Never knew what happened to it...but I know why. :-).
Michael Christ
anymore because they walk in the Spirit with the Lord.
I remember when the Lord began my chastening, He took my Bible away from me,
twice in fact.
I had my KJV, the version He gave me as the best there was, and for an
unexplained reason at the time, it just vanished.
About 3 months later I was mucking around in the garage and lo and behold it
turned up on top of a clothes cabinet.
Anyway, it went missing again almost straight away, and to this day I never
knew what happened to it.
You see...
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
...but there comes a time when the 'schoolmaster'/the schooling is complete
and you begin a life in the light walking in the Spirit with the Lord.
You leave the nest in effect, and live in faith on the wind...(John 3:8)
You see, all that study leads to something...
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all
good works.
...notice the word 'of', its all about Him.
The truth is crisp, the truth is Him.
Michael Christ
Randy ®
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Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
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Those who are called need the Bible, but those who are chosen
don't need
it anymore because they walk in the Spirit with the Lord.
Self-evident proof this pompous idiot stands in opposition to the
truth. Not one verse of Scripture supports this delusional
notion. Paul instructed Timothy to study and rightly divide the
word of truth. Acts shows the Bereans were more noble because
they searched the Scriptures daily to verify the things they were
being told were the truth. Jesus Himself routinely quoted and
referenced Scripture, and read it publicly.
Trying to draw people away from the word of God, and the very
means by which God gives men faith, is not some pious act of
spirituality, but a self-evident demonstration of opposition
towards God. It seems obvious Satan has drawn Michael away from
the truth of God's word before he knew what it said, which helps
explain the idiotic, Scripture contradicting claims he keeps making.
Why tools like Michael try to draw men away from the Bible:
1) Because they hate having their evil exposed
John 3:20 NIV
(20) Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come
into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
2) Because they are "natural" men, not spiritual.
1 Corinthians 2:14 NASB
(14) But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit
of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand
them, because they are spiritually appraised.
3) Because they are "hostile toward God"
Romans 8:5-8 NASB
(5) For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on
the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the
Spirit, the things of the Spirit.
(6) For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on
the Spirit is life and peace,
(7) because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for
it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even
able to do so,
(8) and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
4) Because they are blinded by Satan
2 Corinthians 4:3-4 NIV
(3) And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who
are perishing.
(4) The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so
that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of
Christ, who is the image of God.
5) Because they are under Satan's control
Romans 10:17 KJ2000
(17) So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Genesis 3:1 NIV
(1) Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals
the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say,
'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"
1 John 5:19 NIV
(19) We know that we are children of God, and that the whole
world is under the control of the evil one.
Satan knows that faith in God comes through hearing God's word.
From the beginning, he has been attacking God's word. The first
step in leading men astray from God, and into a path of eternal
ruin, is to promote doubt about what God has said. "Did God
really say...?", is the lie by which Satan has been opposing God,
and leading men to hell since the beginning. It is to be
expected that Satan will constantly attack, try to undermine, and
promote doubt about what God has said, and natural, unregenerate
men lie under his power, doing his will (1 John 5:19).
--
Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him
from the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and
gives you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone,
not your merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess.
1:8-9)? This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the
glory (Eph. 2:8-9).
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r m
I think you will find that the "of", here, [tou theou] denotes
possessive case, not a preposition (as in from or about). Another way
to express it is "that God's man may be perfect ...".
Cheers.
I
You survived as a Christian without a bible. This is good news. Some are
so addicted to it that they cannot function without one.
Thommadura
And you can survive even better without being a christian as well!
Michael Christ
anymore because they walk in the Spirit with the Lord.
I remember when the Lord began my chastening, He took my Bible away from me,
Michael Christ
"r m" <roy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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RM wrote:
>I think you will find that the "of", here, [tou theou] denotes
>possessive case, not a preposition (as in from or about). Another way
>to express it is "that God's man may be perfect ...".
Cheers.
Are you saying that from a perfect position or an imperfect one?
