Trend: Cities wooing sodomite tourism [just like the last days of Lot]
Ted L
www.wayoflife.org fb...@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143) - There is a worldwide
push to promote homosexual tourism. Even Nepal is gearing up toward this. A
report in the Kathmandu Post states, "Almost three years after the Supreme
Court established gay rights in Nepal, the country is awaiting to host 'one
of the most extravagant groups of tourists in the world'-- the sexual
minorities consisting of lesbians, gays,. bi-sexuals and transgenders
(LGBTs)" ("Nepal Eyes Sexual Minorities for Tourism," Oct. 22, 2009). The
country is hosting a "historic international conference" in February to
"explore opportunities for gay tourism in Nepal." The United Nations pushes
"gay rights" and tolerance toward moral perversion and wants to see
international laws passed forbidding "discrimination." The world, having
traded the holy Creator God for a lie, is rushing pell-mell toward eternal
destruction. Jesus likened the last days to the days of Lot when wicked
Sodom and Gomorrah were given over to homosexuality (Luke 17:28-30), and the
major cities of the world are looking more like Sodom with each passing
decade.
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http://www.plymouthbrethren.org/article/1368
....Matt....
wrote:
Ted what do you want done to homosexuals?
Wild Bill
"Ted L" <spamta...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You really need to get off the homophobia kick...it makes you look stupid!
(<<Kelly>>)
> Jesus likened the last days to the days of Lot when wicked
> Sodom and Gomorrah were given over to homosexuality (Luke 17:28-30), and the
> major cities of the world are looking more like Sodom with each passing
> decade.
Oh, good grief. You seriously think that Jesus is referring to
homosexuality in Luke 17:28-30? And somehow you got "the days of Lot"
and "Sodom and Gomorrah" from that Scripture, too???
You're an idiot.
CB
He didn't say that.
That makes you the idiot.
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The wonders of His glorious love, And my own worthlessness.
Content to let the world go by, to know no gain nor loss,
My sinful self my only shame, my glory all the cross!
CB
What's really stupid is believeing that God condones perversion
(homosexuality).
Wild Bill
"CB" <count...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Well, I have known and worked with several gay and lesbian individuals and
every one of them told me that they did not conciously choose their sexual
orientation. Rather, they are born that way. Now, it's a pretty stupid god
who supposedly detests homosexuality while creating about 10% of the human
race that way!
The Doctor
Anti-homosexuality is written in the Bible.
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Well, the Bible is one of the most barbaric and ignorant collection of
writings known. Consider the source!
(<<Kelly>>)
> Anti-homosexuality is written in the Bible.
No it's not.
Randy ®
( <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No it's not.
Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of
the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house.
They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with
them." Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind
him and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.
(Genesis 19:4-7)
"'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is
detestable. (Leviticus 18:22)
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both
of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
(Leviticus 20:13)
While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of
the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they
shouted to the old man who owned the house, "Bring out the man
who came to your house so we can have sex with him." The owner
of the house went outside and said to them, "No, my friends,
don't be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don't do this
disgraceful thing. (Judges 19:22-23)
They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped
and served created things rather than the Creator—who is
forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to
shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual
relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also
abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with
lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other
men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their
error. (Romans 1:25-27)
(1 Corinthians 6:9) Do you not know that the wicked will not
inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the
sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male
prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but
for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy
and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers,
for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing
homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers. And
it is for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that
conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed
God, which he entrusted to me. (1 Timothy 1:9-11)
In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns
gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They
serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of
eternal fire. (Jude 1:7)
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Randy ®
( <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh, good grief. You seriously think that Jesus is referring to
> homosexuality in Luke 17:28-30? And somehow you got "the days of Lot"
> and "Sodom and Gomorrah" from that Scripture, too???
>
> You're an idiot.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NASB
(9) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
(10) nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers,
nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 John 3:7-8 NASB
(7) Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who
practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;
(8) the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has
sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this
purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:18:20 -0700 (PDT),
In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article
<411f947c-259b-4b02...@y4g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Subject: Re: Self Defense
<<k�ll�>> <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
**************************************************************
I *am* gay and have never said I stopped being gay
**************************************************************
On 7 Jan 2007 18:38:14 -0800,
In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article <1168223894.3...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
Subject: Re: RANDY "PULPITFIRE" YOUNG...WHY DID YOU SAY THAT???
"*IKnowThatIAmAWhosoeverToo*" <onthe...@verizon.net> wrote:
**************************************************************
I am a lesbian
**************************************************************
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:17:55 -0700 (PDT),
In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article
<983eeea0-7d26-4811...@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com>,
Subject: Re: Avoiding Self-righteousness A Sinful Woman Forgiven
<<k�ll�>> <rosie...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
**************************************************************
I was born homosexual, just as you were (I assume) born
heterosexual. I did not wake up one day and make a decision to be
homosexual any more than one day you woke up and decided to be
heterosexual. Homosexual is what I am naturally in sexual
preference and attraction.
**************************************************************
On 21 Jul 2006 11:18:48 -0700,
in article
<1153505928....@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
"Whosoever" <onthe...@verizon.net> wrote:
**************************************************************
No, the Bible does not forbid same-sex relations in a
committed, loving, monogamous relationship. It speaks of
homosexual-style rape in Genesis (but that isn't why Sodom was
destroyed), it speaks of anal-penetration in Leviticus (which
is something plenty of heterosexuals partake in), and it
speaks of same-sex temple prostitution in the New Testament.
None of these have anything to do with committed, loving,
monogamous homosexuality.
**************************************************************
On 29 Jul 2006 23:25:00 -0700,
in article
<1154240700.1...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"3Wh�s�ever3" <onthe...@verizon.net> wrote:
**************************************************************
I never said a word about my homosexuality in these groups
until you thought you had the right to "expose" me.
**************************************************************
I
The Doctor
<<Kelly>> <<Kelly> wrote:
>On Nov 1, 7:39=A0am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>
>> Anti-homosexuality is written in the Bible.
>
>No it's not.
>
REad LEviticus thoroughly!
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Atheism is the source of barbarism and ignorance thank you.
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(<<Kelly>>)
> REad LEviticus thoroughly!
Been there, done that, done it several times more - it still doesn't
say what you apparently think it does.
Randy ®
( <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NASB
(9) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
(10) nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers,
nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 John 3:7-8 NASB
(7) Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who
practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;
(8) the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has
sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this
purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:18:20 -0700 (PDT),
In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article
<411f947c-259b-4b02...@y4g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Subject: Re: Self Defense
<<kêllÿ>> <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
**************************************************************
I *am* gay and have never said I stopped being gay
**************************************************************
On 7 Jan 2007 18:38:14 -0800,
In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article <1168223894.3...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
Subject: Re: RANDY "PULPITFIRE" YOUNG...WHY DID YOU SAY THAT???
"*IKnowThatIAmAWhosoeverToo*" <onthe...@verizon.net> wrote:
**************************************************************
I am a lesbian
**************************************************************
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:17:55 -0700 (PDT),
In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article
<983eeea0-7d26-4811...@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com>,
Subject: Re: Avoiding Self-righteousness A Sinful Woman Forgiven
"3Whösöever3" <onthe...@verizon.net> wrote:
**************************************************************
I never said a word about my homosexuality in these groups
until you thought you had the right to "expose" me.
**************************************************************
I
The Doctor
(<<Kelly>>)
> In article <35adnRUHs5gft3PXnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@giganews.com>,
>
> >> On Nov 1, 3:28 pm,doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>
> >>> > REad LEviticus thoroughly!
> >> Been there, done that, done it several times more - it still doesn't
> >> say what you apparently think it does.
>
> >1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NASB
> >(9) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the
> >kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor
> >idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
> >(10) nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers,
> >nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
>
> >1 John 3:7-8 NASB
> >(7) Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who
> >practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;
> >(8) the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has
> >sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this
> >purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
>
> >On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:18:20 -0700 (PDT),
> > In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
> > Article
> > Subject: Re: Self Defense
> > <<kêllÿ>> <rosiebelleatrocketmail....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >**************************************************************
> >I *am* gay and have never said I stopped being gay
> >**************************************************************
>
> >On 7 Jan 2007 18:38:14 -0800,
> > In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
> > Subject: Re: RANDY "PULPITFIRE" YOUNG...WHY DID YOU SAY THAT???
> >**************************************************************
> >I am a lesbian
> >**************************************************************
>
> >On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:17:55 -0700 (PDT),
> > In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
> > Article
> > Subject: Re: Avoiding Self-righteousness A Sinful Woman Forgiven
> >**************************************************************
> >I was born homosexual, just as you were (I assume) born
> >heterosexual. I did not wake up one day and make a decision to be
> >homosexual any more than one day you woke up and decided to be
> >heterosexual. Homosexual is what I am naturally in sexual
> >preference and attraction.
> >**************************************************************
>
> >On 21 Jul 2006 11:18:48 -0700,
> > in article
> > "Whosoever" <ontheska...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >**************************************************************
> >No, the Bible does not forbid same-sex relations in a
> >committed, loving, monogamous relationship. It speaks of
> >homosexual-style rape in Genesis (but that isn't why Sodom was
> >destroyed), it speaks of anal-penetration in Leviticus (which
> >is something plenty of heterosexuals partake in), and it
> >speaks of same-sex temple prostitution in the New Testament.
> >None of these have anything to do with committed, loving,
> >monogamous homosexuality.
> >**************************************************************
>
> > On 29 Jul 2006 23:25:00 -0700,
> > in article
You can read a modern translation 'til the cows come home - the truth
is found in the original intent, the original language of the text,
and the culture and customs of the time Leviticus was written in.
Anything else is just reading, not studying to show yourself approved
unto God.
Mordecai
The Doctor wrote:
Randy?
Oh but Randy KNOWS that lesbians are not condemned, not in the law, and not in the NT.
He has played this little game for ages - and got into real strife when he watched me
pull him apart.
And his cohorts.
For example, the word translated "homosexual" in this reference is for males ONLY and
does not include lesbians. The claim "does NOT" is better explained as ** EXCLUDES **
lesbians. Nobody reads the greek and includes lesbians, not the most conservative
orthodox christian theologians.
In actual fact, the more learned the theologian - the more this position is debunked
... even though these theologians are conservative and traditional and support the
repudiation of homosexuals ** and lesbians ** also.
I even had an eastern orthodox priest who's religion condemns lesbians .. and he was
forced to admit that it was a ruling of the church, not the bible. As I have no problem
with a ruling of a church (you can make any ruling you like) this was fine. Mind you -
he also believed at the beginning that the bible instructed that lesbians were
condemned until I forced him to look - and he had to back down.
Randy watched me do this ... it was OPEN. It was PUBLIC.
Randy knows that neither the NT, nor the law condemns lesbians.
It is even worse - the power to condemn is through the law. Paul says this.
Red headed people , left handed people and so on, have been condemned but without a
law, the condemnation is the words of men.
Likewise, without a law, there is no condemnation of lesbians.
