.
Jared
--
Jared Head at the Department of Biochemistry, University of Bristol
"Happily unaware of the disadvantages of being a terrible writer with
nothing to say..."
In article <E0M8s...@fsa.bris.ac.uk>, bi...@zeus.bris.ac.uk (JG. Head) writes:
> 'Arse' is the corect form. 'Ass' is used by Americans who can't speak
> proper.
From the perspective of someone who's had to learn your language:
English has got to be the most incosistent language in the world when it
comes to spelling rules. I took some French once, and if you learn a few
basic spelling rules, you know how to spell everything.
At least the American's have made an attempt at reforming the chaos, albeit
a half hearted one, by removing all those redundant 'U's. Take that
ridiculously baroque word "through" for instance. Americans are allowed to
spell it "thru". That's 42.9% shorter! Think about all that time saved!
Why so few Americans use that version of the word is beyond me tho'...
Vegard.
--
If you can't beat them, confuse them.
>At least the American's have made an attempt at reforming the chaos, albeit
>a half hearted one, by removing all those redundant 'U's. Take that
Let me agree to that one hndred percent. All those stpid 's are jst a waste
of time. Yo broght p a valid point here, bt why jst the redndant 's? Why
not all of them? Can the sckers!
Chckie chckie chckieeeeee!
Ahem. Shouldn't that be "can't speak properly?"
On 12 Nov 1996, Angelo Wentzler wrote:
> veg...@ifi.uio.no (Vegard ) writes:
> >At least the American's have made an attempt at reforming the chaos, albeit
> >a half hearted one, by removing all those redundant 'U's. Take that
> Let me agree to that one hndred percent. All those stpid 's are jst a waste
> of time. Yo broght p a valid point here, bt why jst the redndant 's? Why
> not all of them? Can the sckers!
>
> Chckie chckie chckieeeeee!
ROTFL!! Now *that* was really fnny, Angelo!! And it even
makes your sig hilarios!!
Jan
Jan Jnod jn...@u.washington.edu
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> Ahem. Shouldn't that be "can't speak properly?"
Yes. It's a sort of joke, you see? Like "You should talk proper,
like what I do." Never mind Jared, I thought it was funny.
> As a nation we British feel very guilty about how poor our understanding
> of foreign languages is, and how everybody else in Europe seems to speak
> our language fluently (and the fact that we're having this conversation
> in English not Norwegian backs that up!). If we made the spelling easier
> the situation would be even worse. I suggest we make our spelling
> harder; that way it will be more difficult for people to learn English as
> a second language and we won't have to feel quite as bad.
Oh, I don't think I feel guilty. English is clearly the best
language ever, and I see no reason to learn any other. ;)
Cue Flanders and Swann: "The English, the English, the English are
best, I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest..."
: From the perspective of someone who's had to learn your language:
: English has got to be the most incosistent language in the world when it
: comes to spelling rules. I took some French once, and if you learn a few
: basic spelling rules, you know how to spell everything.
:
: At least the American's have made an attempt at reforming the chaos, albeit
: a half hearted one, by removing all those redundant 'U's. Take that
: ridiculously baroque word "through" for instance. Americans are allowed to
: spell it "thru". That's 42.9% shorter! Think about all that time saved!
: Why so few Americans use that version of the word is beyond me tho'...
Don't start me off on Americans and their dropped u's. Have they no
regard for aesthetics?
As a nation we British feel very guilty about how poor our understanding
of foreign languages is, and how everybody else in Europe seems to speak
our language fluently (and the fact that we're having this conversation
in English not Norwegian backs that up!). If we made the spelling easier
the situation would be even worse. I suggest we make our spelling
harder; that way it will be more difficult for people to learn English as
a second language and we won't have to feel quite as bad.
Jared
Oh, I get it. Forgive me for being such an ass. ;-)
: Oh, I don't think I feel guilty. English is clearly the best
: language ever, and I see no reason to learn any other. ;)
:
: Cue Flanders and Swann: "The English, the English, the English are
: best, I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest..."