And the words 'I think', are they sufficient before the Lord to be speaking
into the precious welfare of a person's life and future? Do you know what I
mean?
In relation to the verse, I know that God is not a half-doer, RM.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
"I" <me@home000000000000591> wrote in message
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I wrote:
> You survived as a Christian without a bible. This is good news. Some are
> so addicted to it that they cannot function without one.
Many use the bible as a means and not the glorious end that it is. It is a
facilitation to something much greater; the entrance to the glory and
majesty and a personal presence of God.
Many will not enter the presence of the Lord for fear that their sins will
find them out, and they will. It is where the trusting in Him really
happens, where the rubber meets the road so to speak.
Oh but it is so much easier to stay in theology, and talk and talk and talk
about things, pretending to be something you are not. Hoping against hope
you are right and knowing deep down that you are not. That is why I feel
sorry for Randy.
Michael Christ
r m
> "r m" <roym...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I can't claim to be definitive but work from what I understand
(imperfect that would be). So, I tend to have these little disclaimer/
preface thingys like 'I wonder', 'I guess', 'I suppose' etc.
The problem with "of" in the English language is that it could be a
preposition or indicate possessive case. The passage in question had
the construction tou theou where the -ou suffix for both the noun and
the article indicates possessive case (also known as genitive).
The passage did not have the preposition for 'about' (e.g. peri), nor
the preposition 'from' (e.g.ek or ex) in the text.
>
> In relation to the verse, I know that God is not a half-doer, RM.
Aye :-) .
>
> Michael Christ
>
> Michael Christ
Mark Earnest
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The Scriptures are the Christian heart, soul and spirit.
So when you discredit the Scriptures, you take away your own credibility.
Michael Christ
Sorry Mark, I cannot address your dubious claims because it will be
construed that I want you to worship me.
Michael Christ
Randy ®
Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
> Those who are called need the Bible, but those who are chosen don't need it
> anymore because they walk in the Spirit with the Lord.
Randy ®
Mark Earnest <gmea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The Scriptures are the Christian heart, soul and spirit.
> So when you discredit the Scriptures, you take away your own credibility.
Correct!
gabriel
<Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
: Those who are called need the Bible, but those who are chosen don't need it
: anymore because they walk in the Spirit with the Lord.
We are changed into the glory of God precisely by reading His
Word, not by putting the Word of God in the trash can.
2 Corinthians 3:13-18 KJV
13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the
children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that
which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth
the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament;
which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon
their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it (their heart) shall turn to the Lord,
the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord
is, there is liberty.
18 But we all, with open face (no longer a vail) beholding as in
a glass (the Bible) the glory of the Lord, are changed into the
same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the
Lord.
Thommadura
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:40:03 GMT, "Michael Christ"
> <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
>
> : Those who are called need the Bible,
No one NEEDS the bible -
They ALL make it up as they go along
That is what con men DO.
I
>> The Scriptures are the Christian heart, soul and spirit.
>> So when you discredit the Scriptures, you take away your own credibility.
>
> Correct!
UTTER NONSENSE!!!!
The CHRISTian "heart, soul and spirit" is the CHRIST anointed BY God of whom
CHRISTianity is named.
One can have CHRISTianity without a man made bible.
Abraham knew God without a bible.
--
The most pronounced characteristics [of fundamentalists] are the following:
(a) a very strong emphasis on the inerrancy of the Bible, the absence from
it of any sort of error;
(b) a strong hostility to modern theology and to the methods, results and
implications of modern critical study of the Bible;
(c) an assurance that those who do not share their religious viewpoint are
not really 'true Christians' at all.
- James Barr "Fundamentalism" (SCM Press:1977) p.1
I
> 1) Because they hate having their evil exposed
You hate that your lie of an inerrant bible is definitively exposed.
> 2) Because they are "natural" men, not spiritual.
God gave you a mind to use as demonstrated in Jesus' Greatest Commandment to
love God with "ALL YOUR MIND" (Matthew
22:37-40) You fail to use your mind at all.
> 3) Because they are "hostile toward God"
...