I do not mind you having an opinion ... but I do not particularly like watching Randy
deliberately deceive christians into condemning left handed red headed lesbians as the
law does not condemn left handed, nor does it condemn red headed, nor does it condemn
lesbians.
As I pointed out to him directly - Randy does not have a single verse.
NOT ONE - which condemns lesbians.
Not in Tanach, and not in the NT.
He watched me confront priests, he disliked the outcome ... he found ... an answer ...
so he could continue with his deceptions.
But ... just imagine - a gang of lesbians hang around the door of lot demanding they
send out the men so they could have sex with them!
--
Mordecai!
When words and actions disagree, believe actions.
When rhetoric and reality disagree, either rhetoric is wrong or reality is wrong, and
reality is Never wrong.
CB
wrote:
Too easy.
They lied.
Perverts are liars.
But you're too stupid to know that.
CB
wrote:
>
Too easy.
I'll believe the Bible instead of you.
>> --
CB
Sure it is.
CB
wrote:
Randy, excuse the top post.
You correctly quoted Scripture to one who hates Scripture.
She/he/it only believes Scripture that fits her agenda.
>On Sun, 11/01/09, at 10:01:50AM,
>( <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> No it's not.
>
>Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of
>the city of Sodom?both young and old?surrounded the house.
>They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you
>tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with
>them." Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind
>him and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.
>(Genesis 19:4-7)
>
>
>"'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is
>detestable. (Leviticus 18:22)
>
>
>If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both
>of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
>put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
>(Leviticus 20:13)
>
>
>While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of
>the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they
>shouted to the old man who owned the house, "Bring out the man
>who came to your house so we can have sex with him." The owner
>of the house went outside and said to them, "No, my friends,
>don't be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don't do this
>disgraceful thing. (Judges 19:22-23)
>
>
>They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped
>and served created things rather than the Creator?who is
>forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to
>shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual
>relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also
>abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with
>lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other
>men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their
>error. (Romans 1:25-27)
>
>
>(1 Corinthians 6:9) Do you not know that the wicked will not
>inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the
>sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male
>prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
>
>We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but
>for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy
>and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers,
>for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing
>homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers. And
>it is for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that
>conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed
>God, which he entrusted to me. (1 Timothy 1:9-11)
>
>
>In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns
>gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They
>serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of
>eternal fire. (Jude 1:7)
--
CB
Gee, you're dumb!!
CB
<rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>You can read a modern translation 'til the cows come home - the truth
>is found in the original intent, the original language of the text,
>and the culture and customs of the time Leviticus was written in.
>Anything else is just reading, not studying to show yourself approved
>unto God.
IOW, you will go to any lengths to prove Scripture untrue.
Wow!!
Randy ®
( <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> <<k�ll�>> <rosiebelleatrocketmail....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> **************************************************************
>>> I *am* gay and have never said I stopped being gay
>>> **************************************************************
>>
>>> On 7 Jan 2007 18:38:14 -0800,
>>> In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
>>> Article<1168223894.321030.204...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Subject: Re: RANDY "PULPITFIRE" YOUNG...WHY DID YOU SAY THAT???
>>> "*IKnowThatIAmAWhosoeverToo*"<ontheska...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> **************************************************************
>>> I am a lesbian
>>> **************************************************************
>>
>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:17:55 -0700 (PDT),
>>> In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
>>> Article
>>> <983eeea0-7d26-4811-8cd3-6a52b0f1b...@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Subject: Re: Avoiding Self-righteousness A Sinful Woman Forgiven
>>> "3Wh�s�ever3"<ontheska...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> **************************************************************
>>> I never said a word about my homosexuality in these groups
>>> until you thought you had the right to "expose" me.
>>> **************************************************************
>>
>>> Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of
>>> the city of Sodom�both young and old�surrounded the house.
>>> They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you
>>> tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with
>>> them." Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind
>>> him and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.
>>> (Genesis 19:4-7)
>>
>>> "'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is
>>> detestable. (Leviticus 18:22)
>>
>>> If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both
>>> of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
>>> put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
>>> (Leviticus 20:13)
>>
>>> While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of
>>> the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they
>>> shouted to the old man who owned the house, "Bring out the man
>>> who came to your house so we can have sex with him." The owner
>>> of the house went outside and said to them, "No, my friends,
>>> don't be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don't do this
>>> disgraceful thing. (Judges 19:22-23)
>>
>>> They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped
>>> and served created things rather than the Creator�who is
You're a liar. Homosexuality was condemned before, during, and
after Leviticus, and the original languages confirm the translations.
Randy ®
CB <count...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:18:43 -0800 (PST), "(<<Kelly>>)"
> <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> >
>> >You can read a modern translation 'til the cows come home - the truth
>> >is found in the original intent, the original language of the text,
>> >and the culture and customs of the time Leviticus was written in.
>> >Anything else is just reading, not studying to show yourself approved
>> >unto God.
> IOW, you will go to any lengths to prove Scripture untrue.
> Wow!!
Correct. She's a shameless liar and has been promoting the
false, damnable gospel of unrepentant homosexual salvation in here.
Ted L
> Ted what do you want done to homosexuals?
Oh you just can't wait to see those new thought crime laws get taken
out for a spin. Don't worry I'm sure it won't be long when some son
of Belial DA will break 'em in.
Ted L
Actually that'll be a federal prosecutor initially. Kindred spirit of
yours nontheless.
Ted L
> "CB" <country2...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:nh1qe5h00d6uv5lle...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:40:57 -0700, "Wild Bill"
>
> >>"Ted L" <spamtaddl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:wZ%Gm.3374$cW....@newsreading01.news.tds.net...
> >>> HOMOSEXUAL TOURISM (Friday Church News Notes, October 30, 2009,
Regardless of their inbred desires, God still calls it an
abomination. And God didn't create them that way, that's our
corrupted depraved state to which he gives us over for the sins of
rejecting Him (Romans 1:26). Having normal desires doesn't justify
sins of lust, fornications, adultry, etc. Neither does the vile
affections of sodomy get a pass.
dolf
Have you not heard that in the beginning God made them androgynous (male
and female)?
"God made the male ALONE and a rib on the 6th day--and the female on the
13th day when she was shown to her husband" [Jubilees 2:14]
HENCE: This is the law for her that hath born a male or a female.
"If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be
unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her
infirmity shall she be unclean. And in the eighth day the flesh of his
foreskin shall be circumcised. And she shall then continue in the blood
of her purifying three and thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed
thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be
fulfilled. But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two
weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her
purifying threescore and six days." [Leviticus 12:2-5]
God did not sanctify any people or nations to keep the Sabbath but
Israel" [Jubilees 2:31]
Circumcision is not a requirement under the new covenant and neither is
there male nor female in Christ.
Randy ®
In My Fathers House
What are you talking about? That makes about as much sense as your
claims about Bronze Age tourism industries.
I think Matt's question was reasonable. Do you refuse to answer it?
What do you want done to homosexuals?
And now for a question from me:
Aside from what a ~book~ told you to think about them do you have any
complaint against homosexuals?
Randy ®
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> And now for a question from me:
> Aside from what a ~book~
Why do you say, "aside" from any book? Faith comes by hearing,
and hearing by the word of God (Romans 10:17). Why are you
trying to turn people aside from God's word?
>told you to think about them do you have any
> complaint against homosexuals?
The question is, why do you have a complaint against God being
holy and righteous? Why don't you go start your own cult, where
you worship an unholy god who embraces abomination and sin, and
the blood atonement of Christ isn't necessary, because nothing is
wrong, instead of trying to pervert, pollute, and corrupt
Christianity day and night?
In My Fathers House
[...]
> > Now, it's a pretty stupid god
> > who supposedly detests homosexuality while creating about 10% of the human
> > race that way!
>
Do you have evidence that homosexuality is caused by inbreeding or did
you just spread false information in order to slur?
> . . . God still calls it an
> abomination.
Aside from a heavily edited book do you have any evidence for that?
Some book told you.
> And God didn't create them that way, that's our
> corrupted depraved state to which he gives us over for the sins of
> rejecting Him (Romans 1:26).
Circular reasoning is a fallacy. LOL- some book told you. The book
must be right because it told you it was.
> Having normal desires doesn't justify
> sins of lust, fornications, adultry, etc.
Adultery is not like the others for the others are not a breaking of a
contract. Apples to oranges. For your claim regarding the others -
got any proof? How about any evidence aside from a book told you so?
> Neither does the vile
> affections of sodomy get a pass.
You have a nice house of cards made out of human constructs.
In My Fathers House
>
> > And now for a question from me:
> > Aside from what a ~book~
>
> Why do you say, "aside" from any book?
It was "a" and that would be because there is a good chance that all
of his views on this topic are caused directly or indirectly from one
volume. If one doesn't that answer might be interesting.
> Faith comes by hearing,
> and hearing by the word of God (Romans 10:17). Why are you
> trying to turn people aside from God's word?
I'm not. When are you going to stop using loaded questions?
> >told you to think about them do you have any
> > complaint against homosexuals?
>
> The question is, why do you have a complaint against God being
> holy and righteous?
I don't. When will you stop using the loaded question fallacy. First
established something happened before you ask about it.
> Why don't you go start your own cult, where
> you worship an unholy god who embraces abomination and sin, and
> the blood atonement of Christ isn't necessary, because nothing is
> wrong . . .
I don't because there would be no reason for me to do that. I
certainly have no desire for that.
> . . . instead of trying to pervert, pollute, and corrupt
> Christianity day and night?
Again, establish something happened. Then you won't look stupid
asking questions about what never happened. Do you have any questions
that relate to reality by God?
(<<Kelly>>)
Honestly, I think Ted's elevator doesn't go quite to the top - not a
lot of good working brain-matter inside his noggin' (if you know what
I mean). There's a reason why he always has to use other people's
thoughts about this and that when it comes to Scripture, ya know?
::: Jesus is LORD :::
b6098e2c-7229-419c...@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com
> On Nov 1, 8:18 pm, Ted L <spamtaddl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
>>> Now, it's a pretty stupid god
>>> who supposedly detests homosexuality while creating about 10% of
>>> the human race that way!
>>
>> Regardless of their inbred desires . . .
>
> Do you have evidence that homosexuality is caused by inbreeding or did
> you just spread false information in order to slur?
Is God's Word not enough evidence for you in a Christian newsgroup? If
you need medical "evidence", you should go to a medicine group. Ted is
right about his claims from a Christian point of view. If you hate the
Christian point of view, you are free to listen to people with other
point of views. Just go to your favorite group - or wherever you came
from - I suppose it was a group for homosexuals, right?
>> . . . God still calls it an
>> abomination.
>
> Aside from a heavily edited book do you have any evidence for that?
It is not our fault that you do not accept God's Word as your standard.
> Some book told you.
Not some book - God's Word. But there is obviously no difference for
you.
>> And God didn't create them that way, that's our
>> corrupted depraved state to which he gives us over for the sins of
>> rejecting Him (Romans 1:26).
>
> Circular reasoning is a fallacy.
So better stop it.