That reminds me of Francis Urqhart. "Let's not worry about a common
currency, what Europe needs is a common language, and the obvious choice
is... English."
I couldn't possibly comment.
>> That reminds me of Francis Urqhart. "Let's not worry about a common
>> currency, what Europe needs is a common language, and the obvious choice
>> is... English."
>I couldn't possibly comment.
Bt, bt, yo jst did!
Oh boy. Live and let live. Personally I keep my OED *and* my Websters,
so noboby gets offended. In regards as to *why* every English speaking
nation *except* the US adhers to the traditional spelling, one valid
reason is that of association with the roots. Perhaps most Americans go
through life without leaning the *dead* languages from which English was
born, but many of the (albeit older generation) English might have relied
on the ou diphthong in their own vernacular as a way to learn more
quickly the Koine counterpart. It isn't so much pragmatism as it is
simple regard and love for the language. That said, there's no denying
that language, by its very definition, is a thing of evolution. I
however (having had to learn Koine and Doric Greek, Latin, Old English
and Middle English) found the retentions to be incredibly helpful when I
was trying to pack in archaic vocab--and coversely, my ability to spell
at the drop of a hat an English word new to me, is nothing to be sneezed
at thanks to the similarities many words yet retain to their foreign
roots. Etymology is a fascination for many, and if it remains in our
lives simply by proxy, in our "extended" alphabet, so what? I know this
will sound worse than I intend, and every country is guilty of its own
jingoism (the Brits, Canadians and Aussies being no better or worse), but
this is just another example of Yank "play my way or get out of the game"
(even though Kate obviously is being light-hearted, and only responded in
defense--I'm referring to others, actually, and not the above statement
so much). Personally, I've met some of the folk who tried to learn to
read via Switched on Phonics, and they're no better off as a demographic
than those of us who lapped up the language the old fashioned way. When
it comes to languages severed by an ocean and a few
generations--Quebecois French, South American Spanish, N. American
English--I never understood this sourness we "newbie" colonists have
towards our ancestral cultures. I think it's fun to watch the evolution
and size up the differences made over time. Hm. If language is the
banner of a culture, what does the "lazier" spelling of America say about
its people? What does the adherence to traditional spelling say about
the Brits (and Canadians?). Why not examine this great fun info and
cogitate for a while, rather than try to incite a (if humourous)
"book-burning"? When did love of language cease to be? If some believe
language ought only to be as practical as possible, then I guess you'll
have to toss Poetry out the window. I tutor a functionally illiterate
ex-con who's bright as hell but very basic, and even *he* gets excited
when he discovers the old poetry of the English language, of his own
volition. I keep it as simple as possible--this guy wants to make
fountains out of dams. It's wonderful, and leads me to wonder if love of
language isn't more natural than we think, and has nothing to do with
learned "elitism".
I just wanted to beat the corpse a little, meself. ;)
Scribbler
<waiting for the nationalistic sparks to fly...this should be fun!>
It's shorter, and therefore better now, anyway. CongratulatJons on the
improvement, Angelo!
Jon R.
>> That reminds me of Francis Urqhart. "Let's not worry about a common
>> currency, what Europe needs is a common language, and the obvious
choice
>> is... English."
>I couldn't possibly comment.
Jon ... it took me half-a-dozen readings to remember why that was a joke.
:)
JMA
(a slow American who didn't get to see the third part and hopes FU died
nastily ... or better yet, didn't die at all and had to live in total
obscurity)
"In all these things, we are more than conquerors ..."
Janet Aldrich
Clev...@aol.com
> <snipped my bits in order to be able to post this to the reader>
>
> Well, Scribbler, I hope you didn't intend it the way it sounds, because
> "jingoism" sounds pretty bad. And though you acknowledge that I was
> joking, I can't find an antecedent other than my post for "this
> is just another example" in the above quote. You seem to be accusing me
> of harboring/harbouring the stereotypical American prejudice toward
> "stuffy British English" that I was trying to spoof. I didn't respond
> to Jared's post "in defense," since I didn't feel insulted; I thought
> that what I said was absurd enough to make that clear.