> 4) Because they are blinded by Satan
...
> 5) Because they are under Satan's control
Uneducated fundamentalists such as Randy Young erroneously believe that any
intelligent Christian who opposes their man-made dogma is either "hostile to
God", "not a true Christian" or under the power of Satan.
The bible that Randy Young luvs more than God says to resist the
devil and he will flee from you. (James 4:7). Why ISN'T that working for
Randy Young ??????
> "Did God really say...?"
ALL the major CULTS of our time did NOT harm others by asking "Did God
really say...?" but BY DEMANDING "THUS SAYETH THE LORD"!!!!!
THINK (something fundamentalists rarely do!) ............
- Jim Jones and the People's Temple "God sayeth to drink the red cordial!"
- David Koresh and the Branch Davidians "God sayeth to fight the law
enforcement officers and burn down the building!"
- TV preacher scandals "God sayeth to give more money so I can spend it on
prostitutes!"
Michael Christ
If you had gone to Diana and apologised to her for the wrong you have done
her, as she did you, then you would have shown you were of a different
spirit.
You have lots of theology, but none of the Christ likeness.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
"gabriel" <gabriel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:40:03 GMT, "Michael Christ"
> <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
>
> : Those who are called need the Bible, but those who are chosen don't need
> it
> : anymore because they walk in the Spirit with the Lord.
In regard to your subject heading: a person is changed into the glory of God
by the Lord Jesus.
Not 'we' change by what 'I' read. See? We....I....we....I. Whose at the
centre?
Gabriel wrote:
>We are changed into the glory of God precisely by reading His
> Word, not by putting the Word of God in the trash can.
Well what happened to you?
You can't hide your nature, and neither can Randy.
You both search the scriptures to try and justify what you are.
Michael Christ
Randy ®
Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
You argue against your own false dichotomies, not what I say or
do, or what the Bible actually teaches. It does not follow that
someone who agrees with what the Bible says, or who mentions that
to you when you contradict it and lead men down a path that makes
God out to be a liar, is therefor, and by that means, trying to
make himself righteous.
Since you apparently deny you still have a sin nature or commit
any sins, you are the one who is failing to walk in the light, or
change your mind and agree with what God said, thus making God
out to be a liar:
1 John 1:8-10 NASB
(8) If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves
and the truth is not in us.
(9) If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to
forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
(10) If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and
His word is not in us.
Michael Christ
Check out what the Lord has shown me about 1 John 1 in my next upcoming
post.
:-).
All you do is condemn yourself, Randy, you can't touch me.
If you had faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and not your 'finished work alone'
theology, you would be where I am.
Michael Christ
Luke Nichols
"I" <me@home000000000000592> wrote in message
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> - TV preacher scandals "God sayeth to give more money so I can spend it on
> prostitutes!"
Boy, don't they!
http://www.ashesaid.com
My site, free of charge.
Ike E 11/23/9
"I" <me@home000000000000592> wrote in message
> "Randy � Young" <pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> The Scriptures are the Christian heart, soul and spirit.
>>> So when you discredit the Scriptures, you take away your own
>>> credibility.
>>
>> Correct!
>
>
> UTTER NONSENSE!!!!
Nope.
Jesus relied on the Word.
The Word is the measure against which one has to test doctrines.
Once one disregards the Word (all errors aside), they can say pretty much
anything they want to and call it "Christianity," which, ironically, is
EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO PROMOTE YOUR PRIVATE AGENDA.
> The CHRISTian "heart, soul and spirit" is the CHRIST anointed BY God of
> whom CHRISTianity is named.
>
> One can have CHRISTianity without a man made bible.
Nope.
Lu 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, [Jesus] expounded unto
them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Jesus had to use scripture to substantiate Himself, otherwise He could have
said anything and no one would have had a yardstick with which to test His
sayings, which is why He CREATED scripture in the first place. (It's also
why you and the fools of the Jesus Seminar have to get rid of it--it is
standing between you and your abominable agenda.)
> Abraham knew God without a bible.