> LOL- some book told you. The book
> must be right because it told you it was.
Nah, God's Word told him - and God has told me the same, go figure.
>> Having normal desires doesn't justify
>> sins of lust, fornications, adultry, etc.
>
> Adultery is not like the others for the others are not a breaking of a
> contract. Apples to oranges. For your claim regarding the others -
> got any proof? How about any evidence aside from a book told you so?
David Stern, a Jewish translator of God's Word, translated "fornication"
in Revelation 22 as "homosexuality" into German. Go figure.
>
>> Neither does the vile
>> affections of sodomy get a pass.
>
> You have a nice house of cards made out of human constructs.
No, he has God's Word. We are not alone, but God is always behind us -
can you not see Him? That is bad for you. You simply have your stomach
for your judgements...
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In My Fathers House
[...]
> Correct. She's a shameless liar and has been promoting the
> false, damnable gospel of unrepentant homosexual salvation in here.
It's so false and so damnable that when someone asks you ~how~ one can
repent of being what they are you have no useful answer so you fall
back into your standard insulting spam. You wish that sexual
orientation was a behavior rather than an impulse. You can pretend
that your denial undoes the reality of what millions of people
experience. Can you figure out why you are not taken seriously?
(<<Kelly>>)
wrote:
> Is God's Word not enough evidence for you in a Christian newsgroup? If
> you need medical "evidence", you should go to a medicine group. Ted is
> right about his claims from a Christian point of view.
You might want to make sure your English skills are in order before
you try to make a comment about something you obviously don't even
understand. Ted made a reference to "inbreeding" Do you know what
"inbreeding" is? You might want to look it up before commenting on
House's statement again and looking like an idiot.
> If you hate the
> Christian point of view, you are free to listen to people with other
> point of views. Just go to your favorite group - or wherever you came
> from - I suppose it was a group for homosexuals, right?
You're still looking pretty stupid, Vera...
> >> . . . God still calls it an
> >> abomination.
> > Aside from a heavily edited book do you have any evidence for that?
> It is not our fault that you do not accept God's Word as your standard.
And continuing to look stupid...
> > Some book told you.
> Not some book - God's Word. But there is obviously no difference for
> you.
More stupidity from Vera...
> >> And God didn't create them that way, that's our
> >> corrupted depraved state to which he gives us over for the sins of
> >> rejecting Him (Romans 1:26).
> > Circular reasoning is a fallacy.
> So better stop it.
No...that would be you who needs to "stop it" (stop responding to
things you don't get, Nutsy)
> > LOL- some book told you. The book
> > must be right because it told you it was.
> Nah, God's Word told him - and God has told me the same, go figure.
Like you were "told" what "inbred" means...? I suppose you're going
to claim the Holy Spirit told you to say what you did in this post,
right, Vera?
> >> Having normal desires doesn't justify
> >> sins of lust, fornications, adultry, etc.
> > Adultery is not like the others for the others are not a breaking of a
> > contract. Apples to oranges. For your claim regarding the others -
> > got any proof? How about any evidence aside from a book told you so?
> David Stern, a Jewish translator of God's Word,
David Stern is a Messianic Jew, Vera, who wrote the "Complete Jewish
Bible" - which is a paraphrase based on both the Old and New
Testaments and Jewish and Christian principles. He's not a
translator.
> translated "fornication"
> in Revelation 22 as "homosexuality" into German. Go figure.
Really? Prove it.
> >> Neither does the vile
> >> affections of sodomy get a pass.
> > You have a nice house of cards made out of human constructs.
> No, he has God's Word.
Except Ted didn't use God's Word when he chose the improper use of the
word, "inbred", Vera. So how do you explain that?
> We are not alone, but God is always behind us -
> can you not see Him? That is bad for you. You simply have your stomach
> for your judgements...
You asked if House can see God and then answered the question for
him. Why ask the question if you already know your version of the
answer? What's more, no one on earth has seen God, Vera. But I'm not
surprised that you would say something so stupid - after all...you
claim that praying to Mary is okay and that you talk to the dead.
Randy ®
( <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You might want to make sure your English skills are in order before
> you try to make a comment about something you obviously don't even
> understand. Ted made a reference to "inbreeding" Do you know what
> "inbreeding" is? You might want to look it up before commenting on
> House's statement again and looking like an idiot.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NASB
(9) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
(10) nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers,
nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 John 3:7-8 NASB
(7) Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who
practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;
(8) the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has
sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this
purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:18:20 -0700 (PDT),
In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article
<411f947c-259b-4b02...@y4g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Subject: Re: Self Defense
<<k�ll�>> <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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I *am* gay and have never said I stopped being gay
**************************************************************
On 7 Jan 2007 18:38:14 -0800,
In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article <1168223894.3...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
Subject: Re: RANDY "PULPITFIRE" YOUNG...WHY DID YOU SAY THAT???
"*IKnowThatIAmAWhosoeverToo*" <onthe...@verizon.net> wrote:
**************************************************************
I am a lesbian
**************************************************************
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:17:55 -0700 (PDT),
In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article
<983eeea0-7d26-4811...@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com>,
Subject: Re: Avoiding Self-righteousness A Sinful Woman Forgiven
"3Wh�s�ever3" <onthe...@verizon.net> wrote:
**************************************************************
I never said a word about my homosexuality in these groups
until you thought you had the right to "expose" me.
**************************************************************
--
Randy ®
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 1, 7:09 pm, Randy �<pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>> > Correct. She's a shameless liar and has been promoting the
>> > false, damnable gospel of unrepentant homosexual salvation in here.
> It's so false and so damnable that when someone asks you ~how~ one can
> repent of being what they are you have no useful answer so you fall
> back into your standard insulting spam.
Liar. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God
(Romans 10:17). Oh wait...that's right. You spend all day
trying to undermine what God said, so you're undermining the
basis for homosexuals to have faith and repents. Go start your
own cult and leave christianity alone, heretic.
In My Fathers House
> b6098e2c-7229-419c-b904-f2f6c9395...@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com
>
> > On Nov 1, 8:18 pm, Ted L <spamtaddl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> >>> Now, it's a pretty stupid god
> >>> who supposedly detests homosexuality while creating about 10% of
> >>> the human race that way!
>
> >> Regardless of their inbred desires . . .
>
> > Do you have evidence that homosexuality is caused by inbreeding or did
> > you just spread false information in order to slur?
>
> Is God's Word not enough evidence for you in a Christian newsgroup?
That depends. Do you mean the actual, objective, voice of God or do
you mean Late-Imperial-Rome's-Word-About-God which has been called
"the Word of God" despite the fact that hundreds or perhaps thousands
of men wrote and edited it? If God were to actually speak on this
matter it would be settled.
Now with that said can you even show a place in the Bible that claims
homosexuality is caused by inbreeding?
> If
> you need medical "evidence", you should go to a medicine group.
Poor Vendetta can't kick people out of her newsgroup. What kind of a
bully are you if you can't send people away?
> Ted is
> right about his claims from a Christian point of view.
What the heck? Does the meaning of "inbred" change from a Christian
point of view? And just why would God turn an innocent child into a
sinful abomination due to his or her parents' sin? That is a mean
thing for you to imply about God.
> If you hate the
> Christian point of view, you are free to listen to people with other
> point of views.
Wow, you would have us believe that one point of view represents
nearly a billion people. That is silly. Of course there are
Christians with a wide range of views on this topic.
> Just go to your favorite group -
I already did.
> . . . or wherever you came
> from - I suppose it was a group for homosexuals, right?
Is that what you think of Alt Christnet Christianlife?
> >> . . . God still calls it an
> >> abomination.
>
> > Aside from a heavily edited book do you have any evidence for that?
>
> It is not our fault that you do not accept God's Word as your standard.
I find it strange that you keep changing the subject. Where did you
establish that the Bible is 100% from God? Oh, you just assume it,
don't you?
> > Some book told you.
>
> Not some book - God's Word.
Proof?
> But there is obviously no difference for
> you.
I find some parts of the Bible to be very edifying, uplifting and even
transcending human nature to the point where I'm not sure we didn't
get divine help. However clearly other parts are filled with
contradiction which cannot be resolved. A perfect example is that we
are commanded to love everyone, we are commanded to detest homosexuals
and detest is the opposite of love. => <=
Either we were created by someone who plays horrible games on us or at
least part of it is wrong.
> >> And God didn't create them that way, that's our
> >> corrupted depraved state to which he gives us over for the sins of
> >> rejecting Him (Romans 1:26).
>
> > Circular reasoning is a fallacy.
>
> So better stop it.
Where did I use circular reasoning? Do tell. Otherwise your claim
fails for lack of evidence.
> > LOL- some book told you. The book
> > must be right because it told you it was.
>
> Nah, God's Word told him - and God has told me the same, go figure.
You had a subjective, emotional reaction after reading a certain
book. And you are certain that this is right and true and the
subjective, emotional reactions that Muslims, Mormons, Catholics and
Jehovah Witnesses have after reading certain different books are
misguided even though they are just as certain that God told them.
If you had been raised in a different culture you would probably
follow a different religion just as strongly at you follow your
religion today. Since they all seem to have the same reaction how do
we know which book is the one and only "Word of God"?
You have fallen into the quicksand of circular reasoning.
> >> Having normal desires doesn't justify
> >> sins of lust, fornications, adultry, etc.
>
> > Adultery is not like the others for the others are not a breaking of a
> > contract. Apples to oranges. For your claim regarding the others -
> > got any proof? How about any evidence aside from a book told you so?
>
> David Stern, a Jewish translator of God's Word, translated "fornication"
> in Revelation 22 as "homosexuality" into German. Go figure.
That's great and all but do you have any evidence aside from the Book?
> >> Neither does the vile
> >> affections of sodomy get a pass.
>
> > You have a nice house of cards made out of human constructs.
>
> No, he has God's Word.
According to humans. How do we know it's God's word? Cuz some guy
told me so. How did he know? Cuz some guy told him so. No wait, he
read it in the book. The book told him that he could trust it. And
if he had read a different book then he would have to believe whatever
it said instead - right?
> We are not alone, but God is always behind us -
> can you not see Him? That is bad for you. You simply have your stomach
> for your judgements...
So to sum up you have no proof except you have a book that tells you
to hate people and the book tells you that it is the word of God so it
must be right?
God gave us a brain so that we would not be fooled by men who would
use God's name for their own agenda. Use it! If the book makes God
look evil or insane then side with God. You had better hope we were
not created by an insane and/or evil deity or else we are all doomed
anyway.
In My Fathers House
>
> > On Nov 1, 7:09 pm, Randy ®<pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > [...]
> >> > Correct. She's a shameless liar and has been promoting the
> >> > false, damnable gospel of unrepentant homosexual salvation in here.
> > It's so false and so damnable that when someone asks you ~how~ one can
> > repent of being what they are you have no useful answer so you fall
> > back into your standard insulting spam.
>
> Liar. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God
> (Romans 10:17). Oh wait...that's right. You spend all day
> trying to undermine what God said, so you're undermining the
> basis for homosexuals to have faith and repents. Go start your
> own cult and leave christianity alone, heretic.
