Its true...
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
bob young
Michael Christ wrote:
> God has been replaced by the Bible.
Not quite - all of the gods have been replaced by common
sense
Randy ®
Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
> God has been replaced by the Bible.
Which "God"? The one you know about from the Bible, or the one
men like you think you are free to invent if you can deter people
from the Bible? Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word
of God (Rom. 10:17).
--
Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him
from the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and
gives you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone,
not your merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess.
1:8-9)? This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the
glory (Eph. 2:8-9).
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"Randy �" <pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11/18/09, at 4:05:57AM,
> Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
>
>> God has been replaced by the Bible.
>
>
> Which "God"? The one you know about from the Bible, or the one men like
> you think you are free to invent if you can deter people from the Bible?
> Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God (Rom. 10:17).
There is no word of God, Randy. There are words of men *about* what they
conceive God to be, that's all.
Randy ®
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 7:00 am, Randy �<pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 11/18/09, at 8:57:26AM,
>> In My Fathers House<hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> You thus confirm you're the one on the attack against the Bible
>>>>> and God of the Bible.
>>> Randy(R) what the Bible says is not an attack on the Bible.
>>
>> Liar. What _you_ say the Bible says _is_ an attack on the Bible.
>
> Even when I show you that the Bible says what I say it says? Want to
> try again Mr. Bankrupt?
That you are apparently delusional enough to think people will
listen to you claiming God would be evil if the Bible were His
word, then not conclude you are a self-contradicting liar when
you deny doing that and feign to believe in the God of the Bible,
is puke-worthy.
Like-wise, that you are apparently delusional and arrogant enough
a liar to say "if" there is a God, or "God (if any)", claim you
don't "know" and want proof there is a God, then turn around and
claim you believe in God, are a christian, etc., is again a
puke-worthy lie.
>> The Bible is not the evil you make it out to be.
>
> I've seen it with my own eyes.
The moron claims this, then claims he is not attacking or trying
to undermine the Bible, and that he is believing in the God and
Christ that Bible proclaims. Self-evident, self-contradicting lies.
>> But by
>> claiming God would have to be evil for the Bible to be His word,
>> you prove you are not believing in the God of the Bible, but are
>> attacking and trying to destroy faith in that God.
>
> This is a classic non sequencer fallacy.Conclusions drawn from
> fallacies are false.
See what I mean?
>Learn how to think.
Appealing to pride of intellect, and being arrogant about your
own abject stupidity and self-contradicting lies, only convinces
me you are an arrogant, self-deluded, self-contradicting,
puke-worthy liar.
Michael Christ
>> God has been replaced by the Bible.
Randy inquired:
> Which "God"?
There is only one God, Randy.
Randy wrote:
> The one you know about from the Bible, or the one
> men like you think you are free to invent if you can deter people
> from the Bible? Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word
> of God (Rom. 10:17).
All the theology, none of the Christ likeness.
Michael Christ
pyotr filipivich
or about Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:04:19 GMT did write/type or cause to
appear in alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>God has been replaced by the Bible.
Maybe in the "ecclesiastical assemblies" which you attend. But a
very understandable result from a culture where Christianity went from
being The Faith to Yet Another System of Metaphysics. Sort of a
quasi-gnosticism.
But still hasn't happened in The Church.
tschus
pyotr
-
pyotr filipivich
Monotheism, someone has said, offers two simple axioms:
1) There is a God.
2) It's not you.
Michael Christ
"pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:la19g5henrkrqimcs...@4ax.com...
> Let the Record show that "Michael Christ" <Jesus...@Father.com> on
> or about Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:04:19 GMT did write/type or cause to
> appear in alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>>God has been replaced by the Bible.
>
> Maybe in the "ecclesiastical assemblies" which you attend. But a
> very understandable result from a culture where Christianity went from
> being The Faith to Yet Another System of Metaphysics. Sort of a
> quasi-gnosticism.
>
> But still hasn't happened in The Church.
>
>
> tschus
> pyotr
Well nothing is ever going to go wrong with The Church because she is
without spot or wrinkle, except in religious circles where she is supposedly
and conveniently always sinning.
For your information the scripture has always replaced God in religion for
religion sake doctrine.
Scripture is just a guide. Once a man walks in faith, the schoolmaster/ the
principles of the doctrine of Christ are no longer needed.
The just live by faith in every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.
Apparently, also according to religious circles, God does not speak anymore
because the Bible says so.
Michael Christ
Mark Earnest
"Michael Christ" <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote in message
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> God has been replaced by the Bible.
The problem is not the Scriptures, but is what people say about
the Scriptures.
Of course we worship the Word. The Word is Jesus, is God.
Wild Bill
"Mark Earnest" <gmea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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There is no word of God. There are words of many men about what they
conceive God to be, that's all.
g
>
>
Mark Earnest
"Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
news:he2f5q$l1h$1...@news.parasun.com...
Just because men conceive God and what he says does not in any way lessen
the fact that they are hearing his word.
Michael Christ
Mark wrote:
> The problem is not the Scriptures, but is what people say about
> the Scriptures.
Scripture is magnificent indeed as the Spirit of God gives understanding.
Of course God has not been replaced by the Bible. Really the post is about
worshipping the toys and not the Toymaker. Personally, if you don't have
the Toymaker (the life of the toys), the toys are redundant.
Mark wrote:
> Of course we worship the Word. The Word is Jesus, is God.
Indeed.
The Lord emphasized this in me recently, how men worship the advantage
(e.g.. the power of truth, the control, the acclaim it brings, and so on) of
the scriptures rather than the Spirit of them; that is, Himself.
And it is happening more and more...God, it seems, is not as 'entertaining'
and as 'accommodating' as we can make Him.
Michael Christ
gabriel
<Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
: God has been replaced by the Bible.
The Bible is God's Word. So what God wants us to know and
commands us to do comes from His Word, the Bible:
John 10:34-35 KJV
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said,
Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and
the scripture cannot be broken;
2 Peter 1:21 KJV
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but
holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
John 14:23-26 KJV
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will
keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto
him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word
which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with
you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father
will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring
all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
And unfortunately, from day one satan has been attacking God's
Word, making people wonder "Did God REALLY say.. ?"
Genesis 3:1-5 KJV
1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field
which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, "Yea,
hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?"
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit
of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the
garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye
touch it, lest ye die."
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, "Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your
eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and
evil."
One of Satan's favorite attacks: "Can God's Word really be
trusted?"
There have always been false teachers that have tried to
discredit God's Word
Matthew 7:15-20 KJV
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's
clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of
thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a
corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a
corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down,
and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
But we know them by their fruits.
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:58:22 GMT, "Michael Christ"
<Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
: Heard this before but maybe you haven't...
:
: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
:
: A man and his ever-nagging wife went on vacation to Jerusalem. While they
: were there, the wife passed away.
:
: The undertaker told the husband, "You can have her shipped home for $5000,
: or you can bury her here, in the Holy Land, for $150."
:
: The man thought about it and told him he would just have her shipped home.
:
: The undertaker asked, "Why would you spend $5000 to ship your wife home,
: when it would be wonderful to be buried here and you would spend only $150?"
:
: The man replied, "A long time ago a man died here, was buried here, and
: three days later he rose from the dead. I just can't take that chance."
:
:
:
: :-).
:
: Michael Christ
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:03:40 GMT, "Michael Christ"
<Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
: [..]
: Holiness, righteousness and purity, without which a man will never be with
: God...has it registered yet? Or, are you just going to ignore it like an
: idiot while glorying in your awesome theological correctness?
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:16:00 GMT, "Michael Christ"
<Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
:
: You must think the Lord is a complete blind dickhead.
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:26:35 GMT, "Michael Christ"
<Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
: ..
: You walk as though God is a blind complete dickhead.
:
:
:
:
:
: Michael Christ
Fred Thomas
Michael Christ
> : God has been replaced by the Bible.
Gabriel wrote:
> The Bible is God's Word.
The Lord Jesus is God's Word...and He is a Person, not ink.
The Bible is words inspired by God and written down by His servants.
Joh 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which,
if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself
could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
Why do you suppose that is? Do you think God is bigger than your capacity
to own Him with your scholarly religious pursuits?
Where is your walk of faith?
Walk in the Spirit, and worship Him in Spirit and in Truth as the Bible
describes. Bible-quoting in a spirit of condemnation is not the way, Gabs.
Michael Christ
Randy ®
Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
> The Lord Jesus is God's Word...and He is a Person, not ink.