>
> I'm puzzled. Do you really see evidence of a loss of love of language in
> this thread-- which is, after all, a joke? Is the English language too
> sacrosanct for jokes? Good thing nobody told Shakespeare that. Come
> to think of it, he had just the right words for this situation:
>
> "Look you, if you take the matter otherwise than is meant ... peradventure
> I shall think you do not use me with that affability as in discretion you
> ought to use me, look you." --Fluellen, _Henry V_
>
> Kate
Kate--two words: Jonathan Swift. Since you apparently are equipped with
Norton's Anthology of British Literature, as evidenced through the above,
look up A Modest Proposal. I like jokes, too--long rambling
"fascinating" ones Sorry if it didn't fit the mood of the spoof, which I
was only taking a little further in a true "English Language" vein.
<flogged right through the corpse's left thigh!>
Scrib
: Well, Scribbler, I hope you didn't intend it the way it sounds, because
: "jingoism" sounds pretty bad. And though you acknowledge that I was
: joking, I can't find an antecedent other than my post for "this
: is just another example" in the above quote. You seem to be accusing me
: of harboring/harbouring the stereotypical American prejudice toward
: "stuffy British English" that I was trying to spoof. I didn't respond
: to Jared's post "in defense," since I didn't feel insulted; I thought
^^^^^^^
: that what I said was absurd enough to make that clear.
Bloody Americans - that should surely be "defence"!
>
> I just wanted to beat the corpse a little, meself. ;)
>
> Scribbler
> <waiting for the nationalistic sparks to fly...this should be fun!>
The corpse is now dead.
Dean
--
"I've seen fire and I've seen rain
I've seen summer days I thought would never end
I've seen lonely times when I could not find a friend,
But I always thought that I'd see you again" J.T.
Heck, I been sayin' for years that de Brits could learn from dem Irish
bards, man <g> They gotta be proud.
Scrib
By its very definition, I woulda thought it had been quite expired
("bleeding demised!") from the beginning... <g>
Scribbler
It was tempting to put the "You might think that..." bit in front,
but I thought I'd make it a *little* bit more obscure :)
Nice to hear that America got House Of Cards though. IMO, one of the
best dramas in the last ten years.
>Heck, I been sayin' for years that de Brits could learn from dem Irish
>bards, man <g> They gotta be proud.
Ahem! As a Brit with Irish ancestry, I don't know whether to be
insulted or proud!
Carol.
Christmas comes but once a year.
Thank God I'm not Christmas.
Graffiti: Luton
<wide-eyed smile of innocence> As a Welsh/Scot descendant but no Brit or
Irish in me, I can only say I'm jealous. I mean, of the Irish Lit.
tradition. The English one is fab, too, but it seems to me the wee Irish
get lumped into the whole, and sometimes aren't given credit where it's
due <pout> Then again, the same could be said for the Scots and the
Welsh, huh? I remember reading Wilde's faery stories when I was under
ten, and lerving the whole thing. Since then I've been a little bit of
an Irish Lit. zealot in general <mea culpa> I *still* say Portrait of
Dorian Grey is denser and more universal than *anything* DH Lawrence
wrote.
Food fight!
Scribbler
>> 'Arse' is the corect form. 'Ass' is used by Americans who can't speak
>> proper.
Well, it's the earlier term, certainly (apart from in the phrase 'arse/ass
around', which is an allusion to the animal).
>From the perspective of someone who's had to learn your language:
>English has got to be the most incosistent language in the world when it
That's just to make a primary school teacher's job more varied and
interesting. :)
>comes to spelling rules. I took some French once, and if you learn a few
>basic spelling rules, you know how to spell everything.
What, rules like 'Never try to spell a word simply based on how it sounds'?
ISTR that there are 5-6 ways of spelling some sounds...