So when I point out that you must fall back into your standard
insulting spam you respond with your standard "Liar. Faith
comes . . . undermine what God said . . . heretic" spam.
You must have used these lines at least a dozen times already. I note
you did not explain how someone can repent of their sexual
orientation, which is an impulse and not a behavior. It's so wrong
and so false and so damnable that you have no explanation for how
someone is suppose to do the right thing.
In My Fathers House
> > You might want to make sure your English skills are in order before
> > you try to make a comment about something you obviously don't even
> > understand. Ted made a reference to "inbreeding" Do you know what
> > "inbreeding" is? You might want to look it up before commenting on
> > House's statement again and looking like an idiot.
>
> 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NASB
Does not say that homosexuality is the result of inbreeding. Is part
of your standard insulting spam.
> 1 John 3:7-8 NASB
Same thing.
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:18:20 -0700 (PDT),
> In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
> Article
> <411f947c-259b-4b02-9502-a38f0dd29...@y4g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> Subject: Re: Self Defense
And again, part of your standard spam but doesn't address the inbred-
gay issue.
> On 7 Jan 2007 18:38:14 -0800,
> In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
> Article <1168223894.321030.204...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
And again. Standard spam but doesn't deal with the issue.
>
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:17:55 -0700 (PDT),
> In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
> Article
> <983eeea0-7d26-4811-8cd3-6a52b0f1b...@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com>,
Same problem.
> On 21 Jul 2006 11:18:48 -0700,
> in article
> <1153505928.341106.75...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
Ditto
> On 29 Jul 2006 23:25:00 -0700,
> in article
> <1154240700.178700.306...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> "3Whösöever3" <ontheska...@verizon.net> wrote:
And once more. You could offer not a single drop of anything useful
on the gay-inbred question. But you did repeat your insulting spam as
if you had no choice - just like I pointed out you would. Perhaps you
only do it to make me look good?
::: Jesus is LORD :::
OJGdnc5PhcfM_nPX...@giganews.com
> On Sun, 11/01/09, at 10:35:21PM,
> In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And now for a question from me:
>> Aside from what a ~book~
>
>
> Why do you say, "aside" from any book? Faith comes by hearing,
> and hearing by the word of God (Romans 10:17). Why are you
> trying to turn people aside from God's word?
>
>
>> told you to think about them do you have any
>> complaint against homosexuals?
>
>
> The question is, why do you have a complaint against God being
> holy and righteous? Why don't you go start your own cult, where
> you worship an unholy god who embraces abomination and sin, and
> the blood atonement of Christ isn't necessary, because nothing is
> wrong, instead of trying to pervert, pollute, and corrupt
> Christianity day and night?
That is a great idea. I would not mind if he did that.
::: Jesus is LORD :::
yJWdnUeH6ZM693PX...@giganews.com
> On Sun, 11/01/09, at 11:03:53PM,
> In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 1, 7:09 pm, Randy �<pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>>> Correct. She's a shameless liar and has been promoting the
>>>> false, damnable gospel of unrepentant homosexual salvation in
>>>> here.
>> It's so false and so damnable that when someone asks you ~how~ one
>> can repent of being what they are you have no useful answer so you
>> fall back into your standard insulting spam.
>
>
> Liar. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God
> (Romans 10:17). Oh wait...that's right. You spend all day
> trying to undermine what God said, so you're undermining the
> basis for homosexuals to have faith and repents. Go start your
> own cult and leave christianity alone, heretic.
Correct.
(<<Kelly>>)
wrote:
> > Randy ® pulpitf...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > The question is, why do you have a complaint against God being
> > holy and righteous? Why don't you go start your own cult, where
> > you worship an unholy god who embraces abomination and sin, and
> > the blood atonement of Christ isn't necessary, because nothing is
> > wrong, instead of trying to pervert, pollute, and corrupt
> > Christianity day and night?
> That is a great idea. I would not mind if he did that.
A "great idea"? You wouldn't mind if someone walked away from the
Lord and started a cult where they could influence others away from
the Lord Jesus Christ?
You're no Christian, Vera - you just pretend to be one so you can work
for your father, Satan.
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
Barry OGrady
God is Satan's father so stop ter blasphemy.
=-=-=
Barry
See the website Gladys hates
Find out why she fears it so
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Randy ®
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 1, 9:14 pm, Randy �<pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Sun, 11/01/09, at 11:03:53PM,
>> > In My Fathers House<hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>>> > > On Nov 1, 7:09 pm, Randy �<pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>>> > > [...]
>>>>> > >> > Correct. She's a shameless liar and has been promoting the
>>>>> > >> > false, damnable gospel of unrepentant homosexual salvation in here.
>>> > > It's so false and so damnable that when someone asks you ~how~ one can
>>> > > repent of being what they are you have no useful answer so you fall
>>> > > back into your standard insulting spam.
>> >
>> > Liar. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God
>> > (Romans 10:17). Oh wait...that's right. You spend all day
>> > trying to undermine what God said, so you're undermining the
>> > basis for homosexuals to have faith and repents. Go start your
>> > own cult and leave christianity alone, heretic.
> So when I point out that you must fall back into your standard
> insulting spam you respond with your standard "Liar. Faith
> comes . . . undermine what God said . . . heretic" spam.
Once again, the Satanic sock-puppet spams his lies about the word
of God. The Bible is the word of God, and says faith comes by
hearing the word of God (Romans 10:17). "Yea, hath God said?",
has been the Satanic lie from the beginning:
Genesis 3:1 KJV
(1) Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field
which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea,
hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Randy ®
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I find it strange that you keep changing the subject. Where did you
> establish that the Bible is 100% from God? Oh, you just assume it,
> don't you?
Once again, the Satanic sock-puppet continues his attack on the
word of God. "Yea, hath God said" has been the preferred lie of
Satan since the beginning:
Genesis 3:1 KJV
(1) Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field
which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea,
hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Meanwhile, homosexuality is an abuse in every way, shape, and form:
a·buse
1. to use wrongly or improperly...
2. to treat in a harmful, injurious, or offensive way...
(Dictionary.com)
To abuse something means to use it in a manner for which it was
not designed, or in a harmful or injurious way. Homosexuality,
and promoting the false gospel that unrepentant homosexuals will
inherit eternal life, is clearly abuse.
1) Homosexuality is an abuse of God's natural design for sexual
relations:
Romans 1:24-27 NASB
(24) Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts
to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.
(25) For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and
worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is
blessed forever. Amen.
(26) For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions;
for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is
unnatural,
(27) and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural
function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one
another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in
their own persons the due penalty of their error.
God's word says the natural function God designed is for
male/female sexual desires and relations. Same sex relations are
called "unnatural". Homosexuality, is therefor an abuse of
sexual relationships.
2) Homosexuality is an abuse of men's bodies:
The above verses also note that to practice homosexuality is to
"dishonor" one's own body. The consequence is often that the
homosexual receives "in their own person the due penalty of their
error". Many homosexuals die of aids and other illnesses,
brought about by their immoral lifestyle. Homosexuality is
clearly a degrading, dishonoring, and abuse of one's own body.
3) Homosexuality is an abuse of men's souls:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NASB
(9) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
(10) nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers,
nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
Ephesians 5:3-5 NIV
(3) But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual
immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because
these are improper for God's holy people.
(4) Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse
joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.
(5) For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy
person—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the
kingdom of Christ and of God.
1 John 3:7-8 NASB
(7) Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who
practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;
(8) the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has
sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this
purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
These passages clearly state that we should not be deceived! No
one who practices unrepentant homosexuality, immorality, or any
kind of impurity, will inherit the kingdom of God!
If someone tries to justify homosexuality, and preaches you can
go to heaven while remaining an unrepentant homosexual, that
person is promoting a gospel that will result in men's eternal
damnation! We are instructed not to be deceived about that,
because such people will not inherit the kingdom of God!
Homosexuality is abuse, because it results in the eternal
damnation of those who refuse to repent and accept Christ's
atonement for it.
4) Homosexuality is an abuse of men's faith:
These passages above say not to be "deceived" about the
consequences of homosexuality. To "deceive" means to lead men
astray. God did not design or intend for men to be led astray
from the truth. Those who are deceived about homosexuality, are
in danger of failing to inherit the kingdom of God. "Do not be
deceived". No homosexual or immoral person will inherit the
kingdom of God.
Someone who tries to lead men astray from the truth of
Scriptures, is abusing men's faith.
It is indisputable that homosexuality is sexual immorality, and
that failure to repent will result in eternal damnation.
Homosexuality, is therefore an abuse of God's design for sexual
relations, men's bodies, men's souls, and of men's faith in
Scripture.
Randy ®
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 1, 9:12 pm, Randy ®<pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Sun, 11/01/09, at 11:05:27PM,
>> >
>> > (<rosiebelleatrocketmail....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > You might want to make sure your English skills are in order before
>>> > > you try to make a comment about something you obviously don't even
>>> > > understand. Ted made a reference to "inbreeding" Do you know what
>>> > > "inbreeding" is? You might want to look it up before commenting on
>>> > > House's statement again and looking like an idiot.
>> >
>> > 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NASB
> Does not say that homosexuality is the result of inbreeding. Is part
> of your standard insulting spam.
Why do you try to distract people from the fact the Bible teaches
that unrepentant homosexuality is abuse that results in eternal
damnation?
a·buse
1. to use wrongly or improperly...
2. to treat in a harmful, injurious, or offensive way: to abuse a
horse; to abuse one's eyesight...
(Dictionary.com)
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NASB
(9) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
(10) nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers,
nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
Ephesians 5:3-5 NIV
(3) But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual
immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because
these are improper for God's holy people.
(4) Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse
joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.
(5) For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy
person—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the
kingdom of Christ and of God.
1 John 3:7-8 NASB
(7) Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who
practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;
(8) the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has
sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this
purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
These passages clearly state that we should not be deceived! No
one who practices unrepentant homosexuality, immorality, or any
kind of impurity, will inherit the kingdom of God!
If someone tries to justify homosexuality, and preaches you can
go to heaven while remaining an unrepentant homosexual, that
person is promoting a gospel that will result in men's eternal
damnation! We are instructed not to be deceived about that,
because such people will not inherit the kingdom of God!
Homosexuality is abuse, because it results in the eternal
damnation of those who refuse to repent and accept Christ's
atonement for it.
4) Homosexuality is an abuse of men's faith:
These passages above say not to be "deceived" about the
consequences of homosexuality. To "deceive" means to lead men
astray. God did not design or intend for men to be led astray
from the truth. Those who are deceived about homosexuality, are
in danger of failing to inherit the kingdom of God. "Do not be
deceived". No homosexual or immoral person will inherit the
kingdom of God.
Someone who tries to lead men astray from the truth of
Scriptures, is abusing men's faith.
It is indisputable that homosexuality is sexual immorality, and
that failure to repent will result in eternal damnation.
