House: Complete Idiot, Or Delusional Liar?
Randy ®
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In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Are you just now figuring out that Mark is not a Christian?
Nearly everyone else figured it out when Mark said so.
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I <me@home000000000000529> wrote:
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I have been a CHRISTIAN since 1972.
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Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him
from the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and
gives you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone,
not your merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess.
1:8-9)? This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the
glory (Eph. 2:8-9).
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<snip ratbaggery>
Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God [YAHWEH NOT YAHWEH'S HUMAN CHRIST /
MESSIAH Jesus of Nazareth] with all your heart and with allyour soul and
with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest
commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'
All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments." Matthew
22:37-40
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from James Barr "Fundamentalism" (SCM Press:1977)
There is no 'the Bible' that 'claims' to be divinely inspired, there is no
'it' that has a 'view of itself'. ... There is no such thing as 'the Bible's
view of itself' from which a fully authoritative answer to these questions
can be obtained. ... The most obvious difficulty is the absence from the
New Testamnent of clear unambiguous 'claims' about the infallibility and
inerrancy of the total New Testament as we have it today. p.78
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Christ does not read the Bible, the New Testament, or the Gospel. He is the
norm of the Bible, the criterion of the New Testament, the incarnation of
the Gospel. ... The person, not the book, and the life, not the text, are
decisive and constitutive for us.
- John Dominic Crossan "God & Empire: Jesus against Rome, then and now,"
(HarperOne:2007) p. 95
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The most pronounced characteristics [of fundamentalists] are the following:
(a) a very strong emphasis on the inerrancy of the Bible, the absence from
it of any sort of error;
(b) a strong hostility to modern theology and to the methods, results and
implications of modern critical study of the Bible;
(c) an assurance that those who do not share their religious viewpoint are
not really 'true Christians' at all.
- James Barr "Fundamentalism" (SCM Press:1977) p.1
Randy ®
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I <me@home000000000000124> wrote:
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You can't know for sure what is NOT an error in the bible.
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The dolt attacks the source by which he knows Christ, insists he
can't be sure what is not an error in that source, then claims to
trust the same Christ that source proclaimed to him?
Self-evident, self-contradiction!
I
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In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Are you just now figuring out that Mark is not a Christian?
Nearly everyone else figured it out when Mark said so.
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I
dolf
> <snip ratbaggery>
>
> On Sat, 10/03/09, at 6:08:47PM,
> In Group: alt.christnet.christianlife
> Article: <4ac7d97f$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>
> I <me@home000000000000124> wrote:
> *****************************************************************
> You can't know for sure what is NOT an error in the bible.
> *****************************************************************
>
> The dolt attacks the source by which he knows Christ, insists he can't
> be sure what is not an error in that source, then claims to trust the
> same Christ that source proclaimed to him? Self-evident,
> self-contradiction!
>
>
I <me@home000000000000531> wrote:
> "Randy � Young" <pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip ratbaggery>
>
"So [Jesus] came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And as his
custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up
to read. And he has handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when he
had opened the book, he found the place where it was written:" [Luke
4:16-17]
"...A spirit of prophecy before the LORD God is upon me, because the
LORD has exalted me to announce good tidings to the poor; he has sent me
to strengthen the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, to
those who are bound, be revealed to light; to proclaim the year of
pleasure before the LORD, and the day of vengeance before out God; to
comfort all those who mourn; to confuse those who mourn in Zion--to give
them a diadem instead of ashes, oil of joy instead of mourning, a
praising spirit instead of their spirit which is dejected; that they may
call them true princes, the people of the LORD, that he maybe
glorified." [Isaiah 61:1-3]
It seems to me that Jesus read the Bible and claimed to be the norm of
the Bible as recorded in the New Testament.
> #########################################################
> Christ does not read the Bible, the New Testament, or the Gospel. He
is the
> norm of the Bible, the criterion of the New Testament, the incarnation of
> the Gospel. ... The person, not the book, and the life, not the text, are
> decisive and constitutive for us.