Abraham had DIRECT CONTACT with God, which GAVE us portions of the Bible,
moron.
YOU DON'T.
Ike
gabriel
<Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
: Those who are called need the Bible, but those who are chosen don't need it
: anymore because they walk in the Spirit with the Lord.
:
: I remember when the Lord began my chastening, He took my Bible away from me,
: twice in fact.
:
: I had my KJV, the version He gave me as the best there was, and for an
: unexplained reason at the time, it just vanished.
:
: About 3 months later I was mucking around in the garage and lo and behold it
: turned up on top of a clothes cabinet.
:
: Anyway, it went missing again almost straight away, and to this day I never
: knew what happened to it.
:
Luke 4:4 KJV
4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall
not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Matthew 4:4 KJV
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by
bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth
of God.
Ted L
> Those who are called need the Bible, but those who are chosen don't need it
> anymore because they walk in the Spirit with the Lord.
> ...but there comes a time when the 'schoolmaster'/the schooling is complete
> and you begin a life in the light walking in the Spirit with the Lord.
> Michael Christ
Not so much. Prior to the completed work of the Bible, prohecy was
given by way of Spiritual gifting. When that which is perfect has
come, (the meaning of 'perfect', by the way, is more at 'complete' in
KJV language rather than 'flawless' as we use it today, although it is
that too) then that which is in part ("although we prophecy in part",
which they did do prior to completion of the Bible) shall be done
away. See/study/prayerfully meditate on 1Cor 13:8-10. Go to.
Because he lives, I live.
Thurisaz, warrior of Thor
cheap copies of tales and tenets of pretty much all other religions of that
time and place. Because there is nothing original or meaningful in it, and
no truths other than trivialities that every person who didn't grow up in a
cave already knows.
--
Thurisaz, warrior of Thor, natural enemy of morontheism
The judgment of morontheism: http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
Michael Christ
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:40:03 GMT, "Michael Christ"
> <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
>
> : Those who are called need the Bible, but those who are chosen don't need
> it
> : anymore because they walk in the Spirit with the Lord.
> :
> : I remember when the Lord began my chastening, He took my Bible away from
> me,
> : twice in fact.
> :
> : I had my KJV, the version He gave me as the best there was, and for an
> : unexplained reason at the time, it just vanished.
> :
> : About 3 months later I was mucking around in the garage and lo and
> behold it
> : turned up on top of a clothes cabinet.
> :
> : Anyway, it went missing again almost straight away, and to this day I
> never
> : knew what happened to it.
> :
Gabriel wrote:
> Luke 4:4 KJV
> 4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall
> not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
>
> Matthew 4:4 KJV
> 4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by
> bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth
> of God.
Amen. Jesus is Lord!!
What you mean for my condemnation is my rejoicing. It works like that all
the time actually. You and Randy only confirm all the more what the Lord
tells me is the truth.
Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word the proceedeth out of
the mouth of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Oh my goodness that feels good.
Thank you.
Something else is testimony, who would want your and Randy's spirit, your
supposed representation of Christ??
Not for all the money and the power in the world!!!
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
"Ted L" <spamta...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 24, 4:40 am, "Michael Christ" <JesusisL...@Father.com> wrote:
> Those who are called need the Bible, but those who are chosen don't need
> it
> anymore because they walk in the Spirit with the Lord.
...
> ...but there comes a time when the 'schoolmaster'/the schooling is
> complete
> and you begin a life in the light walking in the Spirit with the Lord.
...
> Michael Christ
Ted L wrote:
Not so much. Prior to the completed work of the Bible, prohecy was
given by way of Spiritual gifting. When that which is perfect has
come, (the meaning of 'perfect', by the way, is more at 'complete' in
KJV language rather than 'flawless' as we use it today, although it is
that too) then that which is in part ("although we prophecy in part",
which they did do prior to completion of the Bible) shall be done
away. See/study/prayerfully meditate on 1Cor 13:8-10. Go to.