Homosexuality, is therefore an abuse of God's design for sexual
relations, men's bodies, men's souls, and of men's faith in
Scripture.
--
In My Fathers House
>
> > I find it strange that you keep changing the subject. Where did you
> > establish that the Bible is 100% from God? Oh, you just assume it,
> > don't you?
>
> Once again, the Satanic sock-puppet continues his attack on the
> word of God. "Yea, hath God said" has been the preferred lie of
> Satan since the beginning:
If I were wrong you would show me where you established this as fact.
Instead you attack people for asking the question. It's something
only those who are wrong (but won't admit it) need to do.
> Genesis 3:1 KJV
> (1) Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field
> which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea,
> hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
>
> Meanwhile, homosexuality is an abuse in every way, shape, and form:
>
> a·buse
> 1. to use wrongly or improperly...
> 2. to treat in a harmful, injurious, or offensive way...
> (Dictionary.com) [...]
That doesn't fit an orientation. It's an impulse and not something
people directly control. Look why don't you use the Bible to do
good? Let it inspire you to feed the homeless or protect minorities.
Do what most Christians do and discount the bad parts as being "the
Old Covenant" and no longer relevant. There is much good in the Bible
and you could focus on that to do good. There is nothing wrong with
using the Bible to do good. Try that instead.
Randy ®
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Genesis 3:1 KJV
>> > (1) Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field
>> > which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea,
>> > hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
>> >
>> > Meanwhile, homosexuality is an abuse in every way, shape, and form:
>> >
>> > a·buse
>> > 1. to use wrongly or improperly...
>> > 2. to treat in a harmful, injurious, or offensive way...
>> > (Dictionary.com) [...]
> That doesn't fit an orientation. It's an impulse and not something
> people directly control. Look why don't you use the Bible to do
> good? Let it inspire you to feed the homeless or protect minorities.
> Do what most Christians do and discount the bad parts as being "the
> Old Covenant" and no longer relevant. There is much good in the Bible
> and you could focus on that to do good. There is nothing wrong with
> using the Bible to do good. Try that instead.
Promoting doubt about the word of God, which is the means by
which God saves homosexuals, is not you doing anyone any good.
Rather, it's you, as a sock-puppet of Satan, attacking God's
declared way of bringing them salvation and repentance.
In My Fathers House
>
> > On Nov 1, 9:12 pm, Randy ®<pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 11/01/09, at 11:05:27PM,
>
> >> > (<rosiebelleatrocketmail....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > > You might want to make sure your English skills are in order before
> >>> > > you try to make a comment about something you obviously don't even
> >>> > > understand. Ted made a reference to "inbreeding" Do you know what
> >>> > > "inbreeding" is? You might want to look it up before commenting on
> >>> > > House's statement again and looking like an idiot.
>
> >> > 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NASB
> > Does not say that homosexuality is the result of inbreeding. Is part
> > of your standard insulting spam.
>
> Why do you try to distract people from the fact the Bible teaches
> that unrepentant homosexuality is abuse that results in eternal
> damnation?
I don't. Why do you continue to use the loaded question fallacy? It
makes you look stupid to ask questions about things that never
happened.
The question was: Aside from the Bible is there evidence that
homosexuality is caused by inbreeding? It seems that this was a
baseless claim made in order to slur a minority. I notice just as
predicted you could not address the question and resorted to repeating
your insulting spam. I also made note of the fact that your spam had
nothing to do with the issue.
> a·buse
> 1. to use wrongly or improperly...
> 2. to treat in a harmful, injurious, or offensive way: to abuse a
> horse; to abuse one's eyesight...
> (Dictionary.com)
And it does not apply to an orientation which is an impulse which
people don't have direct control over. Orientation is not "use" or
"treat".
[snip of the same spam you have sent dozens or perhaps hundreds of
times]
We get that you hate a minority even though the good parts of the
Bible command you to love those people.
In My Fathers House
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 1, 9:14 pm, Randy ®<pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 11/01/09, at 11:03:53PM,
> >> > In My Fathers House<hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> > > On Nov 1, 7:09 pm, Randy ®<pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> > > [...]
> >>>>> > >> > Correct. She's a shameless liar and has been promoting the
> >>>>> > >> > false, damnable gospel of unrepentant homosexual salvation in here.
> >>> > > It's so false and so damnable that when someone asks you ~how~ one can
> >>> > > repent of being what they are you have no useful answer so you fall
> >>> > > back into your standard insulting spam.
>
> >> > Liar. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God
> >> > (Romans 10:17). Oh wait...that's right. You spend all day
> >> > trying to undermine what God said, so you're undermining the
> >> > basis for homosexuals to have faith and repents. Go start your
> >> > own cult and leave christianity alone, heretic.
> > So when I point out that you must fall back into your standard
> > insulting spam you respond with your standard "Liar. Faith
> > comes . . . undermine what God said . . . heretic" spam.
>
> Once again, the Satanic sock-puppet spams his lies about the word
> of God. The Bible is the word of God, and says faith comes by
> hearing the word of God (Romans 10:17). "Yea, hath God said?",
> has been the Satanic lie from the beginning:
Your words are not the word of God. Look if this is just going to
shout me down with your spam you can count me out. I can't keep up
with your posting volume. I raised issues and you covered them up
rather than address them.
Randy ®
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> And it does not apply to an orientation which is an impulse which
> people don't have direct control over. Orientation is not "use" or
> "treat".
Nothing more than your Satanically inspired rationalization which
you think you're perceiving about reality. Your lies clearly
contradict what the Bible teaches.
> [snip of the same spam you have sent dozens or perhaps hundreds of
> times]
>
> We get that you hate a minority even though the good parts of the
> Bible command you to love those people.
You're the one who hates homosexuals, since the Bible says
unrepentant homosexuals will not inherit eternal life, and that
faith comes by hearing God's word. You attacking and trying to
undermine the means by which God saves homosexuals is your hatred
for them and God, you hypocritical liar.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NASB
(9) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
(10) nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers,
nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 John 3:7-8 NASB
(7) Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who
practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;
(8) the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has
sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this
purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
--
In My Fathers House
>
> > And it does not apply to an orientation which is an impulse which
> > people don't have direct control over. Orientation is not "use" or
> > "treat".
>
> Nothing more than your Satanically inspired rationalization which
> you think you're perceiving about reality. Your lies clearly
> contradict what the Bible teaches.
The question was: Aside from the Bible is there evidence that
homosexuality is caused by inbreeding? It seems that this was a
baseless claim made in order to slur a minority. I notice just as
predicted you could not address the question and resorted to repeating
your insulting spam. I also made note of the fact that your spam had
nothing to do with the issue.
I can't keep up with your posting volume so you just spam away.
Randy ®
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Once again, the Satanic sock-puppet spams his lies about the word
>> > of God. The Bible is the word of God, and says faith comes by
>> > hearing the word of God (Romans 10:17). "Yea, hath God said?",
>> > has been the Satanic lie from the beginning:
> Your words are not the word of God. Look if this is just going to
> shout me down with your spam you can count me out. I can't keep up
> with your posting volume. I raised issues and you covered them up
> rather than address them.
>
Puke off Satanic liar. You haven't refuted any proposed
interpretation, or even attempted to demonstrate the text
actually means something else. If so, produce it. In the
meanwhile calling Scripture you can't refute "spam" proves
nothing, as does your black-hole subjective perceptions of "reality".
a·buse
1. to use wrongly or improperly...
2. to treat in a harmful, injurious, or offensive way: to abuse a
horse; to abuse one's eyesight...
(Dictionary.com)
To abuse something means to use it in a manner for which it was
not designed, or in a harmful or injurious way. Homosexuality,
and promoting the false gospel that unrepentant homosexuals will
inherit eternal life, is clearly abuse.
1) Homosexuality is an abuse of God's natural design for sexual
relations:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NASB
(9) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
(10) nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers,
nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
Ephesians 5:3-5 NIV
(3) But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual
immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because
these are improper for God's holy people.
(4) Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse
joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.
(5) For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy
person—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the
kingdom of Christ and of God.
1 John 3:7-8 NASB
(7) Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who
practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;
(8) the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has
sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this
purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
These passages clearly state that we should not be deceived! No
one who practices unrepentant homosexuality, immorality, or any
kind of impurity, will inherit the kingdom of God!
If someone tries to justify homosexuality, and preaches you can
go to heaven while remaining an unrepentant homosexual, that
person is promoting a gospel that will result in men's eternal
damnation! We are instructed not to be deceived about that,
because such people will not inherit the kingdom of God!
Homosexuality is abuse, because it results in the eternal
damnation of those who refuse to repent and accept Christ's
atonement for it.
4) Homosexuality is an abuse of men's faith:
These passages above say not to be "deceived" about the
consequences of homosexuality. To "deceive" means to lead men
astray. God did not design or intend for men to be led astray
from the truth. Those who are deceived about homosexuality, are
in danger of failing to inherit the kingdom of God. "Do not be
deceived". No homosexual or immoral person will inherit the
kingdom of God.
Someone who tries to lead men astray from the truth of
Scriptures, is abusing men's faith.
It is indisputable that homosexuality is sexual immorality, and
that failure to repent will result in eternal damnation.
Homosexuality, is therefore an abuse of God's design for sexual
relations, men's bodies, men's souls, and of men's faith in
Scripture.
--
Randy ®
In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Calling Scripture you can't refute "spam", doesn't cover your
lies, or make your Satanically inspired, black-hole perception of
reality an authority on par with Scripture:
In My Fathers House
[...]
> > I raised issues and you covered them up
> > rather than address them.
>
> Puke off Satanic liar.
It's too bad you don't have the guts to say what you mean by that.
> You haven't refuted any proposed
> interpretation, or even attempted to demonstrate the text
> actually means something else.
I don't need to do that. If some Mayan tablet tells us that we have
to murder someone to please the gods I don't have to demonstrate that
this interpretation is incorrect. It has not been established that
the tablet is the word of God. First you need to prove your claim
that something is the word of God. And if you did that why would I
want to claim the interpretation is wrong?
> If so, produce it. In the
> meanwhile calling Scripture you can't refute "spam" proves
> nothing, as does your black-hole subjective perceptions of "reality".
I didn't call scripture spam. I called your repetitive posts 'spam'.
It's not my fault that you put scripture in them. Your spam post
contain the letter "e" but that fact does not make the letter "e" spam
either. It is your use that is the spam. Your words are not
scripture and your perceptions are just as subjective. Next time
learn what subjective means ~before~ you make a fool of yourself.
Now do you have anything new to offer? If you are just going to shout
me down with spam I will not try to keep up. I can't match your
posting volume and you don't realize that shouting down is a tactic of
losers.
In My Fathers House
[...]
> > I can't keep up with your posting volume so you just spam away.
>
I don't. Based on your title does that make little old me "Satan"?
> . . . doesn't cover your
> lies, or make your Satanically inspired, black-hole perception of
> reality an authority on par with Scripture:
The Bible does not post to usenet. It is not the items you use that
are spam. It is ~your usage~ which is the spam: your words, your
choices, your repetition. The Bible doesn't do any of that. Don't
blame the Bible for your spam.