>
> - John Dominic Crossan "God & Empire: Jesus against Rome, then and now,"
> (HarperOne:2007) p. 95
> ########################################################
Nous: #78
Time:
Date:
Torah: #8 #5 #6 %81 = #19
Dao: Recognizing Fidelity, Trust in Faith
Tetra: #47 - Pattern
I-Ching: H59 - Dispersal
Latin: Requies {God good in himself} Alt: Momyah {Blemish of God} {
1. TO OBTAIN GRACE
2. THE EXILED, FUGITIVE & CONDEMNED PRISONERS
3. AGAINST THIEVES AND MURDERERS
4. Thuimis
}
Perez {Divided}
Strata Super (male): #531
77 #77 Natural Guide, Heaven's Reason
140 #63 Origins in Reversal, Consider Beginnings
209 #69 Profound Use, Function of the Mysterious
277 #68 Coinciding with Nature, Complying With Heaven
349 #72 Self-Love, Holding Oneself Dear
421 #72 Self-Love, Holding Oneself Dear
490 #69 Profound Use, Function of the Mysterious
491 #1 To Guide with Names, Reason's Realisation
531 #40 Reversal, Avoiding Activity
6 Categories
#20, #70, #30, #1, #200, #10, #50 kolasis - punishment 1, torment 1; 2
#50, #400, #50, #1, #30 Nethane'l - Nethaneel 14; 14 Nethaneel =
'given of God'
#1, #30, #50, #400, #50 'Elnathan - Elnathan 7; 7 Elnathan = 'God has
given'
#2, #8, #9, #500, #1, #3, #8 Bethphage - Bethphage 3; 3 Bethphage =
house of unripe figs
#20, #400, #100, #10, #1 Kuria - lady 2; 2
#6, #1, #30, #400, #100, #5 'Elteqe - Eltekeh 2; 2 Eltekeh = 'let God
spew thee out'
#531 English Words: accommodation; aesthetic; antitank; awl;
bronchitis; certificate; chinstrap; christening; diminuendo;
embroilment; full-blooded; heartbroken; hibiscus; igneous; insistence;
intimidated; irregardless; kindergarten; law; leaver; machinations;
marauder; patroon; perforated; predictor; prejudicial; reveal; shucks;
smarts; streamer; subjoin; telepathic; time-honored
dolf
> <snip ratbaggery>
>
> On Sat, 10/03/09, at 6:08:47PM,
> In Group: alt.christnet.christianlife
> Article: <4ac7d97f$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>
> I <me@home000000000000124> wrote:
> *****************************************************************
> You can't know for sure what is NOT an error in the bible.
> *****************************************************************
>
> The dolt attacks the source by which he knows Christ, insists he can't
> be sure what is not an error in that source, then claims to trust the
> same Christ that source proclaimed to him? Self-evident,
> self-contradiction!
>
>
I <me@home000000000000531> wrote:
> "Randy � Young" <pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip ratbaggery>
>
"So [Jesus] came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And as his
custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up
to read. And he has handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when he
had opened the book, he found the place where it was written:" [Luke
4:16-17]
"...A spirit of prophecy before the LORD God is upon me, because the
LORD has exalted me to announce good tidings to the poor; he has sent me
to strengthen the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, to
those who are bound, be revealed to light; to proclaim the year of
pleasure before the LORD, and the day of vengeance before out God; to
comfort all those who mourn; to confuse those who mourn in Zion--to give
them a diadem instead of ashes, oil of joy instead of mourning, a
praising spirit instead of their spirit which is dejected; that they may
call them true princes, the people of the LORD, that he maybe
glorified." [Isaiah 61:1-3]
It seems to me that Jesus read the Bible and claimed to be the norm of
the Bible as recorded in the New Testament.