It does not follow that one who believes the Bible when it says
faith in Jesus Christ comes by hearing, and hearing by the
proclaimed word of God, is therefore worshiping the ink, instead
of the Christ those words give him faith in (Psalm 119). Your
ongoing argument is therefore an act of stupidity and
misrepresentation, which apparently seeks to divert people from
the source of faith in Christ.
gabriel
<Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
: Jesus...@Father.com> Michael Christ wrote:
: > : God has been replaced by the Bible.
:
: Gabriel wrote:
: > The Bible is God's Word.
:
: The Lord Jesus is God's Word...and He is a Person, not ink.
And Jesus Christ also quoted the scriptures; He said "as it is
written" time and time again.
Matthew 4:4 KJV
4 But he (Jesus) answered and said, It is written, Man shall not
live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the
mouth of God.
Matthew 4:7 KJV
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt
the Lord thy God.
Matthew 4:10 KJV
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is
written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt
thou serve.
In the Old Testament "Thus saith the LORD.." time and time again.
Using your logic, Jesus Christ replaced God with the scriptures
as well, which of course only shows how faulty that logic is.
The scriptures are the words of God; the words of Jesus Christ.
For anyone to claim otherwise is to be a heretic and do what
satan does - cause others to doubt God's Word, teaching such
disobedience to God by such things as "Did God really say .. ?"
Genesis 3:1-5 KJV
1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field
which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea,
hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit
of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the
garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye
touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your
eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and
evil.
:
: The Bible is words inspired by God and written down by His servants.
:
: Joh 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which,
: if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself
: could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
:
: Why do you suppose that is? Do you think God is bigger than your capacity
: to own Him with your scholarly religious pursuits?
We can never know everything about God.
Romans 11:33-36 KJV
33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of
God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past
finding out!
34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his
counsellor?
35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed
unto him again?
36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to
whom be glory for ever. Amen.
Just because not everything Jesus did was written down does not
mean we dismiss what *was* written down and teach others to
dismiss God's Word as well.
:
: Where is your walk of faith?
Unfortunately, when a person starts teaching that God's Word can
be dismissed and ignored, they are no longer walking in the truth
of faith in God and His Son, Jesus Christ. Where is your walk of
faith that God's Word can be trusted in spite of us not knowing
everything?
:
: Walk in the Spirit, and worship Him in Spirit and in Truth as the Bible
: describes. Bible-quoting in a spirit of condemnation is not the way, Gabs.
Actually, we are to quote God's Word for doctrine, reproof,
correction and instruction in righteousness:
2 Timothy 3:13-17 KJV
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse,
deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and
hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures,
which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith
which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is
profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto
all good works.
Unfortunately, when one gets away from God's Word, it becomes
obvious one would not be following God. For example, such a
person might start mocking the resurrection of Christ, and
speaking in lewd, vulgar ways:
Even Jesus Christ testified to the authority of scriptures, and
it never being dissolved:
John 10:34-35 KJV
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said,
Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and
the scripture cannot be broken;
Any one of us that teaches contrary to this, that God's Word
cannot be trusted will have to answer to God on that account.
Galatians 1:6-9 KJV
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and
would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other
gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let
him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any
other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be
accursed.
:
:
:
:
:
: Michael Christ
Michael Christ
>> The Lord Jesus is God's Word...and He is a Person, not ink.
Randy wrote:
> It does not follow that one who believes the Bible when it says faith in
> Jesus Christ comes by hearing, and hearing by the proclaimed word of God,
> is therefore worshiping the ink, instead of the Christ those words give
> him faith in (Psalm 119). Your ongoing argument is therefore an act of
> stupidity and misrepresentation, which apparently seeks to divert people
> from the source of faith in Christ.
It is all about faith in Christ as you hear from me constantly. You however
worship theology.
You are an unbeliever, Randy, just like you discovered Chuck is.
Why?
Because you don't know how to walk in faith.
The Lord Jesus is God's Word...and He is a Person, not ink - it is so
simple.
He, not 'it', is the source.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
>The Bible is God's Word.
Michael Christ:
>The Lord Jesus is God's Word...and He is a Person, not ink.
Gabriel wrote:
> And Jesus Christ also quoted the scriptures; He said "as it is
> written" time and time again.
Well walk in what is written Gabs, walk in the talk. That is the whole
point. Or do you have to 'study' it for another millenum?
Gabriel wrote:
>Matthew 4:4 KJV
> 4 But he (Jesus) answered and said, It is written, Man shall not
> live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the
> mouth of God.
Its no good pointing the finger of condemnation at me sinner, get on with
your walk of faith. Find out what the Lord wants you to do in your daily
life and do it.
Then you will be a living bible and not a dead one.
Michael Christ
Randy ®
Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
> Because you don't know how to walk in faith.
Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God (Romans
10:17). You're the one diverting people from the source of faith
in Christ, which is God's word, which is the Bible.
Randy ®
Michael Christ
>> The Lord Jesus is God's Word...and He is a Person, not ink.
Randy wrote:
> It does not follow that one who believes the Bible when it says faith in
> Jesus Christ comes by hearing, and hearing by the proclaimed word of God,
> is therefore worshiping the ink, instead of the Christ those words give
> him faith in (Psalm 119). Your ongoing argument is therefore an act of
> stupidity and misrepresentation, which apparently seeks to divert people
> from the source of faith in Christ.
It is all about faith in Christ as you hear from me constantly. You however
worship theology.
You are an unbeliever, Randy, just like you discovered Chuck is.
Why?
Because you don't know how to walk in faith.
The Lord Jesus is God's Word...and He is a Person, not ink - it is so
simple.
He, not 'it', is the source.
Randy wrote:
> Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God (Romans 10:17).
Correct!
So kneel before Him; you will have to anyway, whether it be in mercy or in
the wrath of God.
Michael Christ
Fred Thomas
"gabriel" <gabriel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:55:27 GMT, "Michael Christ"
> <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
>
> : Jesus...@Father.com> Michael Christ wrote:
> : > : God has been replaced by the Bible.
> :
> : Gabriel wrote:
> : > The Bible is God's Word.
> :
> : The Lord Jesus is God's Word...and He is a Person, not ink.
>
> And Jesus Christ also quoted the scriptures; He said "as it is
> written" time and time again.
>
You mean misquoted.
Randy ®
Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
> Randy wrote:
>> Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God (Romans 10:17).
>
> Correct!
>
> So kneel before Him; you will have to anyway, whether it be in mercy or
> in the wrath of God.
You're an idiot, arguing against your own false dichotomy. It
does not follow that someone who believes the Bible when it says
faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God (Romans
10:17), and that God uses the "words" the Apostles spoke to
reveal the mind of Christ to believers (1 Cor. 2), that such a
person must therefore not be trusting in or worshiping the Christ
that Bible gave Him faith in.
Not to mention the fact that because you claim to be without sin,
we know the truth does not abide in you (1 John 1:8-9).
Ike E 11/16/09
[snip]
> Unfortunately, when a person starts teaching that God's Word can
> be dismissed and ignored, they are no longer walking in the truth
> of faith in God and His Son, Jesus Christ. Where is your walk of
> faith that God's Word can be trusted in spite of us not knowing
> everything?
Ah, but what is "God's Word" and what is editorial.
You cite many times where Jesus said "it is written," but we have at least
one instance--in regards to Daniel--where He was careful to say "as spoken
by Daniel the prophet," not "as written."
Ezekiel references Daniel the prophet as a living prophet, however the book
of Daniel was compiled from Daniel's prophecies by a much later editor, who
created settings for those prophecies that are historically off the mark,
and also provided interpretations of Daniel's prophecies based on his own
observations of how they were playing out in the immediate sense--which
wasn't entirely wrong, but wasn't entirely right, either--when God generally
doesn't GIVE interpretations of prophecies with His prophecies--it would
lock them into only one meaning, and prophecies are multiplistic (which, if
they are interpreted singularly, would mean that Jesus couldn't be the
Messiah).
Likewise, most of everything between Acts and Revelation are also editorial.
Then again, even the Gospel's themselves contain editorial passages, some of
which shouldn't be there.
Unfortunately, the Bible--especially the New Testament--doesn't break down
into "all right" or "all wrong," as the camps at both extremes would have us
believe.
[snip]
Ike
Ike E 11/16/09
[snippeth]
> You're an idiot, arguing against your own false dichotomy. It does not
> follow that someone who believes the Bible when it says faith comes by
> hearing and hearing by the word of God (Romans 10:17), and that God uses
> the "words" the Apostles spoke to reveal the mind of Christ to believers
> (1 Cor. 2), that such a person must therefore not be trusting in or
> worshiping the Christ that Bible gave Him faith in.