Now I believe you were in the middle of shouting me down because that
is what losers do. Proceed.
::: Jesus is LORD :::
rPKdndOYa64KTXPX...@giganews.com
Correct. This is exactly the Scriptural view, and Christians do not care
what the world says about it. We want to overcome ouir sinful nature.
Homosexuals can do as they please, believe whatever they please, but
they can never change God's Word to their liking and expect an ok for
their sins from God.
(<<Kelly>>)
> On Nov 2, 6:19 am, Randy ® <pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 11/02/09, at 8:10:30AM,
> > In My Fathers House <hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> > > I raised issues and you covered them up
> > > rather than address them.
>
> > Puke off Satanic liar.
>
> It's too bad you don't have the guts to say what you mean by that.
Randy and Vera both have used veiled euphemisms for the 'F'-word.
They won't use the real thing here, but I would be willing to bet they
use it IRL.
Hypocrites.
> > You haven't refuted any proposed
> > interpretation, or even attempted to demonstrate the text
> > actually means something else.
> I don't need to do that. If some Mayan tablet tells us that we have
> to murder someone to please the gods I don't have to demonstrate that
> this interpretation is incorrect. It has not been established that
> the tablet is the word of God. First you need to prove your claim
> that something is the word of God. And if you did that why would I
> want to claim the interpretation is wrong?
> > If so, produce it. In the
> > meanwhile calling Scripture you can't refute "spam" proves
> > nothing, as does your black-hole subjective perceptions of "reality".
> I didn't call scripture spam. I called your repetitive posts 'spam'.
> It's not my fault that you put scripture in them. Your spam post
> contain the letter "e" but that fact does not make the letter "e" spam
> either. It is your use that is the spam. Your words are not
> scripture and your perceptions are just as subjective. Next time
> learn what subjective means ~before~ you make a fool of yourself.
You're using deductive reasoning. IOW, now you've lost him... ;-)
> Now do you have anything new to offer? If you are just going to shout
> me down with spam I will not try to keep up. I can't match your
> posting volume and you don't realize that shouting down is a tactic of
> losers.
Report him for spamming.
(<<Kelly>>)
wrote:
> Randy ® pulpitf...@gmail.com wrote in
> rPKdndOYa64KTXPXnZ2dnUVZ_qBi4...@giganews.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 11/01/09, at 11:49:46PM,
So now, not only believing you are "God's right hand", you think you
are now the spokesperson for all Christians? Did the long-deceased
Apostle Paul give you that title while you were talking to him today?
(or was it John and Peter? ;-)
> We want to overcome ouir sinful nature.
Apparently, you don't try very hard to do that.
> Homosexuals can do as they please, believe whatever they please, but
> they can never change God's Word to their liking and expect an ok for
> their sins from God.
How about we change the above to fit you (you are the only person
who's life and behavior you should be concerned with, anyway, Vera)
"Liars like Vera can do as they please, believe whatever they please,
but Vera can never change God's Word to her liking and expect an ok
for her sins from God".
Yeah, that's better.
The Doctor
CB <count...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:46:36 -0800 (PST), "(<<Kelly>>)"
><rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Nov 1, 3:28�pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>>
>>> REad LEviticus thoroughly!
>>
>>Been there, done that, done it several times more - it still doesn't
>>say what you apparently think it does.
>
>Gee, you're dumb!!
>
>--
>From my smitten heart, with tears two wonders I confess:
>The wonders of His glorious love, And my own worthlessness.
>
>Content to let the world go by, to know no gain nor loss,
>My sinful self my only shame, my glory all the cross!
Atheists be default are.
--
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Ted L
<rosiebelleatrocketmail....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 1, 8:55 pm, " ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <jesus-is-l...@lycos.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Is God's Word not enough evidence for you in a Christian newsgroup? If
> > you need medical "evidence", you should go to a medicine group. Ted is
> > right about his claims from a Christian point of view.
>
> You might want to make sure your English skills are in order before
> you try to make a comment about something you obviously don't even
> understand. Ted made a reference to "inbreeding" Do you know what
> "inbreeding" is? You might want to look it up before commenting on
> House's statement again and looking like an idiot.
>
> > Christian point of view, you are free to listen to people with other
> > point of views. Just go to your favorite group - or wherever you came
> > from - I suppose it was a group for homosexuals, right?
>
> You're still looking pretty stupid, Vera...
>
> > >> . . . God still calls it an
> > >> abomination.
> > > Aside from a heavily edited book do you have any evidence for that?
> > It is not our fault that you do not accept God's Word as your standard.
>
> And continuing to look stupid...
>
> > > Some book told you.
> > Not some book - God's Word. But there is obviously no difference for
> > you.
>
> More stupidity from Vera...
>
> > >> And God didn't create them that way, that's our
> > >> corrupted depraved state to which he gives us over for the sins of
> > >> rejecting Him (Romans 1:26).
> > > Circular reasoning is a fallacy.
> > So better stop it.
>
> No...that would be you who needs to "stop it" (stop responding to
> things you don't get, Nutsy)
>
> > > LOL- some book told you. The book
> > > must be right because it told you it was.
> > Nah, God's Word told him - and God has told me the same, go figure.
>
> Like you were "told" what "inbred" means...? I suppose you're going
> to claim the Holy Spirit told you to say what you did in this post,
> right, Vera?
>
> > >> Having normal desires doesn't justify
> > >> sins of lust, fornications, adultry, etc.
> > > Adultery is not like the others for the others are not a breaking of a
> > > contract. Apples to oranges. For your claim regarding the others -
> > > got any proof? How about any evidence aside from a book told you so?
> > David Stern, a Jewish translator of God's Word,
>
> David Stern is a Messianic Jew, Vera, who wrote the "Complete Jewish
> Bible" - which is a paraphrase based on both the Old and New
> Testaments and Jewish and Christian principles. He's not a
> translator.
>
> > translated "fornication"
> > in Revelation 22 as "homosexuality" into German. Go figure.
>
> Really? Prove it.
>
> > >> Neither does the vile
> > >> affections of sodomy get a pass.
> > > You have a nice house of cards made out of human constructs.
> > No, he has God's Word.
>
> Except Ted didn't use God's Word when he chose the improper use of the
> word, "inbred", Vera. So how do you explain that?
>
> > We are not alone, but God is always behind us -
> > can you not see Him? That is bad for you. You simply have your stomach
> > for your judgements...
>
> You asked if House can see God and then answered the question for
> him. Why ask the question if you already know your version of the
> answer? What's more, no one on earth has seen God, Vera. But I'm not
> surprised that you would say something so stupid - after all...you
> claim that praying to Mary is okay and that you talk to the dead.
Sometimes words have more than one definition. For example, "inbred"
can mean resulting from or involved in inbreeding", OR "naturally
inherent; innate; native: her inbred grace." It depends on what is
called the "context" in which it is used.
Interestingly enough, "context" has more than one meaning depending on
"the parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow"
the word, and not just to mean the fleshy fibrous body of the pileus
in mushrooms. I expect there's plenty of those growing in the places
you reside which probably makes you more familiar with the latter
definition.
(<<Kelly>>)
> Sometimes words have more than one definition. For example, "inbred"
> can mean resulting from or involved in inbreeding", OR "naturally
> inherent; innate; native: her inbred grace." It depends on what is
> called the "context" in which it is used.
Nice try at a diversion, but from what you originally said to what you
are saying above, it's obvious you are lying above about what you
meant originally by "inbred". Your statement was, "Regardless of
their inbred desires, God still calls it an abomination. And God
didn't create them that way..."
Sorry, Teddy, but you can't have it both ways. Either you meant
"inbred" as in God creating them that way or you meant "inbred" as in
an insult to their genetic makeup, caused by inbreeding. Since you
qualified that you were not referring to God creating them that way,
the other possibility is the only conclusion regarding your meaning.
The other conclusion is that by trying to explain away what you said
by bringing in the varied definitions of "inbred", you out and out
were lying about what you really meant.
Frankly, I'm not surprised you lied - those with limited intelligence
and a blind faith in anything they are taught by those they see as
being part of Christian hierarchy are usually liars (as well as being
stupid). Lying becomes a way to try and hide their stupidity - IOW
it's an act of desperation.
Not very glorifying to God, Teddy.
....Matt....
<hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 1, 8:55�pm, " ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <jesus-is-l...@lycos.com>
>wrote:
>> In My Fathers House hsot...@hotmail.com wrote in
>> b6098e2c-7229-419c-b904-f2f6c9395...@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com
>>
>> > On Nov 1, 8:18 pm, Ted L <spamtaddl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > [...]
>> >>> �Now, it's a pretty stupid god
>> >>> who supposedly detests homosexuality while creating about 10% of
>> >>> the human race that way!
>>
>> >> Regardless of their inbred desires . . .
>>
>> > Do you have evidence that homosexuality is caused by inbreeding or did
>> > you just spread false information in order to slur?
>>
>> Is God's Word not enough evidence for you in a Christian newsgroup?
>
>That depends. Do you mean the actual, objective, voice of God or do
>you mean Late-Imperial-Rome's-Word-About-God which has been called
>"the Word of God" despite the fact that hundreds or perhaps thousands
>of men wrote and edited it? If God were to actually speak on this
>matter it would be settled.
>
>Now with that said can you even show a place in the Bible that claims
>homosexuality is caused by inbreeding?
>
>
>
>> If
>> you need medical "evidence", you should go to a medicine group.
>
>Poor Vendetta can't kick people out of her newsgroup. What kind of a
>bully are you if you can't send people away?
>
>> Ted is
>> right about his claims from a Christian point of view.
>
>What the heck? Does the meaning of "inbred" change from a Christian
>point of view? And just why would God turn an innocent child into a
>sinful abomination due to his or her parents' sin? That is a mean
>thing for you to imply about God.
I don't believe God would ever punish a Child in this way. So Ted is
saying God intentionally creates Homosexuals?
Then Ted, Vera and Randy think it is Genetic???
>
>> If you hate the
>> Christian point of view, you are free to listen to people with other
>> point of views.
>
>Wow, you would have us believe that one point of view represents
>nearly a billion people. That is silly. Of course there are
>Christians with a wide range of views on this topic.
>
>
>> Just go to your favorite group -
>
>I already did.
>
>
>> . . . or wherever you came
>> from - I suppose it was a group for homosexuals, right?
>
>Is that what you think of Alt Christnet Christianlife?
>
>
>> >> . . . �God still calls it an
>> >> abomination.
>>
>> > Aside from a heavily edited book do you have any evidence for that?
>>
>> It is not our fault that you do not accept God's Word as your standard.
>
>I find it strange that you keep changing the subject. Where did you
>establish that the Bible is 100% from God? Oh, you just assume it,
>don't you?
>
>
>
>> > Some book told you.
>>
>> Not some book - God's Word.
>
>Proof?
>
>
>> But there is obviously no difference for
>> you.