> #########################################################
> Christ does not read the Bible, the New Testament, or the Gospel. He
is the
> norm of the Bible, the criterion of the New Testament, the incarnation of
> the Gospel. ... The person, not the book, and the life, not the text, are
> decisive and constitutive for us.
>
> - John Dominic Crossan "God & Empire: Jesus against Rome, then and now,"
> (HarperOne:2007) p. 95
> ########################################################
Nous: #78
dolf
as those who minister before our God; you shall eat the possessions of
the Gentiles, an in their glory you shall be indulged.
Instead of your being ashamed and confounded, two for one the benefits I
promised you I will bring to you, and the Gentiles will be ashamed who
were boasting in their lot; therefore in their land they shall possess
two for one: theirs shall be everlasting joy. For I the LORD love
judgment, despised before me are deceit and oppression: I will in truth
give them a reward of their deeds, and I will make and eternal covenant
with them." [Aramaic targum Isaiah 61: 6-8]
Randy � <pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <snip ratbaggery>
>
> On Sat, 10/03/09, at 6:08:47PM,
> In Group: alt.christnet.christianlife
> Article: <4ac7d97f$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>
> I <me@home000000000000124> wrote:
> *****************************************************************
> You can't know for sure what is NOT an error in the bible.
> *****************************************************************
>
> The dolt attacks the source by which he knows Christ, insists he can't
> be sure what is not an error in that source, then claims to trust the
> same Christ that source proclaimed to him? Self-evident,
> self-contradiction!
>
>
I <me@home000000000000531> wrote:
> "Randy � Young" <pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip ratbaggery>
>
"So [Jesus] came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And as his
custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up
to read. And he has handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when he
had opened the book, he found the place where it was written:" [Luke
4:16-17]
"...A spirit of prophecy before the LORD God is upon me, because the
LORD has exalted me to announce good tidings to the poor; he has sent me
to strengthen the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, to
those who are bound, be revealed to light; to proclaim the year of
pleasure before the LORD, and the day of vengeance before out God; to
comfort all those who mourn; to confuse those who mourn in Zion--to give
them a diadem instead of ashes, oil of joy instead of mourning, a
praising spirit instead of their spirit which is dejected; that they may
call them true princes, the people of the LORD, that he maybe
glorified." [Isaiah 61:1-3]
It seems to me that Jesus read the Bible and claimed to be the norm of
the Bible as recorded in the New Testament.
> #########################################################
> Christ does not read the Bible, the New Testament, or the Gospel. He
is the
> norm of the Bible, the criterion of the New Testament, the incarnation of
> the Gospel. ... The person, not the book, and the life, not the text, are
> decisive and constitutive for us.
>
> - John Dominic Crossan "God & Empire: Jesus against Rome, then and now,"
> (HarperOne:2007) p. 95
> ########################################################
Nous: #78
dolf
"...But you shall be called priests of the LORD, men shall speak of you
as those who minister before our God; you shall eat the possessions of
the Gentiles, and in their glory you shall be indulged.
Instead of your being ashamed and confounded, two for one the benefits I
promised you I will bring to you, and the Gentiles will be ashamed who
were boasting in their lot; therefore in their land they shall possess
two for one: theirs shall be everlasting joy. For I the LORD love
judgment, despised before me are deceit and oppression: I will in truth
give them a reward of their deeds, and I will make and eternal covenant
with them." [Aramaic Targum Isaiah 61: 6-8]
- dolf
- http://www.grapple.id.au/about.html
Randy � <pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <snip ratbaggery>
>
> On Sat, 10/03/09, at 6:08:47PM,
> In Group: alt.christnet.christianlife
> Article: <4ac7d97f$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>
> I <me@home000000000000124> wrote:
> *****************************************************************
> You can't know for sure what is NOT an error in the bible.
> *****************************************************************
>
> The dolt attacks the source by which he knows Christ, insists he can't
> be sure what is not an error in that source, then claims to trust the
> same Christ that source proclaimed to him? Self-evident,
> self-contradiction!