>At least the American's have made an attempt at reforming the chaos, albeit
>a half hearted one, by removing all those redundant 'U's. Take that
>ridiculously baroque word "through" for instance. Americans are allowed to
And why not the ridiculously baroque word 'baroque'? It could so easily be
'baroq', apart from that some Americans seem convinced that the 'o' sound
is long...
>spell it "thru". That's 42.9% shorter! Think about all that time saved!
>Why so few Americans use that version of the word is beyond me tho'...
Because it'd be a shame to waste all those years learning how to spell
it...
kwaheri, Kieron
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><wide-eyed smile of innocence> As a Welsh/Scot descendant but no Brit or
>Irish in me, I can only say I'm jealous. I mean, of the Irish Lit.
>tradition. The English one is fab, too, but it seems to me the wee Irish
>get lumped into the whole, and sometimes aren't given credit where it's
>due <pout> Then again, the same could be said for the Scots and the
>Welsh, huh? I remember reading Wilde's faery stories when I was under
>ten, and lerving the whole thing.
So glad you mentioned Wilde. I picked up a copy of his complete works
yesterday for 2.50 <big smile> and I have always loved The Importance
of Being Earnest. It's Margaret Rutherford's fault. Hearing her say
"A Handbag?" in that haughty voice of hers has stayed with me all my
life. Now, when I'm searching all over the house for my bag (which
happens frequently) I find myself calling for it "Haaandbaaag?" (can't
do it in print - sorry!) and my kids crack up. Haven't read the faery
stories yet. Looking forward to that...
> Since then I've been a little bit of
>an Irish Lit. zealot in general <mea culpa> I *still* say Portrait of
>Dorian Grey is denser and more universal than *anything* DH Lawrence
>wrote.
I'm looking forward to reading that too. I've seen the film of
course, but films don't do what literature does. Not to me anyway.
I've e-mailed you one of my former surnames, for your solitary
enjoyment!
>Food fight!
ROFL!! Okay whaddya got? I've only got bacon handy at the moment...
<Carol throws a rasher of bacon at Scrib, which smacks him on the
forehead and slides slowly down his face>
Kathleen Wells (kw4...@concentric.net) wrote:
> Jared Head wrote:
> >
> > Kathleen Wells (kw4...@concentric.net) wrote:
> >
>
> > : I didn't respond
> > : to Jared's post "in defense," since I didn't feel insulted;
> > ^^^^^^^
> > Bloody Americans - that should surely be "defence"!
> >
> > Jared
>
>
> Okay, *now* I'm insulted. "Defence" is what you put around your property
> to keep trespassers away.
>
> Kate
I think the problem we have here is that we unconsciously treat
English as a language belonging to Great Britain. I think those days are
long past. Probably went with the Empire.
English is now a truly international language, which no single
country can claim proprietary rights over.
We could probably start classifying it as American English,
(English English ?) (sounds like Major Major in CATCH-22).
Anyway, I love the language.
SS
jep, ik
Aan 17-11-96 1:02, in bericht <N.111796....@ldn3-12.worldaccess.nl>,
From now on, we only want:............ <man...@worldaccess.nl> schreef:
> Zijn er ook Nederlandstalige King-fans around?
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>
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>
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Aye. His comedies are fun, best of the genre, and yet my personal fave
has got to be Salome. "There is nothing in all the world more white than
your skin, John the Baptiste, more black than your hair, more red than
your mouth. Let me kiss your mouth, John the Baptiste..." (not
verbatim). Wilde's aesthetic descriptions give me shivers, even though
they're a little out-of-touch nowadays. BTW, in reading his works, look
for the mention of pomegranates, which surfaces in almost every one of
his plays/stories and book. The fruit of *love* <smarmy voice> It seems
to be his favourite symbol, his trademark. And can I be ANY MORE
IRRELEVANT??? Sorry.
> >Food fight!
>
> ROFL!! Okay whaddya got? I've only got bacon handy at the moment...
> <Carol throws a rasher of bacon at Scrib, which smacks him on the
> forehead and slides slowly down his face>
<laughing and ducking> O man, it's melted molasses for you!