Note the pedantic thinking of the "all or nothing" crowd which actually
drives people AWAY from Christianity. Anyone with a lick of sense can see
that there are obvious problems with the Bible, especially sections of the
New Testament.
Unfortunately, the weak minded and weak in Spirit can't handle a flawed
Bible AND have faith, and have to defend "inerrancy" to the point of
absurdity, when it is obviously wrong to anyone who has even superficially
read the Bible. Meanwhile, those who are strong in the faith can handle the
problems through careful study and consideration, and STILL keep the faith.
(Even better, as a matter of fact, because their faith involves no
self-deceptions.)
Ike
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
It doesn't seem to bother you.
Walk in the light (1John1:7), and you won't have all the dichotomies and
silly accusations and lack of understanding and sinful indulgence and the
obsession with trying to control God through the Bible in faithlessness.
Otherwise continue walking in the dark in the constant and incessant and
unprofitable vain disputings with others about trying to make yourself
righteous.
In any event, you will come to heel, there is nothing surer. You will kneel
before Jesus, not your self styled Bible theology, but before Him; whether
it be in mercy or in the wrath of God.
Don't tell me that what you are and what you do is the true demonstration of
Christianity, Randy, even you are not that deluded.
Michael Christ
PS Is not eternal life through faith in the finished work alone...
> Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him
> from the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and
> gives you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone,
> not your merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess.
> 1:8-9)? This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the
> glory (Eph. 2:8-9).
...it is faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, a Person. He is the glory, not
anything else.
He is not shoved to the side in anything.
Fred Thomas
"Ike E 11/16/09" <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Randy �" <pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:YqydnZe6cfpQdJjW...@giganews.com...
>
> [snippeth]
>
>> You're an idiot, arguing against your own false dichotomy. It does not
>> follow that someone who believes the Bible when it says faith comes by
>> hearing and hearing by the word of God (Romans 10:17), and that God uses the
>> "words" the Apostles spoke to reveal the mind of Christ to believers (1 Cor.
>> 2), that such a person must therefore not be trusting in or worshiping the
>> Christ that Bible gave Him faith in.
>
> Note the pedantic thinking of the "all or nothing" crowd which actually drives
> people AWAY from Christianity. Anyone with a lick of sense can see that there
> are obvious problems with the Bible, especially sections of the New Testament.
>
Well, who would have figured Ike would say something with a semblance of
intelligence.
> Unfortunately, the weak minded and weak in Spirit can't handle a flawed Bible
> AND have faith,
There's where the flaws come in. Faith is the key to staying with the myth, if a
person would actually study the bible and compare it to older religious texts
that person would find what's in the bible........shall we say.......is old
rehashed myths from other civilizations.If that same person has determined that
the old Greek, Egyptian, Persian religious beliefs are myths, and the same
person sees the sameness of the myths of the Christian bible that person would
have to come to the same conclusion; it's just a myth story book.
> and have to defend "inerrancy" to the point of absurdity, when it is obviously
> wrong to anyone who has even superficially read the Bible. Meanwhile, those
> who are strong in the faith can handle the problems through careful study and
> consideration, and STILL keep the faith. (Even better, as a matter of fact,
> because their faith involves no self-deceptions.)
>
Faith=lazy. Faith IS self-deceptive.A person of faith merely memorizes some of
the passages that person of faith "feels comfortable" with, there is no real
study. A person of faith can be compared to a high school kid using cliff notes
in stead of reading the book. There is no depth.
> Ike
>
Ike E 11/16/09
"Fred Thomas" <fr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Then the other extreme showed up, as usual.
Ike
Fred Thomas
servant? How about looking up earth? It's amazing, how the myths evolve due to
people like you.
Randy ®
Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
> The only thing you can advise anyone is to be a sinner like yourself,
> Randy.
> It doesn't seem to bother you.
Another of your lies and stupid false dichotomies. It does not
follow that if you admit you still sin, you are therefore
promoting sin, or not seeking to avoid sin. Romans 6 shows that
through faith in our death with Christ to sin, and resurrection
with Him to newness of life, and by the power of the indwelling
Holy Spirit, a believer has the God-given ability to yield His
members as instruments of righteousness to God.
We have the God-given capacity to avoid sin (Romans 6), and no
one who has been saved keeps on habitually doing the same sin (1
John 3). However, our old nature is not eradicated until glory
(Romans 8), and we still find ourselves having sin (Romans 7).
Anyone who claims otherwise is a deceiver, and the truth is not
in him (1 John 1:8-9).
--
Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him
from the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and
gives you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone,
not your merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess.
1:8-9)? This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the
glory (Eph. 2:8-9).
Michael Christ
It doesn't seem to bother you.
Walk in the light (1John1:7), and you won't have all the dichotomies and
silly accusations and lack of understanding and sinful indulgence and the
obsession with trying to control God through the Bible in faithlessness.
Otherwise continue walking in the dark in the constant and incessant and
unprofitable vain disputings with others about trying to make yourself
righteous.
In any event, you will come to heel, there is nothing surer. You will kneel
before Jesus, not your self styled Bible theology, but before Him; whether
it be in mercy or in the wrath of God.
Don't tell me that what you are and what you do is the true demonstration of
Christianity, Randy, even you are not that deluded.
Michael Christ
PS Is not eternal life through faith in the finished work alone...
> Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him
> from the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and
> gives you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone,
> not your merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess.
> 1:8-9)? This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the
> glory (Eph. 2:8-9).
...it is faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, a Person. He is the glory, not
Wild Bill
"Michael Christ" <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote in message
What a load of male bovine excretia!
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
Wild Bill
It breaks down to 80% myth & legend and 20% historical
>
>
Wild Bill
Well put, Ike! I tried the route of careful study and consideration through
5 years of in-depth research. My findings caused me to reject Christianity
altogether.
>
> Ike
>
Michael Christ
interpreting scripture according to that convenience. You interpret
according to darkness and not the light.
There is no such being as a present tense sinner non-practicing. More to
the point you are saying Jesus is like that.
No one is like that in Christ!
Wake up!
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
>
> "Ike E 11/16/09" <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:he5a2e$qmn$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>
>> [snippeth]
>>
>>> You're an idiot, arguing against your own false dichotomy. It does not
>>> follow that someone who believes the Bible when it says faith comes by
>>> hearing and hearing by the word of God (Romans 10:17), and that God uses
>>> the "words" the Apostles spoke to reveal the mind of Christ to believers
>>> (1 Cor. 2), that such a person must therefore not be trusting in or
>>> worshiping the Christ that Bible gave Him faith in.
>>
>> Note the pedantic thinking of the "all or nothing" crowd which actually
>> drives people AWAY from Christianity. Anyone with a lick of sense can see
>> that there are obvious problems with the Bible, especially sections of
>> the New Testament.
>>
>> Unfortunately, the weak minded and weak in Spirit can't handle a flawed
>> Bible AND have faith, and have to defend "inerrancy" to the point of
>> absurdity, when it is obviously wrong to anyone who has even
>> superficially read the Bible. Meanwhile, those who are strong in the
>> faith can handle the problems through careful study and consideration,
>> and STILL keep the faith. (Even better, as a matter of fact, because
>> their faith involves no self-deceptions.)
Wild 'in-depth' Bill wrote:
> Well put, Ike! I tried the route of careful study and consideration
> through 5 years of in-depth research. My findings caused me to reject
> Christianity altogether.
What a coincidence so does Ike!
:-).
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Go and munch on some oats Wild Bill.
Michael Christ
Ike E 11/16/09
"You say," but who the hell are you?
Ike
Fred Thomas
Ike E 11/16/09
Ooh, was that a WHOLE five years?
And tell me: How can someone who was clueless as to what the Bible said to
begin with become unclueless by themselves?
Acts 8:27b-31
...and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under
Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and
had come to Jerusalem for to worship, was returning, and sitting in his
chariot read Esaias the prophet.
Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this
chariot.
And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias,
and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me?
Seems to me you must be a pretty lousy teacher if you can't teach yourself.
Ike
Fred Thomas
It's called using intelligence. Want to find out what's inside? Read it. Looks
like he went beyond the myth book as well and studied where the myths contained
inside came from. Some one with faith=lazy would never do.