>
>
I <me@home000000000000531> wrote:
> "Randy � Young" <pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip ratbaggery>
>
"So [Jesus] came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And as his
custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up
to read. And he has handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when he
had opened the book, he found the place where it was written:" [Luke
4:16-17]
"...A spirit of prophecy before the LORD God is upon me, because the
LORD has exalted me to announce good tidings to the poor; he has sent me
to strengthen the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, to
those who are bound, be revealed to light; to proclaim the year of
pleasure before the LORD, and the day of vengeance before our God; to
comfort all those who mourn; to confuse those who mourn in Zion--to give
them a diadem instead of ashes, oil of joy instead of mourning, a
praising spirit instead of their spirit which is dejected; that they may
call them true princes, the people of the LORD, that he maybe
glorified." [Isaiah 61:1-3]
It seems to me that Jesus read the Bible and claimed to be the norm of
the Bible as recorded in the New Testament.
> #########################################################
> Christ does not read the Bible, the New Testament, or the Gospel. He
is the
> norm of the Bible, the criterion of the New Testament, the incarnation of
> the Gospel. ... The person, not the book, and the life, not the text, are
> decisive and constitutive for us.
>
> - John Dominic Crossan "God & Empire: Jesus against Rome, then and now,"
> (HarperOne:2007) p. 95
> ########################################################
Nous: #78
::: Jesus is LORD :::
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> In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Are you just now figuring out that Mark is not a Christian?
> Nearly everyone else figured it out when Mark said so.
> *****************************************************************
Ha, ha, ha!!!
They are too funny. Pagans among themselves. lololol
I
<snippeth>
Vera Six blindly follows unemployable Randy Young
Randy ®
::: Jesus is LORD ::: <jesus-...@lycos.com> wrote:
> Randy �pulpi...@gmail.com wrote in
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>> > On Wed, 11/11/09, at 8:25:28AM,
>> > In Group: alt.christnet.christianlife
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>> > In My Fathers House<hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> > Are you just now figuring out that Mark is not a Christian?
>> > Nearly everyone else figured it out when Mark said so.
>> > *****************************************************************
> Ha, ha, ha!!!
>
> They are too funny. Pagans among themselves. lololol
Less than an hour after Mark claimed "I have been a CHRISTIAN
since 1972.", House claimed "nearly everyone" knew he's not a
christian, because "Mark said so". And even when he saw the
direct quote of Mark saying, "I have been a CHRISTIAN since
1972", do you think he admitted any discrepancy?
No, the lying ass accused me of making false claims, as if the
context would somehow reconcile his statement and Mark's. It's
getting to the point where he does things like this on an almost
daily basis, as if he thinks people will somehow find his lies
more convincing than seeing a direct quote of the truth he
contradicts.
I
posts???
::: Jesus is LORD :::
Randy ®
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In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Are you just now figuring out that Mark is not a Christian?
Nearly everyone else figured it out when Mark said so.
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I <me@home000000000000529> wrote:
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I have been a CHRISTIAN since 1972.
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Jude Alexander
he's a hereticktack.
"Randy �" <pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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: On Wed, 11/11/09, at 8:25:28AM,
Randy ®
Jude Alexander <Onec...@swampland.net> wrote:
> He's not a "Christian" in the sense that you define Christian. In your mind,
> he's a hereticktack.
He's not a christian according to House, and according to "nearly
everyone" (according to House).
> "Randy �"<pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> : On Wed, 11/11/09, at 8:25:28AM,
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> : Are you just now figuring out that Mark is not a Christian?
> : Nearly everyone else figured it out when Mark said so.
> : *****************************************************************
> :
> : On Wed, 11/11/09, at 0:07:41AM,
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> : I have been a CHRISTIAN since 1972.
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He's also not a christian according to the source he claims he
can't be sure anything in is not an error, i.e. the Bible:
On Sat, 10/03/09, at 6:08:47PM,
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You can't know for sure what is NOT an error in the bible.