Scribbler
In article <1364.6894...@spuddy.mew.co.uk>, kie...@spuddy.mew.co.uk
(Kieron Dunbar) writes:
> >comes to spelling rules. I took some French once, and if you learn a few
> >basic spelling rules, you know how to spell everything.
>
> What, rules like 'Never try to spell a word simply based on how it sounds'?
> ISTR that there are 5-6 ways of spelling some sounds...
Well, at least compared to English, I found it much easier. Two of the
problems I still have, is choosing whether to spell something with an S or
a C (e.g. defence or defense) or EE or EA (e.g. seem or seam). And why is
there two Os in "choose", and one in "lose"? "Read" is spelled the same
in past and present tense, still it's pronounced differently. I could go
on and on...
> >At least the American's have made an attempt at reforming the chaos, albeit
> >a half hearted one, by removing all those redundant 'U's. Take that
> >ridiculously baroque word "through" for instance. Americans are allowed to
>
> And why not the ridiculously baroque word 'baroque'? It could so easily be
> 'baroq',
Exactly!
--
"Common sense" is merely a stupid absence
of imagination and mental flexibility.
In article <56o4e5$t...@news.nyu.edu>, ss...@is4.nyu.edu (Srinath Sridevan)
writes:
> I think the problem we have here is that we unconsciously treat
> English as a language belonging to Great Britain. I think those days are
> long past. Probably went with the Empire.
> English is now a truly international language, which no single
> country can claim proprietary rights over.
> We could probably start classifying it as American English,
> (English English ?) (sounds like Major Major in CATCH-22).
British English. And British English isn't considered superior to American
English outside the UK, AFAIK. In school, I was told that I had to choose
between writing British or American English -- the important thing is to be
consistant (right...like that's possible). And we learn as much about the
US as we do about the UK.
Way off-topic indulgence in the joys of Oscar Wilde:
>Aye. His comedies are fun, best of the genre, and yet my personal fave
>has got to be Salome. "There is nothing in all the world more white than
>your skin, John the Baptiste, more black than your hair, more red than
>your mouth. Let me kiss your mouth, John the Baptiste..." (not
>verbatim). Wilde's aesthetic descriptions give me shivers, even though
>they're a little out-of-touch nowadays. BTW, in reading his works, look
>for the mention of pomegranates, which surfaces in almost every one of
>his plays/stories and book. The fruit of *love* <smarmy voice> It seems
>to be his favourite symbol, his trademark.
"The pomegranate-flowers that blossom in the garden of Tyre, and are
redder than roses, are not so red. Thy mouth is redder than the feet
of the doves who haunt the temples and are fed by the priests."
Strange. The book fell open at that part of Salomé, and the first
thing my eyes dropped to was the pomegranate line. I was only going
to take a quick peek...
> And can I be ANY MORE IRRELEVANT??? Sorry.
This is a dead thread after all...
>> ROFL!! Okay whaddya got? I've only got bacon handy at the moment...
>> <Carol throws a rasher of bacon at Scrib, which smacks him on the
>> forehead and slides slowly down his face>
><laughing and ducking> O man, it's melted molasses for you!
Yum! Still licking it off my fingers. Got any more? I could use it
in a ginger cake...
Eggs!! KERSPLAT!!!
I wondered if I should join this discussion of Mr.Wilde, but I
just remebered that all art is useless anyway.
Stein.
"Being natural is a very difficult position to pose in."
O.Wilde.
>Nice to hear that America got House Of Cards though. IMO, one of the
>best dramas in the last ten years.
We actually got all three parts, courtesy of PBS. I only got to see the
first
two. I didn't like the second (To Play The King(?)) as well as the first.
I liked
HOC so well I ordered the book from Brentano's. Are the other two in
print
as novels also?
JMA
"In all these things, we are more than conquerors ..."