Wild Bill
Yup, and still ongoing because I'm still learning. When I stop learning it
will be time to check out!
>
> And tell me: How can someone who was clueless as to what the Bible said to
> begin with become unclueless by themselves?
You assume too much, Ike. You know when you do that you make an ass out of u
and me. I figured you to be smarter than that! I was a bible thumping
Christian for 23 years before I began to question my cherished beliefs. I
was far from clueless.
>
> Acts 8:27b-31
>
> ...and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under
> Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure,
> and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, was returning, and sitting in
> his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
> Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this
> chariot.
> And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias,
> and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
> And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me?
>
> Seems to me you must be a pretty lousy teacher if you can't teach
> yourself.
You're assuming again, Ike. Moreover, when you point a finger at someone,
how many are pointing back at you?
>
> Ike
>
Wild Bill
C'mon Ike, admit it that you know exactly who I am and it scares the living
hell out of you! However, if you get out of the way of your own ego, you
should do just fine.
>
> Ike
>
Michael Christ
>
> "Ike E 11/16/09" <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:he8riu$rds$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
>> news:he70cc$dir$1...@news.parasun.com...
>>>
>>> "Ike E 11/16/09" <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:he5a2e$qmn$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>
Wild Bill wrote:
> You're assuming again, Ike. Moreover, when you point a finger at someone,
> how many are pointing back at you?
3, because Ike always has 1 finger stuck up his nose.
:-).
I did say nose.
Michael Christ
pyotr filipivich
or about Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:24:25 GMT did write/type or cause to
appear in alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
>>> God has been replaced by the Bible.
>
>
>> Which "God"?
>
>There is only one God, Randy.
This is true.
So which True God do you believe in, or assume that he doesn't?
The fact remains, that the records of God's people in the
scriptures do seem to present different aspects of The One True God.
>
>
>Randy wrote:
>> The one you know about from the Bible, or the one
>> men like you think you are free to invent if you can deter people
>> from the Bible? Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word
>> of God (Rom. 10:17).
>
>All the theology, none of the Christ likeness.
>
>
-
pyotr filipivich
Monotheism, someone has said, offers two simple axioms:
1) There is a God.
2) It's not you.
Ike E 11/16/09
LOL
Seriously?
You don't seem to get sarcasm. "Who the hell are you" = "you are an
insignificant flea."
There is nothing at all scary about a clueless person, that's for sure.
Ike
Ike E 11/16/09
You have no idea how much your reality is "myth" and the "myths" of the
Bible are real.
But that's the problem with the beast trying to understand what lies beyond
him--the only way the beast could know what is beyond him is if that which
is beyond him comes to the beast and explains what is beyond him.
Enter Jesus.
And that's why Christianity is the ONLY religion that makes sense. In every
other religion of men, men try to build bridges to God. In Christianity, God
built the bridge to us, starting at our end, via Jesus Christ.
Ike
Michael Christ
"pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:2mdhg5hjt4oa2kgsq...@4ax.com...
Peter, despite all the misrepresentation of men, the Lord Jesus Christ is
the only One you can believe. He is the manifestation of God; God revealed.
He's a real nice fella, the best. Its the love that gets ya.
Good luck. :-).
Michael Christ
Fred Thomas
easly traced.
> But that's the problem with the beast trying to understand what lies beyond
> him--the only way the beast could know what is beyond him is if that which is
> beyond him comes to the beast and explains what is beyond him.
>
What beast?
> Enter Jesus.
>
That myth has been around from at least 700 B.C.E.
> And that's why Christianity is the ONLY religion that makes sense. In every
> other religion of men, men try to build bridges to God. In Christianity, God
> built the bridge to us, starting at our end, via Jesus Christ.
>
Really? Want to show some examples?
> Ike
>
Ike E 11/16/09
Hey, moron: In the GREEK of the New Testament, there is only ONE WORD
(except where the translators ignorantly translated "pleece," which means
"heir," as "servant").
SLAVE and SERVANT are the SAME THING in the context of the New Testament.
<chuckle>
Ike
Ike E 11/16/09
Oh, really?
Jesus CONDEMNED your so-called "intelligence."
Mr 8:13-21
And [Jesus] left [the Pharisees], and entering into the ship again
departed to the other side.
Now the disciples had forgotten to take bread, neither had they in the
ship with them more than one loaf. And he charged them, saying, Take heed,
beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.
And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have no
bread.
And when Jesus knew it, he saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye
have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart
yet hardened? Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do
ye not remember?
When I brake the five loaves among five thousand, how many baskets full
of fragments took ye up?
They say unto him, Twelve.
And when the seven among four thousand, how many baskets full of
fragments took ye up?
And they said, Seven.
And he said unto them, How is it that ye do not understand?
Fewer resources + more people to feed = more leftovers.
More resources + fewer people to feed = fewer leftovers.
What was the leaven of Herod and the Pharisees?
SELF-DETERMINED LOGIC.
So, if Jesus condemned logic (because it can't account for what it cannot
see), how is it that you arrived at UNDERSTANDING THE SEEMINGLY ILLOGICAL by
"INTELLIGENCE?"
[snip the rest of the ignorant dawdle]
Ike
Ike E 11/16/09
Apparently not.
> When I stop learning it will be time to check out!
And then you'll discover how errant your "intelligence" was.
>> And tell me: How can someone who was clueless as to what the Bible said
>> to begin with become unclueless by themselves?
>
> You assume too much, Ike.
I assume just right, thank you.
> You know when you do that you make an ass out of u and me.
So far, the only "ass" in this discussion is you.
> I figured you to be smarter than that!
I am.
> I was a bible thumping Christian for 23 years before I began to question
> my cherished beliefs. I was far from clueless.
Apparently not.
I've heard many an ignorant sot "thump the Bible," having grown up in the
same environment.
In fact, I'll go so far as to say that I've had to grow faith DESPITE them.
Still doesn't change the fact that the Word is true.
(Note I say "Word," not "Bible.")
>> Acts 8:27b-31
>>
>> ...and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under
>> Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure,
>> and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, was returning, and sitting in
>> his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
>> Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this
>> chariot.
>> And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias,
>> and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
>> And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me?
>>
>> Seems to me you must be a pretty lousy teacher if you can't teach
>> yourself.
>
> You're assuming again, Ike. Moreover, when you point a finger at someone,
> how many are pointing back at you?
How so?
I have intelligence AND Spirit...AND I have a teaching license, and have
taught many others many things.
And yet I comprehend how the aspects of the Bible fit together.
I repeat: You must be a pretty lousy teacher if you can't teach yourself.
Ike
Ike E 11/16/09
LOL
"You say," but Jesus was talking about three-dimensional time a couple of
thousand years before anyone else began to fully conceptualize it.
<chuckle>
>> But that's the problem with the beast trying to understand what lies
>> beyond him--the only way the beast could know what is beyond him is if
>> that which is beyond him comes to the beast and explains what is beyond
>> him.
>>
> What beast?
The "beast" who thinks he can mock God and get away with it.
>> Enter Jesus.
>>
> That myth has been around from at least 700 B.C.E.
LOL
>> And that's why Christianity is the ONLY religion that makes sense. In
>> every other religion of men, men try to build bridges to God. In
>> Christianity, God built the bridge to us, starting at our end, via Jesus
>> Christ.
>>
> Really? Want to show some examples?
You can't.
There aren't any.
Oh, wait, let me guess: You're going to cite Mithraist nonsense. Or perhaps
the Zoroastrians? Never mind that they were syncretists, right?
<chuckle>
Ike
Fred Thomas
<really chuckling!!!!!!>
Literial Bible with strong's #
Mathew 20:
26. |3756| not |3779| so |1161| But |2071| it will be |1722| among |5213| you!
|0235| But |1437| whoever |2309| would |1722| among |5213| you |3173| great
|1096| become, |2077| let him be |5216| of you |1249| a servant.
Strong's Ref. # 1249 used 31 times.
Romanized diakonos
Pronounced dee-ak'-on-os
probably from an obsolete diako (to run on errands; compare GSN1377); an
attendant, i.e. (genitive case) a waiter (at table or in other menial duties);
specially, a Christian teacher and pastor (technically, a deacon or deaconess):
KJV--deacon, minister, servant.
There is a big difference between being a waiter working for tips or how ever
they were paid back then and some one who is OWNED by a another person. The fact
is your "word" is made up. There are a lot of words used for "servant" and all
depend on what form of servitude is being described. The words used to describe
"slave" are not the same as the words to describe "servant".