>
>I find some parts of the Bible to be very edifying, uplifting and even
>transcending human nature to the point where I'm not sure we didn't
>get divine help. However clearly other parts are filled with
>contradiction which cannot be resolved. A perfect example is that we
>are commanded to love everyone, we are commanded to detest homosexuals
>and detest is the opposite of love. => <=
>
>Either we were created by someone who plays horrible games on us or at
>least part of it is wrong.
>
>
>> >> And God didn't create them that way, that's our
>> >> corrupted depraved state to which he gives us over for the sins of
>> >> rejecting Him (Romans 1:26).
>>
>> > Circular reasoning is a fallacy.
>>
>> So better stop it.
>
>Where did I use circular reasoning? Do tell. Otherwise your claim
>fails for lack of evidence.
>
>
>> > �LOL- some book told you. �The book
>> > must be right because it told you it was.
>>
>> Nah, God's Word told him - and God has told me the same, go figure.
>
>You had a subjective, emotional reaction after reading a certain
>book. And you are certain that this is right and true and the
>subjective, emotional reactions that Muslims, Mormons, Catholics and
>Jehovah Witnesses have after reading certain different books are
>misguided even though they are just as certain that God told them.
>If you had been raised in a different culture you would probably
>follow a different religion just as strongly at you follow your
>religion today. Since they all seem to have the same reaction how do
>we know which book is the one and only "Word of God"?
>
>You have fallen into the quicksand of circular reasoning.
>
>> >> Having normal desires doesn't justify
>> >> sins of lust, fornications, adultry, etc.
>>
>> > Adultery is not like the others for the others are not a breaking of a
>> > contract. �Apples to oranges. �For your claim regarding the others -
>> > got any proof? �How about any evidence aside from a book told you so?
>>
>> David Stern, a Jewish translator of God's Word, translated "fornication"
>> in Revelation 22 as "homosexuality" into German. Go figure.
>
>That's great and all but do you have any evidence aside from the Book?
>
>
>> >> Neither does the vile
>> >> affections of sodomy get a pass.
>>
>> > You have a nice house of cards made out of human constructs.
>>
>> No, he has God's Word.
>
>According to humans. How do we know it's God's word? Cuz some guy
>told me so. How did he know? Cuz some guy told him so. No wait, he
>read it in the book. The book told him that he could trust it. And
>if he had read a different book then he would have to believe whatever
>it said instead - right?
>
>
>> We are not alone, but God is always behind us -
>> can you not see Him? That is bad for you. You simply have your stomach
>> for your judgements...
>
>
>So to sum up you have no proof except you have a book that tells you
>to hate people and the book tells you that it is the word of God so it
>must be right?
>
>God gave us a brain so that we would not be fooled by men who would
>use God's name for their own agenda. Use it! If the book makes God
>look evil or insane then side with God. You had better hope we were
>not created by an insane and/or evil deity or else we are all doomed
>anyway.
>
dolf
clearly see, being understood by the things that are made, even his
eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse." [Romans 1:20]
How readest thou and is it with understanding of the Godhead?
Is this Godhead HETEROS according to Roman mysticism or HOMOIOTIC
according to Jewish mysticism?
The "Angel of the presence, who went before the camp of Israel" which is
here described in the Book of Jubliees by association to an
understanding of the 10 Commandments and chronology is further related
to a circular reality as technology and the most sacred name of God
derived from 3 Biblical texts of [Exodus 14:19-21] which each contain 72
letters: "And the angel of the presence, who went before the camp of
Israel [Exodus 14:19], took the TABLETS OF THE DIVISION OF YEARS FROM
THE TIME OF CREATION OF THE LAW AND TESTIMONY ACCORDING TO THEIR WEEKS
(OF YEARS), ACCORDING TO THE JUBILEES, year by year throughout the full
number of Jubilees, from the DAY OF CREATION UNTIL THE DAY OF THE NEW
CREATION WHEN THE HEAVEN AND EARTH AND ALL OF THEIR CREATURES SHALL BE
RENEWED ACCORDING TO THE POWERS OF HEAVEN AND ACCORDING TO THE WHOLE
NATURE OF EARTH, until the sanctuary of the LORD is created in Jerusalem
upon Mount Zion.
And all of the lights will be renewed for healing and peace and blessing
for all of the elect of Israel and in order that it might be thus from
that day and unto all the days of the earth." [Book of Jubilees 1:29]
These 3 Biblical texts of [Exodus 14:19-21] describe the miraculous
parting of the Red Sea before the people of Israel as they fled the
bondage of Pharaoh's Egypt.
First, the 72 Names are a technology for asserting the power of the
human consciousness over physicality. That is, the power of mind over
matter, which Kabbalah has always understood and which science is just
now beginning to grasp. However, the Names themselves depend on your
individual consciousness, and on your commitment to what the kabbalists
call proactive behaviour.
What is proactive behaviour? First and foremost, it is a stepping back
from reactive impulses, for there is no way we can have consciousness of
God--to say nothing of God's consciousness--unless we step back. Without
this proactive behaviour, even this most powerful of all technologies
cannot possibly work for us. Whenever it seems that misfortune has
suddenly been thrust upon you, step back. This does not mean acceptance
of the circumstances--if someone slaps you in the face, you might indeed
hit them back--but it does mean a level of consciousness above mere
reactivity. The technology of 72 Names can and will work for you, but
not without proactive behaviour.
My second point is related to the problems caused by reactive impulses,
specifically difficulties related to ego. In the biblical text that is
the foundation of the 72 Names, ego is personified by the Pharaoh of
Egypt. As the ego-driven impulses in our own lives draw away from growth
and transformation, Pharaoh gives the Israelites their freedom, but then
changes his mind and sends his army after them and ultimately into the
waters of the Red Sea. Ego will always play this game, particularly if
we make an effort to be proactive. Once again, step back from this
impulse. Be aware that your normal state of being in the physical world
is reactive consciousness. We are always being called upon to play ego's
game. With the ego it is always a lose-lose situation. If we are
concerned with winning, that's ego. If we are concerned with losing,
that's ego too. Using the 72 Names helps us to move beyond the ego's game.
When you commit yourself to proactive behaviour and to the renunciation
of ego games, the technology of the 72 Names is truly within your grasp.
Very simply put, this is the power of mind over matter. This is the
ability to eliminate every kind of chaos, whether in the form of
intangible fears and negative emotions, or the all-too-tangible
challenges of cancer and other serious illnesses. Consciousness is the
power that underlies every action and event in the material world.
Whether it is the simple act of raising your arm or the spontaneous
healing of life-threatening disease the process begins in consciousness.
The 72 Names of God are the bridge between this power of consciousness
and its manifestation in the physical realm." [(c) 2003 Kabbalist Rav
Yehuda Berg, 'The 72 Names of God -- Technology for the Soul (tm)' p xiii]
A variation of the 22/7 {= 3.1428571...} equation as rational PI
computation and the 364 day cycle from the DATE(1996,3,20) + (5 * 364) +
182 days = Wednesday DATE(2001,9,12) gives the Equinox of Saturday
DATE(2001,9,23) as commencing the Sabbath year and the reprise
associated to the following schema as a transcendent negation of the
Gregorian cycle of 400 years as the basis for replacement theology,
which is as 146097 days evenly divisible by seven:
#0 MOD 22 = 22 [#TAU / #400] as 4000 BCE
#400 MOD 22 = 17 [#PE / #80]
#800 MOD 22 = 12 [#LAMED / #30]
#1200 MOD 22 = 7 [#ZAYIN / #7]
#1600 MOD 22 = 2 [#BETH / #2]
#2000 MOD 22 = 19 [#QOPH / #100]
#2400 MOD 22 = 14 [#NUN / #50]
#2800 MOD 22 = 9 [#TETH / #9]
#3200 MOD 22 = 4 [#DALETH / #4]
#3600 MOD 22 = 21 [#SHIN / #300]
#4000 MOD 22 = 16 [#'AYIN / #70] = #0 CE as HETEROS autonomic
transformative prototype and symbolic associator to series #15, #34,
#65, #111, #175, #260, #369 ... #2000 Y2K
#4400 MOD 22 = 11 [#KAF / #20] = #400 CE
#4800 MOD 22 = 6 [#VAV / #6] = #800 CE
#5200 MOD 22 = 1 [#ALEPH / #1] = #1200 CE
#5600 MOD 22 = 18 [#TSADE / #90] = #1600 CE
#6000 MOD 22 = 13 [#MEM / #40] = #2000 Y2K / Equinox of DATE(1996,3,20)
/ @ (21 March = 1 Nisan) + (5 * 364) + 182 days = Wednesday
DATE(2001,9,12) with Equinox of Saturday DATE(2001,9,23) commencing the
Sabbath year of 'oth cycle has #369 with Septet #41 centric on 13-17
September 2001 / @ 18 September = 1 Tishri 5762.
#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of
Universal Law}, which contains the law of that will:
7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated to
the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +
#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the
law:
x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +
#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos ('achariyth
as 122J3W1D) = Arch (re'shiyth as 3W1D) + c² [9(9²+1)/2]:
has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on {ie.
20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th solar
month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1 Tishri
5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September 2001 as] the 1st day of the [21st
priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes steadfast} on
the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th solar month."
[4Q321]] +
#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature = Formula
of Progression of individual phenomena: #1 = {0: 1} + #2 = {0: -1, 1: 1}
+ #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 = {0: 1, 1: 0, 2: 1}}
vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1,
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}
Telos ('achariyth as 122J3W1D or 6,000 topical years) = Arch (re'shiyth
as 3W1D) + c² [9(9²+1)/2]
#6400 MOD 22 = 8 [#CHET / #8]
#6800 MOD 22 = 3 [#GIMEL / #3]
#7200 MOD 22 = 20 [#RESH / #200]
#7600 MOD 22 = 15 [#SAMEK / #60]
#8000 MOD 22 = 10 [#YOD / #10]
#8400 MOD 22 = 5 [#HE / #5]
#8800 MOD 22 = 22 [#TAU / #400] as 8800 CE
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clearly see, being understood by the things that are made, even his
although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God, nor were they
thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts
were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed
the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible
man (image of male and female)--and birds and four-footed beasts and
creeping things." [Deuteronomy 4:15-19; Romans 1:20]
In My Fathers House
> > him. Why ask the question if you already know your version of the
> > answer? What's more, no one on earth has seen God, Vera. But I'm not
> > surprised that you would say something so stupid - after all...you
> > claim that praying to Mary is okay and that you talk to the dead.
>
> Sometimes words have more than one definition. For example, "inbred"
> can mean resulting from or involved in inbreeding", OR "naturally
> inherent; innate; native: her inbred grace." It depends on what is
> called the "context" in which it is used.
So when you mentioned the inbred desires of homosexuals you meant the
type of desires that all people have? Then you would agree that
"inherent" would have been a better word choice to convey what you
meant - correct?
In My Fathers House
[...]
> >> Ted is
> >> right about his claims from a Christian point of view.
>
> >What the heck? Does the meaning of "inbred" change from a Christian
> >point of view? And just why would God turn an innocent child into a
> >sinful abomination due to his or her parents' sin? That is a mean
> >thing for you to imply about God.