Janet Aldrich
Clev...@aol.com
> >Aye. His comedies are fun, best of the genre, and yet my personal fave
> >has got to be Salome. "There is nothing in all the world more white than
> >your skin, John the Baptiste, more black than your hair, more red than
> >your mouth. Let me kiss your mouth, John the Baptiste..." (not
> >verbatim). Wilde's aesthetic descriptions give me shivers, even though
> >they're a little out-of-touch nowadays. BTW, in reading his works, look
> >for the mention of pomegranates, which surfaces in almost every one of
> >his plays/stories and book. The fruit of *love* <smarmy voice> It seems
> >to be his favourite symbol, his trademark.
>
> "The pomegranate-flowers that blossom in the garden of Tyre, and are
> redder than roses, are not so red. Thy mouth is redder than the feet
> of the doves who haunt the temples and are fed by the priests."
>
> Strange. The book fell open at that part of Salomé, and the first
> thing my eyes dropped to was the pomegranate line. I was only going
> to take a quick peek...
nee-Nee-NEE-nee nee-Nee-NEE-nee--scaaary stuff, eh, kids?
Look, this ought to be further evidence for all of you that Scribbler is
always right <snicker>
O what's this? A coconut cream pie? O Caaaaaaaarol! <thrup!>
Scribbler
Hey Dean! D'ya mind? We're trying to beat the corpse, here!
<wink>
Scribbler
That, my dear Scribbler, is because size isn't as important as you think.
Jon R.
> >Nice to hear that America got House Of Cards though. IMO, one of the
> >best dramas in the last ten years.
> We actually got all three parts, courtesy of PBS. I only got to see
> the first two. I didn't like the second (To Play The King(?)) as
> well as the first. I liked HOC so well I ordered the book from
> Brentano's. Are the other two in print as novels also?
They certainly are. Drama-wise, I think HOC is the best, but TPTK was still
excellent. "The Final Cut" was a bit disappointing, but still worth
it just for Ian Richardson's eyebrows.
Possibly TPTK works best if you're in a country with a monarchy.
<hee hee> Thanks, Jon, for politely and wittily pointing the error of my
ways--I meant to type, "shape before *colour*". Freudian slip?
Scribbler
Well, the typical and most logical explanation is because English, as we
all know, is the hand-me-down tongue, full of Germanic, Greek, Latin and
Sanskrit roots. It's the pack-rat of languages--mainly because
England suffered not one but THREE invasions, each speaking a
different tongue. I've been told that it's easier for an anglophone to
learn Japanese or Russian, than it is for a Japanese or a Russian to
learn English. What obscures this fact is the wide-spreadedness
(neologize!) of English, so that most people in the world pick it up
decently through media exposure. This seems odd, considering how hard
inflected languages are for us anglos (we rely on syntax, not
declensions, like most other languages). But the rumour persists... I
have to say, maybe I tend to believe this. As an English tutor, it's a
daily brain-pull trying to figure out how to explain a "rule" which
doesn't really have a rule. Why is it the "big red ball" and not the "red
big ball"? Why does shape come before size, in a parade of adjectives?
What a sassy tongue!
Scrib
Groet,
me
Aan 17-11-96 17:41, in bericht <N.111796....@ldn6-11.worldaccess.nl>,
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>That, my dear Scribbler, is because size isn't as important as you think.
My ex-husband used to say that all the time. He was a small man in
lots of ways....not that I'm implying anything...I know those
Norwegian swear-words, and all about your condoms etc! <blush>
Industrial size...on the swear words I mean.
Stein.
>nee-Nee-NEE-nee nee-Nee-NEE-nee--scaaary stuff, eh, kids?
Twilight Zone? Amazing how we can hear the music on the screen ain't
it?
>Look, this ought to be further evidence for all of you that Scribbler is
>always right <snicker>
Never doubted it for a minute!
>O what's this? A coconut cream pie? O Caaaaaaaarol! <thrup!>
Yum <wipe scrape lick> That was *good*! Can I have the recipe?
Good job I wear specs. Creamy eyes are an occupational hazard!