Hmmmm, only one word used, unless it's ignorantly translated "pleece"?????????
LOL!!!
Strong's Number: 5257 used 20 times.
Huperetes
Definition
servant
an underrower, subordinate rower
any one who serves with hands: a servant
in the NT of the officers and attendants of magistrates as -- of the officer who
executes penalties
of the attendants of a king, servants, retinue, the soldiers of a king, of the
attendant of a synagogue
of any one ministering or rendering service
any one who aids another in any work
an assistant
of the preacher of the gospel
Earth=semite!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!
Fred Thomas
Well Jesus was either a made up myth or at best legend, so tell you
what............find a REAL person that can be historically proven to have
existed and quote them.
Stupid, where is the logic in magic? With out a magic wand you whole little
story falls like a tower of cards. Either that or those are some really big ass
loves of bread, however logic then dictates a problem, where would one get a
oven large enough to bake such large loaves of bread? How would anybody carry
such large loaves of bread? Stupid, this is a fairy tale!! It's no different
than Zeus throwing lightening bolts, looking at medusa and turning to
stone.......hmmmmmmm...............Lot's wife turning to pillar of
salt......................interesting.............boy this book is full of
magical events, just like Greek mythology, in fact change the names and
stuff..........hey they are the same stories!!!!
Ike E 11/23/9
Now if you only knew how to use Strong's and read English.
1249. diakonov diakonos dee-ak'-on-os; PROBABLY from an obsolete diakw diako
(to run on errands; compare 1377...
1377. diwkw dioko dee-o'-ko; a prolonged (and causative) form of a primary
verb diw dio (to flee; compare the base of 1169 and 1249); to pursue
(literally or figuratively); by implication, to persecute:- ensue, follow
(after), given to, (suffer) persecute(-ion), press forward.
Hmmmmm.
To pursue, to persecute, press forward.
Doesn't sound like a "job title" to me.
> The fact is your "word" is made up.
Not at all.
It's the DEFINITION that's made up.
<chuckle>
> There are a lot of words used for "servant" and all depend on what form
> of servitude is being described. The words used to describe "slave" are
> not the same as the words to describe "servant".
Now find me the word "Slave" anywhere in the English KJV.
Oh, look: It's not there.
Wonder why that is?
What of the words that ARE used throughout the Gospels?
They're all versions of the SAME ROOT.
Deo, Doulos, dioko, diokanon.
A servant, i.e. a slave.
Now go back and look at what Jesus said...
"Whoever would be great among you, he must be your servant; and however
would be FIRST among you, he must be SLAVE OF ALL."
Not much grey area here: Jesus, being the lowest of ALL slaves, became the
Master of all things by BEING the lowest off all slaves.
> Hmmmm, only one word used, unless it's ignorantly translated
> "pleece"????????? LOL!!!
>
> Strong's Number: 5257 used 20 times.
> Huperetes
> Definition
> servant
> an underrower, subordinate rower
> any one who serves with hands: a servant
> in the NT of the officers and attendants of magistrates as -- of the
> officer who executes penalties
> of the attendants of a king, servants, retinue, the soldiers of a king, of
> the attendant of a synagogue
> of any one ministering or rendering service
> any one who aids another in any work
> an assistant
> of the preacher of the gospel
Now find Hupereretes in any of the Gospels.
> Earth=semite!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!
Ah, the mocking of the foolish.
John saw an angel come down, stand on the shores, and he put one foot on the
"earth" and one foot on the "sea."
Now, what did he say, and what did it mean, oh, insightful one.
Hint:
"Earth" means Semites in general, Israelites in thesis, and "Jews who are
not Jews" in antithesis.
"Sea" means Gentiles in general, Christians in thesis, and antichristians in
antithesis.
Let me know when you have a clue, and can tell me what the angel said, what
passage of scripture it was alluding to, and why...
<This is what happens when morons mock something they don't have a CLUE
about...>
Ike
Fred Thomas
Oh this has got to be good.............site it.
> <chuckle>
>
>>> But that's the problem with the beast trying to understand what lies beyond
>>> him--the only way the beast could know what is beyond him is if that which
>>> is beyond him comes to the beast and explains what is beyond him.
>>>
>> What beast?
>
> The "beast" who thinks he can mock God and get away with it.
>
Really, where is this "beast" mentioned? Is it the "earth" fellow? You know the
"semite"?
>>> Enter Jesus.
>>>
>> That myth has been around from at least 700 B.C.E.
>
> LOL
>
Hmmmmmmmm...............The myth of Dionysus and other similar myths inspired
the birth accounts of Matthew and Luke, hmmmmmmmmm................
>>> And that's why Christianity is the ONLY religion that makes sense. In every
>>> other religion of men, men try to build bridges to God. In Christianity, God
>>> built the bridge to us, starting at our end, via Jesus Christ.
>>>
>> Really? Want to show some examples?
>
> You can't.
>
> There aren't any.
No examples ( evidence )? And you buy this why? Logic?
Intelligence?......................hmmmmmmm.........make statment, with noting
to back up statment.........OHHHHHHH right! Faith thing! Faith=lazy.
>
> Oh, wait, let me guess: You're going to cite Mithraist nonsense. Or perhaps
> the Zoroastrians? Never mind that they were syncretists, right?
>
The fact of the matter is, that is all your myth is, the blending of all those
myths into a new one. Prove it's not. Laughing.
> <chuckle>
>
> Ike
>
Fred Thomas
Ike E 11/23/9
[snip]
>> Oh, wait, let me guess: You're going to cite Mithraist nonsense. Or
>> perhaps the Zoroastrians? Never mind that they were syncretists, right?
>>
>
> The fact of the matter is, that is all your myth is, the blending of all
> those myths into a new one.
LOL
The prophecies concerning Jesus (as they played out at His first advent)
existed LONG before the Mithraists and Zoroastrians tried to syncretize
them.
Nice try, but thanks for playing.
Ike
Ike E 11/23/9
<yawn and snip>
> Stupid...
That you are.
<chuckle and snip>
Ike
Ike E 11/23/9
Not at all: If there is an intelligence beyond the temporal (and there is),
there is no way that the temporal could ever discover that intelligence,
simply by virtue of the fact that the temporal can only observe the
temporal.
Eternity is God's wicked curveball, and the temporal team strikes out every
time.
Ike
Fred Thomas
"Ike E 11/23/9" <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Revelation 18:
13. And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and
oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots,
and slaves, and souls of men.
> Wonder why that is?
>
Yeah, I wonder why the word slave.......oh wait! It is used in the KJV.
> What of the words that ARE used throughout the Gospels?
>
> They're all versions of the SAME ROOT.
>
> Deo, Doulos, dioko, diokanon.
>
> A servant, i.e. a slave.
>
Study language, lots of words have common roots, however, the MEANING of the
word IS different.
> Now go back and look at what Jesus said...
>
Jesus did not say anything, the writers of the myth did, it's their story.
> "Whoever would be great among you, he must be your servant; and however would
> be FIRST among you, he must be SLAVE OF ALL."
>
> Not much grey area here: Jesus, being the lowest of ALL slaves, became the
> Master of all things by BEING the lowest off all slaves.
>
The KJV is servant.........
Strong's Ref. # 1249
Romanized diakonos
Pronounced dee-ak'-on-os
probably from an obsolete diako (to run on errands; compare GSN1377); an
attendant, i.e. (genitive case) a waiter (at table or in other menial duties);
specially, a Christian teacher and pastor (technically, a deacon or deaconess):
KJV--deacon, minister, servant.
Notice the conation? The meaning? There is quite a bit of difference......
Strong's Ref. # 1401
Romanized doulos
Pronounced doo'-los
from GSN1210; a slave (literal or figurative, involuntary or voluntary;
frequently, therefore in a qualified sense of subjection or subserviency):
KJV--bond(-man), servant.
Are you actually able to compare? It does not look like you can.
dee-ak'-on-os:
:an attendant
:a waiter
:teacher and pastor
doo'-los:
:a slave the word is used figuratively or literal, which will depend on the
context of the sentance and paragraph.
Same roots, very different meanings, and that is only an example of two words
with the same root.
>> Hmmmm, only one word used, unless it's ignorantly translated
>> "pleece"????????? LOL!!!
>>
ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!
>> Strong's Number: 5257 used 20 times.