>
> I don't believe God would ever punish a Child in this way. So Ted is
> saying God intentionally creates Homosexuals?
I'm not sure. He has clarified above (post 73 for now). It would
seem he acknowledges that orientation is inherent.
> Then Ted, Vera and Randy think it is Genetic???
I can't tell. There is a lot more to someone's hard wiring that
genetics alone. I find it unlikely that homosexuality would be
genetic because it would have been eliminated by now. Biochemistry is
very complicated as is child psychiatry and there could be a number of
things that contribute. AFAIK right now we just don't know what
determines orientation and with the issue being so politically charged
it might be a while before we get good answers.
....Matt....
Read a article that a teacher was suspended for letting HS students
read this article.
Most the kids support the teacher they even made a My space page to
him.
Matt
Barry OGrady
>On Nov 1, 7:39�am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>
>> Anti-homosexuality is written in the Bible.
>
>No it's not.
Yes it is.
Barry
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Barry OGrady
>On Nov 1, 3:28�pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>
>> REad LEviticus thoroughly!
>
>Been there, done that, done it several times more - it still doesn't
>say what you apparently think it does.
It doesn't say what you want it to say.
Ted L
> On Nov 1, 9:14 pm, Randy ® <pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 11/01/09, at 11:03:53PM,
> > In My Fathers House <hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 1, 7:09 pm, Randy ®<pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > [...]
> > >> > Correct. She's a shameless liar and has been promoting the
> > >> > false, damnable gospel of unrepentant homosexual salvation in here.
> > > It's so false and so damnable that when someone asks you ~how~ one can
> > > repent of being what they are you have no useful answer so you fall
> > > back into your standard insulting spam.
>
> > Liar. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God
> > (Romans 10:17). Oh wait...that's right. You spend all day
> > trying to undermine what God said, so you're undermining the
> > basis for homosexuals to have faith and repents. Go start your
> > own cult and leave christianity alone, heretic.
>
> So when I point out that you must fall back into your standard
> insulting spam you respond with your standard "Liar. Faith
> comes . . . undermine what God said . . . heretic" spam.
>
> You must have used these lines at least a dozen times already. I note
><SNIP>
He's right you know. Faith does in fact cometh by hearing, and
hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17. God also reminds us at v21
that "All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient
and gainsaying people." The other hand is holding back His wrath;
soon both hands are going to drop.
Now Is the Time to Be Saved:<http://www.plymouthbrethren.org/article/
1368>
Ted L
> Do what most Christians do and discount the bad parts as being "the
> Old Covenant" and no longer relevant.
Good idea! Reject the bad parts and keep the good 'ol King James
Bible.
Now sing the refrain from Victory in Jesus:
"O Victory In Jesus,
My Saviour For-ever,
He Sought Me and Bought Me With His Redeeming Blood,
He Loved Me Er I Knew Him,
Now All My Love Is Due Him,
He Plunged Me To Victory
Beneath The Cleansing Flood!"
"This is the LORD's doing; it is marvellous in our eyes." (Psalm
118:23)
::: Jesus is LORD :::
This is really an interesting testimony for you and your girl-friend:
Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2X8T0cyIdA
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBc4fnJ9Huk&feature=related
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(<<Kelly>>) <Kelly wrote in
2ec97404-6745-4abe...@x6g2000prc.googlegroups.com
> On Nov 2, 10:27 am, Ted L <spamtaddl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sometimes words have more than one definition. For example, "inbred"
>> can mean resulting from or involved in inbreeding", OR "naturally
>> inherent; innate; native: her inbred grace." It depends on what is
>> called the "context" in which it is used.
>
> Nice try
[trash snipped - better listen to the testimony above]
In My Fathers House
> > > > repent of being what they are you have no useful answer so you fall
> > > > back into your standard insulting spam.
>
> > > Liar. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God
> > > (Romans 10:17). Oh wait...that's right. You spend all day
> > > trying to undermine what God said, so you're undermining the
> > > basis for homosexuals to have faith and repents. Go start your
> > > own cult and leave christianity alone, heretic.
>
> > So when I point out that you must fall back into your standard
> > insulting spam you respond with your standard "Liar. Faith
> > comes . . . undermine what God said . . . heretic" spam.
>
> > You must have used these lines at least a dozen times already. I note
> ><SNIP>
>
> He's right you know. Faith does in fact cometh by hearing, and
> hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17.
And if he said Humpty Dumpty had a great fall he would be right again
because you could cite a nursery rhyme?
The content of Rom. 10:17 was not disputed.
> God also reminds us at v21
> that "All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient
> and gainsaying people." The other hand is holding back His wrath;
> soon both hands are going to drop.
God is angry at us due to what He did? I would prefer to think that
God is mature and well adjusted. It would be very sad if God is
inferior to His creation in this respect - even beings He created who
do not believe in Him. I would think that our ability to get control
of our emotions indicates that God is better at it than we are.
dolf
the wall after being foisted on his own petard--he claims that
homosexuality is an abuse and can't be sustained from the bible.
We have not only proved him wrong, but denied his foolish mind ever
obtaining Grace under the Everlasting Covenant--by cursing his soul for
the continuing public abuse.
Let his soul be troubled...
How readest thou and is it with understanding of the Godhead?
Is this Godhead HETEROS according to Roman mysticism or HOMOIOTIC
according to Jewish mysticism?
One who rebukes his fellow should not (at the start) speak with him so
harshly that he shames him, as it is stated, '[You shall surely rebuke
your fellow] and you shall not bear upon him a sin' (Leviticus 19:17).
So [too] did the Sages say, 'I might think you must rebuke him [while]
his face is turning colors, [the verse] comes to teach us, 'and you
shall not bear upon him a sin' (Talmud Erchin 16b). From here [we see]
that it is forbidden to shame a Jew, all the more so in public.
"Even though one who shames his fellow does not receive lashes, it is a
terrible sin. So did the Sages say, 'One who shames (lit., 'makes
white') the face of his fellow... has no share in the World to Come'
(Pirkei Avos 3:15). Therefore, one must be careful in this matter --
that he not embarrass his fellow publicly, whether a small or great
[person]. And he should not call him a name which shames him, nor should
he speak before him about a matter which embarrasses him.
"When does all of this apply? In matters between a person and his
fellow. But in matters of heaven if he did not repent [after you rebuked
him] privately, we shame him publicly, we publicize his sin, we execrate
him to his face, and we disgrace and curse him until he returns to the
better -- as did all the Prophets to Israel." [(c) 2009 By Rabbi Dovid
Rosenfeld, Crying Out, Project Genesis 2009.8.10]
A variation of the 22/7 {= 3.1428571...} equation as rational PI
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/images/toth9.gif
Telos ('achariyth as 122J3W1D or 6,000 topical years) = Arch (re'shiyth
as 3W1D) + c² [9(9²+1)/2]
"For since the creation of the world his invisible attributes are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his
eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because,
although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God, nor were they
thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts
were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the
glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man
(image of male and female)--and birds and four-footed beasts and
creeping things." [Deuteronomy 4:15-19; Romans 1:20]
#6400 MOD 22 = 8 [#CHET / #8]
#6800 MOD 22 = 3 [#GIMEL / #3]
#7200 MOD 22 = 20 [#RESH / #200]
#7600 MOD 22 = 15 [#SAMEK / #60]
#8000 MOD 22 = 10 [#YOD / #10]
#8400 MOD 22 = 5 [#HE / #5]
#8800 MOD 22 = 22 [#TAU / #400] as 8800 CE
The "Angel of the presence, who went before the camp of Israel" which is
here described in the Book of Jubliees by association to an
understanding of the 10 Commandments and chronology is further related
to a circular reality as technology and the most sacred names of God
Randy ® wrote:
> On Sun, 11/01/09, at 11:33:46PM,
> In My Fathers House <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
In My Fathers House
[...]
> >I can't tell. There is a lot more to someone's hard wiring that
> >genetics alone. I find it unlikely that homosexuality would be
> >genetic because it would have been eliminated by now. Biochemistry is
> >very complicated as is child psychiatry and there could be a number of
> >things that contribute. AFAIK right now we just don't know what
> >determines orientation and with the issue being so politically charged
> >it might be a while before we get good answers.
>
> Read a article that a teacher was suspended for letting HS students
> read this article.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ykxddxl
>
> Most the kids support the teacher they even made a My space page to
> him.
It's an interesting article. I haven't studied it enough to form an
opinion but obviously there is something we are missing on the
topic.
God bless,
House
CB
<rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 1, 8:44�ｿｽpm, In My Fathers House <hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 1, 8:18�ｿｽpm, Ted L <spamtaddl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> > > �ｿｽNow, it's a pretty stupid god
>> > > who supposedly detests homosexuality while creating about 10% of the human
>> > > race that way!
>>
>> > Regardless of their inbred desires . . .
>>
>> Do you have evidence that homosexuality is caused by inbreeding or did
>> you just spread false information in order to slur?
>>
>> > . . . �ｿｽGod still calls it an
>> > abomination.
>>
>> Aside from a heavily edited book do you have any evidence for that?
>>
>> Some book told you.
>>
>> > �ｿｽAnd God didn't create them that way, that's our
>> > corrupted depraved state to which he gives us over for the sins of
>> > rejecting Him (Romans 1:26).
>>
>> Circular reasoning is a fallacy. �ｿｽLOL- some book told you. �ｿｽThe book
>> must be right because it told you it was.
>>
>> > Having normal desires doesn't justify
>> > sins of lust, fornications, adultry, etc.
>>
>> Adultery is not like the others for the others are not a breaking of a
>> contract. �ｿｽApples to oranges. �ｿｽFor your claim regarding the others -
>> got any proof? �ｿｽHow about any evidence aside from a book told you so?
>>
>> > �ｿｽNeither does the vile
>> > affections of sodomy get a pass.
>>
>> You have a nice house of cards made out of human constructs.
>
>Honestly, I think Ted's elevator doesn't go quite to the top
You should be one to talk. His elevator goes a lot higher than yours.
>not a
>lot of good working brain-matter inside his noggin' (if you know what
>I mean). There's a reason why he always has to use other people's
>thoughts about this and that when it comes to Scripture, ya know?
CB
<rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 1, 10:00�pm, " ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <jesus-is-l...@lycos.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>> > Randy � pulpitf...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > The question is, why do you have a complaint against God being
>> > holy and righteous? �Why don't you go start your own cult, where
>> > you worship an unholy god who embraces abomination and sin, and
>> > the blood atonement of Christ isn't necessary, because nothing is
>> > wrong, instead of trying to pervert, pollute, and corrupt
>> > Christianity day and night?
>
>
>> That is a great idea. I would not mind if he did that.
>
>A "great idea"? You wouldn't mind if someone walked away from the
>Lord and started a cult where they could influence others away from
>the Lord Jesus Christ?
>
>You're no Christian, Vera - you just pretend to be one so you can work
>for your father, Satan.
When did you get promoted to judge?
Or are you just playing God?