LASAGNE!!! <fwump>
Heeeey <moment of consideration> Chop-licking good!
Scrib
> And why is there two Os in "choose", and one in "lose"?
I don't know, but I'm glad you've got that one. I think "lose" must
be one of the most incorrectly spelt words on the Net. The number of
times I've seen people spell it "loose"... I don't know why, but
this one annoys me more than any other spelling mistake!
In article <56ukci$b...@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, jl...@cam.ac.uk (Jon Skeet) writes:
> Vegard <veg...@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
>
> > And why is there two Os in "choose", and one in "lose"?
>
> I don't know, but I'm glad you've got that one. I think "lose" must
> be one of the most incorrectly spelt words on the Net. The number of
> times I've seen people spell it "loose"... I don't know why, but
> this one annoys me more than any other spelling mistake!
I'm probably the last person in the world who should complain about
spelling mistakes, but what about "cemetery"? 90% of people on the
net spell it "cemetary"! When I first got on the net I spelled it
"cemetery". But when I saw all the people spelling it wrong, I thought
*I* was the one who was wrong, and consequently started spelling it wrong!
Vegard.
>>Food fight!
>ROFL!! Okay whaddya got? I've only got bacon handy at the moment...
><Carol throws a rasher of bacon at Scrib, which smacks him on the
>forehead and slides slowly down his face>
Okay, improvise, what have I got, let me see... Scrambled eggs...
<Angelo scoops up a handfull of scrambled eggs and ruffles Carol's hair with
it. Carol shakes her head and it flies everywhere, severely limiting
Scribbler's vision, as a big chunk splatters on his nose>
Chuckie chuckie chuckieeeeee!
Angelo
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they invent mercy." -- Terry Pratchett, Witches Abroad.
>I don't know, but I'm glad you've got that one. I think "lose" must
>be one of the most incorrectly spelt words on the Net. The number of
>times I've seen people spell it "loose"... I don't know why, but
>this one annoys me more than any other spelling mistake!
What about the apostrophe Jon? Tomato's and potato's on greengrocer
shop window's (oops!<g>). That's my pet hate - it makes me even more
angry when I catch _myself_ doing it because of my typing habits.
It's the worst one. Its and it's. Drives me totally batshit that
one. There are more, but I'm not even going to think about them or
I'll be steaming all afternoon, and I have work to do <mutter chunner
fizz>.
Carol.
"Champagne to our real friends
A real pain to our sham friends."
Champagne toast.
O boy, have you opened yourself up, Chuckle-boy. You shoulda stayed hors
du fracas, mon vieux! Alors: a plate of calf's brains stained with
blackberry sauce--a lurch of *real* Canadian maple syrup--a pound of
fatty raw ground beef--and the topper: a turine of creamed corn!!!!!
<sssssspeeeeeeeee-laaaaaaaaaaTTTTTTT>
Hungry? <g>
Scribbler (shielded behind a plexi-glass attitude)
My own teeth-gritter of late has been the spelling of "Desperation" in
this and many other threads--"Desparation", they sez. Hit me!
Scrib
>LASAGNE!!! <fwump>
Now did I hear my cat there?
Andy (and that 23 pounds of catmeat called Mikko)
Hey Vegard, remember that we are all in Pet Semetary here!
Who cares about spelling!
Andy
I noticed this in the grocery store the other day. They had a sign
advertising "Macintosh" apples for sale. I just couldn't seem to find a
place to plug in my keyboard. ;-)
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> > Zijn er ook Nederlandstalige King-fans around?
> > --
> Masjel!
>
> Peter de Jonge
Hi Peter
Ek is nie Nederlands nie, maar ek kan Afrikaans praat en dus ook 'n
bietjie Nederlands lees en praat. Ek is definitief 'n Stephen King fan.
Dean
Nah. I still hate "loose" more, probably because it seems to have
crept up in the last ten years. I think people have always put
apostrophes in the wrong places, but "loose" is new. The trouble is
I always misparse it first time, so reading games magazines can be a
right pain - they're always talking about what happens when you
loose a life. Grrr.