>> Huperetes
>> Definition
>> servant
>> an underrower, subordinate rower
>> any one who serves with hands: a servant
>> in the NT of the officers and attendants of magistrates as -- of the officer
>> who executes penalties
>> of the attendants of a king, servants, retinue, the soldiers of a king, of
>> the attendant of a synagogue
>> of any one ministering or rendering service
>> any one who aids another in any work
>> an assistant
>> of the preacher of the gospel
>
> Now find Hupereretes in any of the Gospels.
>
>> Earth=semite!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Ah, the mocking of the foolish.
>
> John saw an angel come down, stand on the shores, and he put one foot on the
> "earth" and one foot on the "sea."
>
Try quoting correctly......Still no matter;
Strong's Ref. # 1093
Romanized ge
Pronounced ghay
contracted from a primary word; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part
or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application):
KJV--country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.
Which does not mean "semite"
Hmmmmmm.........maybe your confusing.........."earthquake"
Strong's Ref. # 4578
Romanized seismos
Pronounced sice-mos'
from GSN4579; a commotion, i.e. (of the air) a gale, (of the ground) an
earthquake:
KJV--earthquake, tempest.
That "seismos" IS simular to "semite" ROTFL!!!!!!!
> Now, what did he say, and what did it mean, oh, insightful one.
>
> Hint:
>
> "Earth" means Semites in general, Israelites in thesis, and "Jews who are not
> Jews" in antithesis.
>
ROTFL!!!!!!!
Strong's Ref. # 1093
Romanized ge
Pronounced ghay
contracted from a primary word; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part
or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application):
KJV--country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.
> "Sea" means Gentiles in general, Christians in thesis, and antichristians in
> antithesis.
>
Strong's Ref. # 2281
Romanized thalassa
Pronounced thal'-as-sah
probably prolonged from GSN0251; the sea (genitive case or specially):
KJV--sea.
> Let me know when you have a clue, and can tell me what the angel said, what
> passage of scripture it was alluding to, and why...
>
Ohhhhhhhh, and "fundymentilist" bent on "proophsay"!!!!!!!!!ROTFL!!!!!!!!!
Fred Thomas
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Fred Thomas
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Revelation 18:
13. And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and
oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots,
and slaves, and souls of men.
> Wonder why that is?
>
Yeah, I wonder why the word slave.......oh wait! It is used in the KJV.
> What of the words that ARE used throughout the Gospels?
>
> They're all versions of the SAME ROOT.
>
> Deo, Doulos, dioko, diokanon.
>
> A servant, i.e. a slave.
>
Study language, lots of words have common roots, however, the MEANING of the
word IS different.
> Now go back and look at what Jesus said...
>
Jesus did not say anything, the writers of the myth did, it's their story.
> "Whoever would be great among you, he must be your servant; and however would
> be FIRST among you, he must be SLAVE OF ALL."
>
> Not much grey area here: Jesus, being the lowest of ALL slaves, became the
> Master of all things by BEING the lowest off all slaves.
>
The KJV is servant.........
Strong's Ref. # 1249
Romanized diakonos
Pronounced dee-ak'-on-os
probably from an obsolete diako (to run on errands; compare GSN1377); an
attendant, i.e. (genitive case) a waiter (at table or in other menial duties);
specially, a Christian teacher and pastor (technically, a deacon or deaconess):
KJV--deacon, minister, servant.
Notice the conation? The meaning? There is quite a bit of difference......
Strong's Ref. # 1401
Romanized doulos
Pronounced doo'-los
from GSN1210; a slave (literal or figurative, involuntary or voluntary;
frequently, therefore in a qualified sense of subjection or subserviency):
KJV--bond(-man), servant.
Are you actually able to compare? It does not look like you can.
dee-ak'-on-os:
:an attendant
:a waiter
:teacher and pastor
doo'-los:
:a slave the word is used figuratively or literal, which will depend on the
context of the sentance and paragraph.
Same roots, very different meanings, and that is only an example of two words
with the same root.
>> Hmmmm, only one word used, unless it's ignorantly translated
>> "pleece"????????? LOL!!!
>>
ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!
>> Strong's Number: 5257 used 20 times.
>> Huperetes
>> Definition
>> servant
>> an underrower, subordinate rower
>> any one who serves with hands: a servant
>> in the NT of the officers and attendants of magistrates as -- of the officer
>> who executes penalties
>> of the attendants of a king, servants, retinue, the soldiers of a king, of
>> the attendant of a synagogue
>> of any one ministering or rendering service
>> any one who aids another in any work
>> an assistant
>> of the preacher of the gospel
>
> Now find Hupereretes in any of the Gospels.
>
>> Earth=semite!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Ah, the mocking of the foolish.
>
> John saw an angel come down, stand on the shores, and he put one foot on the
> "earth" and one foot on the "sea."
>
Try quoting correctly......Still no matter;
Strong's Ref. # 1093
Romanized ge
Pronounced ghay
contracted from a primary word; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part
or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application):
KJV--country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.
Which does not mean "semite"
Hmmmmmm.........maybe your confusing.........."earthquake"
Strong's Ref. # 4578
Romanized seismos
Pronounced sice-mos'
from GSN4579; a commotion, i.e. (of the air) a gale, (of the ground) an
earthquake:
KJV--earthquake, tempest.
That "seismos" IS simular to "semite" ROTFL!!!!!!!
> Now, what did he say, and what did it mean, oh, insightful one.
>
> Hint:
>
> "Earth" means Semites in general, Israelites in thesis, and "Jews who are not
> Jews" in antithesis.
>
ROTFL!!!!!!!
Strong's Ref. # 1093
Romanized ge
Pronounced ghay
contracted from a primary word; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part
or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application):
KJV--country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.
> "Sea" means Gentiles in general, Christians in thesis, and antichristians in
> antithesis.
>
Strong's Ref. # 2281
Romanized thalassa
Pronounced thal'-as-sah
probably prolonged from GSN0251; the sea (genitive case or specially):
KJV--sea.
> Let me know when you have a clue, and can tell me what the angel said, what
> passage of scripture it was alluding to, and why...
>
Ohhhhhhhh, and "fundymentilist" bent on "proophsay"!!!!!!!!!ROTFL!!!!!!!!!
Fred Thomas
"Ike E 11/23/9" <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Really, show where.
>
>
Fred Thomas
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If your trying to use the old adage "If you cant dazzle them with brilliance,
baffle them with bullshit", at last make you bullshit somewhat believable, or at
least defendable..
>
>
Ike E 11/23/9
>
> "Ike E 11/23/9" <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[snip]
>> If there is an intelligence beyond the temporal (and there is), there is
>> no way that the temporal could ever discover that intelligence, simply by
>> virtue of the fact that the temporal can only observe the temporal.
>>
>> Eternity is God's wicked curveball, and the temporal team strikes out
>> every time.
>>
>> Ike
>
> If your trying to use the old adage "If you cant dazzle them with
> brilliance, baffle them with bullshit", at last make you bullshit somewhat
> believable, or at least defendable..
OK, now try giving me a REAL argument, you pathetic excuse for an
"upright-walking man."
[snip]
Ike
Ike E 11/23/9
???
Where is the word "Slave?"
>> Wonder why that is?
>>
>
> Yeah, I wonder why the word slave.......oh wait! It is used in the KJV.
Really? Where?
I type "slave" in my search engine, and it doesn't come up AT ALL.
>> What of the words that ARE used throughout the Gospels?
>>
>> They're all versions of the SAME ROOT.
>>
>> Deo, Doulos, dioko, diokanon.
>>
>> A servant, i.e. a slave.
>>
> Study language, lots of words have common roots, however, the MEANING of
> the word IS different.
I study language all the time.
And Lexicons have ASCRIBED meanings of words.
Now, where is the word "slave" in the KJV NT.
>> Now go back and look at what Jesus said...
>>
>
> Jesus did not say anything, the writers of the myth did, it's their story.
Well, they must have been sharing in the same lunacy, 'cause they all have
Jesus telling TIME-BASED STORIES where THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY.
<chuckle>
>> "Whoever would be great among you, he must be your servant; and however
>> would be FIRST among you, he must be SLAVE OF ALL."
>>
>> Not much grey area here: Jesus, being the lowest of ALL slaves, became
>> the Master of all things by BEING the lowest off all slaves.
>>
> The KJV is servant.........
<yawn>
You haven't even BEGUN to understand what Jesus was saying, and how it
relates to all things.
<yawn and snip>
>>> Earth=semite!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> Ah, the mocking of the foolish.
>>
>> John saw an angel come down, stand on the shores, and he put one foot on
>> the "earth" and one foot on the "sea."