Because he lives, I live.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
No Ted, that which is perfect is the Lord Jesus Christ, and when He comes
that which is in part (the written word) is done away.
It is all about Him, His presence and the life you live in Him in the
Spirit.
The earth is the Lord's and the fulness thereof. In other words, He is in
everything.
So simple, so clear...so crisp. The truth is crisp.
Jesus is Lord. If what you say and what you do does not centre on Him, it
is of man. He is the cornerstone.
Oh so crisp.
Michael Christ
bob young
Michael Christ wrote:
> Those who are called need the Bible, but those who are chosen don't need it
> anymore because they walk in the Spirit with the Lord.
Did 'HE' tell you that Mickey ?
>
>
> I remember when the Lord began my chastening, He took my Bible away from me,
> twice in fact.
Liar
>
>
> I had my KJV, the version He gave me as the best there was, and for an
> unexplained reason at the time, it just vanished.
>
> About 3 months later I was mucking around in the garage and lo and behold it
> turned up on top of a clothes cabinet.
>
> Anyway, it went missing again almost straight away, and to this day I never
> knew what happened to it.
Maybe 'HE' missed it and wanted ut back - gods are like that you know
>
>
> You see...
>
> 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for
> doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
>
> ...but there comes a time when the 'schoolmaster'/the schooling is complete
> and you begin a life in the light walking in the Spirit with the Lord.
>
Michael Christ
How lost is a man who hates tennis and couldn't think of anything worse than
playing tennis, but yet spends his time trying to get tennis players, who
love tennis, to hate tennis with him.
Or is such a man just a complete fool?
Michael Christ
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Randy ®
Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
> Attacking me will not make you righteous, Randy.
Didn't say it would. Meanwhile, feigning pompous spirituality,
while you deny you have any sin, won't make you righteous:
1 John 1:8-10 NASB
(8) If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves
and the truth is not in us.
(9) If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to
forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
(10) If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and
His word is not in us.
1) John says "we", and he's writing to believers, not people who
are unsaved.
2) "Have no sins" is in the present, not past tense, as is
"confess our sins.
3) If "we" (believers) presently claim or keep on claiming we
have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves, the truth is not in us,
and we make God out to be a liar.
> If you had gone to Diana and apologised to her for the wrong you have
> done her, as she did you, then you would have shown you were of a
> different spirit.
What "wrong"? Post it with article reference.
> You have lots of theology, but none of the Christ likeness.
Christ is like the Bible says he is, not like you do. If the
truth were in you, you wouldn't claim to be without sin.
I
> All you do is condemn yourself, Randy
That's our Randy Young!
Michael Christ
>> If you had gone to Diana and apologised to her for the wrong you have
>> done her, as she did you, then you would have shown you were of a
>> different spirit.
Randy wrote:
> What "wrong"? Post it with article reference.
Its about the nature of your spirit...wake up, the Lord says you have not
walked in His name with her.
Are you saying you are without sin?
Are you saying you have loved her as thyself?
Are you that foolish?
You didn't seek to do what was right with Diana because your spirit is hard
and calloused, and the clay is hard.
You have as much chance of defeating me as defeating the Lord. All we are
trying to do is to soften you up so that you can choose a different path.
But I am not going to be your slave forever; seek the Lord while He may be
found. If you continue to harden your heart, then your fate will be as
Pharaoh's.
As we said to you 2 weeks ago, the problem with you Randy is that you have
lost all objectivity because you have become obsessed with condemnation.
Who are you, a sinner, to condemn anybody?
Michael Christ
Randy ®
Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
You are the one who does not admit to being a sinner, not me. So
go take your own advice, hypocrite. The truth is not in you (1
John 1:8-10), you are self-deceived, and you make God out to be a
liar.
On Sat, 11/21/09, at 9:32:54PM,
In Group: alt.christnet.christianlife
Article: <Gh2Om.56623$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
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> "1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his
> seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of
> God."
Gabriel wrote:
> So are you claiming you have not sinned since being saved?
Michael Christ wrote:
> That is exactly what the verse is saying! It cannot be clearer!