> It's the worst one. Its and it's. Drives me totally batshit that
> one.
And of course, the book makes it even harder. What do you put about
It's morals, or Its teeth. Both look wrong to me. I think this was
King's secret reason for writing IT in the first place - solely to
confuse people.
I'm black-and-blue
And I love you, too <g>
Scrib
Hey diddle diddle
Is that a riddle?
Can Scribbler scribble?
Or is his name more feeb(b)le?
Jon R.
-introducing modernism to rhyming verse-
Anuther comon errer in a lot of emails is the speling of
"definitive". I offen see "difinative" or "defenetive" and so on.
SS
Hallo, ik ben ook een Stephen King fan, en ik ben heel blij om te zien dat
er zoveel Nederlandse S.K. fans zijn. Waar komen jullie vandaan?
SS
EK> In article <57i7vj$p...@news.nyu.edu>, ss...@is4.nyu.edu (Srinath
EK> Sridevan) wrote:
> Hallo, ik ben ook een Stephen King fan, en ik ben heel blij om te zien dat
> er zoveel Nederlandse S.K. fans zijn. Waar komen jullie vandaan?
>
> SS
EK> Ik ben ook een SK fan, en kom uit omgeving Alkmaar. Ik studeer echter
EK> (en mail deze mailtjes) in Utrecht.
EK> Ed
Okee, dit kan ik natuurlijk niet voorbij laten gaan. Hoi, ik ben ook
een Nederlandse SK-fan en ik woon momenteel in Groningen. Ik ben bezig
om weer wat af te zakken naar het westen, maar woningen liggen er niet
voor het oprapen...
But I think we'd better post in English, since that's the language currently
used in this NG.
Marjon Wiertz ____/;
(Marjon...@iwg.nl) \o.O ' meow
=(___)=
U
> Hallo, ik ben ook een Stephen King fan, en ik ben heel blij om te zien dat
> er zoveel Nederlandse S.K. fans zijn. Waar komen jullie vandaan?
>
> SS
Ik ben ook een SK fan, en kom uit omgeving Alkmaar. Ik studeer echter (en
mail deze mailtjes) in Utrecht.
Ed
> > Peter de Jonge wrote:
> > Zijn er ook Nederlandstalige King-fans around?
> > Masjel!
>
> Hallo, ik ben ook een Stephen King fan, en ik ben heel blij om te zien
> dat
> er zoveel Nederlandse S.K. fans zijn. Waar komen jullie vandaan?
>
Naja, veel???????
maar goed, ik kom uit Den haag.
Ik heb 3 reacties gezien op dit bericht,
1 van Manfred, (ook Den haag)
1 van jou
1 van Dean uit Zuid-Afrika
PS: SS, jij hebt ook niet een echt oer-hollandse naam. :)
Mazzel!
Peter de Jonge
>Aan 27-11-96 21:23, in bericht <57i7vj$p...@news.nyu.edu>, Srinath Sridevan
><ss...@is4.nyu.edu> schreef:
>maar goed, ik kom uit Den haag.
>Ik heb 3 reacties gezien op dit bericht,
>1 van Manfred, (ook Den haag)
>1 van jou
>1 van Dean uit Zuid-Afrika
Heren, een ietsiepietsie on topic blijven graag. Dit is geen babbelbox,
bovendien behoort deze newsgroup tot de "wereldwijde" distributie en kan
het op sommigen wat storend overkomen dat we in het Nederlands bezig zijn.
Hebben jullie overigens King's tweede post nog gezien, of hebben jullie die
net gemist? Zo ja, kijk dan even de "Gentle Readers" thread in, kun je
lachen.
>PS: SS, jij hebt ook niet een echt oer-hollandse naam. :)
Ik ook niet echt hoor, maar dat is om de FBI te verwarren.
>Peter de Jonge
Chuckie chuckie chuckieeeeee!
Angelo
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"If you expect to get the booklet IN ADDITION to the light, all I can say is
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