>>
>
> Try quoting correctly......Still no matter;
Now tell me what it all meant, oh, master of all insight.
<yawn and snip>
>> Hint:
>>
>> "Earth" means Semites in general, Israelites in thesis, and "Jews who are
>> not Jews" in antithesis.
>>
> ROTFL!!!!!!!
In other words you're an incompetent and clueless ass who doesn't know
"alpha" from "omega."
Got it.
So if you DON'T know what it means, WHAT THE HELL DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE
BIBLE?
<chuckle and snip>
Ike
Ike E 11/23/9
[snip]
>> "Earth" means Semites in general, Israelites in thesis, and "Jews who are
>> not
>> Jews" in antithesis.
>>
> ROTFL!!!!!!!
[snip]
>> "Sea" means Gentiles in general, Christians in thesis, and antichristians
>> in
>> antithesis.
[snip]
>> Let me know when you have a clue, and can tell me what the angel said,
>> what
>> passage of scripture it was alluding to, and why...
>>
> Ohhhhhhhh, and "fundymentilist" bent on "proophsay"!!!!!!!!!ROTFL!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>> <This is what happens when morons mock something they don't have a CLUE
>> about...>
Thanks for proving my point.
So, if you DON'T know what the angel said, and you DON'T know what the seven
thunders said in response, and you DON'T know what it all means, and you
DON'T know where it came from in the Bible, WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO JUDGE
THE MERITS OF THE BIBLE?
You would have to KNOW it before you could CRITICIZE IT, dumbass.
<chuckle>
Ike
Ike E 11/23/9
>
> "Ike E 11/23/9" <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Fred Thomas" <fr...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:VgwOm.44679$Wd1....@newsfe15.iad...
[snip]
>>> Stupid...
>>
>> That you are.
>>
>> <chuckle and snip>
>>
>> Ike
>>
> What the matter Ike, don't wanna play? ROTFL!!!!
Too boring: You have neither the intelligence nor the insight to keep up.
Ike
Ike E 11/23/9
Pretty much everything between Genesis 1:1 and Malachi 4:14, oh, clueless
one.
Ike
Fred Thomas
Guess you didn't see it, too bad.
>
>>> What of the words that ARE used throughout the Gospels?
>>>
>>> They're all versions of the SAME ROOT.
>>>
>>> Deo, Doulos, dioko, diokanon.
>>>
>>> A servant, i.e. a slave.
>>>
>> Study language, lots of words have common roots, however, the MEANING of the
>> word IS different.
>
> I study language all the time.
>
> And Lexicons have ASCRIBED meanings of words.
>
> Now, where is the word "slave" in the KJV NT.
>
It's there..............
>>> Now go back and look at what Jesus said...
>>>
>>
>> Jesus did not say anything, the writers of the myth did, it's their story.
>
> Well, they must have been sharing in the same lunacy, 'cause they all have
> Jesus telling TIME-BASED STORIES where THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY.
>
> <chuckle>
>
>>> "Whoever would be great among you, he must be your servant; and however
>>> would be FIRST among you, he must be SLAVE OF ALL."
>>>
>>> Not much grey area here: Jesus, being the lowest of ALL slaves, became the
>>> Master of all things by BEING the lowest off all slaves.
>>>
>> The KJV is servant.........
>
> <yawn>
>
> You haven't even BEGUN to understand what Jesus was saying, and how it relates
> to all things.
>
> <yawn and snip>
Oh there goes that "fundy" hidden meaning stuff again.........ROTFL!!!
>
>>>> Earth=semite!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> Ah, the mocking of the foolish.
>>>
>>> John saw an angel come down, stand on the shores, and he put one foot on the
>>> "earth" and one foot on the "sea."
>>>
>>
>> Try quoting correctly......Still no matter;
>
> Now tell me what it all meant, oh, master of all insight.
>
> <yawn and snip>
>
Yup, snip out when beaten.
earth=semite!!!!!!!!! LOL!
>>> Hint:
>>>
>>> "Earth" means Semites in general, Israelites in thesis, and "Jews who are
>>> not Jews" in antithesis.
>>>
>> ROTFL!!!!!!!
>
> In other words you're an incompetent and clueless ass who doesn't know "alpha"
> from "omega."
>
alpha:
the 1st letter of the Greek alphabet
first in order of importance; "the alpha male in the group of chimpanzees"; "the
alpha star in a constellation is the brightest or main star"
the beginning of a series or sequence.
omega:
the ending of a series or sequence
the last (24th) letter of the Greek alphabet
Yup, got it.LOL!
> Got it.
>
> So if you DON'T know what it means, WHAT THE HELL DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE BIBLE?
>
A lot more than you ROTFL!!!!!!!
earth=semite!!!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!
> <chuckle and snip>
>
> Ike
>
Fred Thomas
>
> "Fred Thomas" <fr...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:k9xOm.52077$de6....@newsfe21.iad...
>
> [snip]
>
>>> "Earth" means Semites in general, Israelites in thesis, and "Jews who are
>>> not
>>> Jews" in antithesis.
>>>
>> ROTFL!!!!!!!
>
> [snip]
>
earth=semite!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!!
>>> "Sea" means Gentiles in general, Christians in thesis, and antichristians in
>>> antithesis.
>
> [snip]
sea=gentile!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!STILL LAUGHING!!!!!!!!!
Dude!, Go on the comedy trail with this stuff, it's great!!!!!!!!!
>
>>> Let me know when you have a clue, and can tell me what the angel said, what
>>> passage of scripture it was alluding to, and why...
>>>
>> Ohhhhhhhh, and "fundymentilist" bent on "proophsay"!!!!!!!!!ROTFL!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>>> <This is what happens when morons mock something they don't have a CLUE
>>> about...>
>
> Thanks for proving my point.
>
First you have to have a point!
> So, if you DON'T know what the angel said, and you DON'T know what the seven
> thunders said in response, and you DON'T know what it all means, and you DON'T
> know where it came from in the Bible,
Sure I do. Your point?
> WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO JUDGE THE MERITS OF THE BIBLE?
>
And who are you?
> You would have to KNOW it before you could CRITICIZE IT, dumbass.
>
Tell you what, when you stop making up the meanings of those really old myths
that were plagerized from other myths..............
> <chuckle>
>
> Ike
>
Fred Thomas
>
> "Fred Thomas" <fr...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:k9xOm.52077$de6....@newsfe21.iad...
>
> [snip]
>
>>> "Earth" means Semites in general, Israelites in thesis, and "Jews who are
>>> not
>>> Jews" in antithesis.
>>>
>> ROTFL!!!!!!!
>
> [snip]
>
earth=semite!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!!
>>> "Sea" means Gentiles in general, Christians in thesis, and antichristians in
>>> antithesis.
>
> [snip]
sea=gentile!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!STILL LAUGHING!!!!!!!!!
Dude!, Go on the comedy trail with this stuff, it's great!!!!!!!!!
>
>>> Let me know when you have a clue, and can tell me what the angel said, what
>>> passage of scripture it was alluding to, and why...
>>>
>> Ohhhhhhhh, and "fundymentilist" bent on "proophsay"!!!!!!!!!ROTFL!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>>> <This is what happens when morons mock something they don't have a CLUE
>>> about...>
>
> Thanks for proving my point.
>
First you have to have a point!
> So, if you DON'T know what the angel said, and you DON'T know what the seven
> thunders said in response, and you DON'T know what it all means, and you DON'T
> know where it came from in the Bible,
Sure I do. Your point?
> WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO JUDGE THE MERITS OF THE BIBLE?
>
And who are you?
> You would have to KNOW it before you could CRITICIZE IT, dumbass.
>
Tell you what, when you stop making up the meanings of those really old myths
Fred Thomas
> Ike
>
Fred Thomas
Waiting on you mister earth=semite dude.
> [snip]
>
> Ike
>
Wild Bill
Yes, Ike has one of the most overblown egos of anyone I've seen on these
groups.
>
>
>> Ike
>>
>
Wild Bill
Yes, Ike has one of most overblown egos of anyone I've seen on these groups.
>
>
>> Ike
>>
>
Fred Thomas
I tend to liken it to small penis syndrome or the kid that got locked in the
lockers at school by the bigger kids, so now he has something to prove, he
doesn't know what, but he's gonna prove something!
>>
>>> Ike
>>>
>>
>
>
Ike E 11/23/9
[snip]
> Yup, snip out when beaten.
> earth=semite!!!!!!!!! LOL!