> But you in your sin and looking through a glass darkly decides
that the
> verse says something else.Gabriel wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
> So are you claiming you have not sinned even once since being
> saved?
How on earth are you supposed to understand that answer being
blind??!!
If you say you are in Christ and sin, you are saying Jesus sins.
Since Jesus does not sin, you are not in Christ.
Just what part of this Bible verse do you not understand, Gabriel???
"1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his
seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of
God."
Please tell me. It is not going to do you any good trying to
judge me,
that is not your role.
A person that sins and says they are in Christ is declaring in
spiritual
places that Jesus is a sinner. How can anyone not understand that??
The problem with you and Randy, and God knows who else, is that
you lack
faith.
Michael Christ
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Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Randy ®
(8) If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the
forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
(10) If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a
liar and his word has no place in our lives.
So then, someone who claims to be without sin:
1) is self deceived
2) does not have the truth in him
3) makes God out to be a liar
Michael claiming he is without sin:
Michael Christ
>What "wrong"?
Michael Christ
Randy ®
::: Jesus is LORD :::
Michael Christ
>What "wrong"?
Randy wrote:
>1 John 1:8-10 NIV
>(8) If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the
>truth is not in us.
Good at pointing the finger at everyone else but yourself.
Michael Christ
bob young
Michael Christ wrote:
> What do you think Bob?
>
> How lost is a man who hates tennis and couldn't think of anything worse than
> playing tennis, but yet spends his time trying to get tennis players, who
> love tennis, to hate tennis with him.
>
> Or is such a man just a complete fool?
Anyone who plays with words that add up to nothing is surely a fool
Me
Re: If we say we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves...and you state
"What wrong?"
"Randy �" <pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Michael is the one who says he has no sin. Let him repent.
RANDY YOUNG FAILS QUALITIES REQUIRED TO BE A PASTOR
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1 Tim. 4:12
be an example to all the believers in the way you speak and behave, and in
your love, your faith and your purity.
Ephesians 4:25, 26, 29
25 So from now on, there must be no more lies. Speak the truth to one
another, since we are all parts of one another.
26 Even if you are angry, do not sin: never let the sun set on your
anger
27 or else you will give the devil a foothold.
28 Anyone who was a thief must stop stealing; instead he should exert
himself at some honest job with his own hands so that he may have something
to share with those in need.
29 No foul word should ever cross your lips; let your words be for the
improvement of others, as occasion offers, and do good to your listeners;
30 do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God who has marked you with his
seal, ready for the day when we shall be set free.
31 Any bitterness or bad temper or anger or shouting or abuse must be
far removed from you -- as must every kind of malice.
32 Be generous to one another, sympathetic, forgiving each other as
readily as God forgave you in Christ.
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After high school, my Grandma and some people from our church sent me to
Bible school. ...
After years of thinking I was going to be a pastor or some other kind of
full-time christian worker, it became evident that was not the path God had
for me. I finally came to the conclusion that God wants some Christian
servants to be entirely self-supporting, just as Paul often was. This was
discouraging at first, but later, it occurred to me the freedom one has to
serve God, when he does not depend on a bunch of people for his financial
support. ... There's little I enjoy more than coming into these groups to
guard the faith, for God's glory.
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Randy ®
Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
> Good at pointing the finger at everyone else but yourself.
Is this finger pointing you are doing here not more of your
self-evident hypocrisy? I admit I am a sinner, who still
struggles with sin. You, apparently do not:
1 John 1:8-10 NIV
(8) If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the
truth is not in us.
Michael Christ
> I admit I still have a sin nature, and still struggle with sin.
Go and judge yourself then.
Michael Christ
Randy ®
Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
> Randy wrote:
>> I admit I still have a sin nature, and still struggle with sin.
>
> Go and judge yourself then.
Someone who admits he has a sin nature, and when he sins to God,
has. Someone who denies he has, deceives himself, and makes God
out to be a liar:
Michael Christ
Their lives are hid in Him in faith and in the faith.
You have lost.
Michael Christ