Jude Alexander
: On Thu, 11/12/09, at 11:14:04AM,
: Jude Alexander <Onec...@swampland.net> wrote:
:
: > He's not a "Christian" in the sense that you define Christian. In your
mind,
: > he's a hereticktack.
:
:
: He's not a christian according to House, and according to "nearly
: everyone" (according to House).
It's not up to anybody but Mark & God to define what he is. Mark defines
himself as a Christian. Obviously, the way you define Christian isn't going
to include Mark. I don't know why House said that.
Belief in inerrant bible does NOT define whether someone is a Christian or
not. One can read a book that is not perfect about seeking God and set a
course to do so. It doesn't HAVE to be inerrant.
: > "Randy �"<pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I
>#######################################################
>From: Randy � <pulpi...@gmail.com>
>Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:56:54 -0500
>
>Today, after work, they informed me my position is being eliminated
>due to the economy and downsizing. My wife is pregnant, on a lot of
>expensive medication, and we have two other small children. I am the only
>source of income for the family. Please pray God will supply for all our
>needs, and give us a smooth transition to new employment.
I
Randy ®
I <me@home000000000000531> wrote:
> Unemployable bully Randy �Young<pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> #######################################################
>> From: Randy �<pulpi...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:56:54 -0500
>>
>> Today, after work, they informed me my position is being eliminated
>> due to the economy and downsizing. My wife is pregnant, on a lot of
>> expensive medication, and we have two other small children. I am the only
>> source of income for the family. Please pray God will supply for all our
>> needs, and give us a smooth transition to new employment.
>> ######################################################
>
You must be confusing me with yourself, Mark. I have hope in the
God of the Bible, because I believe the Bible to be God's word.
From m_b_t...@tpg.com.au Sat May 15 21:05:29 2004
Subject: Re: Mark Tindall: this is your life!
From: "Mark and Bev Tindall" <m_b_t...@tpg.com.au>
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:05:29 +1000
Article: <40a6...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>
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...still coping with it as part of ongoing PTSS. In the past I
have had panic attacks, agoraphobia, suicidal thoughts and have
wept uncontrollable while in the fetal position etc etc etc. Now
treated by doctor. Also repeated bouts of binge drinking (10
plus drinks a day) in times of huge stress (though I prefer pot
...but it is illegal)
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Sounds to me like Mark is the one struggling with hope. But
isn't that to be expected, given he has devoted his life to
attacking faith in the God of the Bible?
::: Jesus is LORD :::
T7ednehp8qrUGWHX...@giganews.com
Oh boy - Mark seems to be a real psychopathic junkie and drunkard! But
that is nothing new.
> Sounds to me like Mark is the one struggling with hope.
Definitely.
> But
> isn't that to be expected, given he has devoted his life to
> attacking faith in the God of the Bible?
Of course.
And his latest psychopathic attacks on God's people laletly and in the
past years gave proof of it.
I
> 4) Mark T is the one who is apparently unemployed. Being retired doesn't
> mean Mark is employed. It means he is willfully unemployed.
I worked today. Travelled 2 hours away to work in a particular small high
school out west for FREE. I don't need the money. The kids did need me. I
am delivering a State endorsed program to MANY kids in my neighbouring
regions - all for FREE.
I am also a "Living Book" at my local library where people borrow me for an
hour to hear my life story and ask me questions. I am one of the most
borrowed "Living Books" in my area. That is also FREE - though I am writing
my biography at the moment for publication (for which I will charge).
I speak to a group of medical professionals (doctors, nurses, psychologists,
etc) on Monday. Again FREE.
I compose music and distribute it for FREE.
Like I say I don't need the money. I own my house. I own my car. I have an
income stream. I'm completely debt free. I'm retired but still busy doing
things from which I used to receive payment but now doing it for FREE for
people that could not previously afford my professional fee.
Why am I stating this? Because Randy Young repeatedly LIES and is SURE to
distort something in his little narrow mind!!!!