[snip]
> alpha:
> the 1st letter of the Greek alphabet
> first in order of importance; "the alpha male in the group of
> chimpanzees"; "the alpha star in a constellation is the brightest or main
> star"
> the beginning of a series or sequence.
>
>
> omega:
> the ending of a series or sequence
> the last (24th) letter of the Greek alphabet
>
> Yup, got it.LOL!
Not even close.
[snip]
Now, what happens in Revelation 10? Who is the angel? What does he say? What
is the response? Where did it come from in the Bible? And how does all of
this relate to the terms presented?
And if you CAN'T answer the questions, then who the hell are you to
criticize WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW?
<chuckle>
Ike
Ike E 11/23/9
>
> "Ike E 11/23/9" <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hee93i$mks$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
[snip]
>> So, if you DON'T know what the angel said, and you DON'T know what the
>> seven thunders said in response, and you DON'T know what it all means,
>> and you DON'T know where it came from in the Bible,
>
> Sure I do.
Oh, good: Then tell us, oh, grand master of all knowledge.
[snip]
Ike
Ike E 11/23/9
Nope. Just tired of wasting time with an ignorant fuck who doesn't know what
he's talking about, but presumes to criticize what he doesn't know anyway.
Now, in Revelation 10, who is the angel? What did he say? What was the
response? Where did it come from in scripture? And how does all of it relate
to the terms presented?
Ike
Ike E 11/23/9
Ah, no, the overblown egos are all yours.
See, the problem with assholes such as yourselves is that you don't WANT to
know that the Bible and the science were actually saying the same thing all
along, OTHERWISE you wouldn't have anything to excuse your pathetic
rebellions, and you would no longer be able to present yourselves as the
all-knowing, all-wise "superiors" to Christians.
They might not know HOW it works, but they believe it DOES work, which puts
them MILES ahead of you arrogant asses.
Ike
Ike E 11/23/9
Hey, moron...
Jer 51:48 Then the heaven and the earth, and all that is therein, shall sing
for Babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the north, saith the
LORD.
Since when do inanimate objects "sing?"
Ps 69:34 Let the heaven and earth praise him, the seas, and every thing that
moveth therein.
Since when do inanimate objects "praise?"
Here's a hint for you, you arrogant ass: Look for the definitions IN THE
BOOKS that USED THE TERMS...
Re 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore
sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
"Waters" (or "seas") = THE GENTILES.
Now where is the OTHER half of the metaphorical prophetic equation?
Revelation chapter 10.
Now, WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?
I mean, you MUST know, because only an asshole would mock what he doesn't
know, right?
And God forbid anyone should think you're an asshole.
So tell us, oh, grand pubah of all knowledge and wisdom...
Ike
Fred Thomas
>
> "Fred Thomas" <fr...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:t2yOm.78196$Wf2....@newsfe23.iad...
>
> [snip]
>
>> Yup, snip out when beaten.
>> earth=semite!!!!!!!!! LOL!
>
> [snip]
>
earth=semite!!!!!!!!!!!ROTFL!!!!!!!!!
>> alpha:
>> the 1st letter of the Greek alphabet
>> first in order of importance; "the alpha male in the group of chimpanzees";
>> "the alpha star in a constellation is the brightest or main star"
>> the beginning of a series or sequence.
>>
>>
>> omega:
>> the ending of a series or sequence
>> the last (24th) letter of the Greek alphabet
>>
>> Yup, got it.LOL!
>
> Not even close.
Yup got it. LOL!!
>
> [snip]
>
> Now, what happens in Revelation 10?
John is describing his trip on mushrooms, after reading the myth books of Daniel
and Ezekiel.
>Who is the angel?
Depends on who you ask. Some say it is the Jesus dude, some say it's god, I
personally don't care.
>What does he say?
Nothing it cried real loud, like a lion! Then "seven thunders" answered! And
then poor scared or tripping John was told NOT to write what he in his tripping
mind witnessed.
>What is the response?
Who's response the "strong angel", the "seven thunders" or the tripping John?
>Where did it come from in the Bible?
Daniel, Ezekiel which came from other ancient middle eastern mythologies.
> And how does all of this relate to the terms presented?
Absolutely nothing, and about as much relevance as the 2012 predictions or the
Zorostrorian future predictions. It's all myth.
> And if you CAN'T answer the questions, then who the hell are you to criticize
> WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW?
>
There are as many interpretations of what the text called Revelation as there
are Christian churches , and there are over 28000 of them. No matter what
interpretation I give you, will be in your little corner of the myth world as
wrong.
LOL!!!!!!!
earth=semite!!!!!!!!!!!!!ROTFL!!!!!!!!
Wild Bill
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!!
ROTFLLMAO!! Cracked me up completely Fred! Great post!
>
Fred Thomas
believes in Santa, when the rest of the crowd learned it was a lie at 10 years
old.
Ike E 11/23/9
Thanks for proving you don't have a clue as to what the very book you bear
false witness against means.
Ike
Ike E 11/23/9
Mt 11:16 But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto
children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows...
Ike
Ike E 11/23/9
[snip]
> What's really funny is the "fundy" Ikey acts like the 15 year old that
> still believes in Santa, when the rest of the crowd learned it was a lie
> at 10 years old.
Says the fool who has no idea what John or anyone else was talking about.
That's the epitome of a "dickhead."
Ike
I
> "Fred Thomas" <fr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> [snip]
>
>> What's really funny is the "fundy" Ikey acts like the 15 year old that
>> still believes in Santa, when the rest of the crowd learned it was a lie
>> at 10 years old.
...
> That's the epitome of a "dickhead."
That's our Ignorant Ike!!!
Ike can now return to Band Camp and play with his "flute".
Rumour has it that Ignorant Ike is the inspiration for the Who's "Uncle
Ernie" .....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'm your wicked Uncle Ernie
I'm glad you won't see or hear me
As I fiddle about
Fiddle about
Fiddle about !
Your mother left me here to mind you
Now I'm doing what I want to
Fiddling about
Fiddling about
Fiddle about!
Down with the bedclothes
Up with the nightshirt!
Fiddle about
Fiddle about
Fiddle about !
You won't shout as I fiddle about
Fiddle about
Fiddle about
Fiddle about !
Fiddle, fiddle, fiddle.
Read it and see the video clip at
http://crocmusic.com/track/61499/the_who/fiddle_about/
Ike E 11/23/9
"I" <me@home000000000000591> wrote in message
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> Ignorant "Ike E 11/23/9" <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> "Fred Thomas" <fr...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:hefrn0$91m$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
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>> [snip]
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>>> What's really funny is the "fundy" Ikey acts like the 15 year old that
>>> still believes in Santa, when the rest of the crowd learned it was a lie
>>> at 10 years old.
> ...
>> That's the epitome of a "dickhead."
>
>
> That's our Ignorant Ike!!!
...retorted the man who can't speak unless someone else puts the words in
his mouth.
Ike
Wild Bill
No Ike, it's you who doesn't have a clue. Has the fact that no one on these
groups has supported your blatherings, while several of us continue to
ridicule them, made any dent in your pea brain? I hope you continue though,
because you're getting funnier with every post! Look Ike, it's pretty
simple. The O.T. is supposed to be the history of the Jewish people, but it
consists of 80% myth and legend and 20% historical fact. The O.T. god
doesn't exist. The religion which eventually became Judaisim was borrowed
from the ancient Sumerians and Chaldeans about 1,800 years before Genesis.
The N.T. is basically a continuation of the myth and legend with a new
twist. A redeemer (Christ) is thrown in the mix to save humanity from the
mess the O.T. god created to begin with. The only place the story of this
redeemer can be found is in the N.T. No extrabiblical, contemporary,
eyewitness accounts are available to verify that this Jesus ever existed.
Personally, I think he did, because every great movement has a founder. But
the historical Jesus has been buried in legend and mythos. Like the O.T.,
the N.T. god simply doesn't exist.
Now, with that said, please continue with your comedy act!
>
> Ike
>
Ike E 11/23/9
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> "Ike E 11/23/9" <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:heftt8$l6c$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
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>> Thanks for proving you don't have a clue as to what the very book you
>> bear false witness against means.
>
> No
Yes.
> Ike, it's you who doesn't have a clue.
I have much more than a clue.
Now, what did the angel in Revelation 10 say? What was the response? Where
did it come from in scripture? And what does it all mean to the
interpretation of Revelation?
And if you can't answer these questions, WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE WHAT YOU DON'T
UNDERSTAND?